Legit scores. But Phoenix is really bad as a whole.
They're trying to lose games. The average age of the starting lineup they put out yesterday and today are younger than some tournament teams still in. Link - ( New Window )
The "next Kobe" hype was starting even before this. He isn't Kobe. But he's a young Beast and he'll be shitting on this league for a while. Most talented NBA pool of players maybe ever.
Finals participants over 4 seasons, as was true with BOS-LAL in the 1980s, we'd see articles about how the NBA is in crisis, you dont need to bother watching until the Finals etc. I mean, we're hearing it with GSW-CLE after two seasons and a 3rd headed that way.
It is. Anyone that lived/watched the 80's with the Celtics and Lakers can't stomach this garbage they regularly roll out night in and night out.
I'm so sick of this narrative. There's so much talent in this league right now it's absurd. And for as great as the 80s, there was 8 straight Finals with either the Cs or Lakers in them, 3 of which included both teams.
It is. Anyone that lived/watched the 80's with the Celtics and Lakers can't stomach this garbage they regularly roll out night in and night out.
I'm so sick of this narrative. There's so much talent in this league right now it's absurd. And for as great as the 80s, there was 8 straight Finals with either the Cs or Lakers in them, 3 of which included both teams.
There must be because there's no defense played. Regular season games are like all star games from the past. You can't touch anyone anymore. It's the softest sport by far.
more defense played night to night in the NBA today than during the 90s and 00s. A lot of memories are clouded by really physical playoff series, but today with twitter and 24/7 social media, increased games on national tv, DVRs, etc., whenever a player takes off a play on defense people know about it. The increased focus on defense on a nightly basis is a big part of why players need more rest in today's game IMO.
Yea agreed, no one ever has dominant performances in the NFL or MLB and their team loses.
Its always the usual bullshit complaining about the NBA with absolutely no backing. We get it, you don't like it. Don't post on it? No defense? You don't watch it, how would you know how much defense is being played?
Yea agreed, no one ever has dominant performances in the NFL or MLB and their team loses.
Its always the usual bullshit complaining about the NBA with absolutely no backing. We get it, you don't like it. Don't post on it? No defense? You don't watch it, how would you know how much defense is being played?
Lol, that comment coming from a website covering a team where a player was setting records while winning 11 games over a 2 year span.
I get it that many of these guys are unguardable but contesting shots and getting a hand up is rare
It's also harder because you can't just hand check someone now if they blow past you to keep them in front of them.
Same exact thing with playing CB in the NFL.
Really? All these QBs are coming in and throwing for 4500+ yards and 30+ TDs their rookie year. Is this a "golden age"of offense? No. Across all sports, scoring more points is the goal of the league office.
I'm not complaining about the level of defense played,
I'm saying that the story with the NBA is always about the individual over the team.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
That's fair. If you don't like the star power of it, then the NBA won't cater to you. It caters to enough people worldwide where that isn't an issue.
The NBA is so top heavy in talent, that it's not going to be about the overall team as much. Hell, even SA, there's no intrigue outside of Kawhi.
I'd still much rather watch that than 18 year olds running a weave play for 15 seconds or just passing it back and forth on the perimeter trying to figure out how to breakdown a 2-3. And all the blown layups and the dozens of FT attempts in the last 2 minutes of the game.
RE: I'm not complaining about the level of defense played,
Your thoughts on the NBA have always been a joke. You always talk about wanting a league where parity is not the goal. Well you have that in the NBA. But because you don't like the fact that one player can impact a game so much you make up another reason to shit on the sport.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
And Terps is going to hate anything where the athlete has any power and authority.
I'm not even a huge NBA fan compared to the other sports but the comments lately here on NBA threads have just been silly. Bunch of cranky old guys. The league is doing very well, I don't see why people keep feeling the need to tell everybody how much they dislike it
Incredible accomplishment by Booker. There were so many pros on that Kentucky team during his year there but Calipari really underutilized him. They may have won the title if he realized what he had and played him and Ulis more instead of the Harrison twins
RE: I'm not complaining about the level of defense played,
Your thoughts on the NBA have always been a joke. You always talk about wanting a league where parity is not the goal. Well you have that in the NBA. But because you don't like the fact that one player can impact a game so much you make up another reason to shit on the sport.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
It doesn't bother you that they celebrated like they won something and were mugging for pictures in the locker room and posting them all over social media when they lost the damn game?
Terps is a bit over the top, but that does rub me the wrong way.
RE: RE: I'm not complaining about the level of defense played,
I'm saying that the story with the NBA is always about the individual over the team.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
nba fans....just ignore this crap.
Feel like this sort of shit is creeping with NFL fans too...but tons of people still end up watching.
Injuries/health is a valid concern in the NFL but from a product standpoint I don't think it's diminished as much as the whiners want to make it out to be.
And speaking of star dominant sports, how many SB appearances does Brady account for? Through in Big Ben, manning Wilson, Bree's, there's really not all much parity. It's about the same variation of teams in the finals as the NBA.
And I love baseball, it's the sport I grew up on. It's not a team sport. There's a reason why it's a distant 3rd now. With international potential, I think the NBA will be the most popular American sport within 20 years.
But that team also sucks and again a kid who can't legally drink alcohol dropped 51 pts in the 2nd half of an NBA game. It was historic even in a loss. Can't blame his teammates for being excited. Him and his team were definitely gunning for 70 at the end but the fact that he was even in a position to do so is nuts.
Your thoughts on the NBA have always been a joke. You always talk about wanting a league where parity is not the goal. Well you have that in the NBA. But because you don't like the fact that one player can impact a game so much you make up another reason to shit on the sport.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
It doesn't bother you that they celebrated like they won something and were mugging for pictures in the locker room and posting them all over social media when they lost the damn game?
Terps is a bit over the top, but that does rub me the wrong way.
It's game 72 of the season, the Suns deactivated all players older than 24 at this point of the season. What else do fans want to see? NBA isn't without its flaws. This is the worst part of any season of any sport (post all star break that is).
Hit from outside the arc and drove to the basket. A real beast and is going to be a good one. He had to be because nobody else was doing anything. And yeah, they lack experience as a whole. Criss, in particular, and Criss will be an outstanding player I think, was abysmal. He might have had only one basket from the field. So, it was pretty much Booker or no one and he delivered. I'm not sure if he ever came off the floor but for a couple minutes. And they were playing for 60 and then 70. With less than a minute left and down 20, Pheonix kept fouling and calling 20 second time outs to get Booker more possessions. The bench was going crazy, even in a blowout. Even the Boston crowd was amped up to watch the kid and cheered him loudly. For a boring game, that was fun to watch.
Hit from outside the arc and drove to the basket. A real beast and is going to be a good one. He had to be because nobody else was doing anything. And yeah, they lack experience as a whole. Criss, in particular, and Criss will be an outstanding player I think, was abysmal. He might have had only one basket from the field. So, it was pretty much Booker or no one and he delivered. I'm not sure if he ever came off the floor but for a couple minutes. And they were playing for 60 and then 70. With less than a minute left and down 20, Pheonix kept fouling and calling 20 second time outs to get Booker more possessions. The bench was going crazy, even in a blowout. Even the Boston crowd was amped up to watch the kid and cheered him loudly. For a boring game, that was fun to watch.
I didn't see the game, but reading the last part of this makes me cringe. They basically made a mockery of the game that they were getting destroyed in so he could get 70, and then celebrated in the locker room and on the sidelines like they just advanced to the finals.
That's a fucking joke and should not be celebrated if that's what it takes to get to 70 points.
Hit from outside the arc and drove to the basket. A real beast and is going to be a good one. He had to be because nobody else was doing anything. And yeah, they lack experience as a whole. Criss, in particular, and Criss will be an outstanding player I think, was abysmal. He might have had only one basket from the field. So, it was pretty much Booker or no one and he delivered. I'm not sure if he ever came off the floor but for a couple minutes. And they were playing for 60 and then 70. With less than a minute left and down 20, Pheonix kept fouling and calling 20 second time outs to get Booker more possessions. The bench was going crazy, even in a blowout. Even the Boston crowd was amped up to watch the kid and cheered him loudly. For a boring game, that was fun to watch.
I didn't see the game, but reading the last part of this makes me cringe. They basically made a mockery of the game that they were getting destroyed in so he could get 70, and then celebrated in the locker room and on the sidelines like they just advanced to the finals.
That's a fucking joke and should not be celebrated if that's what it takes to get to 70 points.
So that's sounds Iike more of an indictment on the Suns as an organization than the NBA as a whole. Is this something that would happen in a Popovich vs Kerr matchup?
I don't see how you can use that as a blanket argument about the entire NBA. You're going to use the fans getting excited about something to show how the sport is a joke?
I don't even remember if the Yankees won in the game Derek Jeter homered for 3,000. Does anyone really give a shit?
I care that the players made a joke out of a game to get him 70 that they were getting killed in.
Getting killed in? I'm pretty sure it was a 10 point game with like a minute or two left.
Still, don't understand how something like this indicts the entire NBA. People watch. It's a fast growing sport. What do we do? Go on the interwebs and social media and tell all the NBA fans they are pathetic for enjoying something historic happening and everything's pussified so it doesn't even matter?
Where do we go from here? How do we stop the cause?
It was cycling between about 14 and 20 all the way through the second
Half. It was about the same the last two minutes. I don't think that the stoppages were egregious but they were noticeable because the lead was enough that teams usually just go through the motions at the end. Certainly it was evident that the stoppages were not for game strategy but to help Booker. But, like I said, I don't think it was over the top. I certainly didn't think it was unusually terrible that they tried to help him out. And as far as celebrating goes, it was an unusual event and also a bright spot in an otherwise bad experience. I didn't mind that either.
And I'm someone who always gets annoyed when teams stop playing completely the last 15 seconds or so of the game when the outcome is clear. It just looks bad to me that people stop trying, don't defend, and just stand there dribbling in place as time expires.
They are a young, 50 loss team, playing for virtually nothing. If I'm a Celtics player I get being annoyed for dragging out the game. If you're a Suns fan, it's something to be entertained by in an otherwise shitty season.
Fouling intentionally so a kid could set an individual mark in a game that was never competitive is beyond insane. At least Kobe won when he got 81.
Let's see: Fake records like this, good teams resting players in televised games, bad teams tanking all the time. Great product!
It's official. The NBA regular season is a joke. Fans who pay money to go deserve to get fleeced. I mean I attend the Nets games for $10 since that's about what the game should be worth. Paying triple figures for an NBA regular season game is simply a dumb decision unless you are a celebrity and your publicist requires you attend.
Fouling intentionally so a kid could set an individual mark in a game that was never competitive is beyond insane. At least Kobe won when he got 81.
Let's see: Fake records like this, good teams resting players in televised games, bad teams tanking all the time. Great product!
It's official. The NBA regular season is a joke. Fans who pay money to go deserve to get fleeced. I mean I attend the Nets games for $10 since that's about what the game should be worth. Paying triple figures for an NBA regular season game is simply a dumb decision unless you are a celebrity and your publicist requires you attend.
You think the fans that just saw both their team win and a 20 year old kid score 70 felt fleeced? That's about as good an outcome as you can expect when one of the best teams in any sports league is playing one of the worst. People really complain about the dumbest shit.
And Terps is going to hate anything where the athlete has any power and authority.
I'm not even a huge NBA fan compared to the other sports but the comments lately here on NBA threads have just been silly. Bunch of cranky old guys. The league is doing very well, I don't see why people keep feeling the need to tell everybody how much they dislike it
Incredible accomplishment by Booker. There were so many pros on that Kentucky team during his year there but Calipari really underutilized him. They may have won the title if he realized what he had and played him and Ulis more instead of the Harrison twins
Yup. The same posters keep telling us how much the NBA sucks, how it was better in the '80s, yada, yada, yada.
The NBA is the second most popular sport in this country. And it's great.
As for the Suns celebrating his 70 points in a loss, I agree with Mook. It is pretty weak.
is irrelevant to myself or anyone else that doesn't like it anymore. Soccer ratings are on the rise but most Americans still don't like it, and that doesn't bother me one bit.
The NBA or any other sport being popular doesn't put money in my pocket so I don't really care what the success is.
is irrelevant to myself or anyone else that doesn't like it anymore. Soccer ratings are on the rise but most Americans still don't like it, and that doesn't bother me one bit.
The NBA or any other sport being popular doesn't put money in my pocket so I don't really care what the success is.
Well the proof is in the pudding. Non-NBA fans clearly care about it enough to derail a thread about a certain player into a thread about the legitimacy of the NBA.
Is complaining about how much you don't care about something mean you really don't care about it, or is that inherently part of the whole "get off my lawn" act?
And when I say "you", I mean the proverbial "you", not taking any direct shots.
Honest question - if you hate the current state, is it because you once were into it and now you're not?
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
Honest question - if you hate the current state, is it because you once were into it and now you're not?
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
Good question - I used to love the NBA and now hate it. I've been on BBI for something like 17 years now give or take and used to post my opinion and reasons for disliking the current NBA. I've had my say and prefer to stay out of these discussions. I agree with Terps pretty much completely on this topic, and don't feel a need to add anything. I wouldn't have posted but for your very good question.
As a side note I lost my passion for the NHL as well, but that had nothing to do with the product. I just didn't have time to watch the games and over time found I knew next to nothing about my favorite team. I could see a future where I watch it again (perhaps in retirement?). I can't imagine losing interest in the NFL or MLB though, basically because MLB was such an important part of my sports youth and the NFL has been such an important part of my adult life. Also, my entire family has become avid Giants fans.
I say good for Booker and all the fans that care. I'm sorry for the fans who love the NBA and are upset by this type of game.
It's interesting to me because after not really caring much about basketball for big chunks of time, the last couple of years I've started following it again.
The star players are for the most part high effort, tough and good defenders. The perennial match up is a good chance, but no one would be surprised if the Celtics and Spurs head off in the finals this year.
The current NBA is actually a lot more like the league I grew up on. I don't get what's so outrageously wrong.
Honest question - if you hate the current state, is it because you once were into it and now you're not?
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
I like sports in general and sports is about competition. The fact that there is not incentive to win games in the NBA is a major problem. I don't think it's as pronounced in other sports.
For example, we didn't gain anything by beating the Skins on the last day but the opportunity to knock out a division rival was too good to pass up. That's what competition is all about.
If you notice, I always say the NBA regular season. But if you're a fan paying top dollar for playoff games, that makes perfect sense. That's when the league showcase itself and last year's finals - and the year before - were epic. I'll watch playoff hoops any day and pass on a regular season where there is little incentive.
It's interesting to me because after not really caring much about basketball for big chunks of time, the last couple of years I've started following it again.
The star players are for the most part high effort, tough and good defenders. The perennial match up is a good chance, but no one would be surprised if the Celtics and Spurs head off in the finals this year.
The current NBA is actually a lot more like the league I grew up on. I don't get what's so outrageously wrong.
I won't dig up my issues with the league as this thread became entirely derailed by that discussion already. I will say that maybe the game has reverted to what it once was and would be more enjoyable for me now. If I get the kind of time needed to give it another shot I might have to do it.
To be honest, I'm more likely to go back to the NHL though at this point first, so it would probably have to wait until near retirement age (still pretty far off in the distance).
They're trying to lose games. The average age of the starting lineup they put out yesterday and today are younger than some tournament teams still in.
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Agreed, no other sports or leagues have blow outs from playing young players.
70 holy shit
Isnt that an apples to oranges comp? Not every matchup in the 1980s was Celtics-Lakers good. Actually, none were except that one.
I'm so sick of this narrative. There's so much talent in this league right now it's absurd. And for as great as the 80s, there was 8 straight Finals with either the Cs or Lakers in them, 3 of which included both teams.
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It is. Anyone that lived/watched the 80's with the Celtics and Lakers can't stomach this garbage they regularly roll out night in and night out.
I'm so sick of this narrative. There's so much talent in this league right now it's absurd. And for as great as the 80s, there was 8 straight Finals with either the Cs or Lakers in them, 3 of which included both teams.
There must be because there's no defense played. Regular season games are like all star games from the past. You can't touch anyone anymore. It's the softest sport by far.
Yea agreed, no one ever has dominant performances in the NFL or MLB and their team loses.
Its always the usual bullshit complaining about the NBA with absolutely no backing. We get it, you don't like it. Don't post on it? No defense? You don't watch it, how would you know how much defense is being played?
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The NBA is such a terrible sport.
Yea agreed, no one ever has dominant performances in the NFL or MLB and their team loses.
Its always the usual bullshit complaining about the NBA with absolutely no backing. We get it, you don't like it. Don't post on it? No defense? You don't watch it, how would you know how much defense is being played?
Lol, that comment coming from a website covering a team where a player was setting records while winning 11 games over a 2 year span.
It's also harder because you can't just hand check someone now if they blow past you to keep them in front of them.
Same exact thing with playing CB in the NFL.
Really? All these QBs are coming in and throwing for 4500+ yards and 30+ TDs their rookie year. Is this a "golden age"of offense? No. Across all sports, scoring more points is the goal of the league office.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
That's fair. If you don't like the star power of it, then the NBA won't cater to you. It caters to enough people worldwide where that isn't an issue.
The NBA is so top heavy in talent, that it's not going to be about the overall team as much. Hell, even SA, there's no intrigue outside of Kawhi.
I'd still much rather watch that than 18 year olds running a weave play for 15 seconds or just passing it back and forth on the perimeter trying to figure out how to breakdown a 2-3. And all the blown layups and the dozens of FT attempts in the last 2 minutes of the game.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
Cool- good thing other sports don't have superstars people go to see play.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
I'm not even a huge NBA fan compared to the other sports but the comments lately here on NBA threads have just been silly. Bunch of cranky old guys. The league is doing very well, I don't see why people keep feeling the need to tell everybody how much they dislike it
Incredible accomplishment by Booker. There were so many pros on that Kentucky team during his year there but Calipari really underutilized him. They may have won the title if he realized what he had and played him and Ulis more instead of the Harrison twins
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
nba fans....just ignore this crap.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
It doesn't bother you that they celebrated like they won something and were mugging for pictures in the locker room and posting them all over social media when they lost the damn game?
Terps is a bit over the top, but that does rub me the wrong way.
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I'm saying that the story with the NBA is always about the individual over the team.
It's always the same narrative with the NBA: don't come see the team play... Come see LeBron or Kobe or whoever.
The story here isn't about who won or lost, but the guy that scored 70.
nba fans....just ignore this crap.
Feel like this sort of shit is creeping with NFL fans too...but tons of people still end up watching.
Injuries/health is a valid concern in the NFL but from a product standpoint I don't think it's diminished as much as the whiners want to make it out to be.
And speaking of star dominant sports, how many SB appearances does Brady account for? Through in Big Ben, manning Wilson, Bree's, there's really not all much parity. It's about the same variation of teams in the finals as the NBA.
And I love baseball, it's the sport I grew up on. It's not a team sport. There's a reason why it's a distant 3rd now. With international potential, I think the NBA will be the most popular American sport within 20 years.
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Your thoughts on the NBA have always been a joke. You always talk about wanting a league where parity is not the goal. Well you have that in the NBA. But because you don't like the fact that one player can impact a game so much you make up another reason to shit on the sport.
70 points for a 20 year old... nah that totally shouldn't be mentioned at all because his team lost. Fuckin ridiculous. The NBA has more "irrational" haters that any of the major sports.
It doesn't bother you that they celebrated like they won something and were mugging for pictures in the locker room and posting them all over social media when they lost the damn game?
Terps is a bit over the top, but that does rub me the wrong way.
It's game 72 of the season, the Suns deactivated all players older than 24 at this point of the season. What else do fans want to see? NBA isn't without its flaws. This is the worst part of any season of any sport (post all star break that is).
I didn't see the game, but reading the last part of this makes me cringe. They basically made a mockery of the game that they were getting destroyed in so he could get 70, and then celebrated in the locker room and on the sidelines like they just advanced to the finals.
That's a fucking joke and should not be celebrated if that's what it takes to get to 70 points.
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Hit from outside the arc and drove to the basket. A real beast and is going to be a good one. He had to be because nobody else was doing anything. And yeah, they lack experience as a whole. Criss, in particular, and Criss will be an outstanding player I think, was abysmal. He might have had only one basket from the field. So, it was pretty much Booker or no one and he delivered. I'm not sure if he ever came off the floor but for a couple minutes. And they were playing for 60 and then 70. With less than a minute left and down 20, Pheonix kept fouling and calling 20 second time outs to get Booker more possessions. The bench was going crazy, even in a blowout. Even the Boston crowd was amped up to watch the kid and cheered him loudly. For a boring game, that was fun to watch.
I didn't see the game, but reading the last part of this makes me cringe. They basically made a mockery of the game that they were getting destroyed in so he could get 70, and then celebrated in the locker room and on the sidelines like they just advanced to the finals.
That's a fucking joke and should not be celebrated if that's what it takes to get to 70 points.
So that's sounds Iike more of an indictment on the Suns as an organization than the NBA as a whole. Is this something that would happen in a Popovich vs Kerr matchup?
I don't see how you can use that as a blanket argument about the entire NBA. You're going to use the fans getting excited about something to show how the sport is a joke?
I don't even remember if the Yankees won in the game Derek Jeter homered for 3,000. Does anyone really give a shit?
Getting killed in? I'm pretty sure it was a 10 point game with like a minute or two left.
Still, don't understand how something like this indicts the entire NBA. People watch. It's a fast growing sport. What do we do? Go on the interwebs and social media and tell all the NBA fans they are pathetic for enjoying something historic happening and everything's pussified so it doesn't even matter?
Where do we go from here? How do we stop the cause?
And I'm someone who always gets annoyed when teams stop playing completely the last 15 seconds or so of the game when the outcome is clear. It just looks bad to me that people stop trying, don't defend, and just stand there dribbling in place as time expires.
Thinking this is a travesty is beyond dorky.
Let's see: Fake records like this, good teams resting players in televised games, bad teams tanking all the time. Great product!
It's official. The NBA regular season is a joke. Fans who pay money to go deserve to get fleeced. I mean I attend the Nets games for $10 since that's about what the game should be worth. Paying triple figures for an NBA regular season game is simply a dumb decision unless you are a celebrity and your publicist requires you attend.
Let's see: Fake records like this, good teams resting players in televised games, bad teams tanking all the time. Great product!
It's official. The NBA regular season is a joke. Fans who pay money to go deserve to get fleeced. I mean I attend the Nets games for $10 since that's about what the game should be worth. Paying triple figures for an NBA regular season game is simply a dumb decision unless you are a celebrity and your publicist requires you attend.
You think the fans that just saw both their team win and a 20 year old kid score 70 felt fleeced? That's about as good an outcome as you can expect when one of the best teams in any sports league is playing one of the worst. People really complain about the dumbest shit.
I'm not even a huge NBA fan compared to the other sports but the comments lately here on NBA threads have just been silly. Bunch of cranky old guys. The league is doing very well, I don't see why people keep feeling the need to tell everybody how much they dislike it
Incredible accomplishment by Booker. There were so many pros on that Kentucky team during his year there but Calipari really underutilized him. They may have won the title if he realized what he had and played him and Ulis more instead of the Harrison twins
Yup. The same posters keep telling us how much the NBA sucks, how it was better in the '80s, yada, yada, yada.
The NBA is the second most popular sport in this country. And it's great.
As for the Suns celebrating his 70 points in a loss, I agree with Mook. It is pretty weak.
The NBA or any other sport being popular doesn't put money in my pocket so I don't really care what the success is.
The NBA or any other sport being popular doesn't put money in my pocket so I don't really care what the success is.
Well the proof is in the pudding. Non-NBA fans clearly care about it enough to derail a thread about a certain player into a thread about the legitimacy of the NBA.
Is complaining about how much you don't care about something mean you really don't care about it, or is that inherently part of the whole "get off my lawn" act?
And when I say "you", I mean the proverbial "you", not taking any direct shots.
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
Good question - I used to love the NBA and now hate it. I've been on BBI for something like 17 years now give or take and used to post my opinion and reasons for disliking the current NBA. I've had my say and prefer to stay out of these discussions. I agree with Terps pretty much completely on this topic, and don't feel a need to add anything. I wouldn't have posted but for your very good question.
As a side note I lost my passion for the NHL as well, but that had nothing to do with the product. I just didn't have time to watch the games and over time found I knew next to nothing about my favorite team. I could see a future where I watch it again (perhaps in retirement?). I can't imagine losing interest in the NFL or MLB though, basically because MLB was such an important part of my sports youth and the NFL has been such an important part of my adult life. Also, my entire family has become avid Giants fans.
I say good for Booker and all the fans that care. I'm sorry for the fans who love the NBA and are upset by this type of game.
The star players are for the most part high effort, tough and good defenders. The perennial match up is a good chance, but no one would be surprised if the Celtics and Spurs head off in the finals this year.
The current NBA is actually a lot more like the league I grew up on. I don't get what's so outrageously wrong.
Seems weird to me to torpedo a discussion about something you don't like, just to chime in you don't like it.
Reminds me of wrestling threads. I think it's lame and I don't understand. But if people are geeking out over it, it'd be weird to jump in and post a comment. Even weirder to do that and not even stick around.
I like sports in general and sports is about competition. The fact that there is not incentive to win games in the NBA is a major problem. I don't think it's as pronounced in other sports.
For example, we didn't gain anything by beating the Skins on the last day but the opportunity to knock out a division rival was too good to pass up. That's what competition is all about.
If you notice, I always say the NBA regular season. But if you're a fan paying top dollar for playoff games, that makes perfect sense. That's when the league showcase itself and last year's finals - and the year before - were epic. I'll watch playoff hoops any day and pass on a regular season where there is little incentive.
Cetlic fans were cheering for Booker the last 6 minutes of the game.
I thought the effort was good from where I sat. Thomas got whatever shot he wanted.
Celtics seem to embrace the team concept.
The star players are for the most part high effort, tough and good defenders. The perennial match up is a good chance, but no one would be surprised if the Celtics and Spurs head off in the finals this year.
The current NBA is actually a lot more like the league I grew up on. I don't get what's so outrageously wrong.
I won't dig up my issues with the league as this thread became entirely derailed by that discussion already. I will say that maybe the game has reverted to what it once was and would be more enjoyable for me now. If I get the kind of time needed to give it another shot I might have to do it.
To be honest, I'm more likely to go back to the NHL though at this point first, so it would probably have to wait until near retirement age (still pretty far off in the distance).