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Haason Reddick...how high would the Giants have to move up?

chopperhatch : 3/24/2017 8:53 pm
This guy is everything Leonard Floyd was except stouter at the POA, stronger and more versatile. Unlike Floyd, Reddick has actually played on all three levels of D, not just flashed. Unlike Floyd, he doesnt get caught up in the wash and isnt just "in the neighborhood" of the tackle. He is actually initiating the play and making the tackle. Unlike Floyd, he isnt guided aside once the Tackle gets his feet, he can hook and suddenly take an inside approach to the quarterback.

Yes he played at Temple as opposed to an SEC school. But this guy is every bit the player people talked about when discussing Floyd (which I hated as the Giants pick) except with more work ethic and strength.

So if Floyd went top ten, where does this kid go? Most mocks Ive seen have him going 15-25, which puts us on the very edge. If the Giants love him, I think we would have to move up, significantly, to do so. Just a cursory look at other teams ahead of us, I see trading up to 15 behind the Eagles would be the necessary move if the Giants want him badly. Personally I think he is the last piece to going from being the great D we were last year to being a truly Offense wrecking, carnivorous defense you cant game plan against. I have not been as sold on a linebacker pick in the first round in years, probably ever. But we just committed big dollars to our DL. We also have a very good secondary with a burgeoning star at SS. We have been very frugal with our LBs...and I understand why. Reddick would not only instantly benefit from the likes of the secondary behind him, the two pass rushers that are going to command attention of multiple blockers in front of him, but he and Collins would make those dink and dunk, 3 step offenses like the Pats have fits.

I have never seen a player that woukd have the instantaneous impact that Reddick would. The unmentioned fact in this post, that he walked on to the team, also shows that he will work for his success. I know BBI has been fairly warm to his being our choice. But I think he may not even make it to 15, however, if he made it to 13, would you make the jump and what would you be willing to give up?
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RE: Eli Manning was jailed briefly after his arrest last weekend for...  
Milton : 3/25/2017 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13406528 Torrag said:
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There is still no concrete finding in the Robinson arrest. They swept it under the rug for the sake of the Alabama football program. That's the truth. Guns and drugs in one fell swoop.
What's the concrete finding you are looking for? He smokes weed? Big deal. He was in possession of a gun which happened to be stolen? Big deal. How is that any worse than being drunk and disorderly? Both were isolated incidents of poor judgment, but nothing at all egregious or indicative of a pattern of poor judgment.

I'm sure teams asked Robinson about the incident, just as I'm sure teams asked Eli about the incident. That's what they do in these interviews. But there is no reason to believe Robinson's answers weren't satisfactory. I'm not sure why you think it's such a big deal. Is there more to it that you know and I don't? What was it that you feel was swept under the rug for the sake of Alabama football?
RE: 'Jessie Armstead does not compare to Hasson Reddick athletically'...  
Milton : 3/25/2017 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13406531 Torrag said:
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What are you smoking? Jessie was one of the most athletic players in the NFL. 5 consecutive Pro Bowls and a 1st Team All Pro selection.
If you're going to put quotes around something, you should get it right. I never said "Jessie Armstead does not compare to Haason Reddick athletically".
Milton see jacob12's 5 pm post  
Torrag : 3/25/2017 7:18 pm : link
Which I quoted in my subject line. I was engaging his comment with that post.
'He was in possession of a gun which happened to be stolen?'  
Torrag : 3/25/2017 7:20 pm : link
You're not that naive. Are you? I've got some beachfront property in Nevada I'm thinking of putting on the market...
RE: Milton see jacob12's 5 pm post  
Milton : 3/25/2017 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13406574 Torrag said:
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Which I quoted in my subject line. I was engaging his comment with that post.
Okydoke, my bad.
Floyd was no slouch as a rookie  
santacruzom : 3/25/2017 7:32 pm : link
The post implies that Floyd has all these insurmountable deficiencies, but Reddick doing as well as Floyd did in his role his rookie year would be an admirable achievement.
RE: 'He was in possession of a gun which happened to be stolen?'  
Milton : 3/25/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13406575 Torrag said:
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You're not that naive. Are you? I've got some beachfront property in Nevada I'm thinking of putting on the market...
Not naive, but I sincerely doubt he was the one who stole the gun. More likely it was given to him by a friend or relative or he purchased it from a friend or relative. Obviously there was no paperwork involved, so he knew he was skirting regulations, but I still don't see it as a big deal.
"I can get you a brand new Cadillac with the pink slip for two grand" - ( New Window )
So was plaxico not registering his gun ok?  
Torrag : 3/25/2017 7:38 pm : link
Cause we all know how that ended. I expect the NY Giants as an organization are quite sensitive to any gun related crime. Once bitten twice shy...
Floyd  
KWALL2 : 3/25/2017 8:13 pm : link
Was excellent as a rookie. When he was healthy he was a player. Bears love him. And they should. He can do a lot of things to help any team win.

Reddick is a bit different. The post says he played on 3 levels unlike Floyd? Wrong. He played one level in college. However, he certainly has the ability to play in space and cover. He showed that at the Senior Bowl. Unlike Floyd, he doesn't have the size to play DL in NFL.

I like Reddick a lot for the Giants. He's explosive and can offer some pass rush from the LB spot. He can move and cover. Undersized and not a thumper. He can cover a lot of ground and play inside or outside for the Giants. You can put him over the center on passing downs and let him get after the QB. He's got a skill set like a Ryan Shazier. In today's NFL, he brings a lot of value to a team.

It's a loaded draft. I wouldn't trade up for hmm. But I'd like him on the Giants. A versatile LB with great speed and pass rush ability? We could use it.

Funny thing about this thread...  
Klaatu : 3/26/2017 7:31 am : link
And this is not meant to be a shot or anything like that, but I can't recall Torrag being this enthusiastic about any draft prospect.
I had a woody for Kuechly...  
Torrag : 3/26/2017 10:41 am : link
...but I knew we had no shot at him. In this case I'm holding onto a slim hope but certainly not holding my breath. Plus we all know the team hasn't drafted a 1st Round LB since Carl. As ridiculous as that seems.
Well, just remember this, Torrag:  
Klaatu : 3/26/2017 11:05 am : link
Obsessing over a potential draft pick is my job!
Linebacker is my second choice  
ReneNYG1 : 3/26/2017 11:19 am : link
Christian McCaffrey is a great weapon and unique guy that has awesome skills to inpact a game,if he is gone I do like Reddick alot he is worth the pick for sure,I grab a tackle on the second round in Moton or Sharpe but my truly sleeper pick which nobody has mention and would be my third choice in the TJ Watt he is an unbelievable linebacker and if both MacCaffrey and reddick is gone my choice for the first pick would be TJ Watt he is IMO the best linebacker in this draft behind Foster and Reddick I do not want Cunningham he can't tackle which is kind of important for a linebacker.I have been doing this for quite some time so believe me these are my top three for 23,sure we could use a left tackle but I'm tired of grabbing one every year only to move them to guard.If Flowers doesn't panout I put Pugh there again.The best olineman is Lamp,I love the Fluker signing and we can always trade Flowers for Thomas if we had too .Let's not giveup on flowers yet we have a nice blocking tightend now and speaking of that I sign Johnson back too.
RE: Linebacker is my second choice  
est1986 : 3/26/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13407041 ReneNYG1 said:
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..I love the Fluker signing and we can always trade Flowers for Thomas if we had too..


LMAO, yeah ok.
dont trade up  
xtian : 3/26/2017 1:19 pm : link
period
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