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NFT: Best Hot Pastrami on Rye in NYC

mavric : 3/29/2017 3:05 pm
Okay...I know this will start a war because it is very subjective and New Yorkers have hard core opinions on such matters.

But I'm taking my grandson to NYC in a couple of months to a Yankee game and promised to get him a NYC Pastrami sandwich. And I want it to blow him away. He's 16 and eats like a horse so it's not like he's a 5-yr old that can barely get through a hamburg. So not only very tasty (ie., lean, perfectly cooked, not fatty), but also stacked tall.

Let the battle begin
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The second you see how thick that bread is  
jcn56 : 3/29/2017 4:32 pm : link
you know that sandwich isn't to be taken seriously. C'mon.

Copious amounts of meat with an insufficient amount of bread to maintain structural integrity, that's a good sandwich.
leave it to Stan to tell someone asking to  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/29/2017 4:56 pm : link
find a Pastrami spot in NYC that they should go to LA
RE: Stan, have you been to Wexler's yet?  
Stan in LA : 3/29/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13411070 David in LA said:
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Yeah, was not impressed. Pricey and average quality. Izzy's up the street is immensely better(value and quality).
RE: leave it to Stan to tell someone asking to  
Stan in LA : 3/29/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13411145 gidiefor said:
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find a Pastrami spot in NYC that they should go to LA

Gotta think outside the box when it comes to wanting the best, no?
Stan - i love you and  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/29/2017 5:04 pm : link
you could be right -- but see thread title
I haven't been to the Wexler's in Santa Monica  
David in LA : 3/29/2017 5:04 pm : link
I'd recommend going to the one in Grand Central Market if you're ever out that way, since that location has been under operation longer to work out the kinks.

Gidie, to be fair to Stan, Langer's makes a VERY GOOD pastrami sammich. Katz has the slightly better pastrami IMO, but Langer's has a better Rye that is double baked. If you combined the two, you'd have the perfect sandwich.
RE: Stan - i love you and  
Stan in LA : 3/29/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13411158 gidiefor said:
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you could be right -- but see thread title

I know, I know, but except for the location part I nailed it, no? :)
any Queens residents remember  
oghwga : 3/29/2017 5:17 pm : link
Nick and Pete's back in the 80's? All they sold was pastrami. Awesome.
RE: RE: nope  
Josh in the City : 3/29/2017 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13411002 Essex said:
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Katz overrated

Second Avenue Deli is best
there are a few locations now .. i prefer the one on 33rd street and 2nd ave



Second Avenue Deli is most overrated deli I have ever been to. Their pastrami can be bad at almost any Jewish deli in tri state area. Katz is one of the few places that lives up to hype. Bestpastrami I have ever had. It is unreal and is not even close to replicated anywhere I have ever been. Mendy's is also good, nowhere near Katz but if you are in Murray Hill go there instead of Second Ave Deli


Disagree completely. I am in the camp that prefers 2nd Ave to Katz's and I don't think it's close.
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shelovesnycsports : 3/29/2017 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13411019 Deej said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.
Here is the link to the article and the photo.

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I'm surprised  
mavric : 3/29/2017 5:34 pm : link
that there aren't more battles going on with a half dozen delis being argued over.

Sounds to me like I MUST check out Katz for both the city experience as well as an iconic meal. I don't get down to the city as often as I used to and only get there every other year or so - usually to catch an international flight out of JFK. But if I go to Katz, I now have a benchmark for which to compare other places when I do get down that way.

So, Katz it is
RE: I'm surprised  
ShocknAwe80 : 3/29/2017 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13411189 mavric said:
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that there aren't more battles going on with a half dozen delis being argued over.

Sounds to me like I MUST check out Katz for both the city experience as well as an iconic meal. I don't get down to the city as often as I used to and only get there every other year or so - usually to catch an international flight out of JFK. But if I go to Katz, I now have a benchmark for which to compare other places when I do get down that way.

So, Katz it is


Why are you surprised? The best hot pastrami on rye question is akin to the gas grill question; when there is a clear winner you get a clear answer: Katz's and weber respectively!
RE: Surprised  
mavric : 3/29/2017 6:33 pm : link
because a few years ago I watched a thread grow to 15 pages of New Yorkers arguing vehemently over a dozen different places. And each person was insulted if someone disagreed with them so it got really nasty. Hence, I'm surprised at the civility of this thread as well as a pretty much unanimous agreement.
RE: RE: Surprised  
Stan in LA : 3/29/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13411238 mavric said:
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because a few years ago I watched a thread grow to 15 pages of New Yorkers arguing vehemently over a dozen different places. And each person was insulted if someone disagreed with them so it got really nasty. Hence, I'm surprised at the civility of this thread as well as a pretty much unanimous agreement.

Now that Carnegie is gone, Katz is the best in NY, but Langer's LA is better than both of them.
I  
mitch300 : 3/29/2017 6:55 pm : link
am so jealous. Here in northen Ca there is no Jewish deli's. Pastrami up here is like a cold cut.
Avoid the Touristy Places  
Suburbanites : 3/29/2017 7:17 pm : link
Go authentic, Essen's Cony Island Ave. in Brooklyn.
Katz's  
Bubba : 3/29/2017 7:53 pm : link
best I ever had.
Katz's is the best......  
Simms11 : 3/29/2017 8:09 pm : link
Carnegie wasn't bad, but it's now closed too. Katz's is way down on the lower East Side keep in mind, as well.
Any Rachel fans  
B in ALB : 3/29/2017 8:13 pm : link
in this bitch?

Very few spots make a good reuben and i'll opt out and go for the rachel.

Bens deli is pretty good  
Tuckrule : 3/29/2017 8:20 pm : link
2nd ave is alright I prefer Bens
quick question  
J : 3/29/2017 8:30 pm : link
does Katz' let you share, or is there a plate or sharing fee of some kind?
RE: Bens deli is pretty good  
mavric : 3/29/2017 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13411322 Tuckrule said:
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2nd ave is alright I prefer Bens


I've actually eaten there a couple of times and loved it. However, over the years people have convinced me that I was missing out on better Pastrami. Actually, Ben's is the only place I know from a personal perspective
RE: quick question  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/29/2017 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13411328 J said:
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does Katz' let you share, or is there a plate or sharing fee of some kind?


Katz's is self-service - I don't believe they monitor sharing
I'm assuming mustard is part of this deal but maybe I'm wrong -  
Del Shofner : 3/29/2017 9:21 pm : link
I know ketchup is a controversial subject on BBI.

If mustard ... what kind exactly?
For me, when it comes to Pastrami  
mavric : 3/29/2017 9:31 pm : link
the only thing I'd add is Russian Dressing, not mustard or ketchup or even cheese.
RE: For me, when it comes to Pastrami  
Del Shofner : 3/29/2017 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13411362 mavric said:
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the only thing I'd add is Russian Dressing, not mustard or ketchup or even cheese.


of course not ketchup or cheese, I was only thinking about mustard ... but Russian ... this may require an investigation! :-)
I like spicy Brown  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/29/2017 10:03 pm : link
mustard on Pastrami
mrs gidiefor just poked her nose in to say  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/29/2017 10:04 pm : link
she likes russian dressing and slaw on her pastrami
This thread is killing me  
shelovesnycsports : 3/29/2017 10:11 pm : link
try finding a decent Pastrami sandwich in Florida.
This thread has just made me decide to make my own Pastrami  
montanagiant : 3/29/2017 11:05 pm : link
Just ordered the Prague Powder #1
I knew before I opened this thread that Stan's  
Mr. Bungle : 3/29/2017 11:08 pm : link
L.A. inferiority complex to NYC would manifest itself.

I was right. As usual.
RE: This thread has just made me decide to make my own Pastrami  
jcn56 : 3/29/2017 11:11 pm : link
In comment 13411406 montanagiant said:
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Just ordered the Prague Powder #1


This time of year I always make "cheater" pastrami out of corned beef on sale for St. Patrick's. Obviously a DIY from scratch will be better (and more customizable), but considering the ease and what you can find on sale, the results are pretty damn good.
http://grilling24x7.com/cheater-pastrami/ - ( New Window )
RE: I knew before I opened this thread that Stan's  
Stan in LA : 3/30/2017 12:55 am : link
In comment 13411407 Mr. Bungle said:
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L.A. inferiority complex to NYC would manifest itself.

I was right. As usual.

Unfortunately, you bungled that one. Langer's is the best...
This isn't even a question. It's Katz without dispute.  
Matt M. : 3/30/2017 6:02 am : link
It's made in house and hand sliced. It's always hot and fresh because they are always packed. It tastes the best. And even though it is expensive, the sandwich is enough to feed a small army. Plus, they'll give you a sample while you watch them slice it. Then the kicker is it is one of the few places where you can still get a real egg cream.
RE: RE: RE: the bread looks different in the two pics  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/30/2017 6:41 am : link
In comment 13411188 shelovesnycsports said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.

Here is the link to the article and the photo. LINK - ( New Window )

Did you read the article? The author even said that they forgot to take a picture of the pastrami sandwich and threw in a stock photo instead.
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Deej : 3/30/2017 7:34 am : link
In comment 13411188 shelovesnycsports said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.

Here is the link to the article and the photo. LINK - ( New Window )


Dont care what the article says. I know it is an absolute certainty that the picture you posted is not of a Katz sandwich. Katz sandwiches are hand carved, while the picture you posted is of machine cut pastrami. If you dont know on sight that the picture you posted is not a Katz sandwich, you shouldnt be voting for Katz's on this thread.
Shame on any of you  
Rflairr : 3/30/2017 8:36 am : link
Trying to tell this guy to go anywhere else but Katz's. you know better
Going to LA next week  
widmerseyebrow : 3/30/2017 9:34 am : link
Can't wait to try Langers
RE: RE: This thread has just made me decide to make my own Pastrami  
mitch300 : 3/30/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13411409 jcn56 said:
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Just ordered the Prague Powder #1



This time of year I always make "cheater" pastrami out of corned beef on sale for St. Patrick's. Obviously a DIY from scratch will be better (and more customizable), but considering the ease and what you can find on sale, the results are pretty damn good. http://grilling24x7.com/cheater-pastrami/ - ( New Window )


So you tried this recipe. Did you alter it at all. Seems like a lot of pepper. Should I ecpect anything close to N.Y. style jewish pastrami?
RE: Going to LA next week  
Stan in LA : 3/30/2017 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13411608 widmerseyebrow said:
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Can't wait to try Langers


Please note that have weird hours:


Monday – Saturday, 8AM – 4PM
Closed Sundays and select holidays
I have only been to a half dozen delis in NY  
Maryland Giant : 3/30/2017 1:06 pm : link
But Katz would be my choice.
Langers menu  
Deej : 3/30/2017 1:44 pm : link
is a little to goyishe for me. Open Saturday, closed Sunday?
RE: Langers menu  
mavric : 3/30/2017 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13412094 Deej said:
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is a little to goyishe for me. Open Saturday, closed Sunday?


Yeah, doesn't sound very Jewish, lol. I go to Israel every few years and everything shuts down on Saturdays and Sundays are some of the busiest days of the week and everyone is on the move
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shelovesnycsports : 3/30/2017 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13411467 Deej said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.

Here is the link to the article and the photo. LINK - ( New Window )



Dont care what the article says. I know it is an absolute certainty that the picture you posted is not of a Katz sandwich. Katz sandwiches are hand carved, while the picture you posted is of machine cut pastrami. If you dont know on sight that the picture you posted is not a Katz sandwich, you shouldnt be voting for Katz's on this thread.
Hey Moron its off their site on the internet.
Maybe since its a PR picture someone used a slicer, it doesn't mean its not Katz product.. Also who died and made you the Katz slicing expert? So you decide who votes on a sandwich thread? bite me.
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^^^^^^  
Del Shofner : 3/30/2017 8:21 pm : link
Food fight!

Seriously, looking at that link, the pastrami looks wonderful but those are some freaking thick sandwiches. I would need to take out at least half of the pastrami before eating the sandwich.
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Matt M. : 3/30/2017 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13411467 Deej said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.

Here is the link to the article and the photo. LINK - ( New Window )



Dont care what the article says. I know it is an absolute certainty that the picture you posted is not of a Katz sandwich. Katz sandwiches are hand carved, while the picture you posted is of machine cut pastrami. If you dont know on sight that the picture you posted is not a Katz sandwich, you shouldnt be voting for Katz's on this thread.
I noticed the same thing yesterday, but didn't comment on it. That is most definitely NOT a Katz' sandwich.
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shelovesnycsports : 3/30/2017 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13412492 Matt M. said:
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the image I got said Katz...maybe it's bullshit. They don't look the same. Whatever, Katz is great but I haven't been there in years.



Your picture looks more accurate. Re shelovesnycsports's pic, the bread is too thick and the meat too thinly sliced to be Katz's. Humans arent slicing pastrami that thin.

Here is the link to the article and the photo. LINK - ( New Window )



Dont care what the article says. I know it is an absolute certainty that the picture you posted is not of a Katz sandwich. Katz sandwiches are hand carved, while the picture you posted is of machine cut pastrami. If you dont know on sight that the picture you posted is not a Katz sandwich, you shouldnt be voting for Katz's on this thread.

I noticed the same thing yesterday, but didn't comment on it. That is most definitely NOT a Katz' sandwich.

RE: ^^^^^^  
jcn56 : 3/30/2017 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13412454 Del Shofner said:
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Food fight!

Seriously, looking at that link, the pastrami looks wonderful but those are some freaking thick sandwiches. I would need to take out at least half of the pastrami before eating the sandwich.


I might be the only one on the thread, but I don't think that Katz uses too much meat in their sandwiches.

Not a cardiologist approved amount of meat, mind you - but not so much that a hungry person who can take down a fair amount of food could consume in one sitting.

There is an anomaly in the way they make the sandwich in that the meat is stacked toward the center where they cut it, and it tapers downward. If you were to even it out, you'd get a solid 2" of pastrami, but not so much that you're guaranteed to leave some unfinished.
Jcn  
mitch300 : 3/30/2017 11:06 pm : link
Regarding the link to the cheaters pastrami, have you tried it. Did you alter the recipe at all. Seems like a lot of pepper. Most importantly, did it takes like New York deli pastrami.
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Del Shofner : 3/30/2017 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13412524 jcn56 said:
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Food fight!

Seriously, looking at that link, the pastrami looks wonderful but those are some freaking thick sandwiches. I would need to take out at least half of the pastrami before eating the sandwich.



I might be the only one on the thread, but I don't think that Katz uses too much meat in their sandwiches.

Not a cardiologist approved amount of meat, mind you - but not so much that a hungry person who can take down a fair amount of food could consume in one sitting.

There is an anomaly in the way they make the sandwich in that the meat is stacked toward the center where they cut it, and it tapers downward. If you were to even it out, you'd get a solid 2" of pastrami, but not so much that you're guaranteed to leave some unfinished.


ah ... now I'm hungry for some pastrami!
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