It has been 15 years since the Giants took a tight end in the first round of the NFL draft. No one needed to tell David Njoku the identity of that player.
“Of course, the great Jeremy Shockey, right?’’ Njoku said.
Right.
Njoku could be next in line, a strapping kid from Cedar Grove, N.J., who considers Shockey — a fellow product of the University of Miami — a friend and mentor.
“Yes, I’m very close with him,’’ Njoku told The Post. “We talk a lot.
“He told me it’s the place to be, the Giants, the fans are great, atmosphere is great, we both love ball. It would be home also. It would be huge.’’
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I'd be thrilled with the pick.
So do I. Let's hope he's there at 23.
same.
resse type of player
None of my kids has completed high school yet but I'm going to send them that list to start the shame game...
Time to Free Beckham!
Is this sarcasm?
There are prospects I'd prefer. Guys that are better football players right now but he's definitely in the conversation at #23.
"I hope I'm picked by 23 because every time I am passed over, I'm losing money".
Yeah that was my first reaction. Nice to hear Shockey put in a good word about the organization, he wasn't very happy back when he got traded
On that note, maybe we can package the 2nd rounder we're getting from the Saints for the Shockey trade to move up in round 1 to take this guy
This poster obviously has never seen Njoku play. Asinine statement
We're 0-3 in that category right now after Fiedorowicz, Fleener, and Ebron.
I understand the love for OJ Howard. I don't get Njoku.
There are prospects I'd prefer. Guys that are better football players right now but he's definitely in the conversation at #23.
Agreed. Love Njoku, but you cite valid concerns.
On that note, maybe we can package the 2nd rounder we're getting from the Saints for the Shockey trade to move up in round 1 to take this guy
LOL
I'd think the exact opposite might happen. Njoku/Moton round 1/2 combo would be fantastic.
That sounds really dumb. There are only a handful of guys eprth trading up for this year and Njoku is not even close to any of them. Id trade up for Garrett Allen Thomas Fournette thats it. And they would have to slip past 15th so that it doesnt cost more than a third. Njoku? At any cost? Gtfo
We're 0-3 in that category right now after Fiedorowicz, Fleener, and Ebron.
I understand the love for OJ Howard. I don't get Njoku.
I was all in for Eifert and Amaro. Now I'm all in for Engram.
Here are the 3 yr averages
OBJ will see 160 targets based upon his 10 per game
other WR 215
RB's 108
TE's 120
Eli has had a 68% completion rate to TE which gets you 81 catches for TE's.
Even Bennett was here he had 89 targets in 16 games. TE with lots of catches are not on offenses that are WR heavy.
Are you going to spend the 23rd pick in the draft on that type of player when you can find that 60 picks later
On that note, maybe we can package the 2nd rounder we're getting from the Saints for the Shockey trade to move up in round 1 to take this guy
Why not sign Cruz, trade him back to the Jets for their 2nd rounder and use that pick to move up in round 1?
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On that note, maybe we can package the 2nd rounder we're getting from the Saints for the Shockey trade to move up in round 1 to take this guy
Why not sign Cruz, trade him back to the Jets for their 2nd rounder and use that pick to move up in round 1?
You idiot! We need that pick to trade for Joe Thomas!
I thought he couldn't wait to get outta New York and away from Colonel Tom. And he did get a ring in New Orleans, right?
beat your kids... they have to respect, fear and love you. its a fine balance a little bit more of either and its chaos
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“He told me it’s the place to be, the Giants, the fans are great, atmosphere is great,
I thought he couldn't wait to get outta New York and away from Colonel Tom. And he did get a ring in New Orleans, right?
Shockey always loved NY, its Reese he didn't like.
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“He told me it’s the place to be, the Giants, the fans are great, atmosphere is great,
I thought he couldn't wait to get outta New York and away from Colonel Tom. And he did get a ring in New Orleans, right?
That's a more mature, sedated Shockey talking now..........
I've been a pro football fan for 59 years, I've seen very few play harder than him (Tom Coughlin knew that and loved that about him).
Shockey's problem here was his ego (not seen in NY since Babe Ruth). Ruth was a hell raisin', womanizing, hard drinkin' SOB who didn't give a rat's ass ...
And so was Shockey.
Two Big Targets Two Quick ones. Could help destroy the 2 deep zones we saw all year. And a true Redzone night mare.
There are prospects I'd prefer. Guys that are better football players right now but he's definitely in the conversation at #23.
Methinks he's our guy...like Eric Ebron was in 2014.
It was Beckham all along, not Ebron, evidenced by staff comments during the combine. Too many question marks for Njoku to be our first round pick.
Here are the 3 yr averages
OBJ will see 160 targets based upon his 10 per game
other WR 215
RB's 108
TE's 120
Eli has had a 68% completion rate to TE which gets you 81 catches for TE's.
Even Bennett was here he had 89 targets in 16 games. TE with lots of catches are not on offenses that are WR heavy.
Are you going to spend the 23rd pick in the draft on that type of player when you can find that 60 picks later
Nailed it. This is my thought. And I feel would be Jerrys thought (particularly as he rarely spends premium picks on TE. Only exception I can see if they feel this guy fell to them, and his grade blows other available players out of the water they can't pass it up. If it's close, I tend to think DL or OL are most likely.
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In an offense where the WR will see targets 1, 2 & 3, and the RB will see similar to TE, where are all his catches coming from - he is not going to be the day 1 starter - he cant block. He played at 235lbs
Here are the 3 yr averages
OBJ will see 160 targets based upon his 10 per game
other WR 215
RB's 108
TE's 120
Eli has had a 68% completion rate to TE which gets you 81 catches for TE's.
Even Bennett was here he had 89 targets in 16 games. TE with lots of catches are not on offenses that are WR heavy.
Are you going to spend the 23rd pick in the draft on that type of player when you can find that 60 picks later
Nailed it. This is my thought. And I feel would be Jerrys thought (particularly as he rarely spends premium picks on TE. Only exception I can see if they feel this guy fell to them, and his grade blows other available players out of the water they can't pass it up. If it's close, I tend to think DL or OL are most likely.
Though what I think a lot of fans either don't want to accept or don't understand is that a TE that gets a great grade in the eyes of the Giants front office is probably still not as valuable in their eyes as a CB or a pass rusher that gets the same grade. They're always going to lean towards certain positions over others unless it's a situation where there's just nothing there at one of their money positions. It's just their organizational philosophy.
In a fictional scenario where they get on the clock, and OJ Howard is sitting there right next to Myles Garrett, I think they take Garrett and worry about where he fits after the champagne dries off the war room carpet.
Methinks he's our guy...like Eric Ebron was in 2014.
It was Beckham all along, not Ebron, evidenced by staff comments during the combine. Too many question marks for Njoku to be our first round pick.
Ebron was taken before our pick. What you are saying may be true but there is no way to know, the lack of post-draft "We wanted Ebron but he was gone" comments notwithstanding.
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Methinks he's our guy...like Eric Ebron was in 2014.
It was Beckham all along, not Ebron, evidenced by staff comments during the combine. Too many question marks for Njoku to be our first round pick.
Ebron was taken before our pick. What you are saying may be true but there is no way to know, the lack of post-draft "We wanted Ebron but he was gone" comments notwithstanding.
I'm aware he was taken before our pick. Based on our comments after the Beckham, it doesn't sound like we had Ebron rated higher and that jibes with how our scouts (and Marc Ross) were absolutely gushing about Odell during the combine on Finding Giants.