I will admit I have not seen either one play, but when I read the bio they seem pretty much the same. Both are fast and athletic TE's. Draft reports say Njoku is the more willing blocker but he also has a higher drop rate.
The say Njoku is round 1 pick while Engram is mostly talked about as a round 2 guy.
What am i missing here?
I like Engram as a Jordan Reed type TE, but really only that.
Njoku has the potential to be a true 2-way tight end. Is bigger than Engram now with the frame to add 10-15 more pounds with maybe no loss in speed.
engram scares me a little...he is kinda like dustin keller if you guys remember him. I think he could be a weapon with that speed, but i rather a more traditional TE who is willing to block. njoku can def add some weight to his frame and prob become a solid blocker, that along with his play making ability he could be a great pick. if howard or rueban foster are there either is the pick, if both gone as i expect, njoku isnt a bad choice
With Njoku the scouts are seeing that burly body and doing a projection to complete TE. This is probably a chimera, but hope springs eternal.
Engram has athleticism which is upper echelon even for a WR. Even a conservative plodder like McAdoo should be able to create insurmountable matchup problems for a defense with OBJ, Marshall, Shepard and Engram.
I believe the signing of Ellison makes it highly unlikely the Giants target Engram and could see him in blue only if he fell into our lap for a ridiculously low pick, which just is not going to happen with this player.
I'll take Njoku all day over him.
I'll take Njoku all day over him.
Wrong. He is a capable and willing blocker. Check the Senior Bowl. He is light years ahead of Njoku in pass catching ability and route running.
Njoku is clumsy with bad hands and almost Donnell-esque. Engram ran a 4.42 40yd. dash. WTF are you people looking at to make these determinations?
Not........even...............close.
Completely different football players. Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger
Completely different football players. Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger
"Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger"
Quite possibly, the dumbest shit I've read today.
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c'mon now really?
Completely different football players. Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger
"Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger"
Quite possibly, the dumbest shit I've read today.
No offense.
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really strike me as a TE. He's a great weapon in the pass game out of the slot, but he wasn't really asked to do much else at Ole Miss. He'll be a nice receiving option cause he's explosive, but he won't be able to block a lick. So essentially, he's big bodied WR.
I'll take Njoku all day over him.
Wrong. He is a capable and willing blocker. Check the Senior Bowl. He is light years ahead of Njoku in pass catching ability and route running.
Njoku is clumsy with bad hands and almost Donnell-esque. Engram ran a 4.42 40yd. dash. WTF are you people looking at to make these determinations?
Not........even...............close.
Not sure how you got to bad hands unless you're just looking at his drop rate over his 2 year college career. Most consider them concentration drops and most occurred in his 1st year. He's actually a good hands catcher which he demonstrated at the combine (see link),
I don't see clumsy rather more of a 20 year old who hasn't grown into his body yet. A high school national champion in the high jump doesn't match the profile of some that is clumsy.
Yes the kid is green but the potential is there. BTW he has 10" hands with a wing span of 82 1/2"
This is not intended as a knock on Engram who has the potential to be a great move TE.
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Engram is very good but to me the TE's rank:
1. Howard
2. Njoku
3. Engram
Again, with the offense the Giants play, with the priority of 3 WR, would you really want to spend the 23rd pick on a TE when you can find an effective player 60 picks later.
A 'willing' blocker is a fancy way of saying he is a bad blocker
Again, with the offense the Giants play, with the priority of 3 WR, would you really want to spend the 23rd pick on a TE when you can find an effective player 60 picks later.
A 'willing' blocker is a fancy way of saying he is a bad blocker
completely disagree. Eli needs a effective 2 way TE as a safety valve in his offense. It gives him more comfort in the pocket.
Also that TE will help open up the crossing routes for the WR's.
Hunter Henry would have been such a nice pick last year.
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c'mon now really?
Completely different football players. Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger
"Njoku is a better prospect because he's bigger"
Quite possibly, the dumbest shit I've read today.
You should try reading your own posts then.
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True. But he also posted a 40" vertical beating his combine 38".
To me the benefit of a kid le him is can/will replace Marshall in year or two if needed. Depends on what you are willing to do scheme wise. It saying he should be the pick but it's about using players to their abilities. It shoving them into a scheme
robbie, I've made that same point about Engram many times. If we were talking about a WR who's 6-3, 234, with 33 1/2-inch arms and ten inch hands...who ran a 4.42 at the Combine with a 36-inch vert and a 6.92 3-cone, no one would complain if the Giants drafted him at #23. But call him a TE and all bets are off.
Gimme the freak o' nature down the seam to officially make this passing game unfair / impossible to stop. Giants currently have the equivalent of Spiderman @ WR with Marshall/Shepard as compliments
a threat @ TE - especially in Mcadoo's system - I honestly don't know how coordinators would prepare to stop this offense.