still damn funny, but it loses a lot because of so many references to events that were current but not all that memorable now. Still damn funny, though.
Really liked it during its run, I think largely bc it was on during my college and early 20s years so probably related to the premise...but whenever I catch an episode now, i find it painfully annoying. Joey is still funny at times, but the rest of the characters are nails on a chalkboard to me now
Easy for me... That 70's show. WOW. That went from one of my favorite shows when it ran on TV in the 90's to one of the biggest turds played as reruns. Now if I were to watch that show in current day, every single character, their overused unfunny catch phrase just makes my blood boil. Even in How I Met Your Mother when they put Donna as Ted's old girlfriend Karen I'm just thinking no..no. The worst is the fucking character Fez. Just awful!
what was I thinking? I can't watch that trash anymore...even at 3 am with nothing else on.
"Lost in Space". Couldn't wait for it to come on each week. I've seen some reruns while channel surfing and can't believe how bad the acting was and how bad the special effects were. Half the props were made of cardboard and it's obvious the show was filmed in a desert and the monsters they come across are laughable. Dr. Smith was an asshole and if in real life, would have been executed to save on food and life supplies.
"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
"Lost in Space". Couldn't wait for it to come on each week. I've seen some reruns while channel surfing and can't believe how bad the acting was and how bad the special effects were. Half the props were made of cardboard and it's obvious the show was filmed in a desert and the monsters they come across are laughable. Dr. Smith was an asshole and if in real life, would have been executed to save on food and life supplies.
You beat me to it with "Lost in Space" and you articulated exactly what I was going to say. As a 7 or 8 year old kid during its run, I thought it was the absolute coolest thing ever, but in re-watching it I wonder just how stupid of a kid I must have been. It is mindlessly bad! Your comments about Doctor Smith are funny as hell and so true.
"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
"Lost in Space". Couldn't wait for it to come on each week. I've seen some reruns while channel surfing and can't believe how bad the acting was and how bad the special effects were. Half the props were made of cardboard and it's obvious the show was filmed in a desert and the monsters they come across are laughable. Dr. Smith was an asshole and if in real life, would have been executed to save on food and life supplies.
"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
Trying this again.....You beat me to it with "Lost in Space" and you articulated exactly what I was going to say. As a 7 or 8 year old kid during its run, I thought it was the absolute coolest thing ever, but in re-watching it I wonder just how stupid of a kid I must have been. It is mindlessly bad! Your comments about Doctor Smith are funny as hell and so true.
The Hulk and Batman, two of my favorites as a child, were disappointing when I starting rewatching with my kids. Those shows were the gold standard as a young-in.
I'm old enough that the shows I watched as a kid are not just old, Â
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
The first season or two are bearable, and then it fell off a cliff. Alda was awful.
Totally disagree on 70's Show. I didn't watch it at all when it was on TV, but I love it in reruns. Just a goofy show that was well written. If you just go with it, it's great.
And agree fast forward I simply can’t watch it now I tried recently have seen it on in the program guide but just cannot do it.
Others IMO, Mork & Mindy, Dukes of Hazzard, Chips, Love Boat seeing any of these shows I find myself wondering how in the hell could I watch this crap.
One of the more disturbing shows of my youth Slim Goodbody.
still damn funny, but it loses a lot because of so many references to events that were current but not all that memorable now. Still damn funny, though.
My wife and I started watching Seinfeld chronologically from the beginning, and I was actually surprised on how well it stood up. Other than the haircuts and clothes, of course!
I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I would usually skip class when I got up at 10 and watch the greatest three hour stretch in TV history with White Shadow, Magnum PI, then Chips and then go to the cafeteria for lunch at 1.
none of those shows stand up well anymore and they were all 10 - 15 years old when I watched them in college and thought they were great.
disagree on Simpsons, the new episodes aren't great, but the old ones, from like season 3 - 7 or 8 are gold.
Watch Flaming Moe's, Mr Plow, Lisa the Vegetarian, Homer's Enemy (grimey), Marge vs the Monorail (what about the tracks won't they break and bend? not on your life my hindu friend), Homer at Bat, the Tomacco episode (forget the actual name) or Homer the great (Stonecutters) - off the top of my head and tell me they haven't aged well.
RE: I'm old enough that the shows I watched as a kid are not just old, Â
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
Holy shit Marty... did you listen to "The Shadow" when you were kid like my grandfather? JK LOL
in The Flintstones where they're running through the "house" for what seems like a quarter mile, with the same vases, wall hangings, etc. passing by. Even as a kid I was fascinated by that! lol
(Joe Pesci voice - yeah, I dunno, I guess I'm a little fucked up.)
look great in each of their first few seasons, but for both, once they got to the latter half of their runs, they really were awful dumb.
Season 1 of Friends is pretty lame in retrospect..which is ironic given how huge it was that first year. But after that it still holds up IMO. Apparently it's very popular on Netflix with young people.
Months ago I was flipping around and ran into it. Started watching, and sadly, my reaction was "HOLY SHIT! Can you imagine a show like this today, updated but addressing the same subject matter?"
How could I have believed Lance the monkey could talk? That his sidekick Mata Hari, beautiful as she was, would be foolish enough to allow a monkey to driver her around town on some crazy investigative mission?
I don't think you can look at those cartoons in the same way Â
as some of these sitcoms. Sitcoms had been around for some time, the 80's sitcoms represented decades of evolution.
Weren't the Flintstones the first prime time animated series? And what else did they have for animated television back then, aside from Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry shorts?
still damn funny, but it loses a lot because of so many references to events that were current but not all that memorable now. Still damn funny, though.
Of course it didn't age well his referecens were for that generation but the comedy aspect of the show and the dialogue has aged very well. I'd have to disagree. I'm 28 and all my friends still watch it to this. There's a reason why it's aired as much as it is. Globally it's extremely popular
Friday night preview show ... the neighborhood kids would assemble at one house (Jeff Tripp's usually), then some of us would have a sleepover and get up early.
We thought it was the shit to get up on our own and watch the cartoons in his room while still in our sleeping bags ... on a maybe 19-inch black-and-white TV with the rabbit ears.
Even as a kid, I remember asking my Dad why it always seemed like they really didn't want to leave the island. Every week was another opportunity! And they stayed, or got left behind. lol
Early episodes of the Simpsons actually aged the best out of any show Ive watched, whenever they aired all those Simpsons episodes in a row in the summer of 2014 or 2015, I couldn't believe I forgot how amazing those first 10 year episodes were. Brilliantly written and stuff was still funny. Anything post 2000 I consider a completely different show from the classic 90s era.
Funny story a few months back my wife and I were talking and she stopped to think during the conversation before answering me. I asked if she asked Gazoo if it was the correct response she was looking for.
She looked at me like I had 3 heads and said who the F is Gazoo? I went through the whole Flintstones deal and she swore I was bullshitting her that a alien Martian was on the show.
I win
Add to that type of experience being married to someone who learned to speak English watching MTV and who has a limited knowledge of pop culture back then. lol Oh, the fun we have.
I still like Law & Order - but I like the older ones more before it became the bleeding heart show - too much social commentary in the most recent shows.
I guess Green Acres along with other slapstick comedies would be the shows I want nothing to do with that i used to watch when a kid.
only reason that show lasted was the charisma and talent of Michael J. Fox. It didn't have much else going for it...which is funny considering the show was developed as a vehicle for the Meredith Baxter IIRC.
Is in regards my wife has a photographic memory she does not forget anything. And I mean anything straight A student from the time she started school through high school, college and masters and finish top 5% on her CPA examine. She remembers what I had for dinner at a restaurant 23 years ago on the day, place and who we were with.
So for her not to recall Gazoo was a total win for me I don’t see many.
age of action TV shows (A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, Magnum, Hunter, Knight Rider) that didn't age well...although it's not like they were critically acclaimed when they originally aired.
I recently rewatched all of the Frank years of MASH and thought it held up well. Of course, I only ever saw it in re-run.
Also, whenever I catch a Seinfeld Im amazed at how well it holds up. It seems like it could be a hit show right now. And I wasnt even a Seinfeld nut during its first run.
I've tried to rewatch Cheers a few times and I cant get into it. Not sure if it is a holding up issue or not.
I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I also preferred Stevenson to Harry Morgan, but he was in MASH at the same time as when Larry Linville had to play the cartoon strawman Frank Burns. That was old then and is prehistoric now. Much preferred the interaction between Hawkeye and David Ogden Steir's Winchester.
What's next? Apple pie doesn't really taste good and Mom had her issues? Jesus.
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
I don't think its possible for anyone to mention caffeine pills anymore, without me breaking into "I'm So Excited, I'm So excited....I'm.. so ..Scaaareed"
We have to add The Cosby Show to this list, right? Â
I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I also preferred Stevenson to Harry Morgan, but he was in MASH at the same time as when Larry Linville had to play the cartoon strawman Frank Burns. That was old then and is prehistoric now. Much preferred the interaction between Hawkeye and David Ogden Steir's Winchester.
I can't remember a whole lot from decades ago when I used to watch M.A.S.H., but there was one episode with Winchester than absolutely made me fall over laughing. Winchester had gotten a letter from his sister and found out that she was going to marry an Italian man. Winchester went nuts over it and when confronted about his anger he replied, "You don't mate a thoroughbred horse with Tony-the-Pony". Hardest I ever laughed at a MASH episode.
Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
That was originally going to be speed, but the censors wouldn't allow it. The writers pretty much left her behavior the same as they'd originally written it, just changed what she was taking to caffeine pills. (I realize even for speed it was pretty over the top, but it was at least less ridiculous than for caffeine pills).
I always thought that was funny when TV shows did that. Like in Hey Arnold when they implied Helga's mother was a drunk by making "smoothies" and falling asleep in precarious spots such as closets and kitchen counters and neglecting her 8 year old daughter. Heavy stuff for a kids TV network.
I caught a "Bionic Woman" on TV and it was insufferable
that said
been binging on the Dick Van Dyke Show on Netflix
and I am blown away how WELL this show has aged
how sophisticated and damn funny it still is ..
I read that Carl Reiner made sure no contemporary at the time slang was used in the dialogue because he knew he had a classic and knew slang would make it age .
Cheers holds up really well. Just a well written show that was laugh out loud funny and had several memorable characters. One of the best sitcoms of all time...and probably the funniest of that era.
What's next? Apple pie doesn't really taste good and Mom had her issues? Jesus.
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
What's next? Apple pie doesn't really taste good and Mom had her issues? Jesus.
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
+1 for perspective
Fred and Wilma slept in separate beds. It's a classic show, just I agree that it did not age well, in theme or production, and I don't think it's perspective.
Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
I don't think its possible for anyone to mention caffeine pills anymore, without me breaking into "I'm So Excited, I'm So excited....I'm.. so ..Scaaareed"
Fred and Wilma slept in separate beds. It's a classic show, just I agree that it did not age well, in theme or production, and I don't think it's perspective.
Back in the late 70's I had a friend who was an excellent cartoonist. He graffitied larger than life Fred doing Betty & Barney doing Wilma cartoon on the side of Macy's Auto Center at the entrance to the South Shore Mall!
Thousands of folks had driven past it before it was removed.
Wish they had cellphone cameras then.
is too much great new tv right now (the americans, house of cards, homeland big little lies and planet earth season 2 are the only ones I have time for these days) for me to spend time re-watching shows from my youth!
I feel like The Sopranos has not aged well. I recently watched a few episodes and it seemed very dated, even compared to other shows from that time. It's still a really good show, it just seemed very dated to me.
Every single sitcom from the '90's , or any other era when.... Â
I didn't read the whole thread, but we watch Seinfeld ruruns almost every night. Friends, on the other hand, is unwatchable. I used to love it in college/post college though until it ended.
I've found the new seasons for both unbearable. The serialization of South Park has ruined the show and the new episodes of Family Guy are excruciating.
I've found the new seasons for both unbearable. The serialization of South Park has ruined the show and the new episodes of Family Guy are excruciating.
I didnt care for the PC season of south park, and I didnt see this year. But I think the thread is more about which shows dont withstand the test of watching them 5, 10, 25 years later, rather than which shows got worse as seasons progressed.
haven't seen it but pretty sure it wouldn't be very good, yet when I was younger I thought it was at least meh.
My wife and I actually saw an episode of Love Boat come on the other day and we laughed and agreed to watch it together. We made it just barely past the first commercial, laughing at how bad it was. After that we had to turn it off.
I imagine Fantasy Island would be the same.
On the other hand, Charlie's Angels would I'm sure, be just as good for me now as it was back then. Let's face it, I was really only into watching Farrah Fawcett anyway.
man oh man did I love this show when I was a kid. But now when I see it on one of the nostalgia channels it just looks SOOOOOO dated. Visually not just because of the bad '80s clothes and hair but because nobody cleaned up the original video. The colors are washed out and the picture is really grainy making it seem even more ancient. I'm pretty sure if you pick up the DVD collection it looks a lot better.
That and the shoddy editing and nonsensical stunts. One of my favorite WTF? KITT moments was when it jumped up and out of a car crusher at a 60 degree angle from a dead stop. The other was when KITT turbo boosted off a parking garage into the living room of an apartment on the 20th floor. Which just begged the question "how did they get back down? The freight elevator?"
RE: RE: I'm old enough that the shows I watched as a kid are not just old, Â
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
Holy shit Marty... did you listen to "The Shadow" when you were kid like my grandfather? JK LOL
Some of those shows weren't bad. Sirius Radio Classics plays a bunch of them. On a long drive, I sometimes tune into stuff like The Shadow, The Whistler, or Yours Truly Johnny Dollar.
I liked that too but even back in the day it seemed silly that they were always wildly spraying machine gun fire all over the place, often in public, yet nobody ever actually got shot
Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
That was originally going to be speed, but the censors wouldn't allow it. The writers pretty much left her behavior the same as they'd originally written it, just changed what she was taking to caffeine pills. (I realize even for speed it was pretty over the top, but it was at least less ridiculous than for caffeine pills).
I always thought that was funny when TV shows did that. Like in Hey Arnold when they implied Helga's mother was a drunk by making "smoothies" and falling asleep in precarious spots such as closets and kitchen counters and neglecting her 8 year old daughter. Heavy stuff for a kids TV network.
Or all the naughty references in Rocko's Modern Life
I liked that too but even back in the day it seemed silly that they were always wildly spraying machine gun fire all over the place, often in public, yet nobody ever actually got shot
and every episode had cars riding up a hidden ramp on 1 side and flipping over.
I never thought Saved By The Bell aged well even back then Â
I liked that too but even back in the day it seemed silly that they were always wildly spraying machine gun fire all over the place, often in public, yet nobody ever actually got shot
and every episode had cars riding up a hidden ramp on 1 side and flipping over.
And like the Dukes of Hazzard they always had to show the driver and passengers crawling out unharmed despite just being in a horrendous violent flip over crash probably not wearing seat belts lol
went downhill after Stevenson and Rogers left but caught an early episode awhile back and found it close to unwatchable. Alda didn't pull off the wacky but brilliant surgeon bit the way Sutherland did in the movie. That said, at least they were trying to be funny the first few years, by the end it was "serious" TV.
His legal situation aside, the show is just not funny.
But this talk of Cheers and Seinfeld are ridiculous. My kids are 16 and laugh their asses off at Seinfeld. It's hit or miss depending on the episode but most aren't timely.
Not there's anything wrong with it....George getting the golf ball from the whale...Mulva....Pez....junior mints...all just good humor.
Cheers is my second favorite comedy of all time next to All in the Family still funny to me.
Carol Burnett is still hysterical as is All in the family.
Was actually going to start a thread about Sons of Anrachy Â
Months ago I was flipping around and ran into it. Started watching, and sadly, my reaction was "HOLY SHIT! Can you imagine a show like this today, updated but addressing the same subject matter?"
Norman Leer, where are you, sir!
It's called South Park, and they do and say whatever they want!
So many of them to list but my biggest issue with watching old movies and old TV shows, is watching the outdated technology from the 70's, 80's and even the 90's.
Seeing David Banner use a payphone on Incredible Hulk, Zack Morris using a brick cell phone on Saved by the Bell or even the bionic limbs that Jamie Sommers and Steve Austin got on Bionic Woman\Six Million Dollar Man.
I don't even want to think about how crappy KITT looks like now on Knight Rider, which was one of my favorites!
I've found the new seasons for both unbearable. The serialization of South Park has ruined the show and the new episodes of Family Guy are excruciating.
We all have different senses of humor. I'd say the quality of both shows haven't dipped and in South Park's case it's better than it ever was.
This season, Family Guy has more misses than usual, but for a show that's been on nearly 20 years, it never hit a full decline like the Simpsons did after 8-9 seasons.
is a rough one for me to criticize because well, the episodes in the early 2000s were my favorites. I still think so, but it's not like I'm going to watch them over and over again. When I watch a South Park episode I understand what they were doing, the episodes, the references, and especially the jokes all made sense for the time. I just can't believe its been that long since those episodes aired. It's kind of cool to look back and see some of the old current events referenced that escaped my mind.
If I think of a time when SP started to go "down hill", not far too, since it was an already highly set bar by me, but it was the Britney episode in 2008 where I felt like they really missed on a current topic and it wasn't that funny. First time I ever felt like I was disappointed by a South Park episode, in that era, of course there was the "who is Cartman's father" early on but they made up for that with 200 and 2001, lol. The biggest blemish though to the show was in 2011 when they produced two back-to-back shit stinkers with Royal Pudding and the Funnybot ones. Cant believe two of the worst episodes of South Park ever created aired two weeks in a row.
As for the serialization stuff, it was cool at first I admit and people are always going to complain, but it's obvious they predicted "someone else" to win "some election" this past 2016. I think it just fell flat on its face this past season. I think they'll rebound.
I didn't read the whole thread, but we watch Seinfeld ruruns almost every night. Friends, on the other hand, is unwatchable. I used to love it in college/post college though until it ended.
I'll second this. Watched a bit of an episode and was trying to figure out why I ever watched.
Early Mash was great. Once Trapper left and Alda took over the whole show it was just bad. A 17 year long war.
Admittedly it was kind of tired by the end, but I enjoyed the Charles character, Harry Morgan and the development of relationships between the characters as they changed over the years.
I am exactly the demographic the show was targeted to though. I was in my early twenties when it started in the 70's (it was a kind of daring anti-war/commentary on Viet Nam show at the time) and early thirties when it went off the air.
There's a certain nostalgia effect at work in that the show reminds me of my youth. Enhanced, no doubt, buy the fact that I lived about a mile and a half down a dirt road from the M*A*S*H set in my early thirties during the last year they filmed the show.
Malibu Canyon State Park. Used to hike there on weekends. Could walk right up to and through the set at the time (which was just a bunch of empty tents with a helicopter pad for outdoor scenes).
what was I thinking? I can't watch that trash anymore...even at 3 am with nothing else on.
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"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
You beat me to it with "Lost in Space" and you articulated exactly what I was going to say. As a 7 or 8 year old kid during its run, I thought it was the absolute coolest thing ever, but in re-watching it I wonder just how stupid of a kid I must have been. It is mindlessly bad! Your comments about Doctor Smith are funny as hell and so true.
"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
"Dukes of Hazard" was a show I liked as a youngster, but when I see it now I can honestly say that the only real reason to watch it was waiting for Daisy Duke to make her appearance in her cutoff shorts. Stupid premise, but a nearly naked hottie kept it alive
Trying this again.....You beat me to it with "Lost in Space" and you articulated exactly what I was going to say. As a 7 or 8 year old kid during its run, I thought it was the absolute coolest thing ever, but in re-watching it I wonder just how stupid of a kid I must have been. It is mindlessly bad! Your comments about Doctor Smith are funny as hell and so true.
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
they get funnier as time passes
Totally disagree on 70's Show. I didn't watch it at all when it was on TV, but I love it in reruns. Just a goofy show that was well written. If you just go with it, it's great.
Others IMO, Mork & Mindy, Dukes of Hazzard, Chips, Love Boat seeing any of these shows I find myself wondering how in the hell could I watch this crap.
One of the more disturbing shows of my youth Slim Goodbody.
My wife and I started watching Seinfeld chronologically from the beginning, and I was actually surprised on how well it stood up. Other than the haircuts and clothes, of course!
I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I would usually skip class when I got up at 10 and watch the greatest three hour stretch in TV history with White Shadow, Magnum PI, then Chips and then go to the cafeteria for lunch at 1.
none of those shows stand up well anymore and they were all 10 - 15 years old when I watched them in college and thought they were great.
disagree on Simpsons, the new episodes aren't great, but the old ones, from like season 3 - 7 or 8 are gold.
Watch Flaming Moe's, Mr Plow, Lisa the Vegetarian, Homer's Enemy (grimey), Marge vs the Monorail (what about the tracks won't they break and bend? not on your life my hindu friend), Homer at Bat, the Tomacco episode (forget the actual name) or Homer the great (Stonecutters) - off the top of my head and tell me they haven't aged well.
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
Holy shit Marty... did you listen to "The Shadow" when you were kid like my grandfather? JK LOL
(Joe Pesci voice - yeah, I dunno, I guess I'm a little fucked up.)
Cheers looked like that at the time though - it seemed like they were going for the poorly lit bar look (and they nailed it!).
Season 1 of Friends is pretty lame in retrospect..which is ironic given how huge it was that first year. But after that it still holds up IMO. Apparently it's very popular on Netflix with young people.
they get funnier as time passes
Months ago I was flipping around and ran into it. Started watching, and sadly, my reaction was "HOLY SHIT! Can you imagine a show like this today, updated but addressing the same subject matter?"
Norman Leer, where are you, sir!
Weren't the Flintstones the first prime time animated series? And what else did they have for animated television back then, aside from Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry shorts?
Of course it didn't age well his referecens were for that generation but the comedy aspect of the show and the dialogue has aged very well. I'd have to disagree. I'm 28 and all my friends still watch it to this. There's a reason why it's aired as much as it is. Globally it's extremely popular
Oy!!! lol
So very awful. But we ate that shit up!!!
Friday night preview show ... the neighborhood kids would assemble at one house (Jeff Tripp's usually), then some of us would have a sleepover and get up early.
We thought it was the shit to get up on our own and watch the cartoons in his room while still in our sleeping bags ... on a maybe 19-inch black-and-white TV with the rabbit ears.
Damn. Simpler times. lol
Even as a kid, I remember asking my Dad why it always seemed like they really didn't want to leave the island. Every week was another opportunity! And they stayed, or got left behind. lol
She looked at me like I had 3 heads and said who the F is Gazoo? I went through the whole Flintstones deal and she swore I was bullshitting her that a alien Martian was on the show.
I win
I still like Law & Order - but I like the older ones more before it became the bleeding heart show - too much social commentary in the most recent shows.
I guess Green Acres along with other slapstick comedies would be the shows I want nothing to do with that i used to watch when a kid.
only reason that show lasted was the charisma and talent of Michael J. Fox. It didn't have much else going for it...which is funny considering the show was developed as a vehicle for the Meredith Baxter IIRC.
So for her not to recall Gazoo was a total win for me I don’t see many.
Also, whenever I catch a Seinfeld Im amazed at how well it holds up. It seems like it could be a hit show right now. And I wasnt even a Seinfeld nut during its first run.
I've tried to rewatch Cheers a few times and I cant get into it. Not sure if it is a holding up issue or not.
I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I also preferred Stevenson to Harry Morgan, but he was in MASH at the same time as when Larry Linville had to play the cartoon strawman Frank Burns. That was old then and is prehistoric now. Much preferred the interaction between Hawkeye and David Ogden Steir's Winchester.
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
I don't think its possible for anyone to mention caffeine pills anymore, without me breaking into "I'm So Excited, I'm So excited....I'm.. so ..Scaaareed"
How can anyone watch that show now without constantly thinking of the elephant in the room?
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I always thought MASH was overrated. The first season was outstanding, but it was noticeably worse after McLean Stevenson left. Not that he was great, but I thought his incompetence was a better foil for Hawkeye and Trapper than Col Potter.
I also preferred Stevenson to Harry Morgan, but he was in MASH at the same time as when Larry Linville had to play the cartoon strawman Frank Burns. That was old then and is prehistoric now. Much preferred the interaction between Hawkeye and David Ogden Steir's Winchester.
I can't remember a whole lot from decades ago when I used to watch M.A.S.H., but there was one episode with Winchester than absolutely made me fall over laughing. Winchester had gotten a letter from his sister and found out that she was going to marry an Italian man. Winchester went nuts over it and when confronted about his anger he replied, "You don't mate a thoroughbred horse with Tony-the-Pony". Hardest I ever laughed at a MASH episode.
That was originally going to be speed, but the censors wouldn't allow it. The writers pretty much left her behavior the same as they'd originally written it, just changed what she was taking to caffeine pills. (I realize even for speed it was pretty over the top, but it was at least less ridiculous than for caffeine pills).
Mostly because the younger sister's nose ballooned like a Marsha Brady football accident!
(Is that mean?)
It was a sitcom, I think it was rare for that period to not just have a death, but one like that.
What a turd. The special effects are something a child would make in a garage.
I agree "Lost in Space" was fun for a 5 year old, dumb by the time you're 10.
1. Rockford Files
2. Columbo
Very good shows.
It was a sitcom, I think it was rare for that period to not just have a death, but one like that.
not only that, but Mike when to a party where people were doing blow!
that said
been binging on the Dick Van Dyke Show on Netflix
and I am blown away how WELL this show has aged
how sophisticated and damn funny it still is ..
I read that Carl Reiner made sure no contemporary at the time slang was used in the dialogue because he knew he had a classic and knew slang would make it age .
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
+1 for perspective
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What's next? Apple pie doesn't really taste good and Mom had her issues? Jesus.
It's hard to believe but 1990 was over a quarter century ago. 1970 was nearly a half century ago. They are certainly going to look odd to viewers with modern tastes and production values. Personally, I get a kick out of office scenes where there is a dictating machine, a phone and no computer screen on the desk.
Not sure what would wear well over that time. Some of you are complaining about production values on shows that were produced before the advent of computers where all backgrounds had to be drawn by hand and props had to be fashioned by a prop department.
If you think in terms of themes, shows like the Flintstones (which was an animated version of Jackie Gleason's "Honeymooners") with their themes about the relationship between spouses and friends, actually wear quite well.
+1 for perspective
Fred and Wilma slept in separate beds. It's a classic show, just I agree that it did not age well, in theme or production, and I don't think it's perspective.
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Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
I don't think its possible for anyone to mention caffeine pills anymore, without me breaking into "I'm So Excited, I'm So excited....I'm.. so ..Scaaareed"
Me either:
Fred and Wilma slept in separate beds. It's a classic show, just I agree that it did not age well, in theme or production, and I don't think it's perspective.
Back in the late 70's I had a friend who was an excellent cartoonist. He graffitied larger than life Fred doing Betty & Barney doing Wilma cartoon on the side of Macy's Auto Center at the entrance to the South Shore Mall!
Thousands of folks had driven past it before it was removed.
Wish they had cellphone cameras then.
Link - ( New Window )
The only relevant song from Cheers is Albania, as sung by Coach (to the tune of When the Saints go Marching in):
Albania, Albania
You border on the Adriatic
Your land is mostly mountainous
And your chief export is chrome.
" Stay tuned for a very special episode of The Facts of Life."
Good one, though Zack and Kelly are still the best couple of the 90's
I didnt care for the PC season of south park, and I didnt see this year. But I think the thread is more about which shows dont withstand the test of watching them 5, 10, 25 years later, rather than which shows got worse as seasons progressed.
My wife and I actually saw an episode of Love Boat come on the other day and we laughed and agreed to watch it together. We made it just barely past the first commercial, laughing at how bad it was. After that we had to turn it off.
I imagine Fantasy Island would be the same.
On the other hand, Charlie's Angels would I'm sure, be just as good for me now as it was back then. Let's face it, I was really only into watching Farrah Fawcett anyway.
That and the shoddy editing and nonsensical stunts. One of my favorite WTF? KITT moments was when it jumped up and out of a car crusher at a 60 degree angle from a dead stop. The other was when KITT turbo boosted off a parking garage into the living room of an apartment on the 20th floor. Which just begged the question "how did they get back down? The freight elevator?"
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but dead and buried.
Anyone remember Art Linkletter, or Morey Amsterdam, Captain Midnight, Captain Video and his Video Rangers, or Kukla Fran and Ollie? Oh yes, Milton Berle and Howdy Doody. They were all done live. They were wonderful, everybody loved them, but they would be pathetic to today's viewers.
Holy shit Marty... did you listen to "The Shadow" when you were kid like my grandfather? JK LOL
Some of those shows weren't bad. Sirius Radio Classics plays a bunch of them. On a long drive, I sometimes tune into stuff like The Shadow, The Whistler, or Yours Truly Johnny Dollar.
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Remember when Jesse was taking caffeine pills to make sure she stayed up and studied? Everyone was concerned as if she was taking heroin.
That was originally going to be speed, but the censors wouldn't allow it. The writers pretty much left her behavior the same as they'd originally written it, just changed what she was taking to caffeine pills. (I realize even for speed it was pretty over the top, but it was at least less ridiculous than for caffeine pills).
I guess marijuana was ok with Johnny Dakota
Or all the naughty references in Rocko's Modern Life
and every episode had cars riding up a hidden ramp on 1 side and flipping over.
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I liked that too but even back in the day it seemed silly that they were always wildly spraying machine gun fire all over the place, often in public, yet nobody ever actually got shot
and every episode had cars riding up a hidden ramp on 1 side and flipping over.
And like the Dukes of Hazzard they always had to show the driver and passengers crawling out unharmed despite just being in a horrendous violent flip over crash probably not wearing seat belts lol
Bob Golic and his ridiculous mullet.
Bob Golic and his ridiculous mullet.
It was very tame. That's for sure. Golic was so out of place on that show.
But Zack and Kelly > All
His legal situation aside, the show is just not funny.
But this talk of Cheers and Seinfeld are ridiculous. My kids are 16 and laugh their asses off at Seinfeld. It's hit or miss depending on the episode but most aren't timely.
Not there's anything wrong with it....George getting the golf ball from the whale...Mulva....Pez....junior mints...all just good humor.
Cheers is my second favorite comedy of all time next to All in the Family still funny to me.
Carol Burnett is still hysterical as is All in the family.
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how about a good ole All in the Family"?
they get funnier as time passes
Months ago I was flipping around and ran into it. Started watching, and sadly, my reaction was "HOLY SHIT! Can you imagine a show like this today, updated but addressing the same subject matter?"
Norman Leer, where are you, sir!
It's called South Park, and they do and say whatever they want!
Seeing David Banner use a payphone on Incredible Hulk, Zack Morris using a brick cell phone on Saved by the Bell or even the bionic limbs that Jamie Sommers and Steve Austin got on Bionic Woman\Six Million Dollar Man.
I don't even want to think about how crappy KITT looks like now on Knight Rider, which was one of my favorites!
We all have different senses of humor. I'd say the quality of both shows haven't dipped and in South Park's case it's better than it ever was.
This season, Family Guy has more misses than usual, but for a show that's been on nearly 20 years, it never hit a full decline like the Simpsons did after 8-9 seasons.
Bob Golic and his ridiculous mullet.
Don't forget this guest appearance from Saved by the Bell:
Hunter
Chase
Baretta
The Greatest American Hero
City of Angels
The A-Team
Wiseguy
Hardcastle and McCormick
21 Jump Street
The Commish
Silk Stalkings
If I think of a time when SP started to go "down hill", not far too, since it was an already highly set bar by me, but it was the Britney episode in 2008 where I felt like they really missed on a current topic and it wasn't that funny. First time I ever felt like I was disappointed by a South Park episode, in that era, of course there was the "who is Cartman's father" early on but they made up for that with 200 and 2001, lol. The biggest blemish though to the show was in 2011 when they produced two back-to-back shit stinkers with Royal Pudding and the Funnybot ones. Cant believe two of the worst episodes of South Park ever created aired two weeks in a row.
As for the serialization stuff, it was cool at first I admit and people are always going to complain, but it's obvious they predicted "someone else" to win "some election" this past 2016. I think it just fell flat on its face this past season. I think they'll rebound.
I'll second this. Watched a bit of an episode and was trying to figure out why I ever watched.
Early Mash was great. Once Trapper left and Alda took over the whole show it was just bad. A 17 year long war.
I am exactly the demographic the show was targeted to though. I was in my early twenties when it started in the 70's (it was a kind of daring anti-war/commentary on Viet Nam show at the time) and early thirties when it went off the air.
There's a certain nostalgia effect at work in that the show reminds me of my youth. Enhanced, no doubt, buy the fact that I lived about a mile and a half down a dirt road from the M*A*S*H set in my early thirties during the last year they filmed the show.
Malibu Canyon State Park. Used to hike there on weekends. Could walk right up to and through the set at the time (which was just a bunch of empty tents with a helicopter pad for outdoor scenes).