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NFT: OK, look at this house I'm interested in.. thoughts?

EdS56 : 3/26/2017 5:10 pm
Lot is great, inside needs some work, not an open concept, but has good bones. My wife wanted me to ask my Giants bretheren....


Cheers!
Should I buy? - ( New Window )
It is a 40 year old house  
EdS56 : 3/26/2017 5:10 pm : link
Septic, well, but taken care of. New roof, water heater, although electric heat. Can't get everything.
electric heat...  
Torrag : 3/26/2017 5:12 pm : link
...and no info on the insulation. Run away. Don't walk...run.
Many listings I haven't seen the insulation  
EdS56 : 3/26/2017 5:16 pm : link
It's pretty rural so they didn't pipe in gas. They have three fireplaces. We did ask for utility bill info. Not ready to run away yet, but good info from you, thanks!
It's a dream  
mrvax : 3/26/2017 5:17 pm : link
home. Check the electric usage & rates.
What's not to like?  
section125 : 3/26/2017 5:24 pm : link
Surprised only 2450 sq ft on a 2 story. But looks very nice inside and out.

Good luck.
Look  
AcidTest : 3/26/2017 5:33 pm : link
at all that yard work. I hate yard work. Kitchen needs to be gutted. Appliances don't match. Heating and cooling bills will be astronomical, but you've probably already budgeted for that expense. Overall, very nice. It looks like a great place to raise a family. Good luck.
Nice curb appeal...  
EricJ : 3/26/2017 5:34 pm : link
and basic home layout inside. Not a fan of those kitchen cabinets and counter. They need a serious upgrade. Kitchen is also small for the overall square footage of the home. In fact, I dont see a kitchen table in there. Agree on the electric heat comments. Pool looks like it could be an expensive situation for you moving forward. From the photo it seems older with an older liner. The home itself on that corner lot is not positioned well. Your pool is so close to the property line and for me (a personal thing) I just do not like having so much property that is not usable in a corner lot like that. Really nice crown molding throughout the house.

My recommendation is to keep this listing in your back pocket but keep looking. Future re-sale may be compromised with the electric heat, small kitchen, pool situation and also having the laundry on the first floor when the bedrooms are on the 2nd.
I think it is good deal  
Vanzetti : 3/26/2017 5:39 pm : link
It is VA so heat is not that big deal.

Also, electric heat can actually save money if you room by room baseboards. Plus, heat pump is the most cost efficient for a climate like VA. To me, this is a non-issue.

Brick house that looks stately rather than vulgar like a lot of the new McMansions.

True, its 40 years old but I don't see any sag and it has nice old growth trees that again enhance the house's stature.

So I give it a huge thumbs up. I think you will be very happy in that house.
I'm  
AcidTest : 3/26/2017 5:43 pm : link
not a fan of septic systems, and well water, but others would know more.
Looks nice  
X : 3/26/2017 5:52 pm : link
You going to do any upgrades to any of the bathrooms and kitchen if you get it?

Make sure you have a good inspector and look closely at the sellers disclosure statement. I wouldn't buy a house that old, but that's just how I am.
Nice  
trueblueinpw : 3/26/2017 6:05 pm : link
Let me commend your wife for her suggestion to bring the matter to BBI. I bring all my more important decisions here and it's always served me well.

Tough to say about the house. It sure looks nice. Things like electric heat can be easily, if not cheaply, remedied. Don't know anything about the location and that's really the most importantant thing. Our buddies here on BBI will agree on this point, location is to real estate as the offensive line is to pro football. Can't hide a poor offensive line and you can't hide a poor house location.
A half million dollar house...  
fivehead : 3/26/2017 6:39 pm : link
after watching House Hunters on HGTV, I would guess that you are a 25 year old data entry clerk, and your wife is a 25 year old part time yoga instructor. You also have two dogs that you refer to as "your children". Am I close?

Also, that's nice looking house!
I don't know much about the technical aspects,  
Ira : 3/26/2017 6:43 pm : link
but it's a good looking house on a nice lot. If it has electric heat, you might look into a solar installation to save on the electric bill.
Here in VA  
EdS56 : 3/26/2017 6:43 pm : link
It's hard to get a home with a yard like that at
the price point without all electric. We are thinking on. It
Great house and lot, If you see this as your "forever" house then you  
Giants61 : 3/26/2017 7:11 pm : link
and your wife have many years to make upgrades and changes as you see fit without breaking the bank. Just hire a reputable, experienced home inspector pre-closing (no family or acquaintances). Don't be afraid of the age if the structure and building envelope are in good condition and if it was properly maintained
$500k for Gainesville?  
ImThatGuy : 3/26/2017 7:37 pm : link
Man how times have changed. I grew up in Fairfax County when everything out there was so desolate. Crazy to think how much home prices have shot up in that area. I guess I can somewhat understand the prices for inside the beltway but out in Gainesville ...
I have electric heat  
antdog24 : 3/26/2017 7:42 pm : link
it is nowhere as bad as everyone claims it is. You can control heat room by room. I don't pay a ton of money in the peak cold months. It's still cheaper than oil. It does help if you supplement with a pellet stove.
You can afford a 529k house  
therealmf : 3/26/2017 7:46 pm : link
so you must be doing well. I just find it hard to understand why you would need BBI's collective wisdom to decide. :)

Hire a contractor to inspect the home, not a 'home inspector' a real contractor. Someone you can trust, if possible. See what he says. For a couple hundred bucks it may be well be worth it.

Septic doesn't bother me if it is in good condition, again inspect it. Insist on an open pit inspection. Check with the town to see if they have plans for sewerage. I'm going through that now. Cost estimates around 25k. At least with septic you save the $800-1000 on yearly charges. In general, septic systems should last 30-40 years.

Well water also is no issue depending on your surroundings. Have it tested and if you buy the house ask you dentist about fluoride treatments for any kids.

Beautiful house, truly. One concern I see is no fence separating the house from the pool which is very close to the porch. You should check to see what safety regulations exist and check if they are present and acceptable to you and your wife. If you have kids/grandkids you may want to factor in the cost for any changes that are needed or desired.
Lord, sometimes I'm really jealous of what you can get houses for  
PhiPsi125 : 3/26/2017 8:03 pm : link
outside of Long Island. That house on Long Island is easily $1 million plus. And also $25 grand in taxes. Sigh.
great curb appeal  
markky : 3/26/2017 8:49 pm : link
bathrooms look updated.

you may eventually redo kitchen or just replace appliances, but doesn't look like you need to do that anytime soon.

looks like a gem.

if it's electric baseboard, what are the vents in the ceilings of the bedrooms? forced hot air? AC?
RE: Lord, sometimes I'm really jealous of what you can get houses for  
montanagiant : 3/26/2017 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13407388 PhiPsi125 said:
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outside of Long Island. That house on Long Island is easily $1 million plus. And also $25 grand in taxes. Sigh.

Funny thing is where I live That house linked is really pricey. You get midwest and 500K buys twice that house
A lot of house for the money, compared to where I live.  
Crispino : 3/26/2017 9:29 pm : link
Similar to Long Island comment, that house would be double the price in Bergen County, NJ, and cost you 25K in taxes. So to me, it looks like a great value.

Obviously, check into utilities issue, and especially into the septic. Replacing that can cost big money if its not in good shape. Have the inspector do a full inspection on it, open pit if possible. Or, find out if there is sewer available. When I bought my current home, it had septic, but it was a holdover after they put sewer in the neighborhood. The original owner didn't want to pay to connect. I gladly paid to have it connected after I bought.
Living in VA  
mattlawson : 3/26/2017 10:08 pm : link
I'm not freaked out about all electric. Mine only kicks in to gas under 40 degrees. Not much of the year all things considered. Get a good inspector. Really nice house
ok dude  
markky : 3/27/2017 5:05 am : link
i think the verdict is in

all it needs is a Giants flag out front
The house looks beautiful  
Montreal Man : 3/27/2017 5:11 am : link
But can I throw in my "personal" two cents.

I've lived a long time and in four different houses. WIth a family. And I found that we rarely spent time in the front. It's a beautiful lawn, but practically, what purpose does it serve to a family except as wonderful curb appeal. Where would you go to enjoy your family, picnic, have the kids sleep in a tent, etc ... chances are it's behind the house. That's where I would want my acreage. In a neighborhood like where the house is, do you see neighbors out front except to do yard work or ride around in their mower? You wouldn't have a barbecue out front -- I doubt if the neighborhood would tolerate that -- it disrupts the admitedly beauty of the area.

I realize this is my PERSONAL feeling about ANY house, not just this one. Ask yourself, HOW DO YOU LIVE your home life? I'm assuming you have kids. In the front of a house or the back? Anyway, that's just my observation on family living in general. For what it's worth. Whatever, good luck and be happy.
The house is beautiful  
buford : 3/27/2017 6:50 am : link
it's a bit dated, but looks like it was kept up very well. I would like a more open floor plan. But I Love colonials. The yard is also very nice. I would guess they have it professionally done. The best part is the little shed. You should buy it because then we would all know where you live and we can drop by :)
Great House  
TyreeHelmet : 3/27/2017 9:12 am : link
That place goes for more than twice that where I'm looking. With 25-30K in taxes.

Love the brick and the pool in the back and the big lot. As you said looks like it has nice bones. Good luck
RE: The house looks beautiful  
steve in ky : 3/27/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13407501 Montreal Man said:
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But can I throw in my "personal" two cents.

I've lived a long time and in four different houses. WIth a family. And I found that we rarely spent time in the front. It's a beautiful lawn, but practically, what purpose does it serve to a family except as wonderful curb appeal. Where would you go to enjoy your family, picnic, have the kids sleep in a tent, etc ... chances are it's behind the house. That's where I would want my acreage. In a neighborhood like where the house is, do you see neighbors out front except to do yard work or ride around in their mower? You wouldn't have a barbecue out front -- I doubt if the neighborhood would tolerate that -- it disrupts the admitedly beauty of the area.

I realize this is my PERSONAL feeling about ANY house, not just this one. Ask yourself, HOW DO YOU LIVE your home life? I'm assuming you have kids. In the front of a house or the back? Anyway, that's just my observation on family living in general. For what it's worth. Whatever, good luck and be happy.


I agree 100% that having a big back yard is awesome for families to enjoy.

However I think this house has that but they just didn't photograph it well. It's on a one acre lot and while yes it is a nice size that front yard isn't close to an acre by itself. You can see in one picture that off to the side from the outbuilding is what looks to be a large back yard as well. It's just off to the side of the pool area and not photographed properly by the listing agent.

huh...I've lived in VA most of my life and never heard of Gainesville  
Greg from LI : 3/27/2017 11:37 am : link
In Richmond that's probably a $350K or so house. NOVA is expensive as hell.
A great amount of land..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/27/2017 11:41 am : link
but the house seems pretty small to justify the price point. That house in the Charlotte market is probably $240K, and while I know real estate is more expensive in parts of Virginia, you are still pretty rural.

My biggest concerns would be with the septic and well situation, but if you're comfortable with the maintenance needed, then that's up for you to decide.
Original Windows  
GentleGiant : 3/27/2017 12:55 pm : link
is not a selling point, you need your inspector to do a blower test to see how much they leak then adjust your offer to account for the fact that they never upgraded
RE: ok dude  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/27/2017 1:12 pm : link
markky said:
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i think the verdict is in

all it needs is a Giants flag out front

...Which brings up the key point about the location: It's Redskins country. Why would anyone choose to associate with that trash? Nice house, though, and I think the size is fine for most families. Kids don't need huge bedrooms with en-suite baths.
A steal. A home that size across the street from me  
Stan in LA : 3/27/2017 1:15 pm : link
Sold for 2 Million+.
In my neighborhood  
Deej : 3/27/2017 1:22 pm : link
a home that size would sell for $50-100 million for just the land.
RE: A great amount of land..  
TyreeHelmet : 3/27/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13407822 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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but the house seems pretty small to justify the price point. That house in the Charlotte market is probably $240K, and while I know real estate is more expensive in parts of Virginia, you are still pretty rural.

My biggest concerns would be with the septic and well situation, but if you're comfortable with the maintenance needed, then that's up for you to decide.


I need to find a job in Charlotte....
Charlotte..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/27/2017 9:27 pm : link
is awesome if you move from many areas. It isn't so great if you live here and want to move to places with more expensive real estate.
I'm still a few years away from thinking about a home  
Mike from SI : 3/27/2017 11:53 pm : link
but it was interesting to read about all these considerations I never thought to care about. Yeesh. Good luck with your decision!
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