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Giants wide receiver Brandon Marshall still raised one after speaking to NFL owners about building relationships with players at the league meetings in Arizona. Marshall said that he thinks Las Vegas is a great city, but that the things that gave it the nickname of Sin City could prove problematic for young players. “It can be a tough place for a player coming out of college,” Marshall said, via the Palm Beach Post. “It can be overwhelming for a young player.” Marshall had his own difficulties in his early years in the league and there’s a no shortage of other players with similar stories, so trouble can obviously be found in every city if a player is looking for it. The potential for it in Vegas may be more front and center, however, and that’s something the Raiders may be weighing when they start acquiring players to play for them in their new home. |
Hey, I think the vets could be overwhelmed, because no matter how 'old' they are football-wise, they're still relative kids as well, imv
The night life and laws there are quite a bit different than most cities of NFL teams.
There isn't a location where the temptation is higher. Drugs and prostitution will be thrown at these young millionaires at far higher rates than they would anywhere else. Not sure what the debate is.
It isn't called Sin City for nothing.
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city in the country for young millionaires, don't be naive
There isn't a location where the temptation is higher. Drugs and prostitution will be thrown at these young millionaires at far higher rates than they would anywhere else. Not sure what the debate is.
Hyperbole much?
You don't think the same temptations apply to Miami? There is a difference between going to Vegas for the weekend to get loaded and living there to make a living. Most people can compartmentalize the two. Others can't, but they would have that problem in any city (Josh Hamilton, Johnny Manziel)
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I'm merely stating my opinion.
I know two people that moved out there, they do well and have nothing to do with Vegas life (didn't miss that point at all). I just fail to see how it anyone can claim there isn't a heightened susceptibility for a 21 year old with more cash than he ever saw in his life then I guess we just won't agree on this.
I don't actually think tons of players are just going to move there and blow off practice to go gamble or sink into the drug scene blowing their chance at a pro career. But its going to have an affect on some players.
What about bars/clubs being open 24 hours?
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prostitution is still illegal in Clark county which is the whole Vegas area
What about bars/clubs being open 24 hours?
Aren't they open 24 hours in NYC?
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prostitution is still illegal in Clark county which is the whole Vegas area
What about bars/clubs being open 24 hours?
Aren't they open 24 hours in NYC?
I didn't know that
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prostitution is still illegal in Clark county which is the whole Vegas area
What about bars/clubs being open 24 hours?
Aren't they open 24 hours in NYC?
Bars close at 4am in NYC
But listen...you go to Chicago, NY, New Orleans, Miami, Atlanta, etc. & there's a huge nightlife too. It's not like those cities don't know how to have a good time either.
There are cameras everywhere in the casinos. How long do you think it would take for a security guy at a casino to sell info about the players?
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Seems it would be so simple.
There are cameras everywhere in the casinos. How long do you think it would take for a security guy at a casino to sell info about the players?
That's not the kind of thing I was thinking about. Let's take WR "Joe." I'll give this kid Joe all the credit he wants in a game. Can't make the payments? No problem, in the next game don't try quite as hard to catch that pass in the end zone. Or, maybe, I invite you to a party later where you find yourself incapacitated while some photos get snapped of your or someone else's appendage someplace other than where it should be. Worried they might find their way to your gal or momma? No worry, you've just developed a mysterious injury that keeps you out of the next game.
That's not the kind of thing I was thinking about. Let's take WR "Joe." I'll give this kid Joe all the credit he wants in a game. Can't make the payments? No problem, in the next game don't try quite as hard to catch that pass in the end zone. Or, maybe, I invite you to a party later where you find yourself incapacitated while some photos get snapped of your or someone else's appendage someplace other than where it should be. Worried they might find their way to your gal or momma? No worry, you've just developed a mysterious injury that keeps you out of the next game.
Plus, as we saw with the whole Giants Miami wide receiver trip, these guys are rich enough to jump on a plane for 24 hours of "fun" if they want to, pretty much any time.
The Raiders used to be the "Just win baby" team, the organization that didn't care how crazy you were or what you did on your own time -- as long as you'd win. They could be that team again in Las Vegas; it would fit. But that was in Oakland, which sure ain't Vegas. Maybe they'll have to flip and become a straight-arrow team, because the town will be too much for modern-day Ken Stablers and Lyle Alzados.
But I suspect that over the long run Vegas's numerous distractions and temptations are going to be more of an issue for the visiting teams than for the home team. I've even seen press reports that the other teams are worried about that.
The Raiders will probably be encouraged to live far from the strip, in the suburbs, which can be pretty boring -- just like a lot of young players live in the Jersey suburbs instead of in a Times Square tourist hotel. Guys will have to learn to limit their nights out and indulgences just like players do in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami and New Orleans.
Visiting teams, on the other hand, are in for 24 or 36 hours or something. Not enough time to get inured to the temptations, and enough time to get in trouble.
Will some gamble? Sure. But being fiscally irresponsible is the norm for NFL players. If it's not the high limit tables, it'll be expensive cars, jewelry, and harebrained investments.
Will some gamble? Sure. But being fiscally irresponsible is the norm for NFL players. If it's not the high limit tables, it'll be expensive cars, jewelry, and harebrained investments.
This.
It's going to be like foxes taking care of the chickens.
It's going to be like foxes taking care of the chickens.
That's exactly what I was getting at. The public's perception of the integrity of the game is paramount. As such, it would seem to make sense for the NFL to invest significant resources in policing the problem of players getting coerced. I was asking what specifically they do, and would it be more difficult in a city like Las Vegas given that, as you point out, gambling and everything that goes with it is the business?
Another question might be, could it have any effect upon officiating? I, and everyone else, have watched head-shaker games where the officiating has been horrendous. Can these guys be gotten to? How hard would it be to do it?
Again, are mobsters not allowed to pay people outside of the state of Nevada? I'm not saying point shaving isn't possible, I just don't see why perpetrators need to wait for a team to move to Las Vegas to do it.