NFT: Clinton eulogy of Martin McGuinnes

Bill Clinton.

To deliver a speech like that, or any of the other greats in the Clinton canon, while being a functioning sociopath (essentially the broad charge against him) seems to beggar belief.

Not a sociopath. Even people who don't like him generally acknowledge he is intelligent and a master politician

In comment 13406560 Vanzetti said:

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Not a sociopath. Even people who don't like him generally acknowledge he is intelligent and a master politician

Even "greedy and corrupt" is hard to square with the image he casts as a public speaker. Plenty of greedy and corrupt people try to connect with an audience. None of them do it that well - a level of phoniness always comes through.

Clinton has essentially been accused of being a serial rapist. I know psychopaths and sociopaths can be quite charming - Ted Bundy comes to mind, but if Clinton is as awful a human being as some say, his ability to project empathy in spite of that seem unrivaled.

a charmer

At being sociopathic/psychopathic. A true Master.

imho

In comment 13406634 gtt350 said:

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imho

Who's*, not whose. One wonders if your ability to see things clearly (in this instance or others) is as lacking as your grammar.

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Clinton has not been accused of being a "serial rapist". Get your facts straight Blacklight. Accused on one occasion, yes. Never proven. He obviously is a pervert and a philanderer who used his positions of power to get his rocks off, but serial rapist no. Don't make stuff up, you come off looking very poor.

politician and are fantastic speaker. Give credit were credit is due.

...since about 2000.

my biggest pet peeve is the misuse of you're and your but i don't become a jerkoff spell check policeman.

opinion. take a look in the mirror before hitting submit you come off way worse than your criticism of others

you spelled whose correctly. Congrats on that front.

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Of his time. From all accounts.

certainly thought so

but Bill Clinton has been said to be one of the few who possess a special aura, such that he commands the attention of whatever event he's at. Apparently he has that "it" factor. Folks have said that when he speaks to you, you feel as if you're the only person that matters in the room.

have been the subject of a partisan smear campaign for 25+ years. Both have been great public servants. They're far from perfect but the level of hate and ridiculous accusations is over the top.

How many references to crowd size?

In comment 13406651 Overseer said:

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Clinton has not been accused of being a "serial rapist". Get your facts straight Blacklight. Accused on one occasion, yes. Never proven. He obviously is a pervert and a philanderer who used his positions of power to get his rocks off, but serial rapist no. Don't make stuff up, you come off looking very poor.

He most certainly has been accused of that. Not credibly, I agree. But we needn't pretend the accusation has never been made.

Investigated? And what has been found given the millions that have been spent investigating them?

And could 45 pass that level of scrutiny?

whether backed up by facts or not. Sad times for our democracy.

qualify as "public servants." they may get into politics for the right reasons but they almost universally become enamored with the sound of their own voices and the allure of power and wealth otherwise unattainable.

Hilly & Billy are certainly not unique in this aspect of political life but they have made a fortune from their lives in "public service."

being a public servant is quite good. Maybe more of us should try that.

rape, murder, running a drug ring, & pretty much everything else under the sun.