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Michael Irvin investigated for sexual assault

Big Blue '56 : 3/29/2017 9:32 am
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A 27-year-old woman told police she and Irvin were out at a bar and went back to his hotel together. She says she began to feel sick in his room, remembers fighting him off, and woke up as he was checking out. She called 911 at 7:30 a.m. on March 21, said she feared she was drugged and raped, and went to a medical lab for a swab and blood test, according to TMZ.

Irvin’s lawyer, Larry Friedman, is denying the charge.

“The allegations are completely false,” Friedman told TMZ. “In the few hours since we’ve learned about them we’ve already discovered many red flags about this young woman’s background and the allegations she made against Michael. Even the complaint that she made specifically says she does not recall the events that took place. She was very drunk that night. Nothing happened and there was no assault.”

This is at least the third time Irvin has been named in a sexual assault case, but he has never been criminally charged. In 1997 he was falsely accused by a woman named Nina Shahravan, who admitted she lied and was sentenced to 90 days in jail for misdemeanor perjury in connection with the incident. In 2007 he was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in a hotel room. Prosecutors did not press charges, she sued him in civil court, he countersued for defamation, and those lawsuits resulted in a confidential settlement.




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Seems  
Joeguido : 3/29/2017 9:37 am : link
like every tens years a new charge
RE: Seems  
mrvax : 3/29/2017 9:41 am : link
In comment 13410340 Joeguido said:
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like every tens years a new charge


I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if Bill Cosby has some sort of sick training camp out there ...
I hope this turns out  
joeinpa : 3/29/2017 9:45 am : link
To be another false allegation.
he cannot possibly be that stupid at this stage of his life  
gtt350 : 3/29/2017 9:46 am : link
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Michael Irvin  
bradshaw44 : 3/29/2017 9:53 am : link
Raping you on the sevens? That is a random pattern.
Cowboys gonna be Cowboys  
The_Boss : 3/29/2017 9:57 am : link
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I feel strange saying this because....  
Mike From Brielle : 3/29/2017 10:33 am : link
I was never a fan of his and when he was playing I think I legitimately hated him but I also hope this is not true. I had kind'a come around to the idea that he was trying to change his life around and was trying to become more like a man that he wanted to be known as. Even if that didn't erase all the things that he may or may not have been.
This is technically his 3rd accusation  
LatHarv83 : 3/29/2017 10:34 am : link
And you are going to hear that reported throughout this. No need to artificially inflate it though when the first accuser admitted lying and served 90 days in jail for it. We are in reality at 2, which is still 2 more than you ever want to see. So let's recap

Accuser #1= bullshit
Accuser #2= filed a civil suit, Irvin countersued, case settled
Accuser #3= we will see I guess

Everyone is going to just roast him because fuck the cowboys, and I'm with you if true. I'd like to see them chop his dick off if true. But accusations aren't charges. I guess we will see. The shear volume is unsettling for sure though
Isn't Irvin married? Would he be risking a nasty divorce?  
Marty in Albany : 3/29/2017 10:40 am : link
Did Tiger teach us nothing?!!
Need to read more before  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/29/2017 10:41 am : link
weighing in, but the potential drugging sounds like a play out of the Darren Sharper playbook.
RE: Need to read more before  
Big Blue '56 : 3/29/2017 10:48 am : link
In comment 13410421 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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weighing in, but the potential drugging sounds like a play out of the Darren Sharper playbook.


Or Cosby's?
I refuse to believe this  
djm : 3/29/2017 10:51 am : link
I pray it isn't true. I like Irvin a lot.
Sounds like  
Joey in VA : 3/29/2017 10:51 am : link
Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?
RE: RE: Need to read more before  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/29/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13410436 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 13410421 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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weighing in, but the potential drugging sounds like a play out of the Darren Sharper playbook.



Or Cosby's?


Cosby's too.
I thought he was tight with Cris Carter  
glowrider : 3/29/2017 11:02 am : link
Where were his fall guys?
Maybe Mike  
Carson53 : 3/29/2017 11:04 am : link
was on the crack pipe. I was always amazed many years ago,
how Irvin avoided prison time with all the crap he pulled.
This has nothing to do with this situation, but just an observation from the past.
A couple people mentioned Sharper, I couldn't
believe that guy was capable of that, but you never know.
That was bizarre to say the least.
Let's see what transpires with Mike.
RE: Sounds like  
schabadoo : 3/29/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13410439 Joey in VA said:
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Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?


said she feared she was drugged and raped, and went to a medical lab for a swab and blood test
RE: Sounds like  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 3/29/2017 11:07 am : link
In comment 13410439 Joey in VA said:
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Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?


These guys are targets. Point blank. She could have drugged herself. Is Irvin a choir boy. Hardly.

But if you are a real scheming piece of shit, you could certainly do this:

1) Have consensual sex with Irvin. Save a little baby batter for later.
2) Eat a roofie that you gave yourself. With Irvin's and Sharper's history, it would look really bad in court.
3) Make a claim that you were assaulted. Punch yourself in the face a couple times, scratch Irvin during the consensual sex and now you have DNA x 2.
4) Tear a piece of clothing and voila! It becomes an instant 'add water and mix' civil suit with Irvin likely to go to jail.

Yes, I watch waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much Law and Order. but crazier shit has happened.
RE: Isn't Irvin married? Would he be risking a nasty divorce?  
Carson53 : 3/29/2017 11:07 am : link
In comment 13410419 Marty in Albany said:
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Did Tiger teach us nothing?!!
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Tiger's situation taught us, don't give your wife a 9 iron.
Tiger and Chris Webber, two of the biggest frauds ever in my book anyway.
It's a Jump To Conclusions mat!  
Dunedin81 : 3/29/2017 11:09 am : link
Irvin is innocent until he is proven guilty (and innocenter still until the police or the prosecutor decide that probable cause exists to pursue this criminally).

That said, it's no more reasonable to assume that she simply got drunk and woke up with a case of buyer's remorse than to start measuring him for a jumpsuit.

And a test kit can establish that they had sex, it is unlikely that it would definitively establish that the sex was nonconsensual.
Imagine he was totally innocent here  
LatHarv83 : 3/29/2017 11:16 am : link
And has had 3 false accusations against him. Talk about worst luck ever if that's the case. And I guess it's possible that could be the case. We know for a fact the first accuser was lying. They didn't see fit to file criminal charges against him for the 2nd accuser. And now there is this

Of course he also could be a 2x assaulter and have other victims who haven't come forward. We don't know. But imagine for a second that he was accused 3x falsely. That's just crazy
RE: RE: Sounds like  
figgy2989 : 3/29/2017 11:26 am : link
In comment 13410469 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:
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In comment 13410439 Joey in VA said:


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Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?



These guys are targets. Point blank. She could have drugged herself. Is Irvin a choir boy. Hardly.

But if you are a real scheming piece of shit, you could certainly do this:

1) Have consensual sex with Irvin. Save a little baby batter for later.
2) Eat a roofie that you gave yourself. With Irvin's and Sharper's history, it would look really bad in court.
3) Make a claim that you were assaulted. Punch yourself in the face a couple times, scratch Irvin during the consensual sex and now you have DNA x 2.
4) Tear a piece of clothing and voila! It becomes an instant 'add water and mix' civil suit with Irvin likely to go to jail.

Yes, I watch waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much Law and Order. but crazier shit has happened.


Sounds like a case Benson and crew could solve in 60 minutes with commercials.
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/29/2017 11:27 am : link
In comment 13410488 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 13410439 Joey in VA said:


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Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?



These guys are targets. Point blank. She could have drugged herself. Is Irvin a choir boy. Hardly.

But if you are a real scheming piece of shit, you could certainly do this:

1) Have consensual sex with Irvin. Save a little baby batter for later.
2) Eat a roofie that you gave yourself. With Irvin's and Sharper's history, it would look really bad in court.
3) Make a claim that you were assaulted. Punch yourself in the face a couple times, scratch Irvin during the consensual sex and now you have DNA x 2.
4) Tear a piece of clothing and voila! It becomes an instant 'add water and mix' civil suit with Irvin likely to go to jail.

Yes, I watch waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much Law and Order. but crazier shit has happened.



Sounds like a case Benson and crew could solve in 60 minutes with commercials.


And have it tried in the same time period!
Or the more plausible scenario...  
Dunedin81 : 3/29/2017 11:28 am : link
which is that he slept with a heavily intoxicated woman who may or may not have been too drunk to consent.
Playmaker!  
trueblueinpw : 3/29/2017 11:30 am : link
Irving has really grown on me over the years. Think it started with his Football Life (those things make everyone seem like a decent person) and I like him on NFLN and ItNFL because he makes me laugh.

Now, I'm not an ex-star athlete, so maybe it doesn't apply, but I've never been accused of rape. Playmaker's got three accusations on his jacket now. Smoke without fire? Possible. Three times?
He should be charged with "Being Stupid"  
BillT : 3/29/2017 11:56 am : link
Bringing really drunk women back to your hotel room is asking for trouble even if you're not a celebrity. For him it's just really stupid.
"Nothing happened"  
lugnut : 3/29/2017 12:40 pm : link
Right, Michael Irvin did not have sex with a drunk woman significantly younger than himself.
I am more skeptical  
allstarjim : 3/29/2017 12:45 pm : link
than some about rape accusations...

I think there are plenty of lying women out there who will do or say just about anything to either save their dignity or to extort wealthy men.

However, in this case it appears she went straight to the hospital in the morning, so I hope that the evidence collected is conclusive in determining what really happened, either to exonerate or to convict Irvin.

When it comes to the rich, successful, don't even have to be good looking but sometimes are, I will never understand why they would ever do something like this, not like it is EVER excusable... but look at Darren Sharper... rich, successful, good-looking guy... could've had threesomes every night for the rest of his life if that's what he wanted, with willing partners. Why would you screw your life up over some ass when you don't even have to try hard to get any?
Irvin was never who he thinks he is  
WideRight : 3/29/2017 12:47 pm : link
As a player or a person.

But this one probably won't stick either. His lawyers will beat her lawyers, everytime.
I hope this isn't true  
David in LA : 3/29/2017 2:28 pm : link
I've run into the guy a couple times, and he was a really nice guy.
RE: Irvin was never who he thinks he is  
Big Blue '56 : 3/29/2017 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13410613 WideRight said:
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As a player or a person.

But this one probably won't stick either. His lawyers will beat her lawyers, everytime.


I don't know what he did or didn't do. What I believe is that he's a sick fucker who riles easily..I mean he did stab a teammate in the neck with barbershop scissors..So, who knows whether it was consensual or a Cosby..
But I need more of his opinion on Odell Beckham  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/29/2017 3:35 pm : link
hitting the kicker's net.
For some of these guys...  
Dunedin81 : 3/29/2017 4:06 pm : link
Sharper in particular, it's pretty obviously more than just a desire for a partner. The sleazy college d-bag who stays sober while feeding girls drinks may be a predator or he may just think he doesn't have a shot at a sober girl. Doesn't make it right, of course it isn't, but the latter is a different problem. A guy who clearly has the ability to have consensual sex at will but who engages in nonconsensual sex is likely more interested in the mechanics of the act - the struggle, what have you - than in simply finding someone to sleep with.

Whether that describes Irvin or not I haven't the foggiest idea, but Sharper's problems - and Bill Cosby's, and perhaps Roethlisberger's - certainly went way beyond just wanting to have sex.
RE: Sounds like  
JOrthman : 3/29/2017 11:48 pm : link
In comment 13410439 Joey in VA said:
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Drunk girl drank too much and realized she could erase anything stupid she did the night before by making a bogus claim. she "THINKS" she was drugged and raped, wouldn't the rape kit pretty much seal it?


A Rape kit will only show sex occurred not if she was raped or not. A full SAFE exam will give more of an indication. However, even that exam does not prove anything one way or the other.
What ever the facts are behind this claim  
Gross Blau Oberst : 3/30/2017 6:22 am : link
The only positive would be to see him removed from broadcasting

I absolutely detest him and his U attitude.

Seeing him removed from all broadcast forums would be a happy day.

I also hope not true  
SomeFan : 3/30/2017 8:45 am : link
If it is not true, he needs his agent or mother or someone to vet these women!
I also hope not true  
SomeFan : 3/30/2017 8:46 am : link
If it is not true, he needs his agent or mother or someone to vet these women!
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