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CMicks3110 : 3/26/2017 9:39 am
Start on Monday scratched. Elbow irritation. Mets downplay seriousness
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 9:42 am : link
Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Doctors have assured Steven Matz that this is not a ligament injury. He didn't have an MRI. But the Mets will back off Matz for a few days.
We have to send Lugo to AAA to start...  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 9:43 am : link
Got to have a good option in case Matz goes down or Harvey isn't ready.
Obviously not good that  
Metnut : 3/26/2017 9:49 am : link
this is happening already. With Harvey not "right" the Mets depth might be tested quickly.

Hopefully this is just a spring thing and he's ready to go on opening day.
Ron Darling said something  
Rflairr : 3/26/2017 10:25 am : link
About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny
Cant count on  
spike : 3/26/2017 10:58 am : link
Wheeler Matz and possibly Harvey.


Montero and Lugo have to be ready
RE: Ron Darling said something  
PhiPsi125 : 3/26/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13406993 Rflairr said:
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About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny


Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.

In this day and age, with all the injuries to pitchers, every single ache and pain must freak them out. When in reality, I'm sure every pitcher will tell you their arm is sore after starts.
settling = unsettling  
PhiPsi125 : 3/26/2017 11:33 am : link
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Has to be a hard thing  
Jim in Fairfax : 3/26/2017 11:44 am : link
The act of pitching is basically the act of injuring your arm over and over. Must be difficult to discern when it's the usual minor injury you recover from with rest and the beginning of a more serious injury.
Whoo hoo  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:12 pm : link
Harvey hitting 97!
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:13 pm : link
New York Mets

Jose Reyes, 3B
Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
Yoenis Cespedes, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
Neil Walker, 2B
Jay Bruce, RF
Lucas Duda, 1B
Kevin Plawecki, C
Matt Harvey, RHP
Atlanta Braves

Ender Inciarte, CF
Dansby Swanson, SS
Adonis Garcia, 3B
Tyler Flowers, C
Jace Peterson, 2B
Mel Rojas Jr., RF
Matt Tuiasosopo 1B
Emilio Bonifacio, LF
Matt Wisler, RHP
Harvey basically 95-97  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:14 pm : link
This entire first inning.
Yeah he basically sat at 96  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/26/2017 1:19 pm : link
and touched 97 a few times. Command seems off somewhat, but more curious to see if he can maintain that velocity for several innings.
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:27 pm : link
John Harper @NYDNHarper
Harvey hits 97 with fastball in first inning and crowd here cheers. Velocity improved as Harvey consistently 95-96-97 in 1st inning.
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:28 pm : link
Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Matt Harvey is hitting 96-97 mph today, according to both the stadium and television radar guns. Slowly, his velocity continues to return.
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:28 pm : link
Abbey Mastracco @AbbeyMastracco
Harvey topped at 97 in the first inning. Walked Dansby Swanson but other than that located everything pretty well.

4m
Great to see Harvey looking strong and Cabrera flashing leather  
Eric on Li : 3/26/2017 1:30 pm : link
I know that this (and the likely OD) is similar to how the lineup was structured last year when they went on the run, but I don't like Granderson hitting cleanup. I'd prefer to see him in the 2 spot between Reyes/Cespedes. His OBP is better served there and I think it puts him in a position where he will see better pitches.

In the cleanup spot I'd go with Bruce or Walker depending on pitching matchups (the other would hit 5). Cabrera and Duda could be some combo of 6/7 depending L/R preference.
RE: RE: Ron Darling said something  
csb : 3/26/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13407046 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13406993 Rflairr said:


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About Matz in an interview a while back on WFAN. He was wondering if Matz just has trouble pitching with normal pain associated with being a starting pitcher. He wasn't knocking him, just saying he has to learn how to pitch when your arm just feels a little funny



Darling said the same thing about Thor last season when Thor was battling arm soreness and getting tested. And Darling is likely correct. The only settling part of this is Matz' injury history. But we already knew this.



TC also said that about Wheeler about a week before he opted for TJ. I worry that Matz is just not very durable.
I hate this lineup construction  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:38 pm : link
I also prefer Granderson in the 2 hole. Duda is a much better hitter than Bruce so he should be hitting in front of him. Duda should be cleanup protecting Cespedes. Id use Walker to split up Duda and Bruce. Cabrera is a league average career hitter and should probably be 7th or 8th but if he keeps hitting I might consider hitting him ahead of Bruce also.

1.) Reyes
2.) Granderson
3.) Cespedes
4.) Duda
5.) Walker
6.) Bruce
7.) Cabrera
8.) TDA
Harvey throwing some nasty sliders  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 1:52 pm : link
and changeups also. Still topping around 96 in the 3rd.
Harvey can definitely win  
Dave on the UWS : 3/26/2017 2:20 pm : link
With this stuff and he will get better and stronger.
Is it me or does Matz  
Dave on the UWS : 3/26/2017 2:22 pm : link
whine a lot?
Reyes with a patented triple  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 2:31 pm : link
splitting the outfielders. Nice to see. :)
Cabrera follows Reyes with a single  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 2:32 pm : link
2-2. Still all starters in and still facing Wisler.
Man... Harvey looked great today...  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 2:44 pm : link
Considering he's not supposed to be 100% until May some time coming off the surgery he's had who wouldn't be optimistic after seeing what he did today?

Slider, curve, and change all working and a fastball topping at 96/97? Yes please.
Post surgery is Harvey on an innings count this year?  
Torrag : 3/26/2017 2:50 pm : link
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I posted a few weeks ago that  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/26/2017 2:57 pm : link
the Dark Knight version of Harvey might be gone forever. After today I think there is a decent chance he returns.
RE: Post surgery is Harvey on an innings count this year?  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13407183 Torrag said:
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Maybe a minor one but so far they haven't really mentioned anything. I bet he could go 180-ish this year without much concern.

I really like the idea of Wheeler joining the rotation mid summer and going to a 6 man for a while. Harvey, Matz, deGrom, and Thor could all use a little extra rest in the dog days. Then somebody can join the pen (Wheeler?) for the stretch run/playoffs assuming everyone is pitching at a high level.
Im betting Lugo is better than Colon right now  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 3:04 pm : link
and he's likely heading to Vegas to wait in reserve in case of an injury. Mets made the right decision letting Bartolo walk.
Interesting Granderson article  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 3:19 pm : link
and how he stays healthy.
Link - ( New Window )
So the Mets get great news (Harvey) and bad news (Matz)  
dpinzow : 3/26/2017 3:21 pm : link
in the same day. Harvey hitting 96-97 mph becomes a Cy Young contender barring injury
The Matz thing isn't that bad yet...  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 3:24 pm : link
He's going to make another start next week. It just got pushed back.
Smoker is sitting at 97 mph  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:07 pm : link
pitching the 9th. Could be his future role some day. Nasty today.
Matz could just be a 130 inning pitcher  
Vanzetti : 3/26/2017 4:27 pm : link
Which is fine as long as a bunch of those innings come in October.

I don't expect him to have a long ML career as a starter but if he can give the Mets enough until Sazpucki is ready, that is all they really need.
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:31 pm : link
Mike Puma ✔ @NYPost_Mets
Collins called Smoker a "heavy favorite" to stick in the bullpen based on his spring.


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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:31 pm : link
Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
Terry all but indicated Gsellman in rotation. Planning in case Matz sidelined. Wheeler, Lugo options.
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:32 pm : link
Mike Puma ✔ @NYPost_Mets
Collins mentioned Lugo for bullpen and possibility of Gsellman and Wheeler for rotation as Mets are careful with Matz.

Collins basically confirming Lugo is being considered for pen  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:33 pm : link
Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Sounds like one option for Mets would be to carry Lugo initially in the bullpen, bumping him to rotation when the team needs fifth starter.

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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:33 pm : link
Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
Terry Collins also says Lagares' injury may open the door for Conforto to make the team. "If Juan's hurt, Mike's the best option we have."
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ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 4:35 pm : link
James Wagner ✔ @ByJamesWagner
Michael Conforto would be on the team and an option in center field too should Juan Lagares (oblique) not be ready, per TC.
Young pitchers are going to make business decisions  
MetsAreBack : 3/26/2017 6:06 pm : link
Today more than they used to. Not a surprise when you think about how much money they will make once arb and free agent eligible.
RE: Young pitchers are going to make business decisions  
spike : 3/26/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13407314 MetsAreBack said:
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Today more than they used to. Not a surprise when you think about how much money they will make once arb and free agent eligible.


Thats why we have to trade Harvey before he hits free agency
Im not trading Harvey  
ZGiants98 : 3/26/2017 8:38 pm : link
His value is nothing now and if he were to miraculously make it all the way back he holds more value to the Mets during WS competing years than anything we might trade him for. Let him play out his contract, offer a QO, and call it a day. Same for everyone else as well. There's too much uncertainty with power pitching starting pitchers. Enjoy it while we can and keep the pipeline churning.

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DanMetroMan : 3/27/2017 9:03 am : link
move anyone suggesting we add Niese (as some on twitter have) be banned from BBI lol
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DanMetroMan : 3/27/2017 9:06 am : link
Love the story regarding Mike Chernoff's 6 year old son leaking word of Lindor extension talks
RE: I  
Shecky : 3/27/2017 9:22 am : link
In comment 13407576 DanMetroMan said:
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move anyone suggesting we add Niese (as some on twitter have) be banned from BBI lol


HAAAAA

Incredible that Niese landed us Walker, then allowed us to move on from Bastardo - his two biggest contributions to the team in the last several years.
Joe  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2017 9:24 am : link
Nathan opted out of his Nats deal, wouldn't shock me if we contacted him.
I don't want Niese back  
Metnut : 3/27/2017 9:40 am : link
here again, but he gave the Mets some really solid years on some bad teams. Sad that his arm gave out when the team finally got good again.
RE: Joe  
Shecky : 3/27/2017 9:46 am : link
In comment 13407602 DanMetroMan said:
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Nathan opted out of his Nats deal, wouldn't shock me if we contacted him.

I'd give Albers a look personally.
Should be an interesting day of cuts today.
We better be getting a Familia announcement soon  
ZGiants98 : 3/27/2017 10:31 am : link
Like today preferably.
Familia  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2017 10:44 am : link
100% deserves to be suspended but the way they have handled this is pathetic. Why punish the Mets? Why not give them a chance to prep?
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