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Typical Girardi garbage...I hope the team tanks and he and Cashman finally get fired!

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In comment 13410389 blue2 said:

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Typical Girardi garbage...I hope the team tanks and he and Cashman finally get fired!

Wade has no AAA time and if added will occupy a 40-man spot all season, while Kozma can be easily DFA'ed. I have my qualms with Girardi and with Cashman, but this is not an occasion for them.

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Joe Girardi confirms that the Yankees will not name a fifth starter. They will carry eight relievers until April 16.

MLB experience is more valuable. Kozma is garbage. The Yankees have no shot at winning this year so continue the transition to young players!

Didi will be back in a month anyway.

In comment 13410561 Greg from LI said:

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Didi will be back in a month anyway.

Yup and Cash commented in a recent interview they've screwed up a couple guys by rushing them. Mostly pitchers, but it's obvious they're trying to stay on plan with the kids

that the Yankees have a chance to win this year? Be rational and there is only one conclusion and that is this is another transitional year to a much younger and more competitive team going forward.

The Yankees do not have the starting pitching to compete. Even if the youngsters step up and succeed they won't have enough inning for October!

The Yankees need to dump as many veterans as possible unless they have a future and that number is very small. Play as many young players as they can bearing in mind that none get a full year of service time.

Kozma gives the Yankees NOTHING! He is a waste! Just typical crap that is unnecessary when building for the future!

Cashman and Girardi need to be FIRED!

Yes, I do think the future of this team is extremely bright!

What the hell do the Yankees' odds of winning anything have to do with rushing Tyler Wade to the majors when A)he's never played above AA B)he's not going to stay a fulltime shortstop anyway with Torres breathing down his neck and C)Kozma's only around as a glove on the bench anyway? Torreyes is going to be the starting SS in Didi's absence. Deviating from the development plan and burning one of his options so Wade can ride the pine until Didi returns in a month is simply stupid.

And you can bitch and moan about Cashman all you want, but he's the guy that restocked the farm system with all these great prospects in a rather short time, and Girardi's recent teams have consistently outperformed their pythag. You do a lot of loud whining while saying nothing.

he is horrible at everything a fan wants. He brings nothing to the organization that 10th grader couldn't do!

Wade deserves to be here...he earns this chance. I want to see what he can do. Torreyes and Kozma have no value to the next team...Wade might!

So let's hurry up and fire the manager and GM responsible for putting us in this situation!!

All joking aside, Girardi ain't perfect, but IMO he does a fine job managing the roster, especially the younger players and bullpen. A big part of managing now in the mostly post-steroids/greenies era is keeping a roster rested and fresh through the second half...which means using all 25 guys and giving the starters regular rest, as they can't rely on their now-banned supplements to stay strong through the season. That goes for all of baseball, not just the Yankees.

This team has over-achieved the last couple seasons, we really had no business competing for a playoff spot all season last year.

Cashman has made some bad moves (Ellsbury and Headley contracts, for starters), but he got the chance to go all in with the youth movement last season, and early returns show he played it like an ace. He'll get a long leash to see how the organization develops from here.

Neither of them are going anywhere, unless they want to.

He hit .259/.352/.349. Wanna see his MLB projections for this year?

PECOTA: .233/.299/.353 (.227 TAv)
Steamer: .224/.284/.315 (61 wRC+)
ZiPS: .234/.299/.316 (67 wRC+)

Torreyes, as a minor leaguer, hit .269/.327/.369 in AA and .258/.305/.374 in the Bronx. In other words, Wade at this point is unlikely to hit any more than Torreyes will. What's the big rush? Let Wade get his feet wet in Scranton and let him get some reps in the OF so he can be the supersub they're planning while Torres is the future at SS.

Let him continue to get regular ABs and pay a ton of positions for us down in AAA, and when he's really ready bring him up.

agree with Greg and mfsd. I know it can be frustrating . One point though I want to make.The Yanks have also shown in the past that they don't trust/have confidence in some of the kids. Yeah Sanchez came up and essentialy took the job away from McCann. However, he pretty much had to set records to do it. Let's not forget the B.S. with Steven Drew.Refsnyder never was given a chance to take over that position. The only reason why Girardi put Refsnyder in at the end of the season, was because Drew was not physically able to play. I am curious and hope Refsnyder gets traded and gets a chance to play everyday just to see what he can really do. Sometimes the Yanks base there lineup on payroll rather than performance. Mitchell,Warren and Severino all had better springs than CC. I understand it's spring training and CC being a veteran gets to just pitch into shape. However, come mid June and CC is pitching lousy you really think he will be removed from the rotation?

In comment 13410703 blue2 said:

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he is horrible at everything a fan wants. He brings nothing to the organization that 10th grader couldn't do! Wade deserves to be here...he earns this chance. I want to see what he can do. Torreyes and Kozma have no value to the next team...Wade might!

People like you are the reason the team spent a decade plus avoiding a real rebuild. Just absolutely no knowledge of how player development works.

now I am a bad fan for being realistic? Girardi is terrible at explaining why he does things. He gets praised for pen management but if you really look he loses winable games. He is a reactive manager when I prefer a proactive manager. I want to push action, be aggressive. I want to see young players play and not sit on the bench so a has been can continue. To me, Girardi has been a huge disappointment!

in 1-run games. Girardi is far from perfect but getting that awful roster over .500 was a small miracle.

but how many games did he give up on? I watched many games last year and saw plenty that they might have won had a different approach been implemented. Girardi is fine as long as he has the superior team but he's horrible when he doesn't. I would take twenty other managers over him.

In comment 13411064 blue2 said:

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Girardi is fine as long as he has the superior team but he's horrible when he doesn't.

Again, you're talking out of your ass. The Yankees have outperformed their pythag for most of the past several seasons. They've overachieved with a weak roster. You're given concrete examples and you respond with meaningless abstractions.

In comment 13411064 blue2 said:

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but how many games did he give up on? I watched many games last year and saw plenty that they might have won had a different approach been implemented. Girardi is fine as long as he has the superior team but he's horrible when he doesn't. I would take twenty other managers over him.

Just like Greg said above...Girardi has outperformed his Pythag in 6 of the 9 seasons he's been managing the club. But go on about him and needing superior teams to win.

But guess what - you could say that about pretty much any manager. He manages the pen well and he's kept the clubhouse mostly free of drama and tabloid fodder.

LMFAO...this makes someone a good manager? Give me a break! Girardi is not a good manager of the pen...frankly he is well below average. Girardi is not a leader. What he and Cashman are...night managers. Guys who can keep production going but never ask them to do more than that. If you do we get what we have now...mediocrety!

Based on what?

truly one of life's IQ tests.

If Girardi was fired tomorrow he'd have a manager's job the very next day.

The Yanks had no business competing the last two seasons. They aren't any good. Yet they did. I wonder why.

Everyone hates the baseball mgr. It's tiring.

you think he is good at managing the pen? Why?