NFT: Knicks Chat: 3/27

In comment 13408054 Deej said:

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In comment 13408042 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: In comment 13408014 Deej said: Quote: due did nothing on offense for long stretches. Barely moved. Im really not interested in him at this point. That's why he screams philly to me. Can play completely off the ball, provides spacing. Can heat up in a minute, but also cool down for stretches. He's a 2 on offense but a 1 on defense. He looked lost off-ball. I'd like to see one of his good games to see what people are seeing. I see a plus athlete who can hit shots if he takes them, even contested ones. But in a single elimination tournament I saw the most passive play I've ever seen out of a purported star player. He just stood around and waited. Didnt even really serve as much of a decoy.

Fox and Monk never seemed to be on the same page at UK. They both just took turns trying to create for themselves, never seemed to be in sync.

I think with NBA spacing he will flourish. He will score lots of points, not sure much else. Has the tools to be a good defender for his size.

he may lead his team in scoring but he's not really the #1 option.

But I hope you guys know, that the Knicks will win tonight. It might send some of you to orbit but it's going to happen.

In comment 13408136 Carl in CT said:

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But I hope you guys know, that the Knicks will win tonight. It might send some of you to orbit but it's going to happen.

hipefull melo is held out again

In comment 13407768 Jon in NYC said:

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In comment 13407724 Anakim said: Quote: 1) Fultz 2) Ball 3) Jackson 4) Tatum 5) Fox 6) Smith Jr. I'm also very fine with any of the six. There are years when any of them would have been the consensus no. 1 overall.

Knicks desperately need a PG, especially one that can play both ways, so to me I'd go Fultz, Ball, Fox. If those three gone then Jackson and Tatum next up. I'd be happy with any of those five, but estatic with one of the three PGs.

Melos playing tonight. Who's making the decision on if he plays? What a strange situation.

In comment 13408438 TyreeHelmet said:

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Melos playing tonight. Who's making the decision on if he plays? What a strange situation.

it is really hard to just sit out players when everyone knows you want to tank and with the whole resting thing it is just a weird decision...

will be interesting what his minutes are like tonight..

Dolan always looking out for the fans.

In comment 13408440 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 13408438 TyreeHelmet said: Quote: Melos playing tonight. Who's making the decision on if he plays? What a strange situation. it is really hard to just sit out players when everyone knows you want to tank and with the whole resting thing it is just a weird decision... will be interesting what his minutes are like tonight..

Phoenix and the Lakers aren't even trying to hide it. Sent the veterans home for the year. Why not just do the same with Melo? What if he gets a serious injury?

LA sat vets who, per advanced stats, were borderline rotation players anyway. I dont have a problem if the Knicks were to sit guys like that, even on mega contracts. The Suns are sitting a perfectly healthy Bledsoe, who is their best or 2nd best player. It's a disgrace.

Benching Melo would be one step worse -- benching a clear starter who is also somewhat of a draw. Maybe not at BBI, but there are a lot of paying ticket holders who will be upset if Melo is just sat while healthy.

In comment 13408457 Deej said:

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LA sat vets who, per advanced stats, were borderline rotation players anyway. I dont have a problem if the Knicks were to sit guys like that, even on mega contracts. The Suns are sitting a perfectly healthy Bledsoe, who is their best or 2nd best player. It's a disgrace. Benching Melo would be one step worse -- benching a clear starter who is also somewhat of a draw. Maybe not at BBI, but there are a lot of paying ticket holders who will be upset if Melo is just sat while healthy.

Also: no one goes to Suns games.

I'd like to do a mock trade

Drummond and a future first to Knicks
Noah and Lee and this years lottery pick to Pistons

Would either side consider it?

Next trade. Melo is 90% gone by draft this summer and will probably only except a trade to Lakers or Clippers

Melo to Lakers for Clarkson and future first

Knicks now have plenty of cap space
Contract offer to Aaron Gordon who's a restricted FA I believe

Starting Lineup 2017-2018

Drummond
KP
Gordon
Holiday
Clarkson

Bench
Kooz
Randle
Wily
Their two second round draft picks

let kp willy and oquinn man the center pisition, im not trading a top 5 pick for drummond

In comment 13408479 nygiants16 said:

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let kp willy and oquinn man the center pisition, im not trading a top 5 pick for drummond

Agreed.

I've really soured on drummond. He's not really the stout defender his athleticism would suggest (though still young). Are we sure he's tangibly better than Willy? Certainly not offensively.

In comment 13407724 Anakim said:

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1) Fultz 2) Ball 3) Jackson 4) Tatum 5) Fox 6) Smith Jr.

Those are the top 6 players, although I'd rate players 4-6...

4 - Smith
5 - Tatum
6 - Fox

Like plenty of others have said, I'd be happy with any of those 6 guys. As much as I love Jackson, I would have to take Fultz and Ball over him (if/when the Knicks win the lottery... hehe) simply because I need to get the most I can out of KP and Willy.

but I like Isaac for his defensive versatility, I'd give a slight edge to him.

an active Melo will lead the Knicks to a win tonight.

I don't care that KP isn't a dominant force in the low post. You get a PG who can just get him a little space to get a shot off and there's no way of contesting his jump shot.

I may live with a tankbusting win.

That's not his game. Never understoon anyone advocating that he needs to be in the post. It's a hilarious waste of god-given talent.

Dirk was the comp that made sense, and on his good nights, you can kind of see it. He's a shooter.

that couldn't alter his shot if they held up a folding chair. On those nights, he needs the strength to hold his position down low and a few simple post moves.

This team shouldn't win a game the rest of the season. I promise you, the garden will be sold out again next year.

Can we please end this charade?

Lol, let's he plays less in the second half.

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In comment 13408597 bceagle05 said:

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Yup, exactly.

F'ing morons.

as his replacement in the draft and decide to reward Phil with a huge fuck you 🖕

In comment 13408601 PhiPsi125 said:

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F'ing morons.

wtf do you want them to do? just bemch him for no reason?

you realize silver is jist waiting to start fining teams for sitting players for no reason..

No points this half for the Pistons.

In comment 13408604 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 13408601 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: F'ing morons. wtf do you want them to do? just bemch him for no reason? you realize silver is jist waiting to start fining teams for sitting players for no reason..

How about we start with not playing him for 40 minutes? How about you let him play (to appease Silver and the fans) while limiting his minutes? How about having some forward thinking about the future of this franchise.

Yeah, let's worry about fines. Check back with me when that actually happens. Meanwhile, the other team's that don't give a shot about fines with set up their future.

so yeah keep killing them when he has sat out 2 games in a row...

Where were you the past 2 games applaudimg them for sitting melo? oh yeah thats right you are just here to bitch..

In comment 13408614 nygiants16 said:

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so yeah keep killing them when he has sat out 2 games in a row... Where were you the past 2 games applaudimg them for sitting melo? oh yeah thats right you are just here to bitch..

Oh get bent...because you are such a beacon of the perfect fan on these threads. What do you give a shit whether I applaud the team for sitting him? Applaud the for making rational decisions al the time? No, I get it...kill me for not living my life on BBI every second of the day like you. Got it.

But you are right...allowing Melo to play almost the entirety of the first three quarters while having an amazing game is a much better plan.

Go Knicks?

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not caring aboit the future because they are playing melo and in actuatuality they sat him for 2 games, how can you say they dont care?

if knicks were losing this game and melo was playing horrible would you be bitching?

My point is if you are going to kill phil and hornacek and be fair and mention they sat him for 2 games, rather than coming on here oh fuck this guy and fuck that guy, brings nothing to the thread...

when phil trades melo for sog shit you will come on here and rip phil for trading melo for dog shit..

New BBI rule?

I'm not allowed to complain about Phil and Hornacek without also giving them praise? You think its entirely possible that I already think that but for some reason I need to say it because it makes you feel better?

And don't tell me what I will or will not say in the future. You have no idea what I think.

I'm sorry my once-in-a-blue-moon post bitching about Hornacek playing a hot Melo the entire first half in a meaningless game really burned your biscuits. Must have really ruined the thread for you this unique thought that didn't come up from anyone else on this or any other thread.

I'm sincerely sorry.

thank you now we can move on...

have a good night

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Pistons on a 9-0 run

In comment 13408631 nygiants16 said:

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thank you now we can move on... have a good night

love you ;)

In comment 13408640 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 13408631 nygiants16 said: Quote: thank you now we can move on... have a good night love you ;)

😘

Glad to see the Wall Street guys and their whores get to go home happy!

Knicks will drop to 6th BUT

sixers play brooklyn tomorrow so hopefully win there for them...

orlando also plays brooklyn this week..

so hopefully that will even it back up

Knicks fans are in a tough position. If it was KP and Willy going off and winning these games is one thing, having Melo and Rose combine for 50 isn't fun to watch on this point in the season.

You can't ever get mad at the players for not tanking though.

because we'll try our best to fuck this up. We're not even eliminated from the playoffs yet.

Just some random thoughts watching the Spurs destroy Cleveland.

- Deron Williams is awful. Not sure he helps them at all in the playoffs.

-JR Smith isn't the same since his injury. Needs more time to get his game back.

- I saw Derrick Williams exert more effort on defense tonight than he did his entire time with the Knicks. He still is not a good NBA player though.

- Patty Mills is going to get paid big this offseason. I want the Knicks to truly rebuild but if they are intent on signing a PG, I'll take Mills over Rose/Teague/Holiday.

- Gasol can still play. I can see him causing problems on the glass and down low offensively against GSW in limited spots.

-This "players only" broadcast on TNT is definitely different. Not really a fan so far but I could see it working with the right guys.

hopefully sacto can get a win

Team can't even tank right. KP! Melo and Rose all playing 35 minutes. Why are the Knicks so stupid as a franchise?

I don't think he's going to get significantly less than what Teague, hill, Holiday are gonna get. He's also not any younger, not much more pass first than rose, and not very good on defense.

In comment 13408674 PhilSimms15 said:

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Team can't even tank right. KP! Melo and Rose all playing 35 minutes. Why are the Knicks so stupid as a franchise?

coaches will never coach to lose and players will never play to lose, just never going to happen

In comment 13408680 nygiants16 said:

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coaches will never coach to lose and players will never play to lose, just never going to happen

this, plus this was a big game for Detroit and those it's competing with for a playoff spot.