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Doctors have assured Steven Matz that this is not a ligament injury. He didn't have an MRI. But the Mets will back off Matz for a few days.
About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny
About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny
Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.
In this day and age, with all the injuries to pitchers, every single ache and pain must freak them out. When in reality, I'm sure every pitcher will tell you their arm is sore after starts.
The act of pitching is basically the act of injuring your arm over and over. Must be difficult to discern when it's the usual minor injury you recover from with rest and the beginning of a more serious injury.
Jose Reyes, 3B
Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
Yoenis Cespedes, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
Neil Walker, 2B
Jay Bruce, RF
Lucas Duda, 1B
Kevin Plawecki, C
Matt Harvey, RHP
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Ender Inciarte, CF
Dansby Swanson, SS
Adonis Garcia, 3B
Tyler Flowers, C
Jace Peterson, 2B
Mel Rojas Jr., RF
Matt Tuiasosopo 1B
Emilio Bonifacio, LF
Matt Wisler, RHP
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Harvey hits 97 with fastball in first inning and crowd here cheers. Velocity improved as Harvey consistently 95-96-97 in 1st inning.
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Matt Harvey is hitting 96-97 mph today, according to both the stadium and television radar guns. Slowly, his velocity continues to return.
I know that this (and the likely OD) is similar to how the lineup was structured last year when they went on the run, but I don't like Granderson hitting cleanup. I'd prefer to see him in the 2 spot between Reyes/Cespedes. His OBP is better served there and I think it puts him in a position where he will see better pitches.
In the cleanup spot I'd go with Bruce or Walker depending on pitching matchups (the other would hit 5). Cabrera and Duda could be some combo of 6/7 depending L/R preference.
About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny
Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.
TC also said that about Wheeler about a week before he opted for TJ. I worry that Matz is just not very durable.
I also prefer Granderson in the 2 hole. Duda is a much better hitter than Bruce so he should be hitting in front of him. Duda should be cleanup protecting Cespedes. Id use Walker to split up Duda and Bruce. Cabrera is a league average career hitter and should probably be 7th or 8th but if he keeps hitting I might consider hitting him ahead of Bruce also.
Considering he's not supposed to be 100% until May some time coming off the surgery he's had who wouldn't be optimistic after seeing what he did today?
Slider, curve, and change all working and a fastball topping at 96/97? Yes please.
Post surgery is Harvey on an innings count this year?
Maybe a minor one but so far they haven't really mentioned anything. I bet he could go 180-ish this year without much concern.
I really like the idea of Wheeler joining the rotation mid summer and going to a 6 man for a while. Harvey, Matz, deGrom, and Thor could all use a little extra rest in the dog days. Then somebody can join the pen (Wheeler?) for the stretch run/playoffs assuming everyone is pitching at a high level.
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Sounds like one option for Mets would be to carry Lugo initially in the bullpen, bumping him to rotation when the team needs fifth starter.
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Terry Collins also says Lagares' injury may open the door for Conforto to make the team. "If Juan's hurt, Mike's the best option we have."
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Michael Conforto would be on the team and an option in center field too should Juan Lagares (oblique) not be ready, per TC.
Young pitchers are going to make business decisions
His value is nothing now and if he were to miraculously make it all the way back he holds more value to the Mets during WS competing years than anything we might trade him for. Let him play out his contract, offer a QO, and call it a day. Same for everyone else as well. There's too much uncertainty with power pitching starting pitchers. Enjoy it while we can and keep the pipeline churning.
move anyone suggesting we add Niese (as some on twitter have) be banned from BBI lol
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Incredible that Niese landed us Walker, then allowed us to move on from Bastardo - his two biggest contributions to the team in the last several years.
The commentary from Collins yesterday is a little fishy to me. I almost wonder if they are trying to push him a bit. How hurt could he be if they went right back to letting him throw a day later?
Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen said Monday that Steven Matz is working on shortening his arm angle to put "less bang" on his troublesome left elbow.
Altering pitching mechanics to compensate for discomfort in a specific area is often how minor injuries turn into major injuries. Matz has been scratched from his final turn in the Grapefruit League rotation due to irritation in his left elbow, and he felt some lingering tightness Monday while throwing on flat ground from 70 feet. The young southpaw is ticketed for the 10-day disabled list to open the 2017 regular season. Seth Lugo is probably going to take his spot.
Source: David Lennon on TwitterMar 27 - 10:40 AM
for Matz. Every start he does make you're going to hold your breath hoping he gets through it and doesn't wind up on the DL or another TJ after the start.
I guess it's kind of gravy though in some regards because at one point I thought I read his career was almost over before it even really started with all the arm injuries in the minors and the difficult recovery.
Would be less than people were expecting but maybe we shouldn't be surprised. The facts re: Chapman were worse and more conclusive than Familia so a lesser suspension would make sense.
Would be less than people were expecting but maybe we shouldn't be surprised. The facts re: Chapman were worse and more conclusive than Familia so a lesser suspension would make sense.
Agree 100% and Ive said that since the beginning. If Chapman got 30, Familia should get less.
I would have gone with Lugo. Wheeler has absolutely no chance of opening the year in the rotation and still pitching into September let alone helping in the playoffs. I guess they will just accept that. I'd still go with Lugo and open Wheeler in the minors but I have no say lol
that Darling sort of questioned Matz's "toughness" and then the articles come out where Sandy apparently seemed frustrated with him.
It's a hard spot for him though no? Wouldn't you rather him "over-report" mild elbow soreness/tenderness and let the trainers/doctors make the decision on how to proceed rather than him try to pitch through it? Harvey tried to pitch through things for a while last year, despite there clearly being an issue, and he got rocked a bunch of times and neither him nor the Mets were better off for it.
I get that we need more innings from Matz, but I'm more than OK with him taking it a bit easy here in March if something didn't feel right.
that Darling sort of questioned Matz's "toughness" and then the articles come out where Sandy apparently seemed frustrated with him.
It's a hard spot for him though no? Wouldn't you rather him "over-report" mild elbow soreness/tenderness and let the trainers/doctors make the decision on how to proceed rather than him try to pitch through it? Harvey tried to pitch through things for a while last year, despite there clearly being an issue, and he got rocked a bunch of times and neither him nor the Mets were better off for it.
I get that we need more innings from Matz, but I'm more than OK with him taking it a bit easy here in March if something didn't feel right.
I'm not one to judge someone else's health. I have absolutely no clue regarding Matz. I was merely commenting on the fact that Darling sort of threw it out there and then Sandy (apparently, because I'm only reading the quotes in the paper) displayed some frustration. It just leads me to believe this is an ongoing theme. Not taking sides either way.
go with Lugo too since Wheeler innings limit could be a problem, but i guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
the organization was pissed at Montero. MRI's came back clean but he kept complaining that he was hurt. Who knows.
I don't see their situations as comparable
That's interesting. Mets brass was frustrated with Montero because his MRI's were clean but he was complaining of pain. The insinuation from Mets brass might be that they are frustrated with Matz because his MRI was clean but he was complaining of pain.
go with Lugo too since Wheeler innings limit could be a problem, but i guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
I agree, why start his innings now, put him in extended ST. But if they are leaning towards starting him now, then it throws that whole program out of the window. I'm not sure how they will limit him in that case. Make him just throw 5 innings or less in the minors once Matz is healthy?
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I expect it to all 'click' this season - which is really, really scary.
Ironic that a rookie is taking him under his wing to help mature him a bit.
go with Lugo too since Wheeler innings limit could be a problem, but i guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
I agree, why start his innings now, put him in extended ST. But if they are leaning towards starting him now, then it throws that whole program out of the window. I'm not sure how they will limit him in that case. Make him just throw 5 innings or less in the minors once Matz is healthy?
why not use up Wheeler's 125 to start the season? If he's healthy and effective why wait until July when he can pitch the end of the season. The Mets don't fact a team outside the NL East until May. Get off to a great start and set the tone for the season. Get Wheeler back and healthy in the mix for 2018 full season rotation.
Given Matz' status I'm fine with Wheeler in the rotation and use him up, then Matz and/or Lugo - depending on the other guys health.
In the playoffs ideally the rotation is Thor, deGrom, Harvey, Matz/Gsellman
with the other of Matz/Gsellmen being long-man in the pen.
like how the Mets (at least from the outside) seem like a pretty tight group and mostly pretty cool dudes. Who knows how true the rumors were under Omar of a clubhouse divide between the Latin players and the others (SSS of course but when I used to go to games really early I would see Ramon Castro holding court with quite a mix of guys). Even the top prospects seem like an overall class act/ good dudes... Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Rosario, Lugo. Smith sort of has that lazish/aloof rep but nothing dastardly. A few years back (when I had even more time to waste) I occasionally communicated with a few minor leaguers and you would once and a while hear about some real pieces of trash (Valdespin the most public one).
on twitter, he seems to be a good dude, from his twitter persona at least.
just check out his twitter page, all positive from what I've seen (and you probably already follow him DMM).
Ike Davis seemed like a dick, and don't forget Tony Bernazard, and guys like Kris Benson (though maybe that's more his batshit crazy wife), and I am sure there are more. The Real Dom Smith Twitter - ( New Window )
Only way I consider going with Wheeler early is if Matz is out long
term... As of now, it looks like Matz might miss one start or two tops. What would we do after he came back? Send Matz to AAA? Doesn't make much sense.
I'd rather not name names of guys who haven't already been outed but they had one reasonably high pick who had no problem being openly racist, another that (never had this verified) supposedly claimed a parent was ill, set up a fundraiser and turned out it was a fraud. On the flip side Lance McCullers before he was picked was really hoping to be a Met. I haven't spoken to him in years but extremely nice, personable kid. Would have been huge in NYC
on twitter, he seems to be a good dude, from his twitter persona at least.
just check out his twitter page, all positive from what I've seen (and you probably already follow him DMM).
Ike Davis seemed like a dick, and don't forget Tony Bernazard, and guys like Kris Benson (though maybe that's more his batshit crazy wife), and I am sure there are more. The Real Dom Smith Twitter - ( New Window )
I know for a fact ike Davis is still considered one of the biggest jerks to ever play for the cyclones. That team has a certain relationship with the fans and local writers (college kids etc) and he treated more than one very poorly. Never liked him after hearing that. He even looks smug
The classic case of a player who thought (and acted) like he was way better than he actually was.
Carried himself like that from day one. They have a kid named Dale Burdick, I think he went 40th round. Anyway they give him a lot more playing time and opportunities than his ability would suggest which has me believing he's likely an organizational favorite as a human being. I know they love Anthony Dimino for that reason
The classic case of a player who thought (and acted) like he was way better than he actually was.
Carried himself like that from day one. They have a kid named Dale Burdick, I think he went 40th round. Anyway they give him a lot more playing time and opportunities than his ability would suggest which has me believing he's likely an organizational favorite as a human being. I know they love Anthony Dimino for that reason
Report: Familia susp. likely less than 30 gms
Billy Witz of the New York Times reports that Jeurys Familia's domestic violence suspension is "almost certain" to be less than the 30 games Aroldis Chapman received.
Familia was arrested in November on a domestic abuse charge in New Jersey after police responded to a call and found Familia's wife, Bianca Rivas, with a scratch on her chest and a bruise on her right cheek. The charge was eventually dismissed. Most assumptions have been that Familia's suspension would likely fall right in line with Chapman's, but Witz writes that Rivas and Familia have cooperated with police and baseball investigators and Rivas has denied that her injuries came from an altercation with Familia. Familila met with Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred on Monday and a suspension is expected to be handed down this week. Addison Reed will handle closing duties for the Mets while Familia is away.
Source: New York TimesMar 27 - 9:12 PM
MLB self interests. It's really that simple. Familia meeting with MLB just days after the WBC ends to sort through this is all you need to know. They couldn't care less that is just days before the season starts which is crappy for the team and their planning.
Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
just a guess.
I also think part of it is "now or never" with Montero so instead of sending him back to LV to be cannon fodder roll the dice, give him his shot. if he fails he's basically done with the Mets.
Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
just a guess.
Its all about the 40 man spot IMO. Montero is on the 40 and Sewald isn't. They both had good springs so the tie goes to the guy with the spot. Can always add Sewald later if Montero struggles but we dont even know definitely what's happening with Familia yet so for now Sandy wants to keep some flexibility open.
was one of my few low lights this spring. Was further away than I expected. Wasn't missing bats (FULLY understand he's only 1 year from TJ) just looked like a guy who shouldn't even really be on our radars until mid 2018.
has a SHOT to be DeGrom Jr. Not saying he'll be that good but there are a lot of similarities. Plus pure athletes, raw when drafted, good height, late added velocity.
about Gsellman. When fellow major leaguers say your stuff is nasty, Mets probably have something with him. He's one of those came out of nowhere types ala deGrom.
was one of my few low lights this spring. Was further away than I expected. Wasn't missing bats (FULLY understand he's only 1 year from TJ) just looked like a guy who shouldn't even really be on our radars until mid 2018.
Saw him pitch for the first time this spring, reminds me of a taller Mejia with his delivery a little. Plus he (Molina) looks menacing on the mound.
has a SHOT to be DeGrom Jr. Not saying he'll be that good but there are a lot of similarities. Plus pure athletes, raw when drafted, good height, late added velocity.
A while back, I asked a long time scout which pitcher Gsellman reminds him of. Smirked, nodded and looked over at Darling. "That guy right there".
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Robert Gsellman's stuff is stupid good. Everything down, down, down. Rotation spot secure, he struck out the side in the first inning today.
up Gsellman on my fantasy team. Somehow that makes me a "homer" when I generally never have any Mets lol
Did the same thing Dan. Took him in the 6th round (each team keeps 6 guys, so closer to 12th round in normal draft). Other pitchers who went nearby were Wainwright, Nola, Gausman, Moore, Odorizzi. Compared to those guys, gotta be more bullish on Gsellman.
has a SHOT to be DeGrom Jr. Not saying he'll be that good but there are a lot of similarities. Plus pure athletes, raw when drafted, good height, late added velocity.
A while back, I asked a long time scout which pitcher Gsellman reminds him of. Smirked, nodded and looked over at Darling. "That guy right there".
He's the total package. Hopefully he stays healthy. High character, hard worker, outside of always being worried "later" velocity spike guys there the red flags just aren't there. Big fan (and I say that as someone who saw him when he was 89-91 with Savannah and though "meh")
up Gsellman on my fantasy team. Somehow that makes me a "homer" when I generally never have any Mets lol
Did the same thing Dan. Took him in the 6th round (each team keeps 6 guys, so closer to 12th round in normal draft). Other pitchers who went nearby were Wainwright, Nola, Gausman, Moore, Odorizzi. Compared to those guys, gotta be more bullish on Gsellman.
People groaned like it was a clear "Mets fan" pick. I have literally zero interest in over drafting a Met just to have a Met on my team. Sure it's fun to watch your own guys but I'm not taking a guy just for "fun". The next 5 SP taken were Joe Ross, Drew Smyly, Odorizzi, McHugh and Liriano.
I had Harvey and Thor in keeper leagues well before everyone else because of knowing my team. It pays off if you get it right. if you take them late-ish it's a gamble that's worth it.
Living in Boston I also grabbed Betts and Bogaerts a year before they were well known.
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Marcos Molina hit 96 MPH with his fastball in the 3rd inning.
I had Harvey and Thor in keeper leagues well before everyone else because of knowing my team. It pays off if you get it right. if you take them late-ish it's a gamble that's worth it.
Living in Boston I also grabbed Betts and Bogaerts a year before they were well known.
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Marcos Molina hit 96 MPH with his fastball in the 3rd inning.
Exactly. In keeper leagues, if you're a Met fan, you could've scooped up Thor, DeGrom and Familia (in points leauges) before anyone else. Even Daniel Murphy was a guy that Mets fans likely drafted higher than others last year.
Great news on Molina. He'll be a fun guy to track in the minors to see if he can get his career back on track this year.
once again has to do with Warthen and his slider IMO. Yes, Gsellman's velocity might have bloomed late since Savannah but he was hitting mid 90s by the time he was in Bing (I mentioned him as backend depth there) but he still wasn't on anyone's radar. Gsellman was mostly a sinkerballer though. Since he's worked with Viola/Warthen magically a slider is now a + pitch to team with his heavy sinking fastball and woila!! Instant stud and his Ks have spiked.
was throwing hard even at the very beginning of ST but he wasn't getting swings and misses and was getting beaten up pretty good. (5.87 era 7.2 innings 8 hits 3 walks 3 k's). He, Dunn and Szapucki are the 3 "dream on" arms they have (maybe Planck as well). I like Molina a whole lot, just was disappointed with the ST swing and miss. Luckily they aren't counting on him right now.
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Robert Gsellman just gave up a three-run homer to Matt Adams. Before that, he had given up three earned runs. Total. In five spring outings.
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Robert Gsellman just gave up a three-run homer to Matt Adams. Before that, he had given up three earned runs. Total. In five spring outings.
Looked like it was a hanging curveball from here. Great job by Adams.
I think when it comes to Keith Law it mostly boils down to a few things 1. He's snarky and a know-it-all. That's his personality which in itself can be off-putting. Even his writing on his other interests (board games, yes board games) and things culinary related can come off as pompous. That said I find him to be highly intelligent, very well informed and I appreciate his ability to disagree with the masses. I also like his style of writing. Both intelligent yet also easy to comprehend.
2. Fans of teams tend to overrate their prospects (often hilariously so) so when you get tons of questions like "I've read some scouts think Nimmo can be a Mike Trout type" he not only chooses to respond. He does so with some angst. Somehow there is a narrative from EVERY fan base that he hates their team.
I much prefer a critical writer than ones that are comically positive. Bernie Pleskoff is unreadable to me. Every write up swings way over the top positive. Most recently saying Montgomery (a solid but not huge talent in the Yankees system) was somewhere between David Price and Chris Sale. Previously indicated Dom Smith was a "can't miss star" cmon
is a large man, 6'4 255lbs according to baseball reference. Would be a shame if he wasn't a power hitter.
Somebody was just talking about his hard contact % again the other day. I think he still smashes the ball harder than anyone in baseball or at least he's close to the tippy top.
alwyas have.... I feel he's one of the best in the business. If I had to be critical of anything its that once he makes up his mind about something he tends to stick to it no matter what. Sometimes he can take years to turn around on guys. Honestly, that's really fine too though. He trusts his eye and I like a guy that will stick to his convictions even against the main stream which seems to just regurgitate off of each other.
I think when it comes to Keith Law it mostly boils down to a few things 1. He's snarky and a know-it-all. That's his personality which in itself can be off-putting. Even his writing on his other interests (board games, yes board games) and things culinary related can come off as pompous. That said I find him to be highly intelligent, very well informed and I appreciate his ability to disagree with the masses. I also like his style of writing. Both intelligent yet also easy to comprehend.
2. Fans of teams tend to overrate their prospects (often hilariously so) so when you get tons of questions like "I've read some scouts think Nimmo can be a Mike Trout type" he not only chooses to respond. He does so with some angst. Somehow there is a narrative from EVERY fan base that he hates their team.
I much prefer a critical writer than ones that are comically positive. Bernie Pleskoff is unreadable to me. Every write up swings way over the top positive. Most recently saying Montgomery (a solid but not huge talent in the Yankees system) was somewhere between David Price and Chris Sale. Previously indicated Dom Smith was a "can't miss star" cmon
Law IMO has tempered his snarkiness quite a bit in recent years. He used to be insufferable. I'd be embarrassed for him, being a public figure and being such a douche bag.
He's mellowed a lot.
But some topics definitely set him off. Like Tebow and Mets fans trolled him on it for a while on twitter. I think he realizes that now.
Mets think Lagares might be ready for start of season. Collins is hinting that he might carry 8 relievers to start (I mentioned they might do this}. In that case nobody off the 40 man would make the team. Bench would be TJ Rivera, Flores, Lagares, and R. Rivera. Ty Kelly and Conforto go to AAA.
Rotation and pen is likely decided after Matz makes his start this Thursday or Friday. Something tells me he gets cleared too. Lugo pitching back to back means there's a good chance he gets carried in the pen at the start of the season.
After today's game, Mets play an exhibition game on Friday and nothing until Opening Day on Monday. Lots of downtime for the team. April will be important with a ton of division games.
whispers at this point but supposedly Lugo has been told he's opening in AAA.
Does this really mean Wheeler is on the OD roster? I guess it depends on how they feel about Matz.
IF TRUE (again this is mostly whispers) it would mean either they are confident on Matz or will go with Wheeler. Some have suggested Wheeler would make the OD roster as something of a "gift" and then be sent to AAA.
don't care if the 51's win a single game but that's a really strange projected roster with zero OF depth, zero C depth and meh rotation. It's top talent surrounded by "huh"?
Doctors have assured Steven Matz that this is not a ligament injury. He didn't have an MRI. But the Mets will back off Matz for a few days.
Hopefully this is just a spring thing and he's ready to go on opening day.
Montero and Lugo have to be ready
Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.
In this day and age, with all the injuries to pitchers, every single ache and pain must freak them out. When in reality, I'm sure every pitcher will tell you their arm is sore after starts.
Jose Reyes, 3B
Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
Yoenis Cespedes, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
Neil Walker, 2B
Jay Bruce, RF
Lucas Duda, 1B
Kevin Plawecki, C
Matt Harvey, RHP
Atlanta Braves
Ender Inciarte, CF
Dansby Swanson, SS
Adonis Garcia, 3B
Tyler Flowers, C
Jace Peterson, 2B
Mel Rojas Jr., RF
Matt Tuiasosopo 1B
Emilio Bonifacio, LF
Matt Wisler, RHP
Harvey hits 97 with fastball in first inning and crowd here cheers. Velocity improved as Harvey consistently 95-96-97 in 1st inning.
Matt Harvey is hitting 96-97 mph today, according to both the stadium and television radar guns. Slowly, his velocity continues to return.
Harvey topped at 97 in the first inning. Walked Dansby Swanson but other than that located everything pretty well.
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In the cleanup spot I'd go with Bruce or Walker depending on pitching matchups (the other would hit 5). Cabrera and Duda could be some combo of 6/7 depending L/R preference.
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About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny
Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.
TC also said that about Wheeler about a week before he opted for TJ. I worry that Matz is just not very durable.
1.) Reyes
2.) Granderson
3.) Cespedes
4.) Duda
5.) Walker
6.) Bruce
7.) Cabrera
8.) TDA
Slider, curve, and change all working and a fastball topping at 96/97? Yes please.
Maybe a minor one but so far they haven't really mentioned anything. I bet he could go 180-ish this year without much concern.
I really like the idea of Wheeler joining the rotation mid summer and going to a 6 man for a while. Harvey, Matz, deGrom, and Thor could all use a little extra rest in the dog days. Then somebody can join the pen (Wheeler?) for the stretch run/playoffs assuming everyone is pitching at a high level.
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I don't expect him to have a long ML career as a starter but if he can give the Mets enough until Sazpucki is ready, that is all they really need.
Collins called Smoker a "heavy favorite" to stick in the bullpen based on his spring.
Terry all but indicated Gsellman in rotation. Planning in case Matz sidelined. Wheeler, Lugo options.
Collins mentioned Lugo for bullpen and possibility of Gsellman and Wheeler for rotation as Mets are careful with Matz.
Sounds like one option for Mets would be to carry Lugo initially in the bullpen, bumping him to rotation when the team needs fifth starter.
Terry Collins also says Lagares' injury may open the door for Conforto to make the team. "If Juan's hurt, Mike's the best option we have."
Michael Conforto would be on the team and an option in center field too should Juan Lagares (oblique) not be ready, per TC.
Thats why we have to trade Harvey before he hits free agency
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Incredible that Niese landed us Walker, then allowed us to move on from Bastardo - his two biggest contributions to the team in the last several years.
I'd give Albers a look personally.
Should be an interesting day of cuts today.
I know very strange. It sounds like MLB doesnt know what they are doing more or less.
Very true. Some of his injuries probably have led to his demise. How the heck did we get Walker for him and got out of Bastardo's contract?
Altering pitching mechanics to compensate for discomfort in a specific area is often how minor injuries turn into major injuries. Matz has been scratched from his final turn in the Grapefruit League rotation due to irritation in his left elbow, and he felt some lingering tightness Monday while throwing on flat ground from 70 feet. The young southpaw is ticketed for the 10-day disabled list to open the 2017 regular season. Seth Lugo is probably going to take his spot.
Source: David Lennon on TwitterMar 27 - 10:40 AM
Regardless of how it looks (or what eventually is said publicly) - there are no surprises...
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I guess it's kind of gravy though in some regards because at one point I thought I read his career was almost over before it even really started with all the arm injuries in the minors and the difficult recovery.
The Mets are right to send a message to Wheeler and Matz.
Would be less than people were expecting but maybe we shouldn't be surprised. The facts re: Chapman were worse and more conclusive than Familia so a lesser suspension would make sense.
Poor kid just can't put together a full season...
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Would be less than people were expecting but maybe we shouldn't be surprised. The facts re: Chapman were worse and more conclusive than Familia so a lesser suspension would make sense.
Agree 100% and Ive said that since the beginning. If Chapman got 30, Familia should get less.
Only hit Wheeler has allowed through four is to the opposing pitcher. Four scoreless almost entire Miami starting offense.
Lugo's done: 4.1 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 0 BB, 3 SO, 3 HR. 83 pitches.
Final lines for Mets candidates...
Lugo:
4.1 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 83 pitches
Wheeler:
5.0 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 70 pitches
TJ Rivera with a three-run homer off a lefty.
Mets brass is supposed to meet tomorrow to hammer out the roster. Wheeler has sure made a case for inclusion.
I thought he went into coaching.
Shecky refers to Wheeler as John Maine
1-2-3 inning for Paul Sewald who continues his great spring and could find himself in the Mets bullpen very soon.
Zack Wheeler: "I think today proved that I am ready." #Mets
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THAT John Maine?
Shecky refers to Wheeler as John Maine
Thought I was losing it lol
Mets brass was impressed by Wheeler. On thing they will discuss is whether he has the stamina right now for rotation.
It's a hard spot for him though no? Wouldn't you rather him "over-report" mild elbow soreness/tenderness and let the trainers/doctors make the decision on how to proceed rather than him try to pitch through it? Harvey tried to pitch through things for a while last year, despite there clearly being an issue, and he got rocked a bunch of times and neither him nor the Mets were better off for it.
I get that we need more innings from Matz, but I'm more than OK with him taking it a bit easy here in March if something didn't feel right.
I don't see their situations as comparable
Lugo said he had trouble downshifting from high intensity of WBC.
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that Darling sort of questioned Matz's "toughness" and then the articles come out where Sandy apparently seemed frustrated with him.
It's a hard spot for him though no? Wouldn't you rather him "over-report" mild elbow soreness/tenderness and let the trainers/doctors make the decision on how to proceed rather than him try to pitch through it? Harvey tried to pitch through things for a while last year, despite there clearly being an issue, and he got rocked a bunch of times and neither him nor the Mets were better off for it.
I get that we need more innings from Matz, but I'm more than OK with him taking it a bit easy here in March if something didn't feel right.
I'm not one to judge someone else's health. I have absolutely no clue regarding Matz. I was merely commenting on the fact that Darling sort of threw it out there and then Sandy (apparently, because I'm only reading the quotes in the paper) displayed some frustration. It just leads me to believe this is an ongoing theme. Not taking sides either way.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
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the organization was pissed at Montero. MRI's came back clean but he kept complaining that he was hurt. Who knows.
I don't see their situations as comparable
That's interesting. Mets brass was frustrated with Montero because his MRI's were clean but he was complaining of pain. The insinuation from Mets brass might be that they are frustrated with Matz because his MRI was clean but he was complaining of pain.
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go with Lugo too since Wheeler innings limit could be a problem, but i guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
I agree, why start his innings now, put him in extended ST. But if they are leaning towards starting him now, then it throws that whole program out of the window. I'm not sure how they will limit him in that case. Make him just throw 5 innings or less in the minors once Matz is healthy?
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I expect it to all 'click' this season - which is really, really scary.
Ironic that a rookie is taking him under his wing to help mature him a bit.
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go with Lugo too since Wheeler innings limit could be a problem, but i guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there.
But you are guaranteed not having Wheeler at the end of the season. It's as if his innings limit is 175 and maybe they push it to 200. His stated limit is 125. There is simply no way for him to go all season + playoffs with a limit anywhere near there (that doesn't even include his impact on the pen as he builds up innings). Do we know he can go a consistent 6 innings when he's yet to do so?
I agree, why start his innings now, put him in extended ST. But if they are leaning towards starting him now, then it throws that whole program out of the window. I'm not sure how they will limit him in that case. Make him just throw 5 innings or less in the minors once Matz is healthy?
why not use up Wheeler's 125 to start the season? If he's healthy and effective why wait until July when he can pitch the end of the season. The Mets don't fact a team outside the NL East until May. Get off to a great start and set the tone for the season. Get Wheeler back and healthy in the mix for 2018 full season rotation.
Given Matz' status I'm fine with Wheeler in the rotation and use him up, then Matz and/or Lugo - depending on the other guys health.
In the playoffs ideally the rotation is Thor, deGrom, Harvey, Matz/Gsellman
with the other of Matz/Gsellmen being long-man in the pen.
just check out his twitter page, all positive from what I've seen (and you probably already follow him DMM).
Ike Davis seemed like a dick, and don't forget Tony Bernazard, and guys like Kris Benson (though maybe that's more his batshit crazy wife), and I am sure there are more.
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I'd rather not name names of guys who haven't already been outed but they had one reasonably high pick who had no problem being openly racist, another that (never had this verified) supposedly claimed a parent was ill, set up a fundraiser and turned out it was a fraud. On the flip side Lance McCullers before he was picked was really hoping to be a Met. I haven't spoken to him in years but extremely nice, personable kid. Would have been huge in NYC
just check out his twitter page, all positive from what I've seen (and you probably already follow him DMM).
Ike Davis seemed like a dick, and don't forget Tony Bernazard, and guys like Kris Benson (though maybe that's more his batshit crazy wife), and I am sure there are more. The Real Dom Smith Twitter - ( New Window )
I know for a fact ike Davis is still considered one of the biggest jerks to ever play for the cyclones. That team has a certain relationship with the fans and local writers (college kids etc) and he treated more than one very poorly. Never liked him after hearing that. He even looks smug
Carried himself like that from day one. They have a kid named Dale Burdick, I think he went 40th round. Anyway they give him a lot more playing time and opportunities than his ability would suggest which has me believing he's likely an organizational favorite as a human being. I know they love Anthony Dimino for that reason
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The classic case of a player who thought (and acted) like he was way better than he actually was.
Carried himself like that from day one. They have a kid named Dale Burdick, I think he went 40th round. Anyway they give him a lot more playing time and opportunities than his ability would suggest which has me believing he's likely an organizational favorite as a human being. I know they love Anthony Dimino for that reason
Burdick has a dog he named Jeter. Fuck him lol
Wash.
(Yes, this would still be an excellent season)
Billy Witz of the New York Times reports that Jeurys Familia's domestic violence suspension is "almost certain" to be less than the 30 games Aroldis Chapman received.
Familia was arrested in November on a domestic abuse charge in New Jersey after police responded to a call and found Familia's wife, Bianca Rivas, with a scratch on her chest and a bruise on her right cheek. The charge was eventually dismissed. Most assumptions have been that Familia's suspension would likely fall right in line with Chapman's, but Witz writes that Rivas and Familia have cooperated with police and baseball investigators and Rivas has denied that her injuries came from an altercation with Familia. Familila met with Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred on Monday and a suspension is expected to be handed down this week. Addison Reed will handle closing duties for the Mets while Familia is away.
Source: New York TimesMar 27 - 9:12 PM
MLB self interests. It's really that simple. Familia meeting with MLB just days after the WBC ends to sort through this is all you need to know. They couldn't care less that is just days before the season starts which is crappy for the team and their planning.
Matz threw again today, including a few pitches from the rubber, and looked "pretty decent" according to the pitching coach.
They found inflammation. Early indication is he's opening on the 10 day DL.
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Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
just a guess.
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like Montero beat out Sewald
Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
just a guess.
I also think part of it is "now or never" with Montero so instead of sending him back to LV to be cannon fodder roll the dice, give him his shot. if he fails he's basically done with the Mets.
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like Montero beat out Sewald
Both had good springs. Maybe Montero stuck because he can start too? Better long man/spot starter option and they don't care anymore if he pitches regularly like Lugo or he's not a pure relief arm like Sewald.
just a guess.
Its all about the 40 man spot IMO. Montero is on the 40 and Sewald isn't. They both had good springs so the tie goes to the guy with the spot. Can always add Sewald later if Montero struggles but we dont even know definitely what's happening with Familia yet so for now Sandy wants to keep some flexibility open.
Gsellman struck out the side in the first.
Robert Gsellman's stuff is stupid good. Everything down, down, down. Rotation spot secure, he struck out the side in the first inning today.
in a minor league game
Marcos Molina with two strikeouts in a scoreless first inning.
Will be great to see Molina get back on track, I read some good things about his stuff before the TJ
Saw him pitch for the first time this spring, reminds me of a taller Mejia with his delivery a little. Plus he (Molina) looks menacing on the mound.
A while back, I asked a long time scout which pitcher Gsellman reminds him of. Smirked, nodded and looked over at Darling. "That guy right there".
Terry Collins has raved about Robert Gsellman's poise and stuff, which he said was among the best in the Mets rotation.
Robert Gsellman's stuff is stupid good. Everything down, down, down. Rotation spot secure, he struck out the side in the first inning today.
Did the same thing Dan. Took him in the 6th round (each team keeps 6 guys, so closer to 12th round in normal draft). Other pitchers who went nearby were Wainwright, Nola, Gausman, Moore, Odorizzi. Compared to those guys, gotta be more bullish on Gsellman.
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has a SHOT to be DeGrom Jr. Not saying he'll be that good but there are a lot of similarities. Plus pure athletes, raw when drafted, good height, late added velocity.
A while back, I asked a long time scout which pitcher Gsellman reminds him of. Smirked, nodded and looked over at Darling. "That guy right there".
He's the total package. Hopefully he stays healthy. High character, hard worker, outside of always being worried "later" velocity spike guys there the red flags just aren't there. Big fan (and I say that as someone who saw him when he was 89-91 with Savannah and though "meh")
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up Gsellman on my fantasy team. Somehow that makes me a "homer" when I generally never have any Mets lol
Did the same thing Dan. Took him in the 6th round (each team keeps 6 guys, so closer to 12th round in normal draft). Other pitchers who went nearby were Wainwright, Nola, Gausman, Moore, Odorizzi. Compared to those guys, gotta be more bullish on Gsellman.
People groaned like it was a clear "Mets fan" pick. I have literally zero interest in over drafting a Met just to have a Met on my team. Sure it's fun to watch your own guys but I'm not taking a guy just for "fun". The next 5 SP taken were Joe Ross, Drew Smyly, Odorizzi, McHugh and Liriano.
Living in Boston I also grabbed Betts and Bogaerts a year before they were well known.
Marcos Molina hit 96 MPH with his fastball in the 3rd inning.
Living in Boston I also grabbed Betts and Bogaerts a year before they were well known.
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Marcos Molina hit 96 MPH with his fastball in the 3rd inning.
Exactly. In keeper leagues, if you're a Met fan, you could've scooped up Thor, DeGrom and Familia (in points leauges) before anyone else. Even Daniel Murphy was a guy that Mets fans likely drafted higher than others last year.
Great news on Molina. He'll be a fun guy to track in the minors to see if he can get his career back on track this year.
Two strikeouts in the inning, last one on a nasty slider.
Hear Steve Matz feels good today, day after he threw. Positive sign. Everything's comin up aces for #mets rotation
Two strikeouts in the inning, last one on a nasty slider.
Is he talking about Molina or Gsellman? I through I read Mayer is at the minor league game.
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Two strikeouts in the inning, last one on a nasty slider.
Is he talking about Molina or Gsellman? I through I read Mayer is at the minor league game.
*thought*
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Two strikeouts in the inning, last one on a nasty slider.
Is he talking about Molina or Gsellman? I through I read Mayer is at the minor league game.
Yeah he's referring to Molina. Good catch.
Gsellman has thrown three scoreless innings. Two hits.
Holmes and Sborz are local kids (Holmes from Queens, Sborz is from BK)
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Marcos Molina was mostly 88-90 in the Mets' AA game but did strike out Adolis Garcia twice
I find him always pretty fair with Mets prospects.
Robert Gsellman just gave up a three-run homer to Matt Adams. Before that, he had given up three earned runs. Total. In five spring outings.
Robert Gsellman just gave up a three-run homer to Matt Adams. Before that, he had given up three earned runs. Total. In five spring outings.
Looked like it was a hanging curveball from here. Great job by Adams.
Lucas Duda keeps saying his back feels better than ever. Sure looked like it on that 3-run homer.
2. Fans of teams tend to overrate their prospects (often hilariously so) so when you get tons of questions like "I've read some scouts think Nimmo can be a Mike Trout type" he not only chooses to respond. He does so with some angst. Somehow there is a narrative from EVERY fan base that he hates their team.
I much prefer a critical writer than ones that are comically positive. Bernie Pleskoff is unreadable to me. Every write up swings way over the top positive. Most recently saying Montgomery (a solid but not huge talent in the Yankees system) was somewhere between David Price and Chris Sale. Previously indicated Dom Smith was a "can't miss star" cmon
Somebody was just talking about his hard contact % again the other day. I think he still smashes the ball harder than anyone in baseball or at least he's close to the tippy top.
2. Fans of teams tend to overrate their prospects (often hilariously so) so when you get tons of questions like "I've read some scouts think Nimmo can be a Mike Trout type" he not only chooses to respond. He does so with some angst. Somehow there is a narrative from EVERY fan base that he hates their team.
I much prefer a critical writer than ones that are comically positive. Bernie Pleskoff is unreadable to me. Every write up swings way over the top positive. Most recently saying Montgomery (a solid but not huge talent in the Yankees system) was somewhere between David Price and Chris Sale. Previously indicated Dom Smith was a "can't miss star" cmon
Law IMO has tempered his snarkiness quite a bit in recent years. He used to be insufferable. I'd be embarrassed for him, being a public figure and being such a douche bag.
He's mellowed a lot.
But some topics definitely set him off. Like Tebow and Mets fans trolled him on it for a while on twitter. I think he realizes that now.
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Gsellman likely finishes his day retiring eight straight. Three runs through six.
We also are damn near 100%. Sounds like even if Matz and Lagares dont make the opener they'll be back shortly after.
(knocks on wood)
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Plawecki optioned.
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Plawecki optioned.
HAAAAAAAAA
Rotation and pen is likely decided after Matz makes his start this Thursday or Friday. Something tells me he gets cleared too. Lugo pitching back to back means there's a good chance he gets carried in the pen at the start of the season.
Does this really mean Wheeler is on the OD roster? I guess it depends on how they feel about Matz.
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whispers at this point but supposedly Lugo has been told he's opening in AAA.
Does this really mean Wheeler is on the OD roster? I guess it depends on how they feel about Matz.
IF TRUE (again this is mostly whispers) it would mean either they are confident on Matz or will go with Wheeler. Some have suggested Wheeler would make the OD roster as something of a "gift" and then be sent to AAA.