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NFT: 3/25 Knicks Talk - Noah Suspended 20 Games

guitarguybs12 : 3/25/2017 10:55 am
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Joakim Noah will be suspended 20 games for violating the NBA’s anti-drug policy—reportedly for taking an over-the-counter supplement that is currently banned by the league but will no longer be prohibited under the next season’s new collective bargaining agreement.


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At least we're only nine games away from the offseason.  
bceagle05 : 3/26/2017 11:10 am : link
Sure would be nice to hear from Phil when this is over.
RE: At least we're only nine games away from the offseason.  
DanMetroMan : 3/26/2017 11:16 am : link
In comment 13407031 bceagle05 said:
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Sure would be nice to hear from Phil when this is over.


I'm admittedly critical of Phil but I really do find it bizarre how he handles the media. Why doesn't he try and create the narrative instead of letting others? Get out there and speak on your terms.
Yeah he got out in front of it two years ago  
bceagle05 : 3/26/2017 11:23 am : link
and it was helpful. I remember he and Mills even held a "town hall" for fans that aired on MSG Network. People would be thrilled if he admitted we made one last attempt to build around Melo and it failed, now we're going in a new direction.
RE: Since  
Matt M. : 3/26/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13406188 mitch300 said:
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There are only 10 games left in the season,would he have to sit out 10 next season when it is not illegal ?
The league said he will begin serving the suspension when he is physically able to play.
Russ Westbrook triple-double watch  
dpinzow : 3/26/2017 3:44 pm : link
Through 71 games, Westbrook is averaging 31.2 pts, 10.4 assists, and 10.5 rebounds per game. Westbrook needs 76 rebounds and 85 assists in his last 11 regular season games to average the season triple double
RE: RE: At least we're only nine games away from the offseason.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/26/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13407039 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13407031 bceagle05 said:


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Sure would be nice to hear from Phil when this is over.



I'm admittedly critical of Phil but I really do find it bizarre how he handles the media. Why doesn't he try and create the narrative instead of letting others? Get out there and speak on your terms.


Honestly don't think it's him.

Nobody in this city hates the media more than Dolan. Phil Jackson couldn't stop talking to the media in LA. It's how he used to get his agendas out, play mind games with refs, and tweak his players.
Kings  
Jon in NYC : 3/26/2017 6:09 pm : link
come back 18 down vs the Clips.

Knicks currently in a tie for 4th, but the sixers, kings and wolves are all right there.

Nice!  
Carl in CT : 3/26/2017 6:12 pm : link
Currently 5 could move to 4 if we tank. Come on Phil don't fuck it up!
RE: Kings  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13407318 Jon in NYC said:
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come back 18 down vs the Clips.

Knicks currently in a tie for 4th, but the sixers, kings and wolves are all right there.


Sixers play Pacers now, pretty winnable.

The sixers/knicks slots will be settled on the last day of the season I feel like.

Big win for SAC. Knicks will be (un)favored in probably every single game until the Sixers matchup. I like the sound of 4th.
Beat me to it.  
bceagle05 : 3/26/2017 6:14 pm : link
It's been a nice weekend for the tank, no doubt. Detroit's limping into MSG tomorrow night though. Hopefully Melo's out again.
Bc i mentioned this earlier  
nygiants16 : 3/26/2017 6:27 pm : link
but this melo thing seems like one of those things they are going to use rest of the season..

if the past 2 games meant anything no dkubt he plays
RE: Nice!  
Anakim : 3/26/2017 6:52 pm : link
In comment 13407321 Carl in CT said:
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Currently 5 could move to 4 if we tank. Come on Phil don't fuck it up!


Haha, what would Phil do to fuck it up? Coach the team?
Fox is growing on me  
Deej : 3/26/2017 7:08 pm : link
I've yet to see Monk do anything over 3 partial games I've watched. Monk is just totally uninvolved. Both have excellent athleticism though.
Fox  
Jon in NYC : 3/26/2017 7:09 pm : link
is growing on me too, but he needs to develop an outside shot. He just has 0 range right now.
Intigue of fox is there  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 7:12 pm : link
He still seems hesitant to take anyone one on one. Scared of TOs it seems like (just speculating).
I think fox will be a good player  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 7:16 pm : link
I just don't see what warrants a top 5 pick outside athleticism.
Does Eric still want  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 7:31 pm : link
his apology?
One good thing about foxs jumper  
nygiants16 : 3/26/2017 7:33 pm : link
his form is not screwed up..

he also has had good games shooting from midrange and his 3 point shot got.better as season has gone on..

it is hard not to like him
He's also the best free throw shooter of the 4 PGs  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/26/2017 7:35 pm : link
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Shump  
Jon in NYC : 3/26/2017 8:26 pm : link
was a good FT shooter in college too.
This may sound  
Jon in NYC : 3/26/2017 8:30 pm : link
fucked up, but seeing Fox cry after losing today makes me want to draft him more. I just want some dudes that fucking care, are smart, and play hard.
Feel the same way about Fox, and was just about to post that.  
bceagle05 : 3/26/2017 8:39 pm : link
If we ever get good, it'll be because a group of young guys who give a shit take ownership of the team. KP fits that description, but we need more.
RE: Feel the same way about Fox, and was just about to post that.  
Jon in NYC : 3/26/2017 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13407406 bceagle05 said:
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If we ever get good, it'll be because a group of young guys who give a shit take ownership of the team. KP fits that description, but we need more.


It's really a culture thing. Melo is a hell of a player, but I honestly don't think he cares enough about winning.
Fox seems like a great kid overall  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 8:47 pm : link
That part I'm not worried about. Seems pretty smart, high character. A true basketball lifer.

It's just all the John Wall comps are unfairly going to be thrown around draft time.
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RE: Shump  
nygiants16 : 3/26/2017 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13407396 Jon in NYC said:
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was a good FT shooter in college too.


Man i was wrong about shump i thought he was going to be a steal
RE: Shump  
giantsfan44ab : 3/26/2017 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13407396 Jon in NYC said:
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was a good FT shooter in college too.


I'm actually taking a sports analytics class and my group in that class is analyzing a data set that has NBA players current and college shooting stats.

So for curiosity sake, I just went and looked at players that shot as high as Fox has from the line (74%) and as poorly as he has had from 3 (23%, before adjusting for todays game) and he'd be the first guard to do so (caveat: the data set starts from 2000).

But if you expand the query a little (70% or higher college FT%, 30% or lower college 3pt shooting), there are 8 players, 3 of which have shot better than 35% in the NBA: Mo Williams (shot 85% from FT in college), Henry Walker (?) and Kyle Weaver (also ?).

The other 5 who shot below 35% from 3 in the NBA are Tyreke Evans, Marcus smart, jeryl sasser (?), Ray McCallum, and Will Barton.

%s are strictly career numbers.
The problem with nearly all of these comparisons,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/27/2017 12:28 am : link
especially the Iman Shumpert (huh?) one, is that Fox is being compared to guys who did not leave college after their freshman seasons. For example, it took 3 years in college for Shumpert to be a "good" free throw shooter. As a freshman, Shumpert's shooting statistics were across the board abominable. I didn't even say that Fox was a "good" FT shooter... I just said he was better than Fultz, Ball, and Smith Jr.

Evans is probably the closest comparison, but they were clearly not the same level of athlete as freshmen (and Evans was good athlete and a high lottery pick).



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