NFT: Mets vs. Astros- THORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

is throwing better today. Threw a guy out (albeit on a pitchout) and had another throw that was right on but dropped by the infielder.

Interesting (and unfortunate) to hear about Thor Shecky. I guess it's like you said, Mets and Thor can just keep on working on it and hope to minimize the pain.

two more runners who were trying to steal. Up to 3 on the day now.

on the day now.

In comment 13406163 PhiPsi125 said:

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Is it a problem with throwing to first? He seemed to be fine with that from what I saw. An attention span thing? Whatever it is, I just hate seeing Thor give up a single and it automatically turns into a triple. But you are right, if it can't be helped then just focus on other stuff.

He's just slow, I don't see that changing.

Bias is showing. Lol. TDA was above average throwing out runner's in 2015 (before his shoulder issues in 2016)

DeGrom hit 100 mph on the gun this morning.

followed by a Conforto blast to start the "B Mets" off against Dickey and the Braves in the first.

What is up with him? What did the doctors put in that elbow?

In comment 13406264 CMicks3110 said:

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What is up with him? What did the doctors put in that elbow?

Credits the offseason throwing program with Warthen. Been hitting 97-ish since his first spring training game. This is after showing up and barely hitting 90 mph last spring. Crazy.

The more I think he has indeed improved. Not thrilled with the walks but....

Yes, TdA was about middle of the pack (average) in throwing out runners in 2015. However, TdA was awful in 2016, 2014 and 2013. Bottom of the barrel if he were to be measured against qualified catchers. Maybe 2015 was the outlier?

I'm sure that Noah being slow the plate is going to be a built-in excuse for TdA's throwing woes, but you cannot escape the stats. And the stats say that he's bad. I hope he can improve and get some more zip on his throws.

As for Thor, I wouldn't change his windup to make it quicker. But I would have him throw over to first a thousand times so these runners aren't so comfortable.

If TDA hits and keeps up his excellent pitch framing I'm going to be thrilled. As I outlined above the best catcher in baseball in throwing out runners saved his team a whopping 2 runs over 162 games. The worst gave up -2 run. You can keep the 2-4 runs. It's such a useless stat.

In comment 13406274 ZGiants98 said:

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If TDA hits and keeps up his excellent pitch framing I'm going to be thrilled. As I outlined above the best catcher in baseball in throwing out runners saved his team a whopping 2 runs over 162 games. The worst gave up -2 run. You can keep the 2-4 runs. It's such a useless stat.

I agree is probably not the biggest deal. I just fear that it takes on a life of its own (like last year) where people just run at-will on TdA. And especially during Thor starts (not that he will be catching a lot - and that has more to do with Thor). Probably an overreaction but it is what it is.

I obviously would rather him be better at it than not.

are in the lineup today against Dickey lol. Sucks this guy is going to be in our division this year.

"starting hitters" lol

If Conforto stays in Vegas for roughly 43ish games the Mets gain another year of control. Boras will sure to be bringing it up in season.

Is that people run at will against TDA and it gets in his head. Because once something gets in his head, it's over...

only around 40 pitches.

Marc Carig ✔@MarcCarig
Left oblique strain for Juan Lagares.

Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Juan Lagares, who just tripled and scored, is batting a cool .300 with two homers and that three-base hit in his last nine games. #Mets

Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Was interested to see if Rafael Montero would pound the strike zone even against big league hitters. He�s done that.

He's been hitting screaming line drives all spring.

First Nimmo. Now possibly Legares. Conforto desperately trying to keep his ML spot lol

In comment 13406314 Shecky said:

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He's been hitting screaming line drives all spring. First Nimmo. Now possibly Legares. Conforto desperately trying to keep his ML spot lol

Those damn oblique injuries seem to last at least a couple of weeks. Ugh.

Not a lot of Ks but pounding the strikezone and getting a ton of weak contact.

will make the team now thanks to Lagares injury

In comment 13406333 DanMetroMan said:

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will make the team now thanks to Lagares injury

Yeah, he has to unless Nimmo or Lagares magically make it back in time. No other option.

most likely will miss at least a month.

But I think Legares was more "precautionary" than an "oh shit". But then again, how often does day-to-day turn into a month for the Mets?

Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas.

What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

Harvey stays in extended or heads north with the team. Guess his next start will be telling. If he goes north Lugo goes to Vegas I presume.

In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said:

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Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

Can't announce it IMMEDIATELY after. That would make it look like MLB waited till after the Classic to announce it lol

In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said:

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Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

We can always drop Gilmartin from the 40 man if we don't want to immediately put Wright on the 60 day DL for roster flexibility purposes. Besides Sewald, is there anybody else that is not already on the 40 man who really must be kept? Even Ty Kelly or Phillip Evans duplicate what T.J. Rivera provides and Rivera is already on the 40 man

In comment 13406352 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse. We can always drop Gilmartin from the 40 man if we don't want to immediately put Wright on the 60 day DL for roster flexibility purposes. Besides Sewald, is there anybody else that is not already on the 40 man who really must be kept? Even Ty Kelly or Phillip Evans duplicate what T.J. Rivera provides and Rivera is already on the 40 man

I dont think Sandy wants to max out every possible 40 man spot. Sure, Goeddel and Gilmartin can be removed but there isn't a lot of room past them. Sure I think Sewald could be added but if it's close I think the tie obviously goes to the man with the 40 man spot and Montero is having a pretty good spring. I do think Ty Kelly is added. TJ Rivera and Flores look like the backup middle infielders until Wright comes back (Reynolds already sent to minor league camp). Lagares and Ty Kelly looked like the backup OF. If Lagares is down long term than Conforto replaces Lagares. Ty Kelly still makes the team.

In comment 13406350 Shecky said:

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In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse. Can't announce it IMMEDIATELY after. That would make it look like MLB waited till after the Classic to announce it lol

LOL. What a bunch of bullshit.

topped off at 87 this spring, he can be removed as well

Every single one of them. Reyes, Duda, Walker, Cabrera (yes he does have an option), Granderson, and Bruce.

There might be some major turnover next year. Guys like Nimmo, Conforto, Cecchini, Rosario, Smith, and I'd even say TJ Rivera need to be getting plenty of consistent at-bats in preparation of getting their numbers called in the not so distant future.

He's going to be out a while IMO.

Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad.

IMO. If Familia doesn't get suspended I'd actually think Smoker might once again have a hard time making the team due to options.

In comment 13406369 ZGiants98 said:

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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad.

Lol cmon. He said "as bad" aka not as bad as the previous injury.

Michael Mayer @themainemets
Rafael Montero has certainly been a pleasant surprise this spring:

18.1 IP, 14 H, 4 ER (1.96 ERA), 8 BB/21 K

In comment 13406381 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13406369 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad. Lol cmon. He said "as bad" aka not as bad as the previous injury.

He saying it doesnt feel as bad as a time he injured it that was already lower than the 30 games you predicted. Im not going to speculate on "how bad" or what the heck he talking about lol. We have no idea at this point.

I'd feel bad for the guy. He's waited a long time and pushed through a lot of obstacles to play in the majors. Plus I'd like to see him in action.

In comment 13406386 Torrag said:

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I'd feel bad for the guy. He's waited a long time and pushed through a lot of obstacles to play in the majors. Plus I'd like to see him in action.

The upside of Smoker is so much higher than a guy like Edgin but Edgin is pitching well now and is seemingly a decent backup LOOGY. Doubt the Mets discard him so he's holding the cards right now. The Familia suspension is holding everything up. Ive seen speculation he might not even get suspended at all or that its at least less than 30. We'll see! Smoker still has a shot though.

Smoker makes it.

miss 30 games. Nice try though. Oblique is generally a 3-6 week injury. It's March 25th, if he missed a month he'd miss about 20 games.

Anderson and now Ramirez. Wish the Mets would do this more often

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Indians, Jose Ramirez, pending physical, agree to 4-year $26 million extension. Deal includes club options for 2022 and 2023.

but there arent enough spots. Sewald has almost no shot now IMO.

No Familia Suspension...

Familia
Reed
Salas
Blevins
Robles
Edgin

One of Montero, Smoker, or Lugo for last spot

Famila suspension...

Reed
Salas
Blevins
Robles
Edgin

Two of Smoker, Lugo, Montero, possibly Sewald (since a 40 man spot is open for Familia)

Understood and agree. But the Indians need to strike proactively in an attempt to regulate team finances long term. IF the Mets continue the trend of increasing payroll and behaving like the money machine big market franchise they are it's not as big deal for us. IF.