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NFT: NCAA BB: Archie Miller to Indiana

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/25/2017 12:43 pm
Per Jeff Goodman, Wojo and a bunch more on Twitter.

Jeff Goodman& #8207;Verified account @GoodmanESPN 15m15 minutes ago
Indiana hiring Dayton's Archie Miller, sources told ESPN.

Yay! (?)  
giantsfan44ab : 3/25/2017 12:50 pm : link
Honestly don't know much about him, thoughts? He's done well with low talent, so that's always a plus.
Knew Bennett wasn't going anywhere  
Greg from LI : 3/25/2017 1:08 pm : link
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Good Hire  
MetsAreBack : 3/25/2017 1:30 pm : link
but I'm guessing he feels like a backup plan as I'm fairly sure they were going hard after Alford but were told No after UCLA's season ended yesterday.
Judging by the wailing on Indiana boards, yes  
Greg from LI : 3/25/2017 1:34 pm : link
Which is hilarious because Miller is a far superior coach to Alford. Hell, Alford had to agree to a pay cut to keep his job.
Alford  
MookGiants : 3/25/2017 1:55 pm : link
should have taken the Indiana job.

Yes, UCLA is a better job, but it is far less secure than Indiana. He'll be fired in a couple years. No one lasts at UCLA these days, he was almost out after last year.

At Indiana especially considering he's one of their own they would give him plenty of time.
RE: Judging by the wailing on Indiana boards, yes  
giantsfan44ab : 3/25/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13406281 Greg from LI said:
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Which is hilarious because Miller is a far superior coach to Alford. Hell, Alford had to agree to a pay cut to keep his job.


I steer clear of those. IU fans hate all of our best players/coaching moves. Not completely unwarranted, but vastly overdone at times.
RE: Alford  
giantsfan44ab : 3/25/2017 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13406295 MookGiants said:
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should have taken the Indiana job.

Yes, UCLA is a better job, but it is far less secure than Indiana. He'll be fired in a couple years. No one lasts at UCLA these days, he was almost out after last year.

At Indiana especially considering he's one of their own they would give him plenty of time.


Which is why I'm fine not getting Alford
Wait  
B in ALB : 3/25/2017 2:41 pm : link
I read right here on bbi that Bennett was getting the Indiana job.
a 'meh' hire  
Stan in LA : 3/25/2017 3:11 pm : link
Wasn't as good a coaching prospect as Sean was coming out of Xavier. Per KenPom, Sean's last 3 Xavier teams were better than any of Archie's 6 Dayton teams.
RE: a 'meh' hire  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/25/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13406373 Stan in LA said:
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Wasn't as good a coaching prospect as Sean was coming out of Xavier. Per KenPom, Sean's last 3 Xavier teams were better than any of Archie's 6 Dayton teams.


Fair, but Archie raised the level of the Dayton program, whereas Xavier remains a step above and Sean was only one part of a long line of good coaches, Mack most recently. Archie did this on his own.
The Miller Brothers  
RetroJint : 3/25/2017 3:48 pm : link
Sean can recruit . Archie coaches the game better. From the sideline, there might not be a better coach in the game. Calapari said something similar on Selection Night.

Indiana showed incredible patience with Kreane. They've never been the same since Bob Knight left. Davis got into the Final Four his first season basically leaving the team he inherited from Knight on auto pilot.

Archie used transfers to build his teams at Dayton. 85% of this thing is recruiting . Motta is finding out in Columbus how quickly it can all unravel. In his case, his staff has let him down. He replaced a guy last season. He needs to ace another now. People forget the assistants when a program is measured. Revenue , budget, facilities-they all matter. But quality assistants are absolutely essential for a sustained winning program . It's a tradition-rich program that Arch inherits . Indiana will forever be s hoops school. They need to be a national factor .

Good thing IU  
giantsfan44ab : 3/25/2017 5:28 pm : link
Probably lost all its recruits this season.

There's enough talent that I can hope for maybe a tournament bid next season. Bryant is frustrating and you can't build a reliable defense with him, so him going to the NBA may be a favorable thing. Losing OG will be the biggest hit to the team, can't see them being that dominant.

Keeping talent within the state of Indiana may always be an issue for the school.
A very good coach  
The 12th Man : 3/25/2017 7:38 pm : link
I went to St. Bonnies and Dayton is in our division, I had watched. A lot of their games over the last few years. The are always well coached play solid D and like the 3. I am glad he is leaving our conference.
Here to take my medicine.  
Meats and Cheeses : 3/27/2017 2:31 pm : link
So last Monday, Tony Bennett had an initial meeting in Atlanta with Indiana that went well, but he, ultimately, decided that he was comfortable where he was at Virginia...which is not surprising.

Indiana really only targeted Bennett and Archie Miller, who was aggressive in pursuing the job. Alford was never considered for the job and he knew that before UCLA played Kentucky. Once it was clear that Bennett was a no-go, things moved very quickly with Archie Miller. Overall, I think Indiana got a pretty talented, young coach.

Virginia fans should feel pretty good about Bennett staying there for the long haul if they had any concern that he might not.
Interesting. Thanks M&C  
MetsAreBack : 3/27/2017 3:07 pm : link
I still find the timing peculiar though that they announced the afternoon after UCLA was eliminated by Kentucky.

I find it hard to believe they never approached Alford as they seemed to be waiting UCLA's season out...
Archie Miller had already been offered the job prior to UCLA-Kentucky  
Meats and Cheeses : 3/27/2017 3:43 pm : link
Steve Alford's representation was aware of that and is likely why he said the things he said after the UCLA game.
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