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GmenSoFla : 3/25/2017 7:01 am
I have a feeling that the Giants will target Taylor Moten, the o lineman from Western Michigan, in round 2 and will trade up in the 2nd round in order to get him, similar to what they did to get Landon Collins. I think Moten will be a stud and will solidify the o line from day one. I watched Western Michigan play many times the past 2 years and this guy seems to be the real deal and performed very well against the best teams in the big ten.
I like him...  
2ndroundKO : 3/25/2017 7:17 am : link
but I hope we don't have to trade up.
He's been my guy for the Giants in the 2nd round now for about a month  
Optimus-NY : 3/25/2017 7:19 am : link
I'd love this kid with the 55th overall pick. I don't know about trading up for him though. I'd rather stay put at 55 and nabbing him there.
Typically, guys like this that BBI loves  
ZogZerg : 3/25/2017 7:34 am : link
go much higher in the draft than folks expect.
Love Moten to for RG or RT  
Earl the goat : 3/25/2017 9:00 am : link
Njoku
Moten
Foreman

Reese has hit a home run
Do you really think replacing Jerry at RG is more important than  
Ivan15 : 3/25/2017 9:06 am : link
replacing Flowers at LT?

Moten is strictly a guard. I would rather have Lamp to compete with Flowers and the loser will backup both LT and LG. If Lamp drops out of 1st round, trade up in Round 2.
What a way to waste a pick  
Bob in Newburgh : 3/25/2017 9:54 am : link
I like Lamp, and have no problem with him as our pick.

However, if you want to insure that he will be worth a lot less than a 1st rounder should be, use your try him here, there and everywhere plan.

If you take Lamp, you determine his rookie position at rookie camp and ota's. You stick him there and let him concentrate his rookie year.
Moton's a RG or RT. How he solidifies the line,  
yatqb : 3/25/2017 10:02 am : link
when Flowers still mans LT and Fluker, Jerry and Hart can only play on that same side, eludes me. Nice player, though.

Dawkins has the same issues...although he was a LT in college I think he's a RG in the pros.
Moten  
Archer : 3/25/2017 10:43 am : link
Some team will fall in love with his measurable's and likely draft him early.

But he is a tween-er.
Lots off people seem to love Moten's potential.
But he is an enigma.
He looks like a OT but plays better at guard.

Very large player but he has a problem with his feet in pass protection as a result he stands tall and has difficulty maintaining pad level. Speed rushers give him problems.

However, he seems nimble when pulling and he is able to drop and strike. He gets to the second level.

Is much better against the run then in pass protection.
Good punch and long arms.

If the Giants are looking for a guard Moten could be the player, but I would not draft him as an OT.
I  
AcidTest : 3/25/2017 11:16 am : link
think if Reese moves up, it will be in round one, for either Trubisky or Mahomes. I can only imagine the howls of protest here if that happens.
Problem with replacing Flowers is  
edavisiii : 3/25/2017 11:59 am : link
there might not be anybody in the draft who is going to be better!
Spell his name right at least  
allstarjim : 3/25/2017 11:59 am : link
Taylor Moton... Is a OG, maybe a RT at the next level more than likely. The goal for addressing OL is getting a player that can move Flowers to the right side. Moton doesn't have the feet for LT. He could surprise everyone but bottom line is the projection is he'll be a OG, and perhaps a RT.

I like Lamp also as much as the next guy, but he has short arms. I don't think he'll be a LT at the next level. I think the Giants, if they really want to fix LT, have to draft Ramczyk or Bolles in the first. I'm not concerned about the former's surgery.

If they don't get either of those guys, then you don't force it. Perhaps you get a guy who you can develop who has some LT traits later in the draft like Davenport.

Dawkins is also intriguing. I don't believe he is a OG only. I think he can play anywhere on the line if he puts the work in, including LT. But more than likely he'd be a great OG early.

Tunsil and Dallas' Smith  
grizz299 : 3/25/2017 12:26 pm : link
were the most highly rated OLT to come out in years. Both started off their careers as guards as did the great Jonathon Ogden.
Having said that, I think it's obvious that Flowers' is playing OLT next year. And we have to trust that they've seen something know what theyh're doing.
Tunsil and Dallas' Smith  
grizz299 : 3/25/2017 12:27 pm : link
were the most highly rated OLT to come out in years. Both started off their careers as guards as did the great Jonathon Ogden.
Having said that, I think it's obvious that Flowers' is playing OLT next year. And we have to trust that they've seen something know what theyh're doing.
RE: Tunsil and Dallas' Smith  
allstarjim : 3/25/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13406229 grizz299 said:
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were the most highly rated OLT to come out in years. Both started off their careers as guards as did the great Jonathon Ogden.
Having said that, I think it's obvious that Flowers' is playing OLT next year. And we have to trust that they've seen something know what theyh're doing.


They do know what they're doing... which is why they have interviewed and visited with more OL than any other position, especially the LT candidates. Of course, it's the season of deception and smokescreens, but I believe that they are doing their due diligence, and if the evaluations are pretty close, they are going to take a OT in the first, and the only reason you do that is to find a franchise LT.

I'm not an asshat and clearly if a player falls that they have a much higher grade on, or if Ramczyk AND Bolles is gone prior to 23, then they are going to take the BPA on their board, regardless of position (except QB).

And I'll save the QB argument for another thread.
Giants top Oline pick  
mrvax : 3/25/2017 2:31 pm : link
needs to provide insurance for 2 current players: Flowers and Pugh.

Flowers- obvious reasons.

Pugh- based upon F/A numbers this year, Pugh may command a price the Giants cannot afford next year.
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