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BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

Matt G : 4/2/2017 10:32 pm
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft and will need to be bumped occasionally to push them back to page 1 of the forum.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (ie: Indianapolis Colts won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.

Once again, I strongly encourage ALL GMs to utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
Bears are ready!  
Anakim : 4/2/2017 11:13 pm : link
Last year we might have possibly won the BBI mock draft with THREE picks taken in the first round of the actual NFL draft, including ROTY Ezekiel Elliott.
RE: Bears are ready!  
est1986 : 4/2/2017 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13415134 Anakim said:
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Last year we might have possibly won the BBI mock draft with THREE picks taken in the first round of the actual NFL draft, including ROTY Ezekiel Elliott.


Who did u draft 1-3 for Chicago? I assume Elliot RD1..
RE: RE: Bears are ready!  
Anakim : 4/3/2017 12:28 am : link
In comment 13415159 est1986 said:
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In comment 13415134 Anakim said:


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Last year we might have possibly won the BBI mock draft with THREE picks taken in the first round of the actual NFL draft, including ROTY Ezekiel Elliott.



Who did u draft 1-3 for Chicago? I assume Elliot RD1..


Elliott, Ifedi and Keanu Neal
Do us proud,  
SHO'NUFF : 4/3/2017 2:38 am : link
Andy!
Cowboys GM ready  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2017 7:35 am : link
Last year's draft first 3 picks for Cowboys all impact PLAYERS IN 2016.

Joey Bosa
Hunter Henry
Dak Prescott
Thanks for the Sticky!  
SirYesSir : 4/3/2017 8:46 am : link
good deal
Cleveland should be getting their pick in today  
Matt G : 4/3/2017 8:46 am : link
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SirYesSir... Agreed  
Matt G : 4/3/2017 8:48 am : link
Appreciated the mods doing this for us the last two years...
Steel Curtain GM  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/3/2017 9:07 am : link
Checking in!
Wow, we are so ahead of the game  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2017 9:34 am : link
Thank you, Matt G. These mocks have been running like a finely tuned machine since you took over stewardship.

The Pack's GM did not do well last year with his first three picks. I picked Reggie Ragland, Austin Johnson and Jerell Adams. Both Ragland and Adams went a lot later than where I got them. And, Ragland got hurt to top it off. Not a good showing by me.
Looking forward to seeing who I annoy  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2017 10:11 am : link
With my picks this year
How do trades work  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/3/2017 11:23 am : link
if I am open to making one at any point or would like to trade up at anytime?
RE: How do trades work  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13415512 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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if I am open to making one at any point or would like to trade up at anytime?


No trades allowed
Well all...  
Lionhart28 : 4/3/2017 12:50 pm : link
Should we kick this thing off? Cleveland may just sign the first pick a week before the draft starts...
As a fan of the BBI Mock, may I politely suggest...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/3/2017 1:13 pm : link
...omitting big images from the picks thread? We all know what the college uniforms look like.
After a easy first pick the top ten can go anyway  
est1986 : 4/3/2017 1:16 pm : link
The more Qbs the better.
BBB  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2017 1:16 pm : link
But the Pics of the selections is part of what makes this mock draft so much fun. I know I really enjoy them.
RE: Well all...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/3/2017 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13415643 Lionhart28 said:
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Should we kick this thing off? Cleveland may just sign the first pick a week before the draft starts...


Fixed the picture for you!
Thanks  
Lionhart28 : 4/3/2017 1:47 pm : link
Tried to post a gif, didn't work... Clearly.
Who is going to toss  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/3/2017 4:16 pm : link
the ball for the 49ers.

I feel like a safety at #2 is way way way to high!
RE: Who is going to toss  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13416053 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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the ball for the 49ers.

I feel like a safety at #2 is way way way to high!


No QB is worth the 2nd overall pick. Kizer, Mahomes, or Trubisky might be there by the time of their 2nd Round pick. BPA at #2 was definitely defense
Adams is a legitimate Top 5 pick, so no argument there.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/3/2017 4:37 pm : link
With Reid playing on a fifth-year option, and Tartt not really panning out so far, safety is arguably a need. The draftnik consensus for the 49ers, if they stay put at #2, seems to be Solomon Thomas, who would be a popular hometown pick. Adams might offer a little more "special" than Thomas, and his bloodlines are excellent (though hip problems prevented his dad from doing much for the Giants).
first three are Defense  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/3/2017 4:58 pm : link
Defense - ya hear!
Can't see Jamal Adams going top 5  
Amtoft : 4/3/2017 5:14 pm : link
however a huge talent. I think number 2 is to high especially with the 49ers switching their Def. I think Jonathan Allen would have been the safer pick, but I also think Adams will be a star so how can you argue with the pick.
I think that's a high pick for Adams  
allstarjim : 4/3/2017 8:09 pm : link
But also think he's a nice fit for that defense. I have no problem with it. I would've taken Trubisky there if I'm the Niners, though.
I know the clock doesn't actually start until next week  
jlukes : 4/4/2017 8:30 am : link
but has someone contacted Kevin to let him know hes up?
New Ownership in Buffalo has everyone excited  
superspynyg : 4/4/2017 8:35 am : link
Bills!!
Last year I got  
English Alaister : 4/4/2017 9:09 am : link
28. Kansas City (English Alaister) - William Jackson III, CB, Houston
59. Kansas City (English Alaister) - *Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina
126. Kansas City (English Alaister) - *Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
162. Kansas City (English Alaister) from Sea – Parker Ehinger, OG, Cincinnati
165. Kansas City (English Alaister) – Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford
203. Kansas City (English Alaister) – Deon Bush, FS, Miami (Fla.)

Jackson III has great buzz before a pectoral injury ruined his year. Cooper was a disappointment but I got Parker Ehinger who actually was taken by the Chiefs 57 spots higher and started for 5 games, I got Perkins who looked good, Deon Bush 80 spots later than he went where he started 6 games for the Bears and I got Martinez 30 spots before he went and he got 70 tackles for the Pack.
RE: RE: Who is going to toss  
Big Rick in FL : 4/4/2017 9:37 am : link
In comment 13416058 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13416053 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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the ball for the 49ers.

I feel like a safety at #2 is way way way to high!



No QB is worth the 2nd overall pick. Kizer, Mahomes, or Trubisky might be there by the time of their 2nd Round pick. BPA at #2 was definitely defense


Highly unlikely Mahomes or Trubisky get out of the top 15.
RE: Last year I got  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/4/2017 9:42 am : link
English Alaister said:
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28. Kansas City (English Alaister) - William Jackson III, CB, Houston
59. Kansas City (English Alaister) - *Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina
126. Kansas City (English Alaister) - *Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
162. Kansas City (English Alaister) from Sea – Parker Ehinger, OG, Cincinnati
165. Kansas City (English Alaister) – Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford
203. Kansas City (English Alaister) – Deon Bush, FS, Miami (Fla.)

Jackson III has great buzz before a pectoral injury ruined his year. Cooper was a disappointment but I got Parker Ehinger who actually was taken by the Chiefs 57 spots higher and started for 5 games, I got Perkins who looked good, Deon Bush 80 spots later than he went where he started 6 games for the Bears and I got Martinez 30 spots before he went and he got 70 tackles for the Pack.

I think you mean you got Martinez 30 (actually 34) picks after he went. Nice job, except for Cooper and maybe jumping the gun on Perkins.
028. William Jackson III, CB, Houston [Actual: 024 - CIN]
059. *Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina [Actual: 117 - RAM]
126. *Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA [Actual: 149 - NYG]
162. Parker Ehinger, OG, Cincinnati [Actual:105 - KAN]
165. Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford [Actual: 131 - GNB]
203. Deon Bush, FS, Miami (Fla.) [Actual: 124 - CHI]
Mongos gonna mong...  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2017 10:40 am : link
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Thanks BBB  
English Alaister : 4/4/2017 11:24 am : link
Yes...meant later...good catch! Definitely forced a WR pick with Cooper. Hopefully that looks better in a couple of years but dubious.
My 21 player board  
Amtoft : 4/4/2017 12:48 pm : link
has been sent to Matt just in case I am not around.
As a spectactor  
MotownGIANTS : 4/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
have you ever considering moving the Mock Draft to the FB version of BBI?

Easier notification of when picks come in and people can know they are up to bat ...
*in  
MotownGIANTS : 4/4/2017 2:52 pm : link
the future ....
RE: *in  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13417178 MotownGIANTS said:
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the future ....


Not all participants are on Facebook. Do not want to lose longstanding participants for that reason.
Time to change the draft order  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2017 3:24 pm : link
Adam Schefter
11 mins ·
Facebook Mentions
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‪So here's the deal: Ravens traded DT Tim Jernigan and third-round pick (No. 99) for Eagles third-round pick (No. 74), per source.‬

Now I have one more need to fill :(
email has been sent to Kevin  
Matt G : 4/4/2017 6:57 pm : link
...
Sean Taylor wasn't even  
SHO'NUFF : 4/4/2017 7:53 pm : link
worth a #2
Pick is in  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2017 9:19 pm : link
Thought about Thomas, Howard, and Fournette. With Yeldon and Ivory as the returning backs, the Jags add a true power back to relieve some of the pressure off of Bortles. Coughlin loves power backs like Fournette and he should thrive within this offense.
TC taking Running Back that high would shock me  
est1986 : 4/4/2017 9:27 pm : link
With no QB selected so far, I would love to see them bring in a QB, I think if he goes skills guy he takes Mike Williams.
I don't have a problem picking a QB but not in the first round  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2017 9:37 pm : link
Bortles will have one more year to prove himself.

Jags have zero solid running backs. Fournette could be the next AP, can't pass that up. Their wide receivers are solid, so no need to draft one this high.
Matt G  
Saos1n : 4/4/2017 9:41 pm : link
It's not a big deal because your spreadsheet is correct but your original post in the Selection Thread has #32 being owned by New England, not New Orleans
RE: Matt G  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13417604 Saos1n said:
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It's not a big deal because your spreadsheet is correct but your original post in the Selection Thread has #32 being owned by New England, not New Orleans


And I want pick 74 because of the Timmy Jernigan deal since we are nowhere near that point yet
Coughlin loves a rotation of RBs  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/4/2017 10:01 pm : link
Jax doesn't have a bad mix already, and TC would rather take an RB at a later time.

I think they would go defense, or possibly QB.
RE: Coughlin loves a rotation of RBs  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2017 11:44 pm : link
In comment 13417624 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Jax doesn't have a bad mix already, and TC would rather take an RB at a later time.

I think they would go defense, or possibly QB.


They ranked 23rd in rushing last year. Yeldon and Ivory isn't scaring anyone. I thought about Thomas but I can see him being a bust. No way the Jags would go the QB route with their first pick. If they struggle this year, then they'll be able to grab a stud QB in a much stronger class next year.
RE: TC taking Running Back that high would shock me  
allstarjim : 4/5/2017 12:51 am : link
In comment 13417583 est1986 said:
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With no QB selected so far, I would love to see them bring in a QB, I think if he goes skills guy he takes Mike Williams.


Really? TC loves a power running game, and Fournette will be one of the best power running backs in the NFL immediately. Moreover, the Bags have a lot of talent on defense already, a QB that still has a pretty good ceiling, and very good receivers but are desperate for a good running attack. Fournette gives them that. I can't see any scenario where I get away from Fournette to the Bags.
Jags, not Bags.  
allstarjim : 4/5/2017 12:52 am : link
Damn I hate auto-correct.
Saos1n  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 1:18 am : link
Pointed out and addressed in the other thread
Mike  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 1:20 am : link
The selection order of each round is locked at the round starts...
At the time the round starts  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 1:21 am : link
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I think Fournette is the right pick  
English Alaister : 4/5/2017 6:37 am : link
Give Bortles a shot and inject that ground game with some serious talent. Yeldon is a JAG.
RE: At the time the round starts  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 6:51 am : link
In comment 13417697 Matt G said:
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So the 3rd Round order will reflect any trades involving 3rd round or later picks at the time 3rd Round starts? Just wanted to confirm, because if I have pick 99 rather than pick 74 that does alter my calculations about certain positions being available at certain points
RE: I think Fournette is the right pick  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 7:06 am : link
English Alaister said:
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Give Bortles a shot and inject that ground game with some serious talent. Yeldon is a JAG.
Makes sense. And with Allen off the board, there isn't an obvious need-meets-value pick for Jacksonville. I see the objection about the pick being out of character for Coughlin, but I don't recall realism being a constraint in the BBI mock.
Who is the Jags Defensive Coordinator & Offensive Coordinator  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 9:08 am : link
?
Mike in NY  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 9:13 am : link
Yes... The round will lock when we get to it... Assuming no additional trades are made between now and then, you will have pick #74...
I don't love the pick  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/5/2017 9:15 am : link
Think Tc would consider Solomon Thomas here? Know he loves depth at DL. I think Fournette will be great just think 4 is high for RB
Do we really need someone to say...  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 10:37 am : link
"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?
RE: Do we really need someone to say...  
mrvax : 4/5/2017 10:39 am : link
In comment 13417988 est1986 said:
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"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?


Why, yes. Yes they do.
I think the pick if the value was there  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/5/2017 10:43 am : link
would be an OL, but sadly the crop is shit and that would be a reach

Now maybe he would go OJ Howard, to address some of the blocking and give Bortles another receiving option. Kills 2 birds with one stone.

I could see them taking OL in the second because that's where the value is.
Ned: The issue there would be resource allocation.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 10:43 am : link
Ned In Atlanta said:
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Think Tc would consider Solomon Thomas here? Know he loves depth at DL.
Depth is one thing. Adding the #4 pick to Fowler and Jack on the edge - not to mention the big contract they gave Campbell to anchor the line, and the remaining commitment to Jackson - might be overkill.
RE: Do we really need someone to say...  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2017 11:17 am : link
In comment 13417988 est1986 said:
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"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?
Yes, we do. It is part of the charm of the BBI Mock Draft. We are playing pretend here when you get down to it. Why not play up all things related to the real NFL Draft? Its fun.
Lol.  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 11:29 am : link
Ok.
Just FYI  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 12:34 pm : link
two reminder emails have been sent to NYG27
TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
yatqb : 4/5/2017 12:49 pm : link
initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.
RE: TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/5/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13418230 yatqb said:
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initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.


Kevin's pick makes more sense in that context.
I know we didn't officially start yet  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2017 2:43 pm : link
but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...
RE: I know we didn't officially start yet  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13418456 SirYesSir said:
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but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...


Me either. It doesn't take that long to periodically check BBI on your phone to see what pick we are up to now that the thread is pinned at the top of the board.
RE: TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 2:52 pm : link
yatqb said:
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initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.
I think Taylor was the ninth pick in 1998, but that's still a good point. Also, Coughlin picked James Stewart at #19 three years earlier - the second draft choice he ever made, after Boselli.
Coughlin built some really good teams in Jacksonville  
Go Terps : 4/5/2017 4:28 pm : link
He had some physical monsters on those teams. The Henderson/Stroud combo in the middle of the defense was scary.
RE: Coughlin built some really good teams in Jacksonville  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13418666 Go Terps said:
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He had some physical monsters on those teams. The Henderson/Stroud combo in the middle of the defense was scary.


Henderson alone was scary
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I know we didn't officially start yet  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13418466 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13418456 SirYesSir said:


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but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...



Me either. It doesn't take that long to periodically check BBI on your phone to see what pick we are up to now that the thread is pinned at the top of the board.
Count me surprised and disappointed too. Some of the owners at the top of the list have been on BBI, they couldn't possibly have missed these threads.
BBB, thanks for the correction.  
yatqb : 4/5/2017 5:15 pm : link
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Been tied up at work  
NYG27 : 4/5/2017 5:17 pm : link
Will get in the Titans pick within the hour.
I wanted to draft OJ Howard with the Titans 18th overall pick  
NYG27 : 4/5/2017 5:33 pm : link
but honestly, I don't see Howard dropping that far.

With Delanie Walker turning 33 years old in August and only signed till next year, OJ Howard would be the perfect compliment. Both Walker and Howard would be killer for two TE formations and giving Marcus Mariota more weapons in the passing game.
Left the BPA  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 5:53 pm : link
on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.
RE: Left the BPA  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13418753 Jon in NYC said:
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on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.


Didn't consider QB at all?
RE: RE: Left the BPA  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13418810 est1986 said:
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In comment 13418753 Jon in NYC said:


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on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.



Didn't consider QB at all?


Not even a little bit. Think I'll have a good chance of someone in the 2nd.
Chargers take Solomon Thomas  
armstead98 : 4/5/2017 10:34 pm : link
I was expecting to take Malik Hooker but Thomas was too good to pass up. Thomas and Bosa provide the best young DEs in the league.

Definitely value over need here.
RE: Chargers take Solomon Thomas  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13418995 armstead98 said:
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I was expecting to take Malik Hooker but Thomas was too good to pass up. Thomas and Bosa provide the best young DEs in the league.

Definitely value over need here.


Makes sense depending on how you had both of them ranked. I personally don't have Thomas on a higher tier than Hooker, but if you do I can see why you did what you did.

On a separate matter, hopefully we can pick up the pace a bit.
emails have been sent to  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 3:02 am : link
armstead98
sorry...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 3:48 am : link
I meant FatMan...
I have to head to the airport in about 2hrs...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 7:55 am : link
And will be out of pocket the rest of the day... But I will send reminder emails to the next 5 GMs or so to hopefully keep the ball rolling...

If there is someone I can send my picks to just in case FatMan doesnt make his in the next two hours, pleas let me know...

Thanks
Geez...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2017 8:07 am : link
the Panthers were thinking they could grab one of 4 guys and all were off the board at 8. John Ross provides speed, but that's a reach at #8.
MattG your on the clock  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:25 am : link
...
10th pick is made  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:36 am : link
number 11 is on the clock!!!!
RE: 10th pick is made  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:36 am : link
In comment 13419150 superspynyg said:
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number 11 is on the clock!!!!



I was afraid that Cincy would take Williams to pair with Green but in the end I get my man!!! Welcome to Buffalo Mike Williams!!!
Was really tempted to take Mitchell Trubisky to sit behind Drew Bree's  
Saos1n : 4/6/2017 9:02 am : link
For a few years or Malik Hooker, due to pure talent but I couldn't pass up on bringing the hammer to a defense that needs an identity...
On the field, I liked Foster more than any Alabama LB under Saban...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 9:13 am : link
But he scares me a bit off the field... Not that I haven't rolled the dice before ;) But after I saw that he signed with Malki Kawa... He's bad news, IMO...
Now we are cooking with Crisco!  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 9:27 am : link
4 picks before mine with 4 players on my short list. It is going to be tight unless one of the upcoming teams helps me out. Should be around today so when I get on the clock I will try to make my pick promptly.
In real life..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2017 9:34 am : link
if the Panthers are faced with this same draft board, I think they would go with Foster, especially with Thomas Davis getting older and Kuechley's concussion history, but if they had outside speed (like a consistent Ted Ginn), that's going to be valuable too.
I think it is a fair pick for Carolina  
English Alaister : 4/6/2017 9:50 am : link
Ross will definitely give Cam and the current receivers more space to operate
This feels like a deep draft at the top now that I'm  
NoGainDayne : 4/6/2017 10:51 am : link
Seeing it unfold especially. No QBs taken, Hooker still out there. Even Ross who you might see as a little high is a good fit for the panthers and a guy I definitely like more than darrius heyward bey who went at 7
Tough pick here for Cleveland  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 11:24 am : link
Not wild about these QBs and some top 10 talent still sitting here at other positions.
RE: Tough pick here for Cleveland  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13419343 Lionhart28 said:
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Not wild about these QBs and some top 10 talent still sitting here at other positions.


Do like Marc Ross and flip a coin. Or have Mara make a pick from the Kentucky Derby.
Couldnt pass on the best player available  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 11:56 am : link
(without character flags)

and that's Hooker. Kid has unbelievable, range, instincts and ball skills. I can't wait to see this kid as a pro. Didn't play a whole lot at OSU, but my goodness can he do it all. The first step in turning around Cleveland's abysmal pass defense.
Does Arizona get  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2017 12:25 pm : link
Palmer's replacement or Fitzgerald's?
The way this is playing out  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2017 1:02 pm : link
Cleveland could get a QB in round 2.
RE: Does Arizona get  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13419426 DCPollaro said:
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Palmer's replacement or Fitzgerald's?


I think what you need more is insurance if anything should happen to David Johnson. Or you can throw darts. :)

BBDTS  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 1:09 pm : link
Shhhh, don't jinx it.

Interesting thing about this draft is that there are some good teams who need a QB...

Arizona, Denver, Houston. Arguably NYG, Pittsburgh, KC, New Orleans
Didn't Cleveland Have A 'Hooker' Previously?  
Trainmaster : 4/6/2017 1:14 pm : link
If I recall correctly, they had "Fair Hooker", which led to one of my favorite Dandy Dan Meredith's lines, "Fair Hooker; I've never met one." Or something like that.
RE: BBDTS  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13419491 Lionhart28 said:
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Shhhh, don't jinx it.

Interesting thing about this draft is that there are some good teams who need a QB...

Arizona, Denver, Houston. Arguably NYG, Pittsburgh, KC, New Orleans


I am the GM for Pittsburg... I might be interested in the top QB if he is still there especially because Ben Roethlisberger is threatening retirement.
I am sure Cleveland has plenty of Hookers  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 1:36 pm : link
What a gross play though...

I just wish that Arizona would make a decision  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 1:40 pm : link
Because we are nearing my pick and I would like to select :)
pick is now in for Arizona  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2017 1:58 pm : link
had to take care of some work things

Ultimately went with Corey Davis as I may be able to get a QB later on

sorry mike for taking your guy :)
I am a big  
Amtoft : 4/6/2017 1:59 pm : link
Corey Davis fan. I think he is the top WR in this draft.
RE: pick is now in for Arizona  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13419554 DCPollaro said:
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had to take care of some work things

Ultimately went with Corey Davis as I may be able to get a QB later on

sorry mike for taking your guy :)


He was on my short list (along with Hooker) when I posted that there were 4 names on my list. Hooker-Player X-Davis-Player Y
I have 3 players in my top 11 left, but  
Amtoft : 4/6/2017 2:03 pm : link
they will be gone and it gets muddy after that. Honestly as players come off... If a top QB doesn't get taken I may take one. Would be crazy to see that happen though.
Thank you Chris  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 3:13 pm : link
By making the selection that you did it guarantees that Player X and/or Player Y will make it to me
I had 4 players...  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2017 3:16 pm : link
that I was weighing for this pick. One I expected to be gone, but I don't necessarily think he would be the best fit. One I think would be a good fit but has some baggage, and one I think is a great prospect but will be a lesser pro than Conley. Conley is the kind of CB the Eagles have historically liked and Schwartz will want. The Eagles have nothing at the position now and Conley will start from day one.
The Colts are just a brutal franchise  
Go Terps : 4/6/2017 4:07 pm : link
Take a look at their depth chart...hideous. This is a team with absolutely no direction.

I really thought about taking Dalvin Cook, but the off field stuff is scary.
RE: The Colts are just a brutal franchise  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13419723 Go Terps said:
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Take a look at their depth chart...hideous. This is a team with absolutely no direction.

I really thought about taking Dalvin Cook, but the off field stuff is scary.


Drafting a whole bunch of fast WR's and nothing else will do that to you. Nice pick with Humphrey though. Had the 4 highest rated players on my board gone in the 4 picks before mine then my fallback was probably going to be Humphrey
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 4:19 pm : link
I knew when John Ross and Mike Williams both went in the Top 10 that Corey Davis was not going to fall to me. Ravens are in need of edge rushers on Defense for their 3-4 scheme so I was happy to land Barnett
3 of the 4...  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2017 4:36 pm : link
players I was looking at were Conley, Humphrey, and Barnett. I went with the one that I think is the player they would really pick.
.  
Go Terps : 4/6/2017 4:40 pm : link
If I did what I thought Irsay would do I would just pop a Percocet and get into a Twitter fight with Adam Schefter.
RE: The Colts are just a brutal franchise  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13419723 Go Terps said:
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Take a look at their depth chart...hideous. This is a team with absolutely no direction.

I really thought about taking Dalvin Cook, but the off field stuff is scary.


My question to you is if you knew he would be the pro that Jackrabbit has become (remember he dropped in the draft due to off the field issues, and has not had any issues since joining the league [knock on wood]) would you still not pick Cook?
BigBlue  
Go Terps : 4/6/2017 5:24 pm : link
If I knew before the fact that a guy with a checkered past would succeed, then yeah I would draft him. But we don't know it with Cook one way or the other.

Why take the risk when there are similarly talented players without the baggage also available?

RE: .  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2017 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13419752 Go Terps said:
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If I did what I thought Irsay would do I would just pop a Percocet and get into a Twitter fight with Adam Schefter.


I might do that anyway!
Washington pick coming soon  
SirYesSir : 4/6/2017 9:56 pm : link
just making a final choice here
RE: Washington pick coming soon  
Chris in Philly : 4/6/2017 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13420000 SirYesSir said:
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just making a final choice here


May I suggest the 47th ranked kicker?
RE: RE: Washington pick coming soon  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13420007 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 13420000 SirYesSir said:


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just making a final choice here



May I suggest the 47th ranked kicker?


With all of the injuries to Long Snappers lately, that would be more helpful.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/6/2017 10:37 pm : link
Titans are on the clock
Loving my Titans draft so far addressing both sides of the ball  
NYG27 : 4/6/2017 11:49 pm : link
OJ Howard with my 5th overall pick giving the Titans another playmaker in the passing game. Not to mention the perfect replacement for 33 year old Delanie Walker in two years when his contract expires.

Then coming around with my 18th overall pick to address the defense with perhaps the most athletically gifted pass rusher in the draft with Haason Reddick!
Matt sending you a 6 player board for Cowboys pick at number 28  
Rick in Dallas : 4/7/2017 7:35 am : link
I will be out of pocket this weekend. Thanks Matt.
Denver is standing by  
jlukes : 4/7/2017 8:02 am : link
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People keep using that expression.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 8:30 am : link
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I will be out of pocket this weekend.
I do not think it means what they think it means.

Nice work by all GMs so far. Hard to argue with any of the picks, though I'm not sure I understand CiP's logic with Conley over Humphrey.

Apparently, Dalvin Cook at 23 isn't so far-fetched after all. Does he offer enough "special" for NYG to look past his medical and legal issues if he's still on the board?
No secret Broncos need a LT, but there is other talent on the board  
jlukes : 4/7/2017 8:37 am : link
that I have ranked higher than the LTs in this draft. Tough spot
2 more to go before the pick  
YAJ2112 : 4/7/2017 8:44 am : link
and I like 3 players for the Lions. Nice spot to be in.
RE: People keep using that expression.  
Chris in Philly : 4/7/2017 8:57 am : link
In comment 13420249 Big Blue Blogger said:
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I will be out of pocket this weekend.

I do not think it means what they think it means.

Nice work by all GMs so far. Hard to argue with any of the picks, though I'm not sure I understand CiP's logic with Conley over Humphrey.

Apparently, Dalvin Cook at 23 isn't so far-fetched after all. Does he offer enough "special" for NYG to look past his medical and legal issues if he's still on the board?


I think the Eagles view Conley as a higher upside guy, he's been skyrocketing up charts, and there is a lot of smoke around here about them being very interested in him. Like I said, when I have a handful of choices I try to do what I think the team would really do.
One thing that persists in the BBI mock draft  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2017 9:05 am : link
OL are almost always undervalued. I fall into some great picks almost every year (Unger, Solder, Frederick, Iupati, Collins*, Stanley, etc). Looks like I will have my pick of top OL's again despite the teams yet to pick having a clear need at OL.
RE: One thing that persists in the BBI mock draft  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 9:12 am : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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OL are almost always undervalued. I fall into some great picks almost every year (Unger, Solder, Frederick, Iupati, Collins*, Stanley, etc). Looks like I will have my pick of top OL's again despite the teams yet to pick having a clear need at OL.
Good old Andy, blowing smoke to distract us from his inability to resist a Miami TE if the draft gods offer one up at #23.

Seriously, though - all of the top linemen in this class seem to have issues that would justify steering clear of them in the first half of Round One. Do you see the next Tyron Smith on the board?
RE: RE: One thing that persists in the BBI mock draft  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2017 9:30 am : link
In comment 13420307 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Andy in Halifax said:

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OL are almost always undervalued. I fall into some great picks almost every year (Unger, Solder, Frederick, Iupati, Collins*, Stanley, etc). Looks like I will have my pick of top OL's again despite the teams yet to pick having a clear need at OL.

Good old Andy, blowing smoke to distract us from his inability to resist a Miami TE if the draft gods offer one up at #23.

Seriously, though - all of the top linemen in this class seem to have issues that would justify steering clear of them in the first half of Round One. Do you see the next Tyron Smith on the board?


I think Bolles has that upside. If not for the fact that the Ravens took Stanley at #6 last year and the fact that Barnett was there with my pick, Bolles would have merited serious consideration for the Ravens.
add QB to the position that  
DCPollaro : 4/7/2017 9:47 am : link
always falls as well. a little unrealistic
Personally, I like to take a detailed look at my team's depth roster  
NYG27 : 4/7/2017 9:55 am : link
I don't like to force a pick and go with BPA but if there are a few players I think are ranked equally, I lean towards what would help with my team needs.

That's the direction I went with my Titans selections.
RE: add QB to the position that  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/7/2017 9:57 am : link
In comment 13420369 DCPollaro said:
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always falls as well. a little unrealistic


I was thinking that as well. No way do the Jets come up to pick with all the Qbs on the board and not chose the top rated guy. That's just how they would pick because they are clueless.
RE: add QB to the position that  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2017 11:00 am : link
In comment 13420369 DCPollaro said:
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always falls as well. a little unrealistic

Agree!
RE: RE: RE: One thing that persists in the BBI mock draft  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2017 11:23 am : link
In comment 13420342 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13420307 Big Blue Blogger said:


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Andy in Halifax said:

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OL are almost always undervalued. I fall into some great picks almost every year (Unger, Solder, Frederick, Iupati, Collins*, Stanley, etc). Looks like I will have my pick of top OL's again despite the teams yet to pick having a clear need at OL.

Good old Andy, blowing smoke to distract us from his inability to resist a Miami TE if the draft gods offer one up at #23.

Seriously, though - all of the top linemen in this class seem to have issues that would justify steering clear of them in the first half of Round One. Do you see the next Tyron Smith on the board?



I think Bolles has that upside. If not for the fact that the Ravens took Stanley at #6 last year and the fact that Barnett was there with my pick, Bolles would have merited serious consideration for the Ravens.



You may like Bolles in the top half of the first round, and that's fine, but very few mocks would have him gone by now. I don't see anything happening in this draft to O Linemen that isn't reflected in almost all credible online mocks I've seen
RE: Loving my Titans draft so far addressing both sides of the ball  
Jay on the Island : 4/7/2017 11:26 am : link
In comment 13420119 NYG27 said:
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OJ Howard with my 5th overall pick giving the Titans another playmaker in the passing game. Not to mention the perfect replacement for 33 year old Delanie Walker in two years when his contract expires.

Then coming around with my 18th overall pick to address the defense with perhaps the most athletically gifted pass rusher in the draft with Haason Reddick!


Damn you! I wanted Reddick at 19. Great pick buddy.
RE: RE: Loving my Titans draft so far addressing both sides of the ball  
Lionhart28 : 4/7/2017 11:42 am : link
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Damn you! I wanted Reddick at 19. Great pick buddy.


So I went back to look at the combine for both Reddick and Garrett. What freak athletes in totally different bodies.

Event (Pos. Rank) MG HR
Ht- 6'4" | 6'1"
Wt- 272 | 237
Arms- 35 1/4" | 32 3/4
40- 4.64(5) | 4.52(1)
Vert- 41(1) | 36.5(3)
Broad- 10'8"(2) | 11'1"(1)
Bench- 33(2) | 24(<15)
S-Shuttle- - | 4.37(10)
3-cone- - | 7.01(7)

Those are some damned explosive athletes. It doesn't look like Garrett did the shuttles or 3 cone. I'd be curious about his results at that size.
God there were so many guys I liked, especially on the  
jlukes : 4/7/2017 12:00 pm : link
defensive side of the ball, but the truth is that Ramczyk was just too good of a fit for Denver to pass up.

New coach Vance Joseph is implementing more of a power blocking scheme, so Ramczyk is a better fit than Bolles. We see Bolles as a better fit for a team that uses a zone blocking scheme.
Jay on the Island: Nice pick (Takk McKinley).  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 12:02 pm : link
Clear need, decent value. Minor question: Why McKinley over Charlton? Not disagreeing, just wondering about your preference for one over the other.
A bit of draft trivia, inspired by the selection of Ramczyk at #20:  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 12:18 pm : link
Twenty years have passed since no quarterback was selected in the first round of the NFL draft. How bad was the QB class of 1997? Mike Cherry was the fifth quarterback to come off the board, to the Giants at #171. His career comprised four kneel-downs, a sack and an incompletion.

BTW, Ramczyk is a good pick for Denver. The question there is whether any member of the 2017 QB class would offer a likely upgrade over Siemian/Lynch.
jlukes made me eat my words  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2017 12:20 pm : link
Nice pick, you likely got the #1 OL in the draft at 20.
Well  
Boatie Warrant : 4/7/2017 12:29 pm : link
This is shaping up to be a no brainer when my pick comes around
RE: A bit of draft trivia, inspired by the selection of Ramczyk at #20:  
Chris in Philly : 4/7/2017 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13420579 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Twenty years have passed since no quarterback was selected in the first round of the NFL draft. How bad was the QB class of 1997? Mike Cherry was the fifth quarterback to come off the board, to the Giants at #171. His career comprised four kneel-downs, a sack and an incompletion.

BTW, Ramczyk is a good pick for Denver. The question there is whether any member of the 2017 QB class would offer a likely upgrade over Siemian/Lynch.


Oh, but what an incompletion!
Dolphins are ready at 22  
Optimus-NY : 4/7/2017 12:34 pm : link
I've got my eyes on one guy mongos...
RE: Well  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 12:52 pm : link
Boatie Warrant said:
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This is shaping up to be a no brainer when my pick comes around
Don't count your Trubiskies just yet, Houston. Miami can move on from Tannehill pretty painlessly in 2018.
Actually, meant to say twenty years since no QB in the top 20.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 12:56 pm : link
Druckenmiller was the 26th pick in 1997. The previous year, the first QB taken was Tony Banks at #42.
RE: Jay on the Island: Nice pick (Takk McKinley).  
Jay on the Island : 4/7/2017 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13420559 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Clear need, decent value. Minor question: Why McKinley over Charlton? Not disagreeing, just wondering about your preference for one over the other.

It was a tough choice between McKinley and Njoku. I like McKinley over Charlton because of upside.
I guess the Lions are waiting for word from the team orthopedist...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 1:06 pm : link
...about Ameer Abdullah's foot. Taco Charlton would be a nice bookend for Ziggy Ansah, and Zach Cunningham balances value with need. There's also Stafford's contract situation to consider. But Dalvin Cook has to be pretty tempting at #21.
fuck you Redskins  
SHO'NUFF : 4/7/2017 1:31 pm : link
thank you Broncos
IMHO as a die hard NYG fan  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 1:40 pm : link
It would be Cook or bust for me at this point... I'd give up a third or fourth to move up ahead of Detroit. Not so worried about Miami.. feel like Detroit might take our guy. Cook is the real fucking deal. If one of those top 3 RBs fall this far I would love to see us jump on them unless they really like a few guys at this point, knowing they will get one of their guys staying pat at 23.
RE: RE: Well  
Boatie Warrant : 4/7/2017 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13420606 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Boatie Warrant said:

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This is shaping up to be a no brainer when my pick comes around

Don't count your Trubiskies just yet, Houston. Miami can move on from Tannehill pretty painlessly in 2018.


True, but still plenty of options at my positionS of need.
Indeed Cook was too tempting to pass on  
YAJ2112 : 4/7/2017 1:55 pm : link
Was between him, Taco, and Njoku. Detroit's strength needs to be their offense, and they desparately need a playmaking RB to bring their offense to the next level.
F*** you  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 1:55 pm : link
Detroit!
If this happens like this it could be  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 1:57 pm : link
Tribusky..
RE: Indeed Cook was too tempting to pass on  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13420691 YAJ2112 said:
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Was between him, Taco, and Njoku. Detroit's strength needs to be their offense, and they desparately need a playmaking RB to bring their offense to the next level.


Great Pick.. best one so far IMO
I was just scouting  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 2:15 pm : link
Forrest Lamp for my pick at 24. I think he can play OT. I know the talk about his arms, but I look at it this way. He is in between Joe Thomas and Justin Pugh at LT. He has slightly longer arms than Pugh and slightly shorter than Thomas. He is slightly fast than Pugh and slightly slower than Thomas. I think Pugh was ok at OT not horrible and worst case Lamp can slide into OG and excel there. That being said I think he is the third best LT prospect in this draft. Not sold on him only being an OG.
Giants On The Clock  
Trainmaster : 4/7/2017 2:16 pm : link
who is "best available"?

Lamp was a no-brainer for me and the Fish at 22.  
Optimus-NY : 4/7/2017 2:18 pm : link
Lamp is a "clean" player to use a Reese-ism. The guy is the best overall OL prospect in this year's draft. Hes technically sound, mature, young (lol at Grampa Bolles), versatile and intent on being a true professional (he's a film junkie). What's not to like? He also fits a YUUUUGE need for the Fish at 22 with regard to need. They have two good OTs and a fine Center. They're in desperate need of quality at the OG position. Lamp fulfills that need, and some.
RE: Giants On The Clock  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13420711 Trainmaster said:
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who is "best available"?


There are a number of players who I would probably rank similarly still on the board. Not sure Andy can go wrong with any of them.
We all know  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 2:21 pm : link
Andy can't resist a Miami TE when he sees one... aint that right Andy!
I Didn't See A Summary Posted, So I Copied & Pasted  
Trainmaster : 4/7/2017 2:24 pm : link
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1. Cleveland - Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
2. San Francisco - S Jamal Adams
3. Chicago - DL Jonathan Allen out of Alabama )
4. Jacksonville - Leonard Fournette,RB, LSU
5. Tennessee - TE O'Terrius Jabari "O.J." Howard, Alabama
6. New York Jets - Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
7. Los Angeles Chargers - DL Solomon Thomas
8. Carolina - John Ross, WR Washington
9. Cincinnati - Jabrill Peppers, SS, Michigan
10. Buffalo - MIKE WILLIAMS WR Clemson
11. New Orleans - LB Reuben Foster
12. Cleveland - Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State
13. Arizona - WR, Corey Davis, Western Michigan
14. Philadelphia - CB Gareon Conley, The Ohio State University
15. Indianapolis - CB Marlon Humphrey out of Alabama
16. Baltimore - DEREK BARNETT/EDGE/TENNESSEE
17. Washington - HB - Christian McCaffery - Stanford
18. Tennessee - DE/LB Haason Reddick, Temple
19. Tampa Bay - OLB Takkarist McKinley, OLB UCLA
20. Denver - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
21. Detroit - Dalvin Cook, RB, FSU
22. Miami - Forrest Lamp, OG, Western Kentucky
23. New York Giants __________)


QB?
TE?
OL?
CB?

Hmmmm...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 2:25 pm : link
does that mean the Raiders with Carr already at QB take Mitch Trubisky? I mean no way he lasts this long and I would look like a genius when he gets picked top 10... Of course unless I trade Carr or Trubisky this pick wouldn't make any sense. Then again I don't want someone taking him and getting the credit of a good pick this late... Hmmmm what to do.
Pretty good spot for the Giants to be in  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2017 2:29 pm : link
if this actually came through. Bolles, Njoku, Mahomes, and Cunningham all on the board. I honestly think I'd go Mahomes, but could justify any of the above 4.
RE: Pretty good spot for the Giants to be in  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13420735 Jon in NYC said:
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if this actually came through. Bolles, Njoku, Mahomes, and Cunningham all on the board. I honestly think I'd go Mahomes, but could justify any of the above 4.


Mahomes over Trubisky? Come on man!
Honestly and I hate to say this  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 2:35 pm : link
because he is the top non QB on my board. If you want to fix the running game... take Cam Robinson.
For me with Denver I also considered  
jlukes : 4/7/2017 2:46 pm : link
McDowell, Charlton and Davis
If this happens  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 2:57 pm : link
Bolles OR Cunningham is my GUESS
RE: We all know  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13420724 Amtoft said:
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Andy can't resist a Miami TE when he sees one... aint that right Andy!
Hey! I was just ahead of my time... now the Patriots use the 2TE sets to great success. Or something like that.
How is it that no one has remarked about Peppers going #9?  
RobCarpenter : 4/7/2017 2:59 pm : link
That's the biggest surprise to me in this mock so far.
RE: How is it that no one has remarked about Peppers going #9?  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13420776 RobCarpenter said:
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That's the biggest surprise to me in this mock so far.


Wish he was available at 23. If we said he was a top 10 pick 6 months ago, no one would have been surprised.
RE: We all know  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 3:03 pm : link
Amtoft said:
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Andy can't resist a Miami TE when he sees one... ain't that right Andy!
Yup, just plug him in next to Shockey and KW II. Unstoppable!

Back to reality...

BPA on most draftnik boards would be Trubisky: #12 on CBS, #11 on GBN, #10 on nfl.com). After that, there's Watson Watson (17/17/35), Njoku (20/24/13), Charlton (24/26/12) and McDowell (23/31/17), among others.
RE: RE: How is it that no one has remarked about Peppers going #9?  
RobCarpenter : 4/7/2017 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13420780 est1986 said:
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In comment 13420776 RobCarpenter said:


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That's the biggest surprise to me in this mock so far.



Wish he was available at 23. If we said he was a top 10 pick 6 months ago, no one would have been surprised.


In the actual draft I think he's on the board when the Giants pick.
I'm shocked. Shocked!!!  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 3:05 pm : link
Njoku to the Giants. Andy being Andy.

Honestly, it's a good pick, though I'd have taken Charlton.
I would have ran to the podium to draft Cook  
Andy in Halifax : 4/7/2017 3:06 pm : link
but Njoku is a nice TE prospect and we sure as f#@k need one of those. Kid would thrive down the seam in our offense (imo).
Not mad at the Njoku pick if thats what it is  
est1986 : 4/7/2017 3:18 pm : link


But thats my TV if Cook falls into the 20s but not to the GMen.
RE: RE: We all know  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13420774 Andy in Halifax said:
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In comment 13420724 Amtoft said:


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Andy can't resist a Miami TE when he sees one... aint that right Andy!

Hey! I was just ahead of my time... now the Patriots use the 2TE sets to great success. Or something like that.


Where do you think Belichek got the idea... He was like damn... Andy knows what's up!
Andy I like the pick  
Torrag : 4/7/2017 3:54 pm : link
Only 20 years old and a freakish athlete. Huge upside. Like Godzilla huge.
Sorry - accidentally posted a comment on the selections thread.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/7/2017 4:06 pm : link
Anyway, can we just send Trubisky to Houston and get on with the rest of Round One?
RE: Sorry - accidentally posted a comment on the selections thread.  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13420826 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Anyway, can we just send Trubisky to Houston and get on with the rest of Round One?


Who knows as they may prefer the local guy in Pat Mahomes Jr. or the more pro ready Deshaun Watson. There are plenty of other non-QB's who would make sense for Houston although I will refrain from naming names as some of them are players I like!
My top two for the Giants there were...  
Torrag : 4/7/2017 4:11 pm : link
...Davis, Njoku and Watson in the top remaining row.
Went with Cam Robinson...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2017 4:23 pm : link
I had 3 players I was looking at. Trubisky who is very accurate and apparently very underrated. With Carr being so young I just couldn't pull the trigger though. Someone is going to get a steal with him.

The other pick I was looking at was LT Bolles. It isn't so much his age that bothers me, but that he needs to really work on his strength. I don't think I could put him at RT this year and have him be as successful as Cam Robinson would be. However, long term Bolles would have taken over for Penn in a year or 2 so I am probably making a mistake. Bolles has great feet and if he was 23 with a little more time working on his strength he is a top 10 pick easy.

Cam Robinson is either underrated, being knocked down because of Fluker, or the criminal stuff is scaring people away. If he gets a hold of you... you are going for a ride!

RE: Went with Cam Robinson...  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2017 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13420846 Amtoft said:
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I had 3 players I was looking at. Trubisky who is very accurate and apparently very underrated. With Carr being so young I just couldn't pull the trigger though. Someone is going to get a steal with him.

The other pick I was looking at was LT Bolles. It isn't so much his age that bothers me, but that he needs to really work on his strength. I don't think I could put him at RT this year and have him be as successful as Cam Robinson would be. However, long term Bolles would have taken over for Penn in a year or 2 so I am probably making a mistake. Bolles has great feet and if he was 23 with a little more time working on his strength he is a top 10 pick easy.

Cam Robinson is either underrated, being knocked down because of Fluker, or the criminal stuff is scaring people away. If he gets a hold of you... you are going for a ride!


Robinson scares me because the footwork is sloppy like Flowers. He can overpower guys in college, but that won't work in the NFL. Also has concerns about effort.
Sorry I'm late  
Glover : 4/7/2017 5:03 pm : link
but 2 of the 3 teams ahead of the Giants taking O Linemen I think is a reflection of the very popular BBI idea that there are no first round linemen who are worth the 23rd pick, and thats what Giants fans here want to happen. Also a lot of defensive players drafted. I love Njoku, but here better be an O lineman who can compete for a job in the second round they have their eyes on.
that can compete for a job in the second round ...  
Torrag : 4/7/2017 5:21 pm : link
...there are several. Dawkins, Moton, Dorian Johnson, Feeney. 3rd round. Roderick Johnson, Antonio Garcia, Pocic. Frankly I don't see much difference between these guys and the purported '1st Rounders' this year.
Sorry for the delay  
Boatie Warrant : 4/7/2017 8:52 pm : link
Was out for duaghters birthday dinner.

Trubisky was an easy choice. Texans don't need Rodgers, Farve, Young or Brees; They need a Simms. Consistant and a competitor. A guy who is even-keeled.
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/7/2017 9:29 pm : link
OL would've been the obvious choice but I couldn't pass on King. This is the prototypical Seattle CB. Tall, long arms and he has speed with freakish measurables, another Seahawk staple. LOB hasn't been the same since Browner left and with Schneider being so open with Sherman being on the block, I had to make this move. However WITH Sherman and a healthy Earl Thomas back, LOB would be back.

King wouldn't have to go far from college. He also has allowed only 1 TD in the past 28 games with none given up last year.

KC is on the clock
RE: Seattle's pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2017 11:46 pm : link
In comment 13421044 sjnyfan said:
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OL would've been the obvious choice but I couldn't pass on King. This is the prototypical Seattle CB. Tall, long arms and he has speed with freakish measurables, another Seahawk staple. LOB hasn't been the same since Browner left and with Schneider being so open with Sherman being on the block, I had to make this move. However WITH Sherman and a healthy Earl Thomas back, LOB would be back.

King wouldn't have to go far from college. He also has allowed only 1 TD in the past 28 games with none given up last year.

KC is on the clock


King does seem like someone the Seahawks would target and makes sense late in Round 1. I also thought the UConn S would be someone that Seattle could target. Now with KC up it will be interested to see if they grab Mahomes or Watson and let that QB sit behind Alex Smith, add some youth at LB with Charlton, Cunningham, and Davis all on the board, or go in a totally different direction.
Emailed KC  
Matt G : 4/8/2017 5:27 am : link
And I have DAL's pick...
Chiefs  
English Alaister : 4/8/2017 6:19 am : link
Take the LB Cunningham from Vanderbilt. Thought about Watson at QB but Smith still has a lot of tread left and maybe his best football to come.

Cunningham gives the Chiefs an athletic play-making LB to take over from Derrick Johnson and let Houston worry about going forward.
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/8/2017 7:22 am : link
unfortunately, I don't have time to write much more than CB is where I wanted to go and Awuzie fits the bill very well.
Pics in  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/8/2017 8:12 am : link
Pittsburgh after losing Lawerence Timmons to FA and having an aging James Harrison needs to reload their outside LBs. Williams is a great pass rusher when used to do so. I could have went CB or S as the Steelers could use the help there; however, the Steelers are like the Giants they rely heavy upon a pass rush to generate coverage sacks and this draft is loaded with CBs, though it seems there has been a run on them in our draft.
RE: Pics in  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2017 8:22 am : link
In comment 13421266 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Pittsburgh after losing Lawerence Timmons to FA and having an aging James Harrison needs to reload their outside LBs. Williams is a great pass rusher when used to do so. I could have went CB or S as the Steelers could use the help there; however, the Steelers are like the Giants they rely heavy upon a pass rush to generate coverage sacks and this draft is loaded with CBs, though it seems there has been a run on them in our draft.


Williams is a pass rusher, but the off field questions concern me
I seriously considered McDowell for the Pack  
MadPlaid : 4/8/2017 1:19 pm : link
But kept reading things about immaturity and laziness. I felt he was too much of a risk. When I read about Awuzie, I liked what was being said about his versatility and effectiveness in coverage. They said he was capable of starting right away. Perfect for Green Bay
Interesting selection of Kizer  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2017 1:33 pm : link
Before Mahomes or Watson. I guess someone believes in Sy's rankings.
Really tough call on  
NoGainDayne : 4/8/2017 1:43 pm : link
McDowell. All the talent in the world. You just hope for maturation. A guy like Vic Beasley could be a great mentor to him and an improved Falcons line with McDowell playing up to his potential makes a team that's tough to beat even scarier.
RE: Interesting selection of Kizer  
Saos1n : 4/8/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13421459 Mike in NY said:
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Before Mahomes or Watson. I guess someone believes in Sy's rankings.


I do... Trubisky #1 and Kizer #2...

5th year option on a QB was an important factor for this selection as well...

Let him sit behind Brees and soak up all the knowledge
I don't see it with Kizer  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2017 6:26 pm : link
All the potential in the world but I didn't see him make as many plays as I would like for a early round QB. My personal rankings are Watson, Trubisky, Mahomes, Kizer.
RE: I don't see it with Kizer  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13421593 Lionhart28 said:
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All the potential in the world but I didn't see him make as many plays as I would like for a early round QB. My personal rankings are Watson, Trubisky, Mahomes, Kizer.


I like your draft so far for Cleveland
With so many picks  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2017 7:05 pm : link
Cleveland is gonna have to work really hard to fuck this up. If they followed
T guidance they could have had a threesome of Derek Carr, Allen Robinson and Jeremy Hill. But oh well
Just my opinion, but after round 1  
SirYesSir : 4/8/2017 8:23 pm : link
I'd make these comments

Best Value: Taco Charlton, pick 28 to Dallas. Maybe I think more of him than most, but he had a really great year and there aren't many guys with his combo of size/speed/power in this draft. I would think a team would be thrilled to get a guy like him that late.

Biggest Reach: With all due respect, just my opinion, but Takk McKinley to the Bucs at 19. Impressive athlete, but has very little feel for the game or skills other than raw ability. In the Sunday league he won't be able to get by on natural skills, and I don't see him making an impact until he learns some moves and techniques he should have learned by now.

Biggest Surprise: Jabrill Peppers to the Bengals at pick 9. That's really high for a safety, but even more surprising that his position might not really be set yet. He only has one career interception. As a GM I'd have a hard time hanging my hat on a guy that can do a lot of things pretty well, but is probably most admired as a kick returner.

Sorry if that sounded negative, all the GMs are doing a great job - just my initial reactions
Don't like Watson  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/8/2017 8:41 pm : link
I love his character, but he's got way to many red flags. He comes from a gimmick uptempo offense, lacks arm strength, and throws way to many pics.

Again I really hope I am wrong because he is someone you can root for.
RE: Don't like Watson  
Lionhart28 : 4/8/2017 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13421651 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I love his character, but he's got way to many red flags. He comes from a gimmick uptempo offense, lacks arm strength, and throws way to many pics.

Again I really hope I am wrong because he is someone you can root for.


He's definitely not without warts but I'm not worried about his arm strength. He can make throws. In a wset coast offense, with his movement skills and intangibles he could be good. Most of these kids today run up tempo offenses, some more gimmicky than others. they all have some learning to do. Mahomes especially on that front . He also has a lot more games played and wins than Trubisky.. happy to get a player like him in the 2nd after two defensive studs.
49ers pick is in and  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/9/2017 7:12 am : link
years from now Mahomes has a good chance of being the best quarterback of the class. Although he is difficult to figure out, he has, by far, the strongest arm of those four and a skill set relatable to some of the best quarterbacks in the league. He kind of reminds me of Derek Carr. Both have arguably the best arms in their respective classes. They can launch rockets deep down field, or they can loft throws with touch over the shoulder of their receivers in stride. That’s a skill the 49ers lacked with Colin Kaepernick. He’s raw, to be sure, but makes sense for a team with a coaching staff that’s experienced developing quarterbacks.
We are very excited to have Pat sit behind Brian Hoyer and learn the NFL game.
Everyone  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2017 7:58 am : link
Get your Kevin .gif ready!
email has been sent to Kevin  
Matt G : 4/9/2017 8:06 am : link
But yes, get ready...
The Jaguars are shocked and happy to see Bolles  
Kevin in CT : 4/9/2017 10:51 am : link
Still available for their pick in the 2nd round. Value here was way too good to pass up and he can start right away. Plays with a nasty side that Coughlin will love and Bortles too.

Happy to see him pushed down after the run on QB's. Jags are excited to potentially have two starters on the offensive side of the ball with their first two picks.
RE: The Jaguars are shocked and happy to see Bolles  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2017 10:55 am : link
In comment 13421777 Kevin in CT said:
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Still available for their pick in the 2nd round. Value here was way too good to pass up and he can start right away. Plays with a nasty side that Coughlin will love and Bortles too.

Happy to see him pushed down after the run on QB's. Jags are excited to potentially have two starters on the offensive side of the ball with their first two picks.


Figured you would go for Bolles or one of the LB's available. Bolles should not have been around at this point.
RE: The Jaguars are shocked and happy to see Bolles  
Anakim : 4/9/2017 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13421777 Kevin in CT said:
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Still available for their pick in the 2nd round. Value here was way too good to pass up and he can start right away. Plays with a nasty side that Coughlin will love and Bortles too.

Happy to see him pushed down after the run on QB's. Jags are excited to potentially have two starters on the offensive side of the ball with their first two picks.


I wanted him for the Bears. Bears have no good OTs so Bolles would've been perfect for them. Still, I'm happy with Tre'Davious White who I project to be a future starter at CB but at they very least can be a fantastic nickel right away.
Jags first two picks are great  
superspynyg : 4/9/2017 12:16 pm : link
Instant running game to open the passing game and a solid RT (at the least) for the next 8-10 years. Could also develop into a great LT.
I strongly considered Bolles for ATL  
NoGainDayne : 4/9/2017 12:50 pm : link
But the defense is what kept them from winning the Super Bowl so I went with the sky high ceiling defender. Also considered White from LSU but to me his ceiling was too low to be a first round pick although he will be a good nickle corner.
As for biggest steal I love Hooker at 12  
NoGainDayne : 4/9/2017 12:57 pm : link
I'm a big hooker guy. I think you can coach up his tackling issues and the guy just has a nose for the ball and great closing speed.

As for the reach. I'll probably eat these words because Chris in Philly always does a great job but I thought Conley went a little high.
The way this draft is falling  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2017 1:35 pm : link
I may have a situation where BPA is not at a need position in Round 2 and do I take that with the many needs of my team and a player not that far off though on a lower tier
Watts  
Jon in NYC : 4/9/2017 2:01 pm : link
a great fit for the Jets. Super raw but super productive last year and an incredibly hard worker.
Back to back picks  
Matt G : 4/9/2017 2:10 pm : link
Need to regroup my board
We may be stuck here till the AM...  
Matt G : 4/9/2017 2:55 pm : link
As FMiC typically doesn't have weekend access...
RE: We may be stuck here till the AM...  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13421960 Matt G said:
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As FMiC typically doesn't have weekend access...


Maybe he will respond to e-mail
RE: As for biggest steal I love Hooker at 12  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13421891 NoGainDayne said:
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I'm a big hooker guy. I think you can coach up his tackling issues and the guy just has a nose for the ball and great closing speed.

As for the reach. I'll probably eat these words because Chris in Philly always does a great job but I thought Conley went a little high.


NGd, I agree on Hooker. I see him as a rare prospect at FS. Unreal instincts, range and ball skills. I didn't expect him to be available at 12, no brainer for me.
I sent...  
Matt G : 4/9/2017 3:21 pm : link
Hopefully he does...
I picked..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/9/2017 3:54 pm : link
although I'm not liking the way the draft has unfolded for the Panthers. They really could've used Cunningham, but he's gone and although Alvin Kamara is an option at RB, they don't feel he can carry a heavy workload and would be best suited in a platoon scenario.

So Foreman is the guy - but probably about 20 picks too early. Same with Ross in the 1st - but they now have two playmakers.
RE: RE: As for biggest steal I love Hooker at 12  
adamg : 4/9/2017 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13421966 Lionhart28 said:
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I'm a big hooker guy. I think you can coach up his tackling issues and the guy just has a nose for the ball and great closing speed.

As for the reach. I'll probably eat these words because Chris in Philly always does a great job but I thought Conley went a little high.



NGd, I agree on Hooker. I see him as a rare prospect at FS. Unreal instincts, range and ball skills. I didn't expect him to be available at 12, no brainer for me.


Landing Garrett and Hooker is amazing. For a Browns draft that is loaded with picks, that's still a crazy haul. Add Watson at 33...

I've emailed Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2017 5:49 pm : link
Good enough for the goose, good enough for the gander. Ha!
RE: RE: RE: As for biggest steal I love Hooker at 12  
superspynyg : 4/9/2017 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13422039 adamg said:
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In comment 13421891 NoGainDayne said:


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I'm a big hooker guy. I think you can coach up his tackling issues and the guy just has a nose for the ball and great closing speed.

As for the reach. I'll probably eat these words because Chris in Philly always does a great job but I thought Conley went a little high.



NGd, I agree on Hooker. I see him as a rare prospect at FS. Unreal instincts, range and ball skills. I didn't expect him to be available at 12, no brainer for me.



Landing Garrett and Hooker is amazing. For a Browns draft that is loaded with picks, that's still a crazy haul. Add Watson at 33...



You could have 3 game 1 starters in youfirst 3 picks. We know Garrett and Hooker will start.
Pick is in...  
Matt G : 4/9/2017 6:22 pm : link
Sorry about that fellas.
Browns picks are great  
SirYesSir : 4/9/2017 8:19 pm : link
but did people expect them to NOT get three great players with picks 1, 12, and 33?
RE: Browns picks are great  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2017 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13422149 SirYesSir said:
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but did people expect them to NOT get three great players with picks 1, 12, and 33?


Bet the Browns real life picks will disappoint in some way.
The Eagles stay in their own backyard...  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2017 9:03 pm : link
and pick up a versatile bruiser to help protect Carson Wentz. The OL is in need of a rebuild and this guy is where we begin. He'll be a dominant guard, but he'll be tried outside as well to see where he fits best at the next level. Once he has his position, he's a ten year starter.
RE: The Eagles stay in their own backyard...  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2017 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13422188 Chris in Philly said:
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and pick up a versatile bruiser to help protect Carson Wentz. The OL is in need of a rebuild and this guy is where we begin. He'll be a dominant guard, but he'll be tried outside as well to see where he fits best at the next level. Once he has his position, he's a ten year starter.


Well Frank Underwood to you Chris. Dawkins was supposed to help protect Joe Flacco.
RE: Browns picks are great  
adamg : 4/9/2017 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13422149 SirYesSir said:
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but did people expect them to NOT get three great players with picks 1, 12, and 33?


It's landing Hooker that puts it over the top. Hooker is a top 3-5 talent. Watson at 33 is also a huge value.

Like I said, even with all the picks, these particular ones are impressive.
RE: RE: The Eagles stay in their own backyard...  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2017 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13422191 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13422188 Chris in Philly said:


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and pick up a versatile bruiser to help protect Carson Wentz. The OL is in need of a rebuild and this guy is where we begin. He'll be a dominant guard, but he'll be tried outside as well to see where he fits best at the next level. Once he has his position, he's a ten year starter.



Well Frank Underwood to you Chris. Dawkins was supposed to help protect Joe Flacco.


Makes sense. We just hired Joe Douglas to help run the draft so our draft boards must be similar!

It really is amazing how Temple has blossomed with real prospects. I hope they can keep it up post-Ruhle.
With all the cbs going off the board  
superspynyg : 4/10/2017 7:09 am : link
Buffalo has the ability to take a chance on a first round talent.

After talking to Dr Robert Anderson who performed Jones's surgery, and to our own medical staff, we a confident that this young man will return to play at a high level. We will not rush him back and will announce the singing of a FA Cb to fill in for this season.

We are building for the future not just 2017. Its not often you can get a first round top 10 player in rd 2. He is worth the chance.
Was ultimately down to Quincy Wilson  
DCPollaro : 4/10/2017 7:53 am : link
And Sidney Jones for Arizona
RE: Was ultimately down to Quincy Wilson  
superspynyg : 4/10/2017 8:03 am : link
In comment 13422313 DCPollaro said:
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And Sidney Jones for Arizona


Glad to see that I was not the only one thinking Jones in rd 2 is worth it
Indianapolis (Go Terps) is officially on the clock until 11am  
YAJ2112 : 4/10/2017 9:16 am : link
we're off!
RE: RE: Was ultimately down to Quincy Wilson  
Chris in Philly : 4/10/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13422317 superspynyg said:
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And Sidney Jones for Arizona



Glad to see that I was not the only one thinking Jones in rd 2 is worth it


I considered him as well. He won't slip too far. He's too good...
My pick is ready  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 9:49 am : link
Have narrowed my list down to 2 players so I should be good no matter who Indianapolis selects. That being said, have a new client scheduled to come in at 11 and if one my colleagues has not arrived by then I may be stuck having to start that so I will be a little delayed with my pick if GoTerps takes the entire allotted time
RE: My pick is ready  
superspynyg : 4/10/2017 10:08 am : link
In comment 13422388 Mike in NY said:
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Have narrowed my list down to 2 players so I should be good no matter who Indianapolis selects. That being said, have a new client scheduled to come in at 11 and if one my colleagues has not arrived by then I may be stuck having to start that so I will be a little delayed with my pick if GoTerps takes the entire allotted time


Just send your two picks (in order to MattG) if you are not able then he can make it based on the order and if both are there.
RE: RE: My pick is ready  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13422404 superspynyg said:
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In comment 13422388 Mike in NY said:


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Have narrowed my list down to 2 players so I should be good no matter who Indianapolis selects. That being said, have a new client scheduled to come in at 11 and if one my colleagues has not arrived by then I may be stuck having to start that so I will be a little delayed with my pick if GoTerps takes the entire allotted time



Just send your two picks (in order to MattG) if you are not able then he can make it based on the order and if both are there.


I would except for the fact that the second guy on my list is someone I probably like more than the consensus and there is an off chance he will be around with my pick at 74. As a result, I do not want to put it out there who I like. Let's just say there is a gap after my first player with a number of players that I think are comparable to what I can get at their respective positions in Round 3 so if my first guy is gone I would prefer to overdraft a personal sleeper than go with the consensus
Indianapolis's pick expires in less than 10 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 10:53 am : link
Although they took a CB in Round 1, they have so many needs at DB that I cannot see any reason to bypass the top player on the GBN list (Obi Melifonwu/SS/Connecticut) as is the rules of the Mock Draft for a missed pick
Interesting to note that Melifonwu dropped a bit on the GBN Board.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2017 11:22 am : link
He's now #43 on Colin's list, which would put him behind several players still available:
26. LB Jarrad Davis
34. QB Davis Webb
36. RB Joe Mixon
38. CB *Adoree Jackson
40. TE Evan Engram

Melifonwu is still a reasonable pick.

jarrad davis  
DCPollaro : 4/10/2017 11:30 am : link
went already
RE: Interesting to note that Melifonwu dropped a bit on the GBN Board.  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 11:32 am : link
In comment 13422497 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's now #43 on Colin's list, which would put him behind several players still available:
26. LB Jarrad Davis
34. QB Davis Webb
36. RB Joe Mixon
38. CB *Adoree Jackson
40. TE Evan Engram

Melifonwu is still a reasonable pick.


Because Colin's board is subject to change, Matt freezes the list at the one in effect when initial post is made which is in the spreadsheet.
Sorry I missed the pick  
Go Terps : 4/10/2017 11:33 am : link
Victim of the time difference there.
RE: jarrad davis  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2017 11:43 am : link
DCPollaro said:
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went already
Thanks. Armstead98's selection post was so understated (amidst all the gifs and jpgs) that I missed it completely.

As for the GBN list being locked, that's understood. I just think it's interesting how fluid the board can be, considering that there isn't a lot of new information coming in. UConn's Pro Day was over two weeks ago, and by all accounts Melifonwu looked really good. So the slippage seems sort of random. I guess draftniks like Colin are still gathering input from NFL personnel and rounding out their own tape review.
Washington's pick coming in a few moments  
SirYesSir : 4/10/2017 11:43 am : link
Caleb Brantley was in my final group of names - good pick Vikings
Brantley is going to be a first rounder come  
jlukes : 4/10/2017 11:45 am : link
the real draft. Surprised he lasted this long
Still some real value on the board  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 12:17 pm : link
at some positions. Namely edge rushers.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/10/2017 12:22 pm : link


DE Tarell Basham, Ohio

correct there are several really good edge rushers left, but wanted a guy with a little more size, which Basham has with room to grow.

Jay on the Island / Tampa on the clock
and this looks like a guy that could be a team leader  
SirYesSir : 4/10/2017 12:24 pm : link
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Tarell Basham, Office Enforcer - ( New Window )
RE: Washington pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13422547 SirYesSir said:
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DE Tarell Basham, Ohio

correct there are several really good edge rushers left, but wanted a guy with a little more size, which Basham has with room to grow.

Jay on the Island / Tampa on the clock


If I hadn't already taken Garrett #1, this guy was very high on my list.
RE: Brantley is going to be a first rounder come  
allstarjim : 4/10/2017 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13422529 jlukes said:
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the real draft. Surprised he lasted this long


Kind of stunned and excited to get Brantley there. Checks off the biggest priority for the Vikings in the draft. To not have a first rounder, and get Brantley in the fold, feels like a big win.
Sent my 7 player board in just in case  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 12:55 pm : link
my pick comes up in tomorrow morning or I am delayed when I am on the clock.
I went with Engram  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2017 1:18 pm : link
I passed on Njoku in round 1 in hopes of Engram falling to my 2nd round pick and luckily this was the case. Cameron Brate was a pleasant surprise but he isn't a #1 TE and now the Bucs have another weapon for Winston. Having a pass catching TE is a very valuable safety net for a young QB.
RE: I went with Engram  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13422608 Jay on the Island said:
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I passed on Njoku in round 1 in hopes of Engram falling to my 2nd round pick and luckily this was the case. Cameron Brate was a pleasant surprise but he isn't a #1 TE and now the Bucs have another weapon for Winston. Having a pass catching TE is a very valuable safety net for a young QB.


Good value with Engram, but I neither he nor Brate offer much as a blocker. That being said, there definitely is a plateau in terms of talent at this point in the draft and Engram does offer one of the greater upsides of the players left.
Really like all the players in my top 5...  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 2:54 pm : link
Been trying to figure out who I want more. I have my #1 locked up on top. 2, 3, 4, and 5 though blur on who I want more.

I had Alvin Kamara 7th on my list. I know some people really love him, but there is something about him that I keep pushing him down for some reason. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him. Probably a mistake on my part and he will be a beast! Engram I have seen go quiet to much in games despite amazing abilities, but had him 9th on my list. Just isn't the blocker I would like unless I was running a 2 TE offense. If I was running a 2 TE offense he would have been much higher for me.
RE: Really like all the players in my top 5...  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13422793 Amtoft said:
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Been trying to figure out who I want more. I have my #1 locked up on top. 2, 3, 4, and 5 though blur on who I want more.

I had Alvin Kamara 7th on my list. I know some people really love him, but there is something about him that I keep pushing him down for some reason. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him. Probably a mistake on my part and he will be a beast! Engram I have seen go quiet to much in games despite amazing abilities, but had him 9th on my list. Just isn't the blocker I would like unless I was running a 2 TE offense. If I was running a 2 TE offense he would have been much higher for me.


Yeah, for Cleveland Kamara doesn't make a lot of sense, with Duke Johnson on the squad. A lot of players I like but some positions of much much higher need right now.
RE: RE: Really like all the players in my top 5...  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13422806 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13422793 Amtoft said:


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Been trying to figure out who I want more. I have my #1 locked up on top. 2, 3, 4, and 5 though blur on who I want more.

I had Alvin Kamara 7th on my list. I know some people really love him, but there is something about him that I keep pushing him down for some reason. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him. Probably a mistake on my part and he will be a beast! Engram I have seen go quiet to much in games despite amazing abilities, but had him 9th on my list. Just isn't the blocker I would like unless I was running a 2 TE offense. If I was running a 2 TE offense he would have been much higher for me.



Yeah, for Cleveland Kamara doesn't make a lot of sense, with Duke Johnson on the squad. A lot of players I like but some positions of much much higher need right now.


You are drafting for Cleveland... You can throw a dart and hit a need! Be an interesting choice here. I think I know who I would take tho.
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Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 3:09 pm : link
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Been trying to figure out who I want more. I have my #1 locked up on top. 2, 3, 4, and 5 though blur on who I want more.

I had Alvin Kamara 7th on my list. I know some people really love him, but there is something about him that I keep pushing him down for some reason. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him. Probably a mistake on my part and he will be a beast! Engram I have seen go quiet to much in games despite amazing abilities, but had him 9th on my list. Just isn't the blocker I would like unless I was running a 2 TE offense. If I was running a 2 TE offense he would have been much higher for me.



Yeah, for Cleveland Kamara doesn't make a lot of sense, with Duke Johnson on the squad. A lot of players I like but some positions of much much higher need right now.



You are drafting for Cleveland... You can throw a dart and hit a need! Be an interesting choice here. I think I know who I would take tho.


True, but they just spent stupid money on Zeitler and Tretter. I am not going to take Pocic in the 2nd round.
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Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 3:11 pm : link
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Been trying to figure out who I want more. I have my #1 locked up on top. 2, 3, 4, and 5 though blur on who I want more.

I had Alvin Kamara 7th on my list. I know some people really love him, but there is something about him that I keep pushing him down for some reason. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him. Probably a mistake on my part and he will be a beast! Engram I have seen go quiet to much in games despite amazing abilities, but had him 9th on my list. Just isn't the blocker I would like unless I was running a 2 TE offense. If I was running a 2 TE offense he would have been much higher for me.



Yeah, for Cleveland Kamara doesn't make a lot of sense, with Duke Johnson on the squad. A lot of players I like but some positions of much much higher need right now.



You are drafting for Cleveland... You can throw a dart and hit a need! Be an interesting choice here. I think I know who I would take tho.


There are probably 3 or 4 players I would be between if I were the Cleveland Browns at this point, but also having pick 65 I think there is 1 or 2 that would likely jump to the head of my list
With so many picks  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 3:12 pm : link
and so few playmakers, the Browns swing for the fences with Adoree' Jackson. He has some work to do as a CB, but may be the best athlete in the draft. Immediate difference maker on special teams and a lot of potential, despite his size as a defensive back. He's also the type of athlete that I design 5 or so touches on offense every week just to get the ball in his hands.
And as I posted that  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 3:13 pm : link
Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.
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Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13422830 Mike in NY said:
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Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.


Thanks Mike! There are a few players I like better as CBs right now, but this kid is just so dynamic. If you're a team like the Browns, you need to add these kinds of guys. If nothing else, he's a Devin Hester-type talent as a returner. That alone is worthy of a 2nd round pick.
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YAJ2112 : 4/10/2017 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13422830 Mike in NY said:
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Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.


He also took the player I was taking for the Lions.
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Amtoft : 4/10/2017 3:21 pm : link
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Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.



Thanks Mike! There are a few players I like better as CBs right now, but this kid is just so dynamic. If you're a team like the Browns, you need to add these kinds of guys. If nothing else, he's a Devin Hester-type talent as a returner. That alone is worthy of a 2nd round pick.


My only issue with Jackson, who I have seen a lot, is I think I like him more as a nickel back. Not that he can't play outside, but just that he would excel there. There seem to be a lot of these types of players... Peppers, Jackson, Curtis Samuel, etc. Players that have a ton of talent, but their position is not locked in or confined.
I am headed to lunch...  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 3:28 pm : link
I would like to make my pick if I come up in the next hour while I am gone. I think my #5 is now my #2 and my #2 is now number 5 on my list.
Lions pick is in  
YAJ2112 : 4/10/2017 3:41 pm : link
Was looking at several players after almost getting Jackson.
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Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 3:56 pm : link
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Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.



Thanks Mike! There are a few players I like better as CBs right now, but this kid is just so dynamic. If you're a team like the Browns, you need to add these kinds of guys. If nothing else, he's a Devin Hester-type talent as a returner. That alone is worthy of a 2nd round pick.



My only issue with Jackson, who I have seen a lot, is I think I like him more as a nickel back. Not that he can't play outside, but just that he would excel there. There seem to be a lot of these types of players... Peppers, Jackson, Curtis Samuel, etc. Players that have a ton of talent, but their position is not locked in or confined.


Amtoft, I agree with you. But Cleveland actually needs a slot corner anyway. So to add a dynamic returner too? I'm down.
Nice pick, Yaj  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 3:56 pm : link
Really like Walker
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Amtoft : 4/10/2017 4:23 pm : link
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Lionhart takes probably the player that I would mostly have taken had I been the Browns. I really think Cleveland is killing it so far in the Mock Draft.



Thanks Mike! There are a few players I like better as CBs right now, but this kid is just so dynamic. If you're a team like the Browns, you need to add these kinds of guys. If nothing else, he's a Devin Hester-type talent as a returner. That alone is worthy of a 2nd round pick.



My only issue with Jackson, who I have seen a lot, is I think I like him more as a nickel back. Not that he can't play outside, but just that he would excel there. There seem to be a lot of these types of players... Peppers, Jackson, Curtis Samuel, etc. Players that have a ton of talent, but their position is not locked in or confined.



Amtoft, I agree with you. But Cleveland actually needs a slot corner anyway. So to add a dynamic returner too? I'm down.


I think in this day and age every team needs a stud slot CB. It is why Jackson to most teams makes a ton of sense and a great pick. That is his floor while which is a pretty great floor. I can't knock the pick at all. Just was stating the only thing holding me back from having him higher. He has very good cover skills to go with elite athleticism.
RE: Nice pick, Yaj  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 4:27 pm : link
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Walker is the player I just moved up to my #2. I am actually a big fan of his. I like that he can be a very good DE and move him inside as well especially on passing downs. When you look at DEs in the this draft I am just not a fan of most of them. I bumped Walker up because I thought he would be the last DE that I wanted for probably a round or two unless someone drops. The value was close enough on my 2-5 that taking Walker now would have made more sense for my team. Nice pick.
Nothing better for a young QB than a nice 3 down running back  
jlukes : 4/10/2017 4:39 pm : link
Alvin Kamara may be the best running back in the draft and the Broncos can use a RB that can stay on the field all 3 downs, run between the tackles, and catch balls out of the backfield.

The pick was between Kamara and Engram, and with Engram going off the board right before us, it was a no brainer to take Kamara
Some intriguing options on the horizon for NYG at #55.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2017 4:47 pm : link
Pending Miami's pick:
WR/RB Curtis Samuel (small, but dynamic)
DE Carl Lawson (has everything except length)
OLB Tyus Bowser
CBs Cordrea Tankersley and Fabian Moreau
ILB Raekwon McMillan (too similar to Goodson?)
OT Taylor Moton
WRs Chris Godwin, Cooper Kupp, Zay Jones
QB Davis Webb (I wouldn't, but Andy might...)
Godwin please  
jlukes : 4/10/2017 5:14 pm : link
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Amtoft : 4/10/2017 5:17 pm : link
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I would want Moton from that list
If they go Offensive Skill in round 1  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 5:28 pm : link
Gotta think DL/OL in round 2.
Would love Njoku  
NoGainDayne : 4/10/2017 6:08 pm : link
And Moton 1/2
I have 4 guys in a block and you are sniffing around 2 of them  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2017 6:18 pm : link
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So close to my pick...  
Amtoft : 4/10/2017 6:19 pm : link
Seems we won't get Miami and the Giants picks tonight, meaning my pick will be put in by Matt tomorrow morning for me.
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Amtoft : 4/10/2017 6:20 pm : link
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Ohhh Maybe I will get in my pick today! ... Andy we all know you are taking TE Bucky Hodges with your pick so don't try it!
I'm getting tired of being at work.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2017 6:24 pm : link
But will check again when I get home.
Miami here checking on for round #2  
Optimus-NY : 4/10/2017 6:30 pm : link
Pick upcoming
I double dipped on the OL for the Fish.  
Optimus-NY : 4/10/2017 7:05 pm : link
A la rounds 1 and 2 of the 1988 Draft for the Giants, when they selected Eric Moore and Jumbo Elliot in rounds 1 and 2 respectively, I decided to fix a GLARING issue for the Fish. They were fine at Tackle and Center. I upgraded at Guard BIG TIME with not one, but 2 OGs. Lamp (who is versatile as they come) and Johnson will start inside for a loooong time in the pros. The Fish's OL goes to Dallas' level, maybe even superseding it. Bottom line: a weakness now goes to a huge strength.
Good thing I took Feeney when I did  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2017 7:08 pm : link
Versus gambling on an OL falling to 74
Cleveland drafted  
est1986 : 4/10/2017 7:10 pm : link
Garrett... Hooker... Watson... Adoree

No way they nail it like that come April 28th.. They get Garret prob and fuck the rest of them up.
RE: Cleveland drafted  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 8:31 pm : link
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Garrett... Hooker... Watson... Adoree

No way they nail it like that come April 28th.. They get Garret prob and fuck the rest of them up.


Yeah, they'll definitely both it. Hopefully they keep trading. Diana DB load up on picks again for nex lt year ;)
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Lionhart28 : 4/10/2017 9:26 pm : link
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Garrett... Hooker... Watson... Adoree

No way they nail it like that come April 28th.. They get Garret prob and fuck the rest of them up.



Yeah, they'll definitely both it. Hopefully they keep trading. Diana DB load up on picks again for nex lt year ;)

Jesus. Botch it. Hopefully they trade down and load up on picks again
Matt,I sent you an email with my 6 player board for Cowboys pick at 60  
Rick in Dallas : 4/11/2017 6:44 am : link

I am an usher for Frisco Roughriders minor league team.11:00am game today.Nice retirement job that keeps me busy and get to see Rangers top prospects play AA baseball.Thanks Matt for a great job.
Andy don't F this up  
SHO'NUFF : 4/11/2017 6:54 am : link
who are your next best 6 available picks?
RE: Andy don't F this up  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 6:57 am : link
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who are your next best 6 available picks?


For me, there are 3 players I likely would be going between if I were the Giants and I could see the merits of any of the 3. At the end of the day it is Andy's call.
Had every intention of taking Dorion Johnson and assumed he'd be there  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 7:06 am : link
Pick will be up in a sec or two.
Had Dorion Johnson, Juju Smith-Schuster, a CB and another WR  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 7:18 am : link
and ultimately went with the kid I think is BPA. Not a perfect match with need but BPA is BPA.
Smith-Schuster is both a good pick and a questionable one.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/11/2017 7:39 am : link
There seem to a lot of possession-type receivers in this class with size and not much speed. With Marshall signed and Njoku as the first pick, there isn't an urgent need, and I'm not sure Smith-Schuster stands out enough to be good value for the Giants at #55. In a vacuum, he's a fine pick. But when the Giants' turn comes in Round Three, Andy might wish he had used #55 to address an area where the class is thinner: DE, OL, LB, etc.
Well  
Boatie Warrant : 4/11/2017 8:18 am : link
I had three players targeted before the Giants picked. Oakland took the guy I really wanted in Tankersley so that left OL and DL choices. I went with the option that protects my new first round investment.
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Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 8:22 am : link
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I had three players targeted before the Giants picked. Oakland took the guy I really wanted in Tankersley so that left OL and DL choices. I went with the option that protects my new first round investment.


When I mentioned 3 that I would consider for the Giants, 2 were Tankersley and Moton
I may be wrong (likely), but I saw a really big drop off  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 8:54 am : link
from my WR & the other guy I liked (Penn St) to the next group of WRs. I actually had him in the middle of my second tier overall (around 40ish) so value, for me, was there.

Moton didn't impress me in my scouting trip to Draft Breakdown...
RE: I may be wrong (likely), but I saw a really big drop off  
Boatie Warrant : 4/11/2017 9:28 am : link
In comment 13423484 Andy in Halifax said:
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from my WR & the other guy I liked (Penn St) to the next group of WRs. I actually had him in the middle of my second tier overall (around 40ish) so value, for me, was there.

Moton didn't impress me in my scouting trip to Draft Breakdown...


From what I have seen/read Moton projects better as a guard in the NFL then a Tackle. He would most likely start his rookie year as a Tackle for the Texans then transition to Guard in later years (starters are getting older and slower)
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/11/2017 9:45 am : link
Despite being the FBS all time leader in receptions, a strong Senior Bowl week and the combine, I still think Zay Jones is underrated. He has smallish hands (9") but he catches everything. He had only 6 drops this year but led the nation in targets, receptions and was second in yards per game. ECU used him with a lot of short throws, which I think would compliment the smaller, faster WR's who always go deep for Seattle. But Jones has speed as well and showed his ability to go deep atthe Senior Bowl. He has also been in used creatively which would translate to the 'Hawks offensive gameplan. Lastly he has the pedigree. His father was a first rd pick of the Cowboys and played ten years in the league.
Matt  
YAJ2112 : 4/11/2017 9:46 am : link
you have a couple of picks that are wrong in your last couple of posts on the selection thread.
Kansas the City  
English Alaister : 4/11/2017 10:03 am : link
looks to Kansas the State and takes Jordan Willis.

A talented edge defender we see Willis as their heir to Justin Houston. Crazy SPARQ data second only to Garrett. A 1.53 10 yd split, a 4.5 40 (in Indy), 125 inch broad jump and a 39 vertical plus a 6.8 3 cone. That is top 10 percentile stuff.

All following on from a career at Kansas State where he notched 25.5 sacks and 39.5 TfL. There's some work to be done, for all those numbers Willis still plays a bit stiff at times and needs to work on his moves but there's a lot here to work with.

You have to be able to get to the QB in today's NFL and Willis helps us get that done.

Andy in Halifax makes Jeery Reese look like George Young  
est1986 : 4/11/2017 10:42 am : link
Smith Schuster over Zay Jones????
I'd throw up if that was the  
jlukes : 4/11/2017 11:15 am : link
Giants draft
I only saw Zay Jones a few times in clips  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 11:16 am : link
Prolific numbers, but had sooooo many targets to pad the stats. I thought the Smith-Schuster was bigger and better equipped for the NFL game.
RE: I'd throw up if that was the  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 11:17 am : link
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You said something similar after I drafted Demarco Murray in the 3rd round a few years ago ;)
I'm guessing Andy doesn't set up his board in 'rows'  
Torrag : 4/11/2017 11:27 am : link
He's a pure BPA guy because after drafting Njoku and with the other areas this roster needs support in I'd say drafting another passing weapon for what is probably already the best set of receivers in the NFL is a bit of overkill.
Green Bay went with Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2017 11:30 am : link
this was a tough choice between Bowser and Carl Lawson. I was looking to add talent at edge rusher and I felt both of these individuals have it to make a difference. Ultimately, it came down to injury history. Last year was Lawson's first to remain healthy for the whole season since 2013. Bowser is raw but he has a lot athleticism to work with. I like his future.
RE: Had Dorion Johnson, Juju Smith-Schuster, a CB and another WR  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13423427 Andy in Halifax said:
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and ultimately went with the kid I think is BPA. Not a perfect match with need but BPA is BPA.


JuJu Smith-Schuster was my #3 pick after #2 Cordrea Tankersley. I had Moton my #1, but with Cam Robinson in round one they are to close to the same player. I had Tankersley solid on top for me for a lot of picks. I love his potential. Great size, speed, and is getting better. He was a big reason Clemson was so good against the pass.

If I would have known Moton would have made it to this pick I wouldn't have taken Cam Robinson in the first. I really wanted a dominate RT type that could maybe swing to LT. Moton is a guy I would love the Giants to take, but he like Cam Robinson is basically Fluker and Flowers.

JuJu Smith-Schuster is beyond under valued. He will go higher then where Andy took him. He isn't some slow WR that ran over 4.6, he ran a 4.54 at the combine. He is also better at going up and getting contested balls than probably anyone in this draft. He has big hands and catches the ball ease. You go watch him as a Soph and he was amazing. He had to deal with horrible QB play for the first 3 game and then was injured four games later. He played through it, but you could tell it was affecting him getting off the line and his explosion. He was healthy again in the bowl game... In those 5 games with a good QB and healthy he put up 36 catches, 599 yards, and 7 TDs! That is 16.6 yards a catch which is inline with his previous year where with a QB and good health he put up 89 catches, 1454 yards, 16.3 yard ave, and 10 TDs. The guy is insanely good and a great pick. I think the need wasn't there for the Giants though and I disagree there aren't a ton of really good WRs left, but I still had him #3 on my board after Moton who I wasn't taking because of my first rounder and Tankersley. Can't argue with that.
RE: Green Bay went with Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13423640 MadPlaid said:
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this was a tough choice between Bowser and Carl Lawson. I was looking to add talent at edge rusher and I felt both of these individuals have it to make a difference. Ultimately, it came down to injury history. Last year was Lawson's first to remain healthy for the whole season since 2013. Bowser is raw but he has a lot athleticism to work with. I like his future.


I am not a fan of Lawson. I just don't see it. He looks stiff to me. He wasn't even on my top 10 list. Bowser wasn't either, but only because I didn't see any Houston games last year. I just don't know enough about him.
RE: Andy in Halifax makes Jeery Reese look like George Young  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13423592 est1986 said:
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Smith Schuster over Zay Jones????


Zay Jones? Really? 158 catches last year and averaged 11 yards a catch with only 8 TDs? Bubble screen Jones? Small hands Jones? Over JuJu smith? You need to watch more Pac-12 games.
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Amtoft : 4/11/2017 12:12 pm : link
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from my WR & the other guy I liked (Penn St) to the next group of WRs. I actually had him in the middle of my second tier overall (around 40ish) so value, for me, was there.

Moton didn't impress me in my scouting trip to Draft Breakdown...



From what I have seen/read Moton projects better as a guard in the NFL then a Tackle. He would most likely start his rookie year as a Tackle for the Texans then transition to Guard in later years (starters are getting older and slower)


Love this pick... Trubisky and Moton... You are killing the draft!
RE: Seattle's pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13423531 sjnyfan said:
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Despite being the FBS all time leader in receptions, a strong Senior Bowl week and the combine, I still think Zay Jones is underrated. He has smallish hands (9") but he catches everything. He had only 6 drops this year but led the nation in targets, receptions and was second in yards per game. ECU used him with a lot of short throws, which I think would compliment the smaller, faster WR's who always go deep for Seattle. But Jones has speed as well and showed his ability to go deep atthe Senior Bowl. He has also been in used creatively which would translate to the 'Hawks offensive gameplan. Lastly he has the pedigree. His father was a first rd pick of the Cowboys and played ten years in the league.


Jones didn't have many drops with those small hands because he mainly caught very short routes. Bubble screens and such. They were rarely contested at all. Looks skinny and ran a 4.45 at the combine, but showed no such speed all year long. I was expecting him to run 4.6 from what you see on the field.
RE: I'm guessing Andy doesn't set up his board in 'rows'  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13423635 Torrag said:
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He's a pure BPA guy because after drafting Njoku and with the other areas this roster needs support in I'd say drafting another passing weapon for what is probably already the best set of receivers in the NFL is a bit of overkill.


I am pretty close to a pure BPA guy, yes. 5 years ago I wouldn't have taken a QB no matter what, but other than quirks like that my opinion is that no position is so set in the NFL that you won't take the guy that represents the most value to the team. I guess I feel almost any position has a "need", that might be a better way of putting it.

I think Juju Smith-Schuster is a starting WR in the NFL. I don't think he'd start for us in year one, but the Giants are in 3WR sets for 90%+ of the snaps. We have plenty of room for another WR, especially long term where Marshall will be gone.

What worries me most about this pick is I have VERY mixed results when picking WR's - Nicks and Bowe were good picks. Brian Quick wasn't. I liked Agholor a couple of years ago, but he seems like a bust. Way back in the day I loved Dwayne Jarrett but he was a colossal bust. Marquis Lee I liked a lot, he's pretty good. So I am not very good when it comes to evaluating WR's, especially USC WR's. We'll see.
I emailed Matt my Pats Board in case I'm not around  
Torrag : 4/11/2017 1:02 pm : link
Give me an hour to make the pick then go ahead if I haven't posted.
The Panthers..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2017 1:06 pm : link
were ready to pull the trigger on Moreau!
Love the Moreau pick  
Anakim : 4/11/2017 1:11 pm : link
I think he can go in the first round
Moreau was on my short list for my last pick  
YAJ2112 : 4/11/2017 1:13 pm : link
didn't figure he'd make it to my next one
To be honest I thought about going  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 1:14 pm : link
a couple of different ways with this pick. CB is a position where the Curtain needs help. Grabbing a pass rusher in the first and press corner in the 2nd is going to really help the Steel Curtain defense out.

I realize that I am currently at a disadvantage, since I have no idea how to chose a DE/DT in 3-4 scheme (DT I know, but DE). I thought long and hard about Lawson due to him having great value, but he wouldn't be a great DE in this scheme, and I addressed and edge rusher/olb with my first pick.

I'm happy with Moreau since he is the type of CB that Steelers deploy. Excel's in man coverage, and cover 3. Former converted RB that can lay the wood and is still growing after being injured earlier in his career, but bounced back with a solid 2016 campaign. He suffered a peck injury at his pro-day, but all signs show that he will be ready to go full steam ahead in August.
Moreau was the CB I liked with my pick.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/11/2017 1:19 pm : link
That's a really nice value imo.
RE: The Panthers..  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 1:19 pm : link
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were ready to pull the trigger on Moreau!


Like that pick. The depth at CB in this draft is insane. There are still a ton of guy that contribute day 1 on the board at CB.
If anyone has any insights to  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 1:20 pm : link
what you look for in a 3-4 DE that would be helpful. I understand what to look for in a nose tackle, but DE's I am pretty inept.
Moreau was on the short list for my pick at 74  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 1:27 pm : link
Didn't think he would last that far, but was hoping he would
RE: RE: Green Bay went with Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2017 1:29 pm : link
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I am not a fan of Lawson. I just don't see it. He looks stiff to me. He wasn't even on my top 10 list. Bowser wasn't either, but only because I didn't see any Houston games last year. I just don't know enough about him.
Thank you for the feedback. To be perfectly honest, I have no clue about these guys. I read the what the "experts" have to say on-line and try to pick up a good feelings about a prospect. What was being said about Bowser intrigued me. He sounds like a good prospect and a good fit for Green Bay. Another guy who I liked with my pick was Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State. The experts detailed things about him that made me think he'd be a very good pick up for an edge rusher. KC beat me to him, so I went with Bowser.
RE: If anyone has any insights to  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13423874 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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what you look for in a 3-4 DE that would be helpful. I understand what to look for in a nose tackle, but DE's I am pretty inept.


Unless you are looking at a J.J. Watt/Haloti Ngata type, I would look for someone who might otherwise be a three technique DT or a large DE in a 4-3 scheme (a la Chris Canty) but make sure they are about 6'3" or taller. In other words, while someone like Mike Patterson or Dan Klecko were 3 technique DT's, they were too short to play 5T DE
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Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13423911 Mike in NY said:
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what you look for in a 3-4 DE that would be helpful. I understand what to look for in a nose tackle, but DE's I am pretty inept.



Unless you are looking at a J.J. Watt/Haloti Ngata type, I would look for someone who might otherwise be a three technique DT or a large DE in a 4-3 scheme (a la Chris Canty) but make sure they are about 6'3" or taller. In other words, while someone like Mike Patterson or Dan Klecko were 3 technique DT's, they were too short to play 5T DE


Absolutely. Most teams look for length. Ideally 6'5" - 300ish size. It also depends whether it's a one gap or two gap scheme. That would tell you whether you need someone to take on double teams and hold up blockers or somebody with some better penetrating skills.
Thanks for the insight  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 1:47 pm : link
Guys
I was hoping Hodges would  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 2:48 pm : link
fall in the 3rd. Wasn't sure if I would pick him, but I wanted to be able to consider him.
This was my toughest choice  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 2:54 pm : link
I had 2 DL, 2 TEs, 3 WRs and 1 CB on my short list.

But I like Godwin's size, reliability and underrated athleticism. I see him as similar to Smith-Shuster. Will be a nice reliable option next to Coleman and Britt.
I was hoping Godwin would fall to 74 or 78  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 2:55 pm : link
Back to the drawing board
Just really an unbelievable draft for Cleveland  
jlukes : 4/11/2017 3:07 pm : link
cannot believe Godwin fell.
Garret, Hooker, Watson, and Godwin could all be first round picks  
jlukes : 4/11/2017 3:10 pm : link
and Walker aint too shabby either.
Walker screwed my college team  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 3:20 pm : link
committed to them first and then backed out to go to FSU. He can rot in hell for all I care! Of course if he goes the Giants he will be back on my good side.
RE: Garret, Hooker, Watson, and Godwin could all be first round picks  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13424098 jlukes said:
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and Walker aint too shabby either.


He took Jackson, not Walker. Cleveland is having one heck of a draft
Yes, Jackson, my bad  
jlukes : 4/11/2017 3:28 pm : link
either way, a hell of a 2nd and 3rd round
Thanks y'all  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 3:57 pm : link
Happy with how the draft has fallen so far. Lord knows the brownies could use it.
I hate to start bringing this up  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2017 4:09 pm : link
San Francisco's clock expires in just about 40 minutes. According to spreadsheet, the next guy on the list is Ohio State RB/WR Curtis Samuel. At this point I do not see why we should skip over him if Pete misses his pick.
9ers  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 4:17 pm : link
Could absolutely use a weapon like Samuel
RE: 9ers  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13424209 Lionhart28 said:
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Could absolutely use a weapon like Samuel


I agree... no need to not take him. He is very versatile and can play multiple positions. I personally think he is a RB not a slot WR.
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Lionhart28 : 4/11/2017 4:42 pm : link
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Could absolutely use a weapon like Samuel



I agree... no need to not take him. He is very versatile and can play multiple positions. I personally think he is a RB not a slot WR.


he needs a lot of work on his routes and hands if he's gonna play WR. McCaffrey is light years more advanced at this point
time is almost up...  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 4:46 pm : link
anyone check with Matt in case he sent in a board?
i sent pete emails  
Matt G : 4/11/2017 5:16 pm : link
auto pick is in
Pete got his pick in...  
Matt G : 4/11/2017 5:43 pm : link
revised
A little late with my analysis but  
NoGainDayne : 4/11/2017 5:45 pm : link
I love Hodges. I don't have him far below Njoku on my board and I like his potential to be a complete TE more than Engram. I do think he could be coached to be a better blocker, he has the size. Short term he is another weapon for Matt Ryan. He would get a lot of good coverage situations with Julio Jones around potentially put up some excellent TD numbers in his first season.
So SF took Carl Lawson and  
Amtoft : 4/11/2017 6:08 pm : link
Curtis Samuel is still on the board.
RE: So SF took Carl Lawson and  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2017 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13424368 Amtoft said:
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Curtis Samuel is still on the board.


No. The opposite.
Actually  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2017 7:01 pm : link
sorry I may be wrong.
RE: A little late with my analysis but  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/11/2017 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13424344 NoGainDayne said:
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I love Hodges. I don't have him far below Njoku on my board and I like his potential to be a complete TE more than Engram. I do think he could be coached to be a better blocker, he has the size. Short term he is another weapon for Matt Ryan. He would get a lot of good coverage situations with Julio Jones around potentially put up some excellent TD numbers in his first season.


He's an excellent receiver and since he's only been playing TE for 3 years there is allot he can still grow into. Also, I would have taken him just as a wide receiver. He uses his long arms to box defenders out for catches.
Sorry guys  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/11/2017 8:30 pm : link
I tried logging in from my phone but I couldn't.. hope I didn't screw things up too much!

Carl Lawson was my pick.. surprised he was still there! 49ers need an edge rusher bad. Some considered him one of the best in the draft! The 49ers have yet to tag a LEO for their transition to the 4-3 defensive scheme being implemented and Lawson would be an ideal candidate at 6-foot-2 and 261 pounds!
Where is Kevin in CT  
superspynyg : 4/12/2017 9:19 am : link
H is up
RE: Where is Kevin in CT  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 9:27 am : link
In comment 13424815 superspynyg said:
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H is up


He selected over an hour ago. In the meantime, Matt has posted the selection from the list he had for the Rams so the New York Jets are now on the clock.
Matt, FYI  
YAJ2112 : 4/12/2017 9:52 am : link
you have the teams/players mixed up for picks 50-53 on the lists you are keep posting.
Thanks... Corrected  
Matt G : 4/12/2017 10:27 am : link
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Nice pick Jon...  
Matt G : 4/12/2017 10:29 am : link
I would be very happy if the Giants grabbed Shaheen in RD2 but I think there is a good chance that he doesnt fall out of the Top 45...
RE: Nice pick Jon...  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2017 10:32 am : link
In comment 13424934 Matt G said:
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I would be very happy if the Giants grabbed Shaheen in RD2 but I think there is a good chance that he doesnt fall out of the Top 45...


Thanks!

With the Jets being so far away from being even remotely decent I've been focusing on really raw, high upside guys. Shaheen certainly fits the bill there.
My bad, wrong thread  
Lionhart28 : 4/12/2017 10:32 am : link
Re; Shaheen
He's been on my short list for a while... Has everything you're looking for in a TE these days. Raw prospect but great physical skills. He's a guy I could definitely see the Giants targeting. I expect him to go in Round 2 of the real draft.
Chargers pick expires in about 5 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 12:09 pm : link
I see no reason to pass on Curtis Samuel, BPA according to GBN list on spreadsheet.
RE: Chargers pick expires in about 5 minutes  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13425090 Mike in NY said:
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I see no reason to pass on Curtis Samuel, BPA according to GBN list on spreadsheet.


Especially with Woodhead moving on.
Lol  
NoGainDayne : 4/12/2017 12:20 pm : link
poor Samuel. First he has his name called and then rescinded then nobody else picks him and he gets auto picked again.
******* CURRENT SELECTION *******  
Matt G : 4/12/2017 12:21 pm : link
With the 71st pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers select:

*Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State
RE: Lol  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13425112 NoGainDayne said:
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poor Samuel. First he has his name called and then rescinded then nobody else picks him and he gets auto picked again.


I like Samuel, but not as a WR. I personally think he is a RB and can be a very good one. You can also line him up and flex him out creating mismatches.
RE: RE: Lol  
Lionhart28 : 4/12/2017 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13425124 Amtoft said:
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poor Samuel. First he has his name called and then rescinded then nobody else picks him and he gets auto picked again.



I like Samuel, but not as a WR. I personally think he is a RB and can be a very good one. You can also line him up and flex him out creating mismatches.


Some team is going to fall in love with his speed and take him earlier than expected, imo.
I have Torrag's board...  
Matt G : 4/12/2017 12:36 pm : link
But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...
RE: I have Torrag's board...  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13425143 Matt G said:
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But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...


Great... I am hoping to get through at least 7 more picks today so I don't have to send in a monster board tonight.
RE: RE: I have Torrag's board...  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13425147 Amtoft said:
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But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...



Great... I am hoping to get through at least 7 more picks today so I don't have to send in a monster board tonight.


I should be available for Picks 74 and 78
RE: RE: RE: I have Torrag's board...  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13425148 Mike in NY said:
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But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...



Great... I am hoping to get through at least 7 more picks today so I don't have to send in a monster board tonight.



I should be available for Picks 74 and 78


Awesome... Hopefully superspynyg, Saos1n, and DCPollaro are around also... we can really fly through some picks.
Amtoft  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 12:56 pm : link
It may take some time as I need to go back to the drawing board. Torrag took the player I was looking at for Pick 74
im around  
DCPollaro : 4/12/2017 12:58 pm : link
as well
RE: im around  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13425190 DCPollaro said:
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as well


Ahhhh yeah!
I'm heading out...  
Matt G : 4/12/2017 1:02 pm : link
I have Washington's board if we get there...
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13425185 Mike in NY said:
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It may take some time as I need to go back to the drawing board. Torrag took the player I was looking at for Pick 74


No worries... I had Wormley #1 on my board also. Actually Wormley and Montavius Adams were 2 of my top 10. If Wormley didn't play DE at Michigan I would have probably taken him with my 2nd round pick. I really like him, but I am not sure how the move inside would affect him. He may be best suited for a 3-4 DE.
Really wanted Wormley at 74  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 1:07 pm : link
He was on my short list for my 2nd Round pick and then he kept dropping. There is definitely a drop off at the 5-Technique and the Ravens need one after trading away Jernigan. Stewart was the best player remaining so that is the direction I went, especially after seeing Sy's write-up today! Hopefully you all do not make me go back to the drawing board for pick 78 as there is one player that stands out in my opinion among those still left.
RE: Really wanted Wormley at 74  
Lionhart28 : 4/12/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13425209 Mike in NY said:
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He was on my short list for my 2nd Round pick and then he kept dropping. There is definitely a drop off at the 5-Technique and the Ravens need one after trading away Jernigan. Stewart was the best player remaining so that is the direction I went, especially after seeing Sy's write-up today! Hopefully you all do not make me go back to the drawing board for pick 78 as there is one player that stands out in my opinion among those still left.


Wormley has been on my list for a while too. Would make a good 5T
I had Wormley on my list as well,  
YAJ2112 : 4/12/2017 1:27 pm : link
debated hard between he and Walker at 53.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I have Torrag's board...  
Saos1n : 4/12/2017 1:49 pm : link
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But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...



Great... I am hoping to get through at least 7 more picks today so I don't have to send in a monster board tonight.



I should be available for Picks 74 and 78



Awesome... Hopefully superspynyg, Saos1n, and DCPollaro are around also... we can really fly through some picks.


Ready
Buffalo has just under an hour to pick  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 2:11 pm : link
No need to go crazy here. Nice to see the pace pick up a bit because we are getting awfully close to not being able to complete 6 rounds at the pace we were going (as it tends to slow down as we get towards the end of the draft)
Davis Webb about to be the pick by the looks of it.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2017 3:00 pm : link
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RE: Davis Webb about to be the pick by the looks of it.  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 3:09 pm : link
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Even though they gave Taylor a big contract, I do not think the Bills have any qualms about trading him at some point. Rules say to go with top name listed unless it is absurd.
RE: RE: Davis Webb about to be the pick by the looks of it.  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 3:16 pm : link
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Even though they gave Taylor a big contract, I do not think the Bills have any qualms about trading him at some point. Rules say to go with top name listed unless it is absurd.


I don't think it is absurd at all. There is no guarantees with Taylor and he is only signed to a 2 year contract. It actually makes a lot of sense really.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I have Torrag's board...  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 3:18 pm : link
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But he was just on here... Will give him another 15 mins and then make both of our picks... Then I need to head out for a few hours...



Great... I am hoping to get through at least 7 more picks today so I don't have to send in a monster board tonight.



I should be available for Picks 74 and 78



Awesome... Hopefully superspynyg, Saos1n, and DCPollaro are around also... we can really fly through some picks.



Ready


You are up! DCPollaro on deck
Wow talented Mixon...  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 3:28 pm : link
I have met the kid a few times. Always came across cocky and entitled, but then again most top HS players come across that way. Extremely talent, but what he did left him off my list completely.
damn i was going to take  
DCPollaro : 4/12/2017 3:42 pm : link
Davis Webb, damn autopick
yesterday this time I was taking Peterman over Webb  
DCPollaro : 4/12/2017 3:57 pm : link
today I had changed it to Webb over Peterman...but now looks like due to autopick, I get Peterman..happy either way
Ravens pick at 78 is in  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 4:06 pm : link
Ravens need youth on Defense at all levels and Jones was the next guy on my board so that is the pick. Probably more of a Special Teams player to start, but he has enough raw tools to contribute down the road. Could have gone with a 2 down ILB, but I think Jones offered more upside.
RE: Ravens pick at 78 is in  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13425501 Mike in NY said:
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Ravens need youth on Defense at all levels and Jones was the next guy on my board so that is the pick. Probably more of a Special Teams player to start, but he has enough raw tools to contribute down the road. Could have gone with a 2 down ILB, but I think Jones offered more upside.


I am a Josh Jones fan. He comes in like a hammer. His size, speed, and production show that he has a lot of promise as an in the box safety.
I see that allstarjim was on recently...  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 4:44 pm : link
I hope he sees he is up.
RE: I see that allstarjim was on recently...  
allstarjim : 4/12/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13425575 Amtoft said:
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I hope he sees he is up.
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I did see I'm up... I wanted either Mixon or Stewart here and both got taken shortly before my pick, so I'm deliberating on a couple of options, but about to make my pick momentarily.
Colts pick is in too  
Go Terps : 4/12/2017 6:09 pm : link
Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) is up.
Go Terps is on the clock at pick 80  
allstarjim : 4/12/2017 6:15 pm : link
I went with Roderick Johnson. Not a sexy pick, but I believe the Vikings really need some youth on the offensive line, and I think with Johnson, they have a potential future left or right tackle who could play inside right now and help them at RG, where they currently have Willie Beavers at who was supposed to be the developmental tackle but was a pretty colossal failure in his rookie year. This pick was about value and some need. The Vikings spent a lot of money on Remmers and Reiff in this offseason, but I think Johnson allows them not only some flexibility down the line, but depth at tackle as well as a starting option at RG whose name is not Willie Beavers.
damnit Terps  
jlukes : 4/12/2017 6:31 pm : link
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RE: RE: I see that allstarjim was on recently...  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2017 6:39 pm : link
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I hope he sees he is up.

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I did see I'm up... I wanted either Mixon or Stewart here and both got taken shortly before my pick, so I'm deliberating on a couple of options, but about to make my pick momentarily.


Glad that after missing out so many times I can annoy someone else :)
I am ready with the Broncos pick  
jlukes : 4/12/2017 6:40 pm : link
assuming Washington doesn't steal him from me
RE: RE: RE: I see that allstarjim was on recently...  
allstarjim : 4/12/2017 6:42 pm : link
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I hope he sees he is up.

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I did see I'm up... I wanted either Mixon or Stewart here and both got taken shortly before my pick, so I'm deliberating on a couple of options, but about to make my pick momentarily.



Glad that after missing out so many times I can annoy someone else :)


LOL, Mike... I thought I would probably lose one but losing both was a kick in the pants. When the real draft comes around, I expect the Vikings to draft Mixon if they have a shot at him in the 3rd. And they might even do it in the 2nd round. Supposedly, Zimmer met with him and likes him, and they need an infusion of talent behind Latavius Murray.
RE: damnit Terps  
Go Terps : 4/12/2017 6:45 pm : link
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I almost took another guy, but it seems like a good fit.

The Colts would do well to shorten up their passing game and keep Luck's vital organs intact.
RE: Go Terps is on the clock at pick 80  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13425716 allstarjim said:
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I went with Roderick Johnson. Not a sexy pick, but I believe the Vikings really need some youth on the offensive line, and I think with Johnson, they have a potential future left or right tackle who could play inside right now and help them at RG, where they currently have Willie Beavers at who was supposed to be the developmental tackle but was a pretty colossal failure in his rookie year. This pick was about value and some need. The Vikings spent a lot of money on Remmers and Reiff in this offseason, but I think Johnson allows them not only some flexibility down the line, but depth at tackle as well as a starting option at RG whose name is not Willie Beavers.


I am a big Roderick Johnson fan. I think he might end up being the best LT in the draft. I think he will need a little more time, but he has huge potential. He was in the top 2 players left on my board. Love this pick and would love the Giants to grab him in the 3rd if he slips some.
Matt has  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 7:30 pm : link
Washington's board I believe FYI
Was hoping Roderick Johnson would fall a few more picks.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2017 8:05 pm : link
I think that is a great pickup.
8 player board sent in  
Amtoft : 4/12/2017 8:33 pm : link
just in case it gets to me in the morning before I am on. Really high on 4 players so I am hoping one makes it to me.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/12/2017 8:59 pm : link
Denver is on the clock

DT Carlos Watkins brings more help to the failing D line of the skins
I was fully convinced Washington was going to take Tomlinson  
jlukes : 4/12/2017 9:06 pm : link
and really had no idea who I was going to take if they did.

Thankfully they went in a different direction and the Broncos get to add solid player to the middle of the their defense.
I'm going to be in meetings most of today...  
Matt G : 4/13/2017 6:32 am : link
I have OAK's board... If someone is around to handle the pick, I can send it...
I have a brief meeting this morning, about 30 minutes I expect  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 7:38 am : link
but if my pick is on deck I will send a list to someone before I leave. Otherwise I am here and ready.
RE: I'm going to be in meetings most of today...  
Saos1n : 4/13/2017 7:48 am : link
In comment 13426329 Matt G said:
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I have OAK's board... If someone is around to handle the pick, I can send it...


I can take care of it
Great... thx for the help!  
Matt G : 4/13/2017 8:58 am : link
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RE: 8 player board sent in  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 9:46 am : link
In comment 13425806 Amtoft said:

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I am a big Roderick Johnson fan. I think he might end up being the best LT in the draft. I think he will need a little more time, but he has huge potential. He was in the top 2 players left on my board. Love this pick and would love the Giants to grab him in the 3rd if he slips some.

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In comment 13425913 Amtoft said:
[quote] just in case it gets to me in the morning before I am on. Really high on 4 players so I am hoping one makes it to me.


Yeah, I liked that I got two guys for the trenches in the first two picks for the Vikes. Caleb Brantley was necessary because Shariff Floyd may never play again. But getting a guy that can bolster the OL as well, seems like a good start to the Vikings' draft.
RE: I have a brief meeting this morning, about 30 minutes I expect  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2017 9:59 am : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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but if my pick is on deck I will send a list to someone before I leave. Otherwise I am here and ready.
A list that presumably includes McMillan, Garcia, Riley, Ogunjobi, plus some third-tier DBs, and maybe a few versatile interior OL.

Then Andy can pop out of his meeting to pick Marlon Mack or Brad Kaaya, true to his philosophy of BOSPA (best offensive skill player available). ;o)
No Ccomment B cubed...  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 10:04 am : link
But let's get this show on the road!!!
Tennessee has just under 25 minutes left  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 10:38 am : link
Top name on board is Raekwon McMillan. They took a LB earlier in Hassan Reddick. Would that foreclose a 2nd LB although one is an ILB and the other is an OLB? The second guy on the list is a QB so definitely would skip over that as they have Mariota. Third on the list is Ethan Pocic who I see no reason to skip over. So the question remains do we go with McMillan or skip down to Pocic?
Go with the Po  
jlukes : 4/13/2017 10:40 am : link
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Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 11:03 am : link
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I agree  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 11:03 am : link
They took a linebacker early, no reason to invest in another QB here, go with Pocic.
It's done.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 11:12 am : link
Jay on the Island is OTC.
Why can't people just send in a board...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 11:45 am : link
When it is within 10 picks and you aren't going to be around send a board in... it isn't really hard.
Definitely sucks that we are 3 hours into the day  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 11:54 am : link
with only 1 pick and that was an autopick. But it is what it is I guess.
I know it is early  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 11:56 am : link
But we are going to run into the same issue with Tampa that we had with Tennessee. Already taken an LB and not sure they need two with the second player being QB. Third player is an OG (in this case Nico Siragusa) and I do not see any reason to go further.
RE: Definitely sucks that we are 3 hours into the day  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13426718 Andy in Halifax said:
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with only 1 pick and that was an autopick. But it is what it is I guess.


Exactly...I realize I am on the West coast by the time I am on line it is like 11AM East coast time. I don't want to hold up the draft so at night if I am within 10 picks I send a quick list... If I know I will be busy in the morning I will send it 12 or 15 or round 1 I think I went 21 player list. You can always change it as you get closer. Matt is great at not getting to frustrated with me moving players around. For my second round pick I had it

1. CB - Cordrea Tankersley from Clemson

2. DT - Chris Wormsley from Michigan

3. WR - JuJu Smith-Schuster from USC

4. DT - Carlos Watkins from Clemson

5. DE - DeMarcus Walker from Florida State

6. RB/ATH - Curtis Samuel from Ohio State

7. TE Bucky Hodges from Virginia Tech

Then last second at night I was 2 away so I sent a quick revise for the morning...

1. CB Cordrea Tankersley Clemson

2. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster USC

JuJu went the pick before and I got Cordrea. No hold up, no auto pick, etc.
Oh and my 8 player board I sent last night...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 12:06 pm : link
Picks #1 Carlos Watkins, #3 Dalvin Tomlinson, and #8 Ethan Pocic off the board. Think my #2 will get picked, but I really like my #4 which I think should make it to me. No one talks about this guy for some reason and I think I will get a steal.
RE: Washington pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13425975 SirYesSir said:
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Denver is on the clock

DT Carlos Watkins brings more help to the failing D line of the skins


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and really had no idea who I was going to take if they did.

Thankfully they went in a different direction and the Broncos get to add solid player to the middle of the their defense.


Love both of these players. This DT class is amazing. Maybe one the deepest I have ever seen. You should not be able to get a Watkins or Tomlinson in round 3!
Cowboys GM checking in  
Rick in Dallas : 4/13/2017 12:22 pm : link
Thought we would be closer to Cowboys pick. We like our first 2 picks That should help our depleted defense.
Excited about our targeted players for the third round. This is a very deep draft on defensive side.
RE: RE: Washington pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13426751 Amtoft said:
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Denver is on the clock

DT Carlos Watkins brings more help to the failing D line of the skins



In comment 13425989 jlukes said:


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and really had no idea who I was going to take if they did.

Thankfully they went in a different direction and the Broncos get to add solid player to the middle of the their defense.



Love both of these players. This DT class is amazing. Maybe one the deepest I have ever seen. You should not be able to get a Watkins or Tomlinson in round 3!


I agree, and there is still some talent on the board. Also super deep at Corner.
Apologize for the delay on the Tennessee draft pick  
NYG27 : 4/13/2017 12:41 pm : link
Titans had no second round pick and didn't figure my 3rd round pick would come up this morning. I'll make sure my picks are more on time, including my 100th overall pick later on this round.

Good selection with Ethan Pocic, he was the guy I was looking at.
Not a whole lot of time left for Jay on the Island, either.  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 12:46 pm : link
Only about 25 minutes.
Jay's pick expires in about 10 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 1:05 pm : link
They already selected a LB so should we skip over McMillan? A back-up QB doesn't make sense this early considering they have Winston. That leaves Nico Siragusa next on the list. Do we take McMillan or skip over to Siragusa?
They have Sweezy at LG  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2017 1:14 pm : link
and just drafted Marpet at RG a couple of years ago. They also have Kwon Alexander at MLB, similar player to McMillan. Obviously we all know what David can do... So I'd say is it Kaaya or Siragusa? Their backup QBs are Ryan Griffin and Sean Renfree
RE: They have Sweezy at LG  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13426861 Lionhart28 said:
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and just drafted Marpet at RG a couple of years ago. They also have Kwon Alexander at MLB, similar player to McMillan. Obviously we all know what David can do... So I'd say is it Kaaya or Siragusa? Their backup QBs are Ryan Griffin and Sean Renfree


Sweezy signed a big contract only to spend all of last season on PUP/IR. Can't guarantee he comes back the same. That is why I would be tempted to say skip down to Siragusa. Whatever the majority decision is that is who will be selected as I can see more arguments on each side than I could with Tennessee
RE: RE: They have Sweezy at LG  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13426869 Mike in NY said:
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and just drafted Marpet at RG a couple of years ago. They also have Kwon Alexander at MLB, similar player to McMillan. Obviously we all know what David can do... So I'd say is it Kaaya or Siragusa? Their backup QBs are Ryan Griffin and Sean Renfree



Sweezy signed a big contract only to spend all of last season on PUP/IR. Can't guarantee he comes back the same. That is why I would be tempted to say skip down to Siragusa. Whatever the majority decision is that is who will be selected as I can see more arguments on each side than I could with Tennessee


I agree an OG at this point would be a better pick than a second LB especially when they have a MLB. If you want depth I would prefer it at OL than at MLB if you are asking me.
Detroit is in  
YAJ2112 : 4/13/2017 1:48 pm : link
was looking at LBs, felt like Riley was a bit of a better fit than McMillan and just a little safer than Anzalone.
RE: Detroit is in  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13426993 YAJ2112 said:
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was looking at LBs, felt like Riley was a bit of a better fit than McMillan and just a little safer than Anzalone.


Yes we are moving again! Finally... Allstarjim up again.
RE: RE: Detroit is in  
YAJ2112 : 4/13/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13426996 Amtoft said:
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was looking at LBs, felt like Riley was a bit of a better fit than McMillan and just a little safer than Anzalone.



Yes we are moving again! Finally... Allstarjim up again.


not my fault. I've been refreshing all fucking morning waiting for 2 picks.
Hey guys  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2017 1:51 pm : link
sorry I missed Tampa's pick. I am at work and it is crazy. Is it possible to take OT Antonio Garcia from Troy instead? If not no big deal but that was going to be my pick
RE: RE: RE: Detroit is in  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13426999 YAJ2112 said:
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was looking at LBs, felt like Riley was a bit of a better fit than McMillan and just a little safer than Anzalone.



Yes we are moving again! Finally... Allstarjim up again.



not my fault. I've been refreshing all fucking morning waiting for 2 picks.


Definitely not your fault... you picked super quick.
Dammit YAJ!  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 1:59 pm : link
I was literally going to pick Duke Riley at this pick. I felt pretty confident he was going to be there. I'll try to be quick in choosing an alternative. I already have a couple of options.
Mike  
YAJ2112 : 4/13/2017 2:00 pm : link
saw your post on the other thread to Jay, I was taking Riley either way if that makes a difference.
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13427049 YAJ2112 said:
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saw your post on the other thread to Jay, I was taking Riley either way if that makes a difference.


Thank you for your candor! I posted on the pick thread that since you stated that we'll give Jay a chance to take the player he wanted
RE: RE: Mike  
YAJ2112 : 4/13/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13427085 Mike in NY said:
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saw your post on the other thread to Jay, I was taking Riley either way if that makes a difference.



Thank you for your candor! I posted on the pick thread that since you stated that we'll give Jay a chance to take the player he wanted


We're all about transparency here in Detroit! I'd rather see participants get their player than have autopicks, even ones who make me wait!
Well, I like a few RBs  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 2:14 pm : link
I was going to go Riley, but since he was gone, I thought it was a good time to get the guy I thought would most help my team in the near and long term, as a great complement to Latavius Murray in the run game.

Minnesota wants more explosive players on offense, and Mack is certainly explosive. He has a good combination of speed, agility and physicality in his game. He does need a bit of work in keeping the Duke tighter to his body, but he's a player that can really exploit a crease. I'm really happy to add this type of offensive playmaker to the Vikings, and think he can be a 3-down back early.
Yes we are moving!!  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 2:14 pm : link
great job guys... Andy up for the Giants.
Thank you so much guys!  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2017 2:21 pm : link
I am thrilled to get Garcia in the 3rd. My second round pick came down to Engram, Garcia, and Wormley in that order.

While Garcia won't be ready to start day one he has a high upside and would eventually allow Donovan Smith to move over to RT where he could be an all-pro RT.
Yeah I think that Garcia  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 3:03 pm : link
At that spot is total highway robbery and I believe it's highly unlikely he will slip that far in the real draft. I was thinking the Giants would grab him after my pick of Mack. I actually considered Garcia at #79 overall but felt that Roderick Johnson had a similar ceiling and better matched up with what Minnesota would be looking for in this draft.

Great pick.

Hopefully Andy is around...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 3:05 pm : link
I was going to take Lunch, but don't want to hold up the draft. I have 2 picks ready to go... Where you at Andy!
RE: Thank you so much guys!  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13427135 Jay on the Island said:
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I am thrilled to get Garcia in the 3rd. My second round pick came down to Engram, Garcia, and Wormley in that order.

While Garcia won't be ready to start day one he has a high upside and would eventually allow Donovan Smith to move over to RT where he could be an all-pro RT.


In hindsight I probably should have taken Wormley instead of Feeney in Round 2 and then used one of my 3rd Round selections on Garcia
So for the sake of discussion...  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2017 3:21 pm : link
Who would y'all be looking at for NYG right here?
1) Njoku
2) Juju

Gotta think OL/DL here... There are still some CBs available but probably not much better than you can get next round.

OL: Siragusa, Elflein (can he play G?), Banner (RT?), Holden, Bisnowaty
DL: Okunjobi, Vanderdoess, Jarron Jones, Kpassagnon, Jaleel Jones

I don't think they'd take McMillan, they want LBs who can cover.
RE: So for the sake of discussion...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13427308 Lionhart28 said:
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Who would y'all be looking at for NYG right here?
1) Njoku
2) Juju

Gotta think OL/DL here... There are still some CBs available but probably not much better than you can get next round.

OL: Siragusa, Elflein (can he play G?), Banner (RT?), Holden, Bisnowaty
DL: Okunjobi, Vanderdoess, Jarron Jones, Kpassagnon, Jaleel Jones

I don't think they'd take McMillan, they want LBs who can cover.


Here is the thing... If I am drafting for the Giants I can not go into the 4th round without drafting an OL and a DL. Saying that you can't reach also. Tough place to be if you don't have a OL/DL rated as high. To me there are a lot of options, but I would probably have to Elfein at this point. I definitely think he can play guard and having a player that can play backup center doesn't hurt also. I like Elfein a lot though. More than Ethan Pocic.
Unfortunately  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 3:34 pm : link
The rules say that if Andy does not pick by 4:09 PM that McMillan is the pick
Dang it, Andy  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2017 3:49 pm : link
Elfein was at the top of my list. Nutz!

Very nice selection for the Giants. Good pick.
Had I not been called away from the war room because my  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2017 3:50 pm : link
wife backed in to a pole(!), I would have ran to the podium to draft Elflein. Sorry for the delay. I figured I could post from phone so no worries but the thread kept crashing when I tried to open it.

I suspect Elflein will be an unpopular pick, but eff you all, he's going to be a starter at RG. I just hope the team that drafts him puts him there and makes me look smart.
Come on Andy  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 3:55 pm : link
McMillan would be an awful pick for the Giants. McMillan's only future is at SAM, a position that is of the lowest value to the Giants even among linebackers, or MLB, where they already have Goodson waiting in the wings to be the starter.

oh crap  
allstarjim : 4/13/2017 3:56 pm : link
Should've refreshed the screen before spouting off at you, Andy. Good pick, I'm cool with it.

Enjoy your day! Long wait for the Giants now until their next pick at the end of the 4th.
Houston (Boatie Warrant) is on the clock...  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 3:58 pm : link
First going to start with Andy's pick. I really like it. I think Elflein is a very good player. I like him better than Pocic who basically is being graded out as the same type of player, C who can play OG. Elflein can complete right away for the RG spot, but at worst he could backup LG, C, and RG! With the injuries we have had on the OL this pick is great.

With Raekwon I have had him on top for so many picks. How he can be so underrated on this site is beyond me. It wasn't long ago that he was projected to go in the top 15. He has good size, speed and plays with good instincts. While not a coverage LB has shown to not be a liability in coverage. While he needs to work on disengaging through blocks he showed up on a very talented defense. People can say maybe he played well because he was on a talented team and I say he stood out among talented players. Love the value and love the pick. It is tough because I am a huge fan of my second ranked player who I don't think will make it to my next pick. Can't get off my board though and think come draft time this will be a steal as he will go in the second round.
Elflein was almost mandatory there.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
With so much uncertainty along the interior line in 2018, he provides high-floor insurance at a bunch of vulnerable positions. And if Fluker winds up at RT, Elflein might even find his way into the lineup in 2017.

OT remains a problem, but there wasn't a solution available who was likely to represent much of an upgrade.

I don't think McMillan would have been an awful pick, but picking him would not speak well of Goodson's future.
Ahkello Witherspoon  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 4:36 pm : link
here is interesting. Great size and speed prospect who is actually very good in coverage. However Witherspoon may be the only CB to ever make Deion Sanders look like a good tackler. He also won't pick very many balls for you either. He was one of the top cover CBs in all of college football last year though and is still learning.
Seattle (sjnyfan) is on the clock  
Boatie Warrant : 4/13/2017 4:41 pm : link
Ahkello Witherspoon is just the kind of CB Houston needs, a guy with long reach and quick feet. Houston has to replenish its secondary to keep this defense on top and I belive this kid is going to help them do just that.

On a side note, I don't think I could have passed on McMillan had he got to me. The Raiders (Amtoft) made this a much easier pick for me.
RE: Ahkello Witherspoon  
Boatie Warrant : 4/13/2017 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13427509 Amtoft said:
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here is interesting. Great size and speed prospect who is actually very good in coverage. However Witherspoon may be the only CB to ever make Deion Sanders look like a good tackler. He also won't pick very many balls for you either. He was one of the top cover CBs in all of college football last year though and is still learning.


I don't watch a lot of college ball but tackling is the glaring weakness everyone spouts about this kid. I was going to maybe wait til the 4th for a CB but didn't think anyone with this kids upside to cover will be there. As for the INT's, they may be more often with the mix of Houstons pass rush and this kids speed and length. Plus Houston has the other 10 guys to do the tackling :)
Forgot to add  
Boatie Warrant : 4/13/2017 4:49 pm : link
He reminds me of Merton Hanks the way he looks
RE: RE: Ahkello Witherspoon  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13427522 Boatie Warrant said:
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here is interesting. Great size and speed prospect who is actually very good in coverage. However Witherspoon may be the only CB to ever make Deion Sanders look like a good tackler. He also won't pick very many balls for you either. He was one of the top cover CBs in all of college football last year though and is still learning.



I don't watch a lot of college ball but tackling is the glaring weakness everyone spouts about this kid. I was going to maybe wait til the 4th for a CB but didn't think anyone with this kids upside to cover will be there. As for the INT's, they may be more often with the mix of Houstons pass rush and this kids speed and length. Plus Houston has the other 10 guys to do the tackling :)


When it comes to coverage he is great. I think he gave up something like 26% completion rate against! That is amazing especially when you realize he played in the Pac-12. He has great length and blocked a lot of balls from being completed. I like the pick and he is still pretty raw. He will only continue to get better.
Draft is exactly 2 weeks away  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2017 5:56 pm : link
If we are going to finish 6 rounds we are really going to need to pick up the pace. If people submit boards if they do not expect to be here, 15 picks per day is not uncommon. In addition to Matt, I know plenty of other regulars will gladly assist to keep things moving.
I've had Witherspoon in my top 5  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2017 6:28 pm : link
Since the 2nd round. I almost went CB back-to-back. I love this kid. I think he fell through the cracks in a deep CB draft (here). Love his size and athleticism.
RE: I've had Witherspoon in my top 5  
Amtoft : 4/13/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13427680 Lionhart28 said:
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Since the 2nd round. I almost went CB back-to-back. I love this kid. I think he fell through the cracks in a deep CB draft (here). Love his size and athleticism.


He tackles like Eli Manning with a little less enthusiasm though... covers amazing though.
I'm ready with my pick  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2017 8:52 pm : link
Hopefully, we can make a little progress tonight.
Chargers low key got three great picks so far  
adamg : 4/14/2017 12:39 am : link
Solomon Thomas, Jarrad Davis, and Curtis Samuel with their first three picks is solid.

With Bosa, Ingram, Liuget on the D and Henry, Gordon, and their corps of tall WRs, those would be nice complementary pieces. A couple picks to add to the secondary and I would hate our schedule even more if this happened.
Let's get this draft moving...grinded to a halt yesterday  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2017 6:48 am : link
Cowboys ready to pick at number 92.
FA losses on defense this offseason have made this an all defense draft for Cowboys.That's what happens when you keep restructuring contracts. The bill comes due at some point. This was the offseason when the Cowboys had to pay that bill,especially in the secondary.


Kansas City  
English Alaister : 4/14/2017 8:36 am : link
have sent their board to Matt. Waiting on the pick for 15 hours now.
only 7 picks made yesterday  
YAJ2112 : 4/14/2017 8:55 am : link
lets pick it up!
Sorry guys... yesterday was packed for me...  
Matt G : 4/14/2017 8:58 am : link
I am around most of the day today and all weekend...

Email sent to SEA...
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:03 am : link
How much time does Seattle have to make their pick? Someone mentioned they had until 9:28am. Is that correct? Didn't sound right to me.
Seatlle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2017 9:05 am : link
Sorry guys. I should've had this in yesterday but it's been one of those kind of weeks. I know I have two more picks coming up in a relatively short time and will be on top of them.
RE: Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:06 am : link
In comment 13428177 MadPlaid said:
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How much time does Seattle have to make their pick? Someone mentioned they had until 9:28am. Is that correct? Didn't sound right to me.
Nevermind. Ha, pick is already in. My timing isn't so good this morning.

Here's to a very fast draft day. Happy holidays, everyone.
RE: Seatlle's pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:07 am : link
In comment 13428181 sjnyfan said:
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Sorry guys. I should've had this in yesterday but it's been one of those kind of weeks. I know I have two more picks coming up in a relatively short time and will be on top of them.

Awesome picture. Sheesh, what is he on?
I have KC's board but he's on and he's been waiting a long time...  
Matt G : 4/14/2017 9:09 am : link
So we will wait 15 min or so...
Looks like that guy from The Program movie.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/14/2017 9:24 am : link
RE: RE: Seatlle's pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13428187 MadPlaid said:
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Sorry guys. I should've had this in yesterday but it's been one of those kind of weeks. I know I have two more picks coming up in a relatively short time and will be on top of them.


Awesome picture. Sheesh, what is he on?


Doesn't beat the picture I found when I took Kyle Long a few years back in the Mock Draft:

RE: Looks like that guy from The Program movie.  
YAJ2112 : 4/14/2017 9:27 am : link
In comment 13428206 Andy in Halifax said:
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Starting Defense, seat at the table
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:28 am : link
Ha, nothing could possibly beat that one. Disturbing.
Now we are cooking with crisco!  
jlukes : 4/14/2017 9:31 am : link
lets keep it moving!
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13428215 MadPlaid said:
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Ha, nothing could possibly beat that one. Disturbing.


Maybe you can find a better one for your pick at 93 that is now on the clock :)
RE: RE: Looks like that guy from The Program movie.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/14/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13428212 YAJ2112 said:
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Starting Defense, seat at the table
Whooooooooooo!
Cowboys select Damontae Kazee to continue defensive theme  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2017 9:34 am : link
Kazee had a strong Senior Bowl week and combine. Has good ball skills and not afraid to tackle.
This year's CB class is extremely strong and deep.

RE: RE: Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:36 am : link
In comment 13428227 Mike in NY said:
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Ha, nothing could possibly beat that one. Disturbing.



Maybe you can find a better one for your pick at 93 that is now on the clock :)


Ok
RE: Cowboys select Damontae Kazee to continue defensive theme  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 9:42 am : link
In comment 13428231 Rick in Dallas said:
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Kazee had a strong Senior Bowl week and combine. Has good ball skills and not afraid to tackle.
This year's CB class is extremely strong and deep.


I think Kazee is being underrated due to his lack of prototypical height. He looks like he could be a dominant slot CB and in today's NFL that gets nearly as many reps as a starter. Maybe slightly overdrafted here, but he definitely wasn't going to fall to your 4th Round pick
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:44 am : link
my picture isn't as laughably disturbing as Mike's Kyle Long one, but my guy looks like a BAMF. And, he is. That's why I went with him. Asiata is just plain mean. He intimidates his option was one quote I found online. Sounds good to me. I also liked that he was described as being capable of playing multiple positions. Flexibility is a plus for the Pack especially on the interior of the line. With the recent departures of a few important parts of Green Bay's o-line, it was important to add quality depth. Angry depth is even better.
Opposition, not option  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 9:46 am : link
ugh.
I'm currently dying with the worst hangover  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/14/2017 10:46 am : link
I have ever had. That's all I have to say about my pick.
I sent my list to Matt..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/14/2017 10:56 am : link
for the Panthers next pick. I'm going to be out of pocket for most of the PM, so when it gets my turn, give me about 5 minutes if I'm here and then prompt Matt to pick for me.

Muchos Gracias.
Will have my pick in shortly  
Torrag : 4/14/2017 11:28 am : link
Mulling between two guys. One is a more developmental upside prospect, the other more of a 'bird in the hand' type.
Love to get a play maker like Marcus Maye in the 3rd  
NoGainDayne : 4/14/2017 11:33 am : link
Falcons defense needed to improve. Went into the draft hoping to add some play makers to the D. Hopefully McDowell Pans out and at the very least I think Maye can be a standout special teams player. He did allow some big plays but that's what everyone said about Janoris Jenkins before he had an amazing season for us. Sometimes you just need to be in the right spot.

Pats nabbed Daeshon Hall  
Torrag : 4/14/2017 11:48 am : link
This is a player I think the Giants may be interested in if they don't address the pass rush earlier. Hall came late to the DE position but it made a big difference in his production. He looks like a natural there but has to work on his craft.
Optimus and the Dolphins are up!  
jlukes : 4/14/2017 11:48 am : link
followed by FMiC and the Panthers
Per Fmics note, we will give him until noon and if he hasn't made his  
jlukes : 4/14/2017 11:54 am : link
pick, Matt can submit the pic off his board
I made my pick super quick  
Optimus-NY : 4/14/2017 12:10 pm : link
GTG now, but here's some 411:

A player went before my pick for the Fish at 97 who I really wanted, but I'll wait until after the draft to discuss that. I picked Evans, who is a nice value pick here in the 3rd round with the 97th overall pick. Evans will complement what the Fish already have at Safety. Reshad Jones is a fine FS, and this kid can start and be a good SS.

Miami signed some vets this off-season as good depth at Safety in T.J. MacDonald and Nate Allen, but they still need to infuse more starting quality and youth, which is where Evans comes in.

It was down to Evans or two other guys who play the same position (neither is a Safety). I'll discuss this after the draft as well as the guy who I was going to pick who went a few picks before I selected. Matt G already knows since I emailed him my pick, lol. See y'all later. I don't have a pick in the 4th round, but I've got multiple picks in the 5th round. Cya then mongos. Peace.
Philly ready to go...  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2017 12:10 pm : link
at 99, buckos!
Matt has FMiC's list  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 12:14 pm : link
Did he e-mail it to anyone else or are we just waiting on him to post?
RE: Matt has FMiC's list  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2017 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13428510 Mike in NY said:
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Did he e-mail it to anyone else or are we just waiting on him to post?


It's all the fat fuck's fault!
Eagles need to add weapons...  
Chris in Philly : 4/14/2017 12:23 pm : link
around Wentz. Jeffery signed a one year deal and Torrey Smith is not a long term answer. Matthews is fine in the slot, but we could use a big reliable target outside. Darboh is just that. He can learn a lot under Jeffery this year and be ready to blossom next year.
Got a ton of Gatorade in me and feeling much better  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/14/2017 12:45 pm : link
While contemplating weather or not I was going to make it through this day I chose Tanoh Kpassagnon DE, Villanova. In my impaired state I saw his size and that he wasn't really a reach with the pick.
5 picks out  
English Alaister : 4/14/2017 1:05 pm : link
So sent Matt a board just in case!
Broncos are ready with our selection  
jlukes : 4/14/2017 1:13 pm : link
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Love Noah Brown's upside  
NYG27 : 4/14/2017 1:20 pm : link
I think he's a poor man's Anquan Boldin as a big physical WR with upside.

Along with OJ Howard in the first round, giving Marcus Mariota serious weapons to take his game to the next level.
Broncos swinging for the fences with Leggett  
jlukes : 4/14/2017 1:31 pm : link
yes there are safer picks, but perhaps nobody left in the draft has a higher ceiling than Leggett.

Broncos already have a good blocking TE in Virgil Green, so they can turn Leggett loose in the middle of the field to open up the outside for Thomas and Sanders
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2017 2:18 pm : link
Took Siragusa who I'm glad was available after everything got worked out here. Seattle's OLine problem is well documented. After just missing on Robinson in the first and Moton in the second, I think Seattle gets a plug and play interior lineman here for their running game. Siragusa blocked for Donnel Pumphrey who led the NCAA in rushing this season.
Nice movement today!!  
Amtoft : 4/14/2017 2:27 pm : link
New Orleans (Saos1n) (comp) (from N.E.)
Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) (comp)
Seattle (sjnyfan) (comp)
New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (comp)

To finish out the 3rd round. Let's knock this out! Saos1n is up and EA sent a board in.
Pick is in  
Saos1n : 4/14/2017 2:28 pm : link
Iowa CB Desmond King
I was hoping Desmond King would fall (unlikely) to 4  
Andy in Halifax : 4/14/2017 2:32 pm : link
People were talking about him as a first round pick to start the year. I think this is really good value.
Matt has a board for Kansas City  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 3:04 pm : link
So hopefully EA picks soon or Matt chooses from the board. Love the pace we are going at today.
RE: Pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/14/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13428739 Saos1n said:
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Iowa CB Desmond King


I love Desmond King... He was the player I knew wouldn't make it to me that I really wanted. I felt that McMillan was the better value, but man I think King is going to have an amazing career. He was tops on my board by far.
RE: RE: Pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 3:27 pm : link
In comment 13428804 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13428739 Saos1n said:


Quote:


Iowa CB Desmond King



I love Desmond King... He was the player I knew wouldn't make it to me that I really wanted. I felt that McMillan was the better value, but man I think King is going to have an amazing career. He was tops on my board by far.


I did consider him for the pick with which I selected Josh Jones. Ultimately, Jones's height/weight/speed and the fact that I thought CB/FS were deeper caused me to go with Jones
Man, I just checked in after a couple of hours  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2017 3:30 pm : link
Y'all destroyed my board. Guys in my top 10:

1)Hall
4)Leggett
5)King
6)Tanoh
8)Kazee

Nicely done, real strong run here fellas. Torrag, freaking love Hall, tons of potential if he can add some weight/strength and play 5T.
RE: RE: Pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13428804 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13428739 Saos1n said:


Quote:


Iowa CB Desmond King



I love Desmond King... He was the player I knew wouldn't make it to me that I really wanted. I felt that McMillan was the better value, but man I think King is going to have an amazing career. He was tops on my board by far.



I totally agree, this is a guy that has TOO MUCH film. He's been overanalyzed. He's not the fastest, but the dude can ball. 6+ year NFL starter, guy is just a football player.
Kansas City  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 4:04 pm : link
Has less than 25 minutes in order to select. However, EA did say that he had sent a board to Matt. Hopefully he picks in time. Otherwise???
Pick coming shortly...  
Matt G : 4/14/2017 4:08 pm : link
We also will be going off the clock until Monday am...
RE: Kansas City  
Amtoft : 4/14/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13428868 Mike in NY said:
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Has less than 25 minutes in order to select. However, EA did say that he had sent a board to Matt. Hopefully he picks in time. Otherwise???


If someone sends in a board I say we always wait.
I like the selection of Hunt  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 4:33 pm : link
Starting to put together a board for my pick at 122 and Hunt was #4 on my preliminary list. Some intriguing names still on the board. Should be interesting to see what happens now that you will see some greater divergence of opinions on the remaining players.
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/14/2017 5:00 pm : link
My thoughts on Dobbs (that I got killed for)
link - ( New Window )
The Jets to close out round 3!  
Amtoft : 4/14/2017 5:44 pm : link
Man good movement today... hopefully we can keep it going!
Nutz!  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2017 5:56 pm : link
Kareem Hunt was at the top of my list after Asiata. Hoped he would continue to fall in round 4. Wishful thinking on my part.
I am between 2 players once the Jets make their pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2017 6:05 pm : link
Man, this Cleveland depth chart was brutal pre-draft. Especially moving to Gregg Williams 4-3.
and round 3 is over!  
Amtoft : 4/14/2017 7:17 pm : link
wow great movement today! Starting Round 4 now.
Ha  
Lionhart28 : 4/14/2017 7:56 pm : link
Perine and Johnson were my final two, and I had decided on Johnson but Jon made the decision even easier. I think Johnson is an underrated 3T, does everything well, technically sound, just nothing spectacularly. 3rd round pick, IMO. Probably day one starter for Cleveland in base 4-3 sets next to Shelton. The need at DT was just far more apparent than RB.
RE: Ha  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2017 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13429110 Lionhart28 said:
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Perine and Johnson were my final two, and I had decided on Johnson but Jon made the decision even easier. I think Johnson is an underrated 3T, does everything well, technically sound, just nothing spectacularly. 3rd round pick, IMO. Probably day one starter for Cleveland in base 4-3 sets next to Shelton. The need at DT was just far more apparent than RB.


Like the pick. He was on my short list for Pick 122
Don't have a pick for a long time  
Saos1n : 4/14/2017 8:02 pm : link
Sucks
Im here  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/14/2017 8:19 pm : link
pick will be in soon!
RE: Don't have a pick for a long time  
superspynyg : 4/15/2017 8:27 am : link
In comment 13429116 Saos1n said:
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Sucks


I don't have one in rd 4 either
I know in the past we do not have a clock on weekends  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2017 1:10 pm : link
But I am wondering if it would not be better to have a 6 hour clock or something like that on the weekends so we don't risk not having a pick all weekend.
RE: I know in the past we do not have a clock on weekends  
Anakim : 4/15/2017 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13429583 Mike in NY said:
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But I am wondering if it would not be better to have a 6 hour clock or something like that on the weekends so we don't risk not having a pick all weekend.


I'm here. Ready for my pick.
No need for a clock on the weekend  
Rick in Dallas : 4/15/2017 1:22 pm : link
We have been doing these mock drafts for a long time without a clock on the weekends and we have always finished ahead of the regular nfl draft. Just my opinion.
We've made fine progress...  
Matt G : 4/15/2017 1:26 pm : link
And it's a holiday weekend... Ideally, people would check in to make their selections... Particularly after multiple reminder emails... But there's no reason to change the rules that were laid out at the start of the draft...
My concern  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2017 1:44 pm : link
The draft thread was been active for about 12 1/2 days. There is less than that time left before the draft and we are only halfway through the draft. Past drafts tend to show that the final rounds take longer as people lose interest and/or take longer to make picks because they are running out of names of players they recognize.
we should go back to  
DCPollaro : 4/15/2017 2:01 pm : link
4 rounds!
Agree with DC  
Rick in Dallas : 4/15/2017 3:33 pm : link
6 rounds is too many....4 rounds was perfect.
My concern is I'll be checking this all weekend  
allstarjim : 4/15/2017 5:45 pm : link
with the growing possibility that Kevin in CT will not make his pick until Monday morning or perhaps not at all.

Yes, I'm aware I can simply submit a board, however, that will take me more time to develop to make sure I have a guy there at my pick.

I'd rather there be a daily clock. Six hours for weekend days sounds reasonable to me. Everybody has the internet in their pocket at this point, you would think even with weekend plans you can come up with a pick in a 6 hour block.

I realize you can't go around just changing rules mid-stream, however. And personally, I also like the 6 round mock... but would rather just have some things implemented to move it along faster, like extending the the period of two hour time limits from 9am to 9pm daily, and 6 hour limits to 11pm on weekends. It may cause a few problems for people with commutes at the end of the day, but I doubt much more than what we have, and we can probably get this thing moving better.

Just suggestions... I appreciate being a part this year.
Come on, Kevin  
Anakim : 4/15/2017 6:08 pm : link
I wanna make my pick!!!!
Guys...  
Chris in Philly : 4/15/2017 8:49 pm : link
It's Easter weekend. The BBI draft may not be everyone's priority right now. We've been doing this nearly 20 years now and it has run very well for years. There's no reason to change long standing rules. If we don't finish 6 rounds then we don't finish it. Who cares? We never even used to bother trying to get that far.
I am a little confused  
Kevin in CT : 4/16/2017 9:31 am : link
I did not pick the QB. I have been traveling for the past couple days for the holiday and didn't even see that I had a pick until now. We have never had a clock on the weekend until now? I have been apart of this draft for at least 8 years now and have never missed a pick. The draft is fine the way it is, I don't get why people would be complaining on how the draft is run, especially those who have just joined recently.
Agree with you Kevin  
Rick in Dallas : 4/16/2017 10:00 am : link
Not sure why we are auto picking on weekends. That has not happened in the past.Let's settle down and follow the mock draft rules as stated on April 2nd. We have plenty of time...
Even though there have been intervening picks  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2017 10:04 am : link
No problem in this case allowing Kevin to draft his desired player
Were the Rams and Chargers auto picks this weekend??  
Rick in Dallas : 4/16/2017 10:08 am : link

did Matt receive players boards from both teams for their picks in round 4???
I received their picks  
Matt G : 4/16/2017 10:21 am : link
...
No picks on weekends  
jlukes : 4/16/2017 10:29 am : link
and 4 rounds should be it.
Should have been no auto-picks on weekends  
jlukes : 4/16/2017 10:32 am : link
unless an owner explicitly states that he is fine to have a pick from his board made on the weekend
I think Matt does an excellent job with the draft  
Kevin in CT : 4/16/2017 10:32 am : link
Rules were put into place a long time ago with the mock draft that their would be no clock. I checked the draft Friday afternoon and knew I would not be drafting for awhile. I knew there would be no clock on the weekend, especially a holiday weekend with traveling involved. I have been traveling with my wife and newborn and BBI/email were definitely not on my mind. I would have never selected a QB in this draft. So, I'd still like Jourdan Lewis.
RE: I am a little confused  
allstarjim : 4/16/2017 10:49 am : link
In comment 13430081 Kevin in CT said:
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I did not pick the QB. I have been traveling for the past couple days for the holiday and didn't even see that I had a pick until now. We have never had a clock on the weekend until now? I have been apart of this draft for at least 8 years now and have never missed a pick. The draft is fine the way it is, I don't get why people would be complaining on how the draft is run, especially those who have just joined recently.


I'm fairly sure this is directed at least partially to me, and to that I say, maybe you missed the part where I said, "I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES MID-STREAM," and, that it was "JUST A SUGGESTION." So characterizing it as "people complaining" is, to say it politely, bullshit.

I know everybody has priorities, and I'm not trying to change anything. But it's not like it's that hard to check in every now and then. You can literally check where the order is at whilst taking a shit. I'm not the one who decided to auto-pick for you, and neither did anyone else who "recently joined." As far as I can tell, Matt made that call, so take it up with him and leave others out of it. People are allowed to share their opinions, even those who "recently joined."

And by the way  
allstarjim : 4/16/2017 10:52 am : link
Congrats on the new addition to your family.
I don't mind when the draft goes past 4 rounds  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2017 11:05 am : link
Usually it is reliant on how quickly we complete the early rounds. If we get them done fast enough before the real draft takes place, taking a shot at a 5th and a 6th round is doable. I like researching the players, and trying to find those late round hidden gems. This year, for whatever reason, our progress hasn't been as swift. But that doesn't mean it isn't a success if we don't make it to the 6th round. I am looking forward to completing as much as we can. And then reviewing our final results.
Kevin... thanks for checking in...  
Matt G : 4/16/2017 11:43 am : link
Change will be made...
Washington's pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/16/2017 12:03 pm : link
Dede Westbrook, WR Oklahoma


Fat Man in Charlotte is otc.
I would strongly recommend everyone to relax...  
Matt G : 4/16/2017 12:04 pm : link
Stop with the armchair quarterbacking and enjoy the holiday weekend... This will get done in due course... It always does...
the 'clock' doesn't run on the weekends for picks  
Torrag : 4/16/2017 12:11 pm : link
It never has and never will.
I'm relaxed  
allstarjim : 4/16/2017 12:13 pm : link
And I wish everyone a great weekend.

But if you take a shot at people, then expect them to respond.

Seriously, Happy Easter everyone. I recognize this is for fun and I wouldn't have chimed in if others weren't already discussing it.

By the way, SirYesSir, great pick with Westbrook. I was licking my chops preparing to draft him if he could've just fallen 6 more picks.
RE: Washington's pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13430188 SirYesSir said:
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Dede Westbrook, WR Oklahoma


Fat Man in Charlotte is otc.


I've had Westbrook on my shortlist for a while. What I didn't realize before my draft research though was that he had multiple arrests when he was in JUCO. Couldn't find much more but there are some off field concerns with him. Explosive talent though...
Sorry, guys. I'm out for the afternoon, but I can make the pick. I  
Anakim : 4/16/2017 12:39 pm : link
Need to know who are like the top 15 players still available?
Accourding to Tony Pauline, several teams pulled him from their board  
Matt G : 4/16/2017 12:43 pm : link
"Beside the reasons previously mentioned such as declining an invitation to the Senior Bowl then not participating in combine workouts, I’ve been told Westbrook’s interviews here in Indianapolis have been horrible. Those at the interviews say Westbrook has been guarded and seemed untruthful. There are also off the field issues, many well documented and some more of a personality nature."
RE: Sorry, guys. I'm out for the afternoon, but I can make the pick. I  
DCPollaro : 4/16/2017 12:47 pm : link
In comment 13430215 Anakim said:
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Need to know who are like the top 15 players still available?


from the BBI mock spreadsheet in order

*Brad Kaaya QB Miami (Fla.)
Zach Banner OG USC
*Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State
Will Holden OT Vanderbilt
Tyler Orlosky C West Virginia
*Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
Isaac Rochell DE Notre Dame
*Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA
Danny Isidora OG Miami (Fla.)
Eddie Jackson SS Alabama
Carroll Phillips OLB Illinois
Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
Jalen Myrick CB Minnesota
Conor McDermott OT UCLA
*Brian Hill RB Wyoming
Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia
Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
Keionta Davis DE Chattanooga
*David Sharpe OT Florida
RE: RE: Sorry, guys. I'm out for the afternoon, but I can make the pick. I  
Anakim : 4/16/2017 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13430218 DCPollaro said:
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In comment 13430215 Anakim said:


Quote:


Need to know who are like the top 15 players still available?



from the BBI mock spreadsheet in order

*Brad Kaaya QB Miami (Fla.)
Zach Banner OG USC
*Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State
Will Holden OT Vanderbilt
Tyler Orlosky C West Virginia
*Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
Isaac Rochell DE Notre Dame
*Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA
Danny Isidora OG Miami (Fla.)
Eddie Jackson SS Alabama
Carroll Phillips OLB Illinois
Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
Jalen Myrick CB Minnesota
Conor McDermott OT UCLA
*Brian Hill RB Wyoming
Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia
Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
Keionta Davis DE Chattanooga
*David Sharpe OT Florida


Thanks. Pick is coming in
5 person board sent to Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2017 4:07 pm : link
If I am up at 122 and it has been a reasonable amount of time after the previous pick he can select from that
Matt is my hero..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/17/2017 8:19 am : link
and THE MAN.

Not for running the draft, but because he's the first BBI'er to select a Bucknell player. Evah!
RE: Matt is my hero..  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 9:18 am : link
In comment 13430938 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and THE MAN.

Not for running the draft, but because he's the first BBI'er to select a Bucknell player. Evah!


It's the little things that make all the difference.
FMIC  
Matt G : 4/17/2017 9:50 am : link
I was hoping to grab him late 4 or early 5, but my board got crushed when Chad Hansen, Trey Hendrickson and Larry Ogunjobi all went right in front of me...

Julie'n Davenport is an interesting prospect... Obviously, playing for a small but highly esteemed university, makes him a bit of an unknown, but he dominated his competition and has elite measurables for the position... Marpet went RD2 in 2015 out of Hobart and has managed to make the transition, so we will see if Davenport can do the same...
RE: FMIC  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 9:53 am : link
In comment 13431030 Matt G said:
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I was hoping to grab him late 4 or early 5, but my board got crushed when Chad Hansen, Trey Hendrickson and Larry Ogunjobi all went right in front of me...

Julie'n Davenport is an interesting prospect... Obviously, playing for a small but highly esteemed university, makes him a bit of an unknown, but he dominated his competition and has elite measurables for the position... Marpet went RD2 in 2015 out of Hobart and has managed to make the transition, so we will see if Davenport can do the same...


That is why I waited until after you picked for me to send you my board :)

A lot of interesting names still on the board even if not necessarily at positions I would draft for the Ravens in Round 4 because the do not fit the schemes the Ravens run and there are comparable players who do fit.
I don't use anyone's board...  
Matt G : 4/17/2017 10:02 am : link
...
There are still a bunch of defensive linemen  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2017 10:28 am : link
on the board that I think can contribute year one. Really deep draft there and in the secondary. Giants were wise to not overpay Hank.
Matt got your email  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 10:43 am : link
Saw I'm on the clock, a pick is upcoming. A lot of movement between last night and this morning!
Pick 122 for the Ravens is in  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 12:04 pm : link
Even though I landed Josh Jones earlier in the draft, I still feel like the Ravens need more youth in the secondary. It also helps that Douglas happened to be the best player remaining on my draft board. I have missed out on a few players I like, but overall pretty happy with how my draft has been for the Ravens. Washington is now on the clock.
RE: Pick 122 for the Ravens is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13431274 Mike in NY said:
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Even though I landed Josh Jones earlier in the draft, I still feel like the Ravens need more youth in the secondary. It also helps that Douglas happened to be the best player remaining on my draft board. I have missed out on a few players I like, but overall pretty happy with how my draft has been for the Ravens. Washington is now on the clock.


Nice pick, Mike. Douglas has been in my top 10 since the mid second round. Another long corner with a lot of potential.
Titans checking in  
NYG27 : 4/17/2017 12:52 pm : link
We're on deck and ready to make our selection.
Matt never uses boards to help him.  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 1:09 pm : link
You are completely safe to send them in. Also great pick of Jeremy McNichols by Philly and Chad Hansen by the LA. McNichols is great. He has great hands and a great runner. I had him #3 on my board for my for my 3rd round pick behind only Raekwon and Desmond King. Hansen is very under rated on this site. No way he makes the 4th round. I think he could go in the second and I have him #4 on my board for my 3rd round pick.
So lets get this moving again...  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 1:15 pm : link
123. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) on the clock has anyone emailed?
124. Tennessee (NYG27) Here and ready
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) Hopefully is around
126. Denver (jlukes) Checks in a lot
127. Detroit (YAJ2112) Also checks in a lot
128. Minnesota (allstarjim)(from Mia) Hopefully is around
129. Oakland (Amtoft) I am here. I will make a board though if needed.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/17/2017 1:21 pm : link
DE Nazir Jones UNC


NYG27 is on the clock
I am around  
Jay on the Island : 4/17/2017 1:28 pm : link
I will have my pick in quickly once i am up.
Sweet...  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 1:31 pm : link
NYG27 up and Jay is here... this is moving nicely!
Titans select CB Howard Wilson  
NYG27 : 4/17/2017 1:44 pm : link
I felt if Wilson returned for his senior year, he could have been a first round pick in 2018 NFL Draft.

He'll need a year in an NFL weight room to bulk up a bit but Wilson's size, speed, athleticism and ball skills will translate on this next level.
RE: Titans select CB Howard Wilson  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13431422 NYG27 said:
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I felt if Wilson returned for his senior year, he could have been a first round pick in 2018 NFL Draft.

He'll need a year in an NFL weight room to bulk up a bit but Wilson's size, speed, athleticism and ball skills will translate on this next level.


I don't think Wilson could have been a 1st round pick next year. He didn't have the speed most teams would want in a top CB. He is still somewhat raw and needs to time, but has some good ability. He was in my 4th round talk, but he feels more like a 5th rounder to me because of so many question marks.
I am very happy with McDermott in round 4  
Jay on the Island : 4/17/2017 1:53 pm : link
I took two high upside OT's in rounds 3 and 4 with Antonio Garcia and now Conor McDermott. Tampa already has a good young OT in Donovan Smith and now they have two more young players to mold and as insurance in the event that they can't extend Smith.
As soon as I saw Sy's review  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 1:56 pm : link
I knew Conor McDermott wasn't going to drop much further. I know a lot of people swear by him, but I usually think his rankings are off. Take McDermott for example. I really like him a lot and I agree that that first game against Garrett made people turn off him. However he has major flaws and there is no way he can be graded out as an 80 player. I think he could go as early as the 3rd round though and is a good pick here. I think his potential because of his size and ability are all there. Having watched a ton of Pac-12 football Bolles is better than McDermott although they both have strength questions.
RE: I am very happy with McDermott in round 4  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/17/2017 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13431437 Jay on the Island said:
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I took two high upside OT's in rounds 3 and 4 with Antonio Garcia and now Conor McDermott. Tampa already has a good young OT in Donovan Smith and now they have two more young players to mold and as insurance in the event that they can't extend Smith.


Great pick especially after reading what Sy has to say about him.
I'm here  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 2:00 pm : link
So just waiting for Jlukes and YAJ to select and I should make mine pretty quickly.
RE: As soon as I saw Sy's review  
Jay on the Island : 4/17/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13431444 Amtoft said:
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I knew Conor McDermott wasn't going to drop much further. I know a lot of people swear by him, but I usually think his rankings are off. Take McDermott for example. I really like him a lot and I agree that that first game against Garrett made people turn off him. However he has major flaws and there is no way he can be graded out as an 80 player. I think he could go as early as the 3rd round though and is a good pick here. I think his potential because of his size and ability are all there. Having watched a ton of Pac-12 football Bolles is better than McDermott although they both have strength questions.

I know he is a big gamble but I would rather take a chance on a player like this in the 4th round rather than a limited athlete who is more NFL ready but has the ceiling of a career backup.
I will be honest I was leaning towards Holden  
Jay on the Island : 4/17/2017 2:02 pm : link
in round 4 slightly over McDermott but Sy pushed me towards McDermott. My top pick was WR Reynolds who just went a few picks before mine.
RE: As soon as I saw Sy's review  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13431444 Amtoft said:
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I knew Conor McDermott wasn't going to drop much further. I know a lot of people swear by him, but I usually think his rankings are off. Take McDermott for example. I really like him a lot and I agree that that first game against Garrett made people turn off him. However he has major flaws and there is no way he can be graded out as an 80 player. I think he could go as early as the 3rd round though and is a good pick here. I think his potential because of his size and ability are all there. Having watched a ton of Pac-12 football Bolles is better than McDermott although they both have strength questions.


I wouldn't blame Sy for it. There are a couple of OT's here ranked similarly before it falls off a bit (won't name the others I think are in the same tier because if one falls to my pick in Round 5 it would be tempting), but they look like they fit different schemes. If you want more pulling and trapping from your OL I could see why McDermott would rank the highest of those few OT's.
RE: I will be honest I was leaning towards Holden  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13431457 Jay on the Island said:
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in round 4 slightly over McDermott but Sy pushed me towards McDermott. My top pick was WR Reynolds who just went a few picks before mine.


Sorry not sorry! :) Vikings want more vertical receivers, Josh Reynolds fits the bill. I think he really needs some coaching, but he has a really big ceiling. I think he has the very real potential of pushing last year's first round pick, Laquon Treadwell, down the depth chart even further.
RE: RE: Titans select CB Howard Wilson  
NYG27 : 4/17/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13431432 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13431422 NYG27 said:


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I felt if Wilson returned for his senior year, he could have been a first round pick in 2018 NFL Draft.

He'll need a year in an NFL weight room to bulk up a bit but Wilson's size, speed, athleticism and ball skills will translate on this next level.



I don't think Wilson could have been a 1st round pick next year. He didn't have the speed most teams would want in a top CB. He is still somewhat raw and needs to time, but has some good ability. He was in my 4th round talk, but he feels more like a 5th rounder to me because of so many question marks.


Howard doesn't have the elite speed as the other Houston CB Brandon Wilson but I feel Howard has very good football speed and moves well in pads from what I've seen of him.

His 4.5 forty is the only reason he's fallen this far.
RE: RE: As soon as I saw Sy's review  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13431451 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13431444 Amtoft said:


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I knew Conor McDermott wasn't going to drop much further. I know a lot of people swear by him, but I usually think his rankings are off. Take McDermott for example. I really like him a lot and I agree that that first game against Garrett made people turn off him. However he has major flaws and there is no way he can be graded out as an 80 player. I think he could go as early as the 3rd round though and is a good pick here. I think his potential because of his size and ability are all there. Having watched a ton of Pac-12 football Bolles is better than McDermott although they both have strength questions.


I know he is a big gamble but I would rather take a chance on a player like this in the 4th round rather than a limited athlete who is more NFL ready but has the ceiling of a career backup.


Oh no sorry let me rephrase what I wrote. I really like Conor McDermott. He was on my list and I was even hoping he may fall a little further along. I think he is very under rated and is a good pick here. There aren't that many true LT prospects and Conor is one of them! I just meant he isn't an 80 rated player and isn't better than Bolles. He is probably a 3rd rounder though, that you got late in the 4th! Nice pick
RE: RE: RE: Titans select CB Howard Wilson  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13431472 NYG27 said:
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I felt if Wilson returned for his senior year, he could have been a first round pick in 2018 NFL Draft.

He'll need a year in an NFL weight room to bulk up a bit but Wilson's size, speed, athleticism and ball skills will translate on this next level.



I don't think Wilson could have been a 1st round pick next year. He didn't have the speed most teams would want in a top CB. He is still somewhat raw and needs to time, but has some good ability. He was in my 4th round talk, but he feels more like a 5th rounder to me because of so many question marks.



Howard doesn't have the elite speed as the other Houston CB Brandon Wilson but I feel Howard has very good football speed and moves well in pads from what I've seen of him.

His 4.5 forty is the only reason he's fallen this far.


Well that and how much he has played. He has good ball skills, but he is only 184 lbs and ran a 4.57 at the combine. That is not a good combo. He will need time also because he hasn't played enough. Not a bad pick just don't think he would have been a 1st rounder next year is all.
Denver selection will be in shortly  
jlukes : 4/17/2017 2:33 pm : link
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and the Lions shortly after that  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2017 2:33 pm : link
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No brainer here considering I almost took Henderson back in the 3rd  
jlukes : 4/17/2017 2:41 pm : link
perhaps the most explosive receiver in the draft. Needs to prove he can run some more routes, but will make an instant impact as a return man and can be used all over the field on offense.
After realizing the guy at the top of my list went at the end of the  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2017 2:45 pm : link
first round, I regrouped and decided to attack the S position. Went with size/speed combo of the in state guy.
RE: No brainer here considering I almost took Henderson back in the 3rd  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13431549 jlukes said:
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perhaps the most explosive receiver in the draft. Needs to prove he can run some more routes, but will make an instant impact as a return man and can be used all over the field on offense.


I really liked what I saw of Henderson although it wasn't much. Just the fact he can be a good return also while he learns is perfect.
Hopefully  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 2:56 pm : link
Boatie Warrant is here as I am ready with my pick. I have 2 players rated higher than the rest of my board so this should be quick and easy. Allstar already checked in so we should get through a few more quickly!
Cowboys GM checking in for 4th round pick  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2017 3:01 pm : link
Nice progress today. Still some good players left for Cowboys pick at 133.
Vikings pick upcoming shortly.  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 3:12 pm : link
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RE: Vikings pick upcoming shortly.  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13431589 allstarjim said:
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I am here with my write up completely ready to post unless by miracle he takes my player.
Pick is coming in now  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 3:40 pm : link
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I was hoping Carlos Henderson would fall  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 3:41 pm : link
Because when I Ctl+F his name it was not on the entire spreadsheet. That being said there were plenty of WR's left that I like so all else being equal I was not probably going to take a second WR before Round 6 anyway.
RE: Pick is coming in now  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13431617 allstarjim said:
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You say pick is coming shortly over 30 mins ago and then pick is coming now over 5 mins ago? Come on man... that makes me have to check this thread constantly. Next time if you are going to take over 30 mins just don't post until you can actually pick.
shortly? now?  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2017 3:47 pm : link
I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
RE: RE: Pick is coming in now  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13431620 Amtoft said:
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You say pick is coming shortly over 30 mins ago and then pick is coming now over 5 mins ago? Come on man... that makes me have to check this thread constantly. Next time if you are going to take over 30 mins just don't post until you can actually pick.


Sorry man... a client called and therefore my attention had to be diverted to, you know, work. It's in now.
Sheesh man not to be rude, but it stops  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 3:50 pm : link
me from doing anything thinking you are actually going to make a pick shortly or now. I know know something came up or something this or something that... don't post you are picking until you are actually ready to pick then.

Boatie Warrant on the clock.
I like Dimick  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 3:51 pm : link
Had I not taken a similar player in Derek Barnett in Round 1 and instead waited until "Day 3" of the Mock Draft to fill the need at rush LB Dimick would have been on my short list
RE: Sheesh man not to be rude, but it stops  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13431630 Amtoft said:
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me from doing anything thinking you are actually going to make a pick shortly or now. I know know something came up or something this or something that... don't post you are picking until you are actually ready to pick then.

Boatie Warrant on the clock.


I have two hours to pick. Get over yourself. Nobody's forcing you to constantly refresh. You can actually do other stuff and come back to the thread... it was about 5 minutes or so for me to grab a couple of images and type out my post. For fuck sakes some of you guys are wound really fucking tight.

RE: Sheesh man not to be rude, but it stops  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13431630 Amtoft said:
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me from doing anything thinking you are actually going to make a pick shortly or now. I know know something came up or something this or something that... don't post you are picking until you are actually ready to pick then.

Boatie Warrant on the clock.


It doesn't stop you from shit. I received a work phone call, I'm taking that call. Sorry you felt that "shortly" meant "immediately". After the call I went and considered my choices... plenty of people would consider 30 minutes "shortly" anyway.
RE: RE: Sheesh man not to be rude, but it stops  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13431639 allstarjim said:
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me from doing anything thinking you are actually going to make a pick shortly or now. I know know something came up or something this or something that... don't post you are picking until you are actually ready to pick then.

Boatie Warrant on the clock.



It doesn't stop you from shit. I received a work phone call, I'm taking that call. Sorry you felt that "shortly" meant "immediately". After the call I went and considered my choices... plenty of people would consider 30 minutes "shortly" anyway.


Maybe it is just because I am used to it, but the response was Amtoft's sometimes strange sarcasm.
allstar  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 3:56 pm : link
Amtoft may have come across a little harshly, but he does have a point. If you can help it, it would be greatly appreciated if you held off saying the pick is coming right away until it is literally right away.

No worries.
RE: RE: Sheesh man not to be rude, but it stops  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13431634 allstarjim said:
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me from doing anything thinking you are actually going to make a pick shortly or now. I know know something came up or something this or something that... don't post you are picking until you are actually ready to pick then.

Boatie Warrant on the clock.



I have two hours to pick. Get over yourself. Nobody's forcing you to constantly refresh. You can actually do other stuff and come back to the thread... it was about 5 minutes or so for me to grab a couple of images and type out my post. For fuck sakes some of you guys are wound really fucking tight.


You do have 2 hours to pick, but if you can't see why saying you are about to pick and I am posting now when in reality you aren't picking shortly or right now then I don't know what to tell you. I would have checked like every 15 mins if you didn't post, but I wanted to keep this going with your posts making seem like any second it would be there. Like I said don't bother posting and saying pick is coming if it isn't... just use your 2 hours and none are the wiser that you are slow as fuck as doing things. Unlike you I don't want to hold this thing up so if I say I am going to pick then I pick.
RE: allstar  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13431643 MadPlaid said:
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Amtoft may have come across a little harshly, but he does have a point. If you can help it, it would be greatly appreciated if you held off saying the pick is coming right away until it is literally right away.

No worries.


Harshly? I said not to be rude... Hahaha I love this time of year!
Or I'll just take  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:08 pm : link
as much time as I want and you can just eat it. I don't control you. If you sit there refreshing and refreshing that's your problem. 30 minutes is not a long time, and sorry I thought it would've sooner and it would've been had a client not called. I'm not going to say, "sorry Mr. Client, I'm on the clock in the BBI mock draft and I posted that my pick will be in shortly, this is not a good time for me right now."

Again, get over yourself. It's not that long to have to wait unless YOU are sitting there constantly refreshing, which is over the top... do something else and come back to it. Not that hard. I'm not going to apologize... you have the problem, not me.
RE: Or I'll just take  
YAJ2112 : 4/17/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13431654 allstarjim said:
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as much time as I want and you can just eat it. I don't control you. If you sit there refreshing and refreshing that's your problem. 30 minutes is not a long time, and sorry I thought it would've sooner and it would've been had a client not called. I'm not going to say, "sorry Mr. Client, I'm on the clock in the BBI mock draft and I posted that my pick will be in shortly, this is not a good time for me right now."

Again, get over yourself. It's not that long to have to wait unless YOU are sitting there constantly refreshing, which is over the top... do something else and come back to it. Not that hard. I'm not going to apologize... you have the problem, not me.


Weren't you the same guy complaining things taking too long yesterday? Then you take your full 2 hours this morning and have this little speed bump and can't take any comments about it?
RE: Or I'll just take  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13431654 allstarjim said:
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as much time as I want and you can just eat it. I don't control you. If you sit there refreshing and refreshing that's your problem. 30 minutes is not a long time, and sorry I thought it would've sooner and it would've been had a client not called. I'm not going to say, "sorry Mr. Client, I'm on the clock in the BBI mock draft and I posted that my pick will be in shortly, this is not a good time for me right now."

Again, get over yourself. It's not that long to have to wait unless YOU are sitting there constantly refreshing, which is over the top... do something else and come back to it. Not that hard. I'm not going to apologize... you have the problem, not me.


oh trust me... I never thought a dick like you would ever apologize. Dicks like you don't give a fuck about anyone else. Just know though that people know you are a dick and if you don't like being called out on being a dick, then don't be a dick. Of course being a dick you are to dickish to even realize you are a dick so the chances of you realizing your dick move would blow right by your dickself. Thus of course you would never apologize or care about making people wait as the dick that you are because you think your dick level is little and small and tiny. Poor little dick.
Debating with Amtoft  
NYG27 : 4/17/2017 4:15 pm : link
Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)
Guys quit it  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 4:16 pm : link
The pick is in. Let's move on. Houston is on the clock now. Stuff happens. BBI Mock Draft is not the most important thing in life. Don't get me wrong I do have an issue when, during the untimed period, people check in to BBI and don't check to see if they are on the clock. During the rest of the mock there is a 2 hour cap anyway so unless you were planning on doing a task that will take 2+ hours do your task and check back in when you are done.
RE: Debating with Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13431661 NYG27 said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)


Hahaha... I mean I can't even talk about the horrible pick he made because it like ... I will take up my whole time and you can't stop me!! He is such a toughie that one.
allstar  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 4:17 pm : link
Dude, calm down. You don't have to get so hot under the collar. We understand clients and the job comes first. Just saying that it would be really appreciated if you didn't say the pick is coming. It is annoying if anyone says say its coming right up, and then it isn't. We know life happens. I think the easiest solution is to just post with out any prelude.
I didn't complain yesterday  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:17 pm : link
What you guys are doing is complaining.

I didn't see I was up until about 10:40, so it took me about 20 minutes from then to make my pick. I checked fairly LATE last night and I was still a couple of picks away, and didn't get on to BBI this am until about 10:30-10:40 and saw I was up.

When I say pick is coming in right now, that means I've decided on a player, and am in the middle of posting that player, ok? For your future notice, that can be anywhere from 1-10 minutes.

If you didn't snidely try to tell me "not to post until..." it would've been fine. I told you I took a call, not good enough for you. I guess that's just too bad.
RE: RE: Debating with Amtoft  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13431664 Amtoft said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)



Hahaha... I mean I can't even talk about the horrible pick he made because it like ... I will take up my whole time and you can't stop me!! He is such a toughie that one.


Calls me toughie, makes insults over the internet. Can't make this shit up.
Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 4:21 pm : link
that was a whole lot of dick speak. Verbs, adjectives, nouns. Impressive.


How much dick can a dickdick dick, if a dickdick dick dick dick?
RE: Amtoft  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13431674 MadPlaid said:
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that was a whole lot of dick speak. Verbs, adjectives, nouns. Impressive.


How much dick can a dickdick dick, if a dickdick dick dick dick?


It's almost like he's an expert on dick.
RE: RE: Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13431676 allstarjim said:
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that was a whole lot of dick speak. Verbs, adjectives, nouns. Impressive.


How much dick can a dickdick dick, if a dickdick dick dick dick?



It's almost like he's an expert on dick.


Ha. As they say, takes one to know one. Dick.
RE: Debating with Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13431661 NYG27 said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)


And, I was starting to think we weren't going to get an Amtoft "debate" this year. Thank you, allstarjim.
TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE...  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:26 pm : link
OOOOOOOHHHHHHH

He went back to Junior High circa 1995 on that one! I'm fucking devastated!
In other news  
Boatie Warrant : 4/17/2017 4:26 pm : link
Houston has made its pick and we took a little chance while doing it
RE: RE: Debating with Amtoft  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13431681 MadPlaid said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)



And, I was starting to think we weren't going to get an Amtoft "debate" this year. Thank you, allstarjim.


It's not really a debate so much as a don't give a fuck what he has to say, but, I do what I can.
Boatie great pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/17/2017 4:29 pm : link
He was on my shortlist for 134
Let's get back to the mock draft guys  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2017 4:31 pm : link
Cowboys ready to go at number 133. Several excellent secondary players in play for the Pokes....
allstar  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 4:32 pm : link
a "debate"/fight with Amtoft is a rite of passage. Consider it an initiation. You are now one of us. Especially when you don't take anything said on the board personally.
RE: RE: RE: Debating with Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13431673 allstarjim said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)



Hahaha... I mean I can't even talk about the horrible pick he made because it like ... I will take up my whole time and you can't stop me!! He is such a toughie that one.



Calls me toughie, makes insults over the internet. Can't make this shit up.


Ohhh I like the can't make this stuff up game sensitive Sally. Here is a favorite from Sally herself..

I'm fairly sure this is directed at least partially to me, and to that I say, maybe you missed the part where I said, "I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES MID-STREAM," and, that it was "JUST A SUGGESTION." So characterizing it as "people complaining" is, to say it politely, bullshit.

I know everybody has priorities, and I'm not trying to change anything. But it's not like it's that hard to check in every now and then. You can literally check where the order is at whilst taking a shit. I'm not the one who decided to auto-pick for you, and neither did anyone else who "recently joined." As far as I can tell, Matt made that call, so take it up with him and leave others out of it. People are allowed to share their opinions, even those who "recently joined."

Hahaha love it! Maybe you should have went and took a shit so you could get the pick in faster? Seems you don't like any forms of criticism? Sorry sensitive Sally selecting slowly, sorely shoehorns sensitive sayings secluding stupid situated suckers
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13431674 MadPlaid said:
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that was a whole lot of dick speak. Verbs, adjectives, nouns. Impressive.


How much dick can a dickdick dick, if a dickdick dick dick dick?


Thank you sir... If nothing I try to entertain.
RE: RE: RE: Debating with Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13431688 allstarjim said:
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Is one of life's guilty pleasures! =)



And, I was starting to think we weren't going to get an Amtoft "debate" this year. Thank you, allstarjim.



It's not really a debate so much as a don't give a fuck what he has to say, but, I do what I can.


oh you care... You can't help responding when anyone criticizes you isn't that right Sally?
Really loving Houston's pick  
Amtoft : 4/17/2017 4:42 pm : link
If he didn't get hurt Beckwith would have gone much higher. It isn't like Elijah Lee who is a 220 pound 4.8 speed LB prospect. Houston having a great draft!
RE: allstar  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:47 pm : link
In comment 13431699 MadPlaid said:
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a "debate"/fight with Amtoft is a rite of passage. Consider it an initiation. You are now one of us. Especially when you don't take anything said on the board personally.


yeah I'm done with it.

Moving on.

However, Elijah Lee I know some have him in the round 6-7 range, but he was very productive (110 tackles, 72 solo, couple of picks and a FF), is more of a new school, range-y linebacker, an All-Big 12 selection, and he fills a need for the Vikings at OLB, and he's only 21 years old. At this point in the draft it's just how you rank guys. One man's 6th rounder is another's 4th round talent.
RE: Really loving Houston's pick  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/17/2017 5:18 pm : link
Amtoft said:
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If he didn't get hurt Beckwith would have gone much higher.
Probably safe to say most Texans fans would be content with these picks in rounds 1-4:
25 HOU Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
57 HOU Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan
89 HOU Ahkello Witherspoon CB Colorado
130 HOU Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU

Rick Smith and his staff might be pretty happy too.

We're ten picks from the Giants' demoted fourth-rounder. Players they seem likely to miss out on because of the punishment include CBs Jalen Myrick (undersized speedster) and Rasul Douglas (local kid), OT Will Holden and LB Carroll Phillips. There are still some monstrous ORT prospects on the board, like David Sharpe and Zach Banner.
Beckwith  
Boatie Warrant : 4/17/2017 5:18 pm : link
Should fit right into the Houston D. A BIG hard hitter in the middle. The injury is a concern but its not like top speed was a major part of his game to start with. I think Houston gets great value with this pick.
RE: RE: Really loving Houston's pick  
allstarjim : 4/17/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13431741 Big Blue Blogger said:
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If he didn't get hurt Beckwith would have gone much higher.

Probably safe to say most Texans fans would be content with these picks in rounds 1-4:
25 HOU Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
57 HOU Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan
89 HOU Ahkello Witherspoon CB Colorado
130 HOU Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU

Rick Smith and his staff might be pretty happy too.

We're ten picks from the Giants' demoted fourth-rounder. Players they seem likely to miss out on because of the punishment include CBs Jalen Myrick (undersized speedster) and Rasul Douglas (local kid), OT Will Holden and LB Carroll Phillips. There are still some monstrous ORT prospects on the board, like David Sharpe and Zach Banner.


They are definitely going to miss out on Douglas... he was already picked.
RE: RE: Really loving Houston's pick  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13431741 Big Blue Blogger said:
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If he didn't get hurt Beckwith would have gone much higher.

Probably safe to say most Texans fans would be content with these picks in rounds 1-4:
25 HOU Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina
57 HOU Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan
89 HOU Ahkello Witherspoon CB Colorado
130 HOU Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU

Rick Smith and his staff might be pretty happy too.

We're ten picks from the Giants' demoted fourth-rounder. Players they seem likely to miss out on because of the punishment include CBs Jalen Myrick (undersized speedster) and Rasul Douglas (local kid), OT Will Holden and LB Carroll Phillips. There are still some monstrous ORT prospects on the board, like David Sharpe and Zach Banner.


I took Rasul Douglas with Pick 122 for the Ravens so he did not even make it to what would have been the Giants' 4th Rounder
Still think Cleveland has the best draft so far  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 5:30 pm : link
But pretty happy with my haul for the Ravens:

16) Derek Barnett*, ER, Tennessee
47) Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana
74) ArDarius Stewart*, WR, Alabama
78) Josh Jones*, SS, North Carolina State
122) Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia

Rounds 5 and 6 and the "UDFA" phase I am not expecting to land guys who will be starters for me so will probably be BPA which should make it easy to pick when my time comes up except if it is Friday through Sunday when I will be in Florida celebrating my Grandmother's birthday. However, I will try to send in a board via e-mail to Matt if it looks like there is a real possibility that I am going to be on the clock at an inopportune time.
RE: Still think Cleveland has the best draft so far  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2017 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13431751 Mike in NY said:
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But pretty happy with my haul for the Ravens:

16) Derek Barnett*, ER, Tennessee
47) Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana
74) ArDarius Stewart*, WR, Alabama
78) Josh Jones*, SS, North Carolina State
122) Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia

Rounds 5 and 6 and the "UDFA" phase I am not expecting to land guys who will be starters for me so will probably be BPA which should make it easy to pick when my time comes up except if it is Friday through Sunday when I will be in Florida celebrating my Grandmother's birthday. However, I will try to send in a board via e-mail to Matt if it looks like there is a real possibility that I am going to be on the clock at an inopportune time.


Nice draft, Mike. I consistenly like your picks a lot. Particularly, Barnett, Feeney and Douglas.
Hah - I must have missed the Rasul Douglas pick...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/17/2017 8:16 pm : link
...amid all the Allstarjim fun. Thanks.
Ah, cmon, guys!!  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 8:28 pm : link
(big time whining moment) Only 3 picks till my turn, and I have to go to jury duty tomorrow morning. Can't you help a buddy out, and make your picks now? I don't want to wait until tomorrow when I don't know if or when I will have internet connection. Ugh!!


Don't worry, fellas. I will put together a draft list and send it to Matt. Just in case. Not happy at all. (pity party for MadPlaid)
RE: Ah, cmon, guys!!  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13431871 MadPlaid said:
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(big time whining moment) Only 3 picks till my turn, and I have to go to jury duty tomorrow morning. Can't you help a buddy out, and make your picks now? I don't want to wait until tomorrow when I don't know if or when I will have internet connection. Ugh!!


Don't worry, fellas. I will put together a draft list and send it to Matt. Just in case. Not happy at all. (pity party for MadPlaid)


The thought of annoying you may cause people to wait :)
Yeah, that would be a pretty funny thing to do.  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 8:31 pm : link
grumble grumble.
I'm here to help you out Madplaid  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2017 8:46 pm : link
ready to pick but won't have another pick until the end of the 6th round....
Thanks, Rick  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 8:50 pm : link
See, somebody cares. Bite me, Mike.
RE: Thanks, Rick  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2017 8:55 pm : link
In comment 13431904 MadPlaid said:
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See, somebody cares. Bite me, Mike.


Do I have to? :)
Buy me a drink first  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2017 9:07 pm : link
and then we can talk. ;-)
Pats select DB Shaquill Griffin  
Torrag : 4/18/2017 6:13 am : link
He's a work in progress with his techniques but long, fast, quick, tough defensive backs are a commodity in the NFL. Lil' Bill will fall in love with his tools and see a prospect he can mold into a starter in the near future. I'm not sure if it will be at CB or FS but imo he can man either position.

FWIW after running 4.38 with good agility drills he could very well go earlier than this in the actual Draft...or the depth at the position could make this intriguing developmental player still available. Something to watch for.
Cowboys pick Jalen Myrick  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2017 7:01 am : link
Outstanding speed and vertical jump will allow Myrick to compete for playing time possibly in the slot for Cowboys.had a very good completion rate of only 39%in Big 10 over last 2 years.
Chiefs  
English Alaister : 4/18/2017 7:07 am : link
take FS / NCB John Johnson from Boston College.

A guy who stood out at the senior bowl with his play. Really athletic free safety who can also play the nickel. Good ball skills. 6 foot 2 with a 37 vertical. Quality special teamer.
Thank you, Matt G  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2017 7:57 am : link
This pick is largely brought to you by Dave Te. His review persuaded me that Joe Williams would be a good acquisition for the Pack. Teaming him with Ty Montgomery and Christine Michael will give Green Bay a formable backfield to complement the passing game. A more balanced attack will make the Packers just scary.


By the way, I did notice that my last two selections both came from Utah. I guess I have a thing for Mormons. Go figure.
Pitt adds a weapon  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/18/2017 8:00 am : link
At TE for Big Ben. I was extremely excited to see Sprinkle still available at my pick. I had been eyeing him the entire round hoping someone else would not grab him before I got up to pick.
I will be in a meeting until 10am  
Matt G : 4/18/2017 8:54 am : link
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I have approximately 1 guy I'd like to draft at this point.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/18/2017 9:02 am : link
If y'all could just co-operate for the next 4 picks that would be swell.
I'm here round 4 was a breeze. Will  
NoGainDayne : 4/18/2017 9:49 am : link
Make my pick shortly
Price was the pick  
NoGainDayne : 4/18/2017 10:09 am : link
might be a little early but I thought he might not make it to my 5th round pick and hey, that's the NFL draft!

Might not be big enough but he is 241 and put up 20 reps on the bench. It's the 4th round, if you bring him in on pass rush situations and he gets you some sacks, that's a great pick. I did see in a scouting report that he played gassed at times, maybe you get his conditioning up and turn him into a real OLB, but that might be a pipe dream.

Either way, the guy can get after the QB!
RE: I have approximately 1 guy I'd like to draft at this point.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 10:30 am : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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If y'all could just co-operate for the next 4 picks that would be swell.
I'm guessing your one guy isn't Will Holden, unless your assertion that "Will Holden can't pass protect at all" was a clever bit of misdirection.

As for Atlanta's pick, what does anyone make of Ejuan Price? He's small, slow, old, and has a terrible injury history. All he does is make plays. Go figure. FWIW, he doesn't seem like a great fit for the Falcon defense - but Quinn has made creative use of some distinctive talents over the years.
;)  
Andy in Halifax : 4/18/2017 10:36 am : link
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Colts pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/18/2017 10:52 am : link
Matt G (Cincy) is up.
RE: Colts pick is in  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 11:18 am : link
Go Terps said:
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Matt G (Cincy) is up.
Ballsy choice, Terps. After four "safe" picks that check all the measurable boxes, I like the go-for-broke playmaker deep in Round Four. Cohen has big hands, which might offset his size deficiency somewhat.
BBB  
Go Terps : 4/18/2017 11:27 am : link
I thought about waiting a little longer, but I didn't see the point in taking the risk.

Luck needs a checkdown option on 3rd down that can make someone miss. If Cohen can provide that alone I think he's worth the pick.
RE: Cowboys pick Jalen Myrick  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13432135 Rick in Dallas said:
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Outstanding speed and vertical jump will allow Myrick to compete for playing time possibly in the slot for Cowboys.had a very good completion rate of only 39%in Big 10 over last 2 years.


I love Jalen Myrick. I was shocked he made it to my 4th round pick. I was debating on taking Jalen and then hoping Hunter made it to my next pick. I am pretty sure he would have, but 40+ picks was to risky and I didn't want to lose Hunter who I have rated slightly higher. If I didn't take Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd I would have probably taken the risk. I will say though I think Jalen would be an amazing slot CB so would have been a perfect fit with Tankersley, but still... Great pick and a steal this late!
RE: Chiefs  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13432138 English Alaister said:
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take FS / NCB John Johnson from Boston College.

A guy who stood out at the senior bowl with his play. Really athletic free safety who can also play the nickel. Good ball skills. 6 foot 2 with a 37 vertical. Quality special teamer.


I like John Johnson as a true FS which this draft doesn't have a lot of. I think he is more quick and athletic than fast, but he has good coverage skills and I think he will play. Nice pick
Pick is in...  
Chris in Philly : 4/18/2017 11:52 am : link
We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.
RE: Thank you, Matt G  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2017 11:56 am : link
In comment 13432159 MadPlaid said:
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This pick is largely brought to you by Dave Te. His review persuaded me that Joe Williams would be a good acquisition for the Pack. Teaming him with Ty Montgomery and Christine Michael will give Green Bay a formable backfield to complement the passing game. A more balanced attack will make the Packers just scary.


By the way, I did notice that my last two selections both came from Utah. I guess I have a thing for Mormons. Go figure.


God damnit, before I read those reports I thought I was for sure going to get Williams in Round 5. Especially after SY's not so glowing review. However, having watched this kid play. He's fast and runs so hard, I love him. Not much wiggle, but that's fine. We already have that in Duke.
One of the best pass rushers in the draft  
Andy in Halifax : 4/18/2017 12:01 pm : link
Injury history, no question, and smaller at around 260. BUT, the kid has power hands, great speed off the edge and ability to bend. When watching film on Christian McCaffery against Washington, Matt Waldwin couldn't help but think "Holy shit, Joe Mathis"

I went for a high reward pick, figured this was a good time to go for it.

Link to Waldwin's glowing flimroom on Mathis is below.
Link - ( New Window )
Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 12:03 pm : link
Any truth to the rumor that Utah OT J.J. Dielman is on the short list for Round 5?
RE: Thank you, Matt G  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13432159 MadPlaid said:
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This pick is largely brought to you by Dave Te. His review persuaded me that Joe Williams would be a good acquisition for the Pack. Teaming him with Ty Montgomery and Christine Michael will give Green Bay a formable backfield to complement the passing game. A more balanced attack will make the Packers just scary.


By the way, I did notice that my last two selections both came from Utah. I guess I have a thing for Mormons. Go figure.


If you look at just talent... Joe Williams is amazing! Very good size, speed, etc. While he did have some amazing OL blocking for him he also made them look much better. He is probably a 2nd rounder easy on talent, but this guy has so many red flags in his back he will drop. The quitting and then coming back doesn't bother me as much as it will bother the NFL people. He was having a tough time and really a rough life. However when his team needed him, it was loyalty that brought him back. That is the kind of teammates I want. Ones when you need them they show up. When he wasn't needed if he felt the injuries, the work, the pressure, the school work with athletics, etc were to much and he needed to step away. However he stepped up. My biggest red flag though with Williams is his fumbles. He had 7 fumbles in 334 touches. That is a problem with him and my biggest concern.
Amtoft and Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2017 12:28 pm : link
Thank you for the feedback. The fumbles concerned me, too. I'm hoping Joe can be coached out of it like Tiki was. I think he will have time to work on ball security before he is made the primary back.

Dave's write ups helped me choose Joe who wasn't my initial target. I looked hard at Kareem Hunt, so when I missed him, I had to find a good alternative. Dave found him for me. Thank you.
RE: Pick is in...  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13432497 Chris in Philly said:
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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.


I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!
RE: RE: Pick is in...  
Chris in Philly : 4/18/2017 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13432561 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13432497 Chris in Philly said:


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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.



I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!


That and a PR is enough for a roster spot for now!
RE: One of the best pass rushers in the draft  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13432513 Andy in Halifax said:
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Injury history, no question, and smaller at around 260. BUT, the kid has power hands, great speed off the edge and ability to bend. When watching film on Christian McCaffery against Washington, Matt Waldwin couldn't help but think "Holy shit, Joe Mathis"

I went for a high reward pick, figured this was a good time to go for it.

Link to Waldwin's glowing flimroom on Mathis is below. Link - ( New Window )


Joe Mathis is horrible. He is not a play maker at all. Go watch his sacks this year or better yet all his sacks... It won't take long.

2013 - no sacks
2014 - Oregon State... a legit sack. Bull rushed him man and then stepped inside
2014 - Washington State... no pocket to step up into and in fact had to back out right into Joe Mathis.
2015 - Boise State... again went around the outside and the middle was blocked so he couldn't go anywhere
2015 - Washington State... again goes the long way around and he can't get a pass off with the pocket pushing up the middle so he gets him with no where to go
2016 - Portland State... Rolls away coverage to good, Qualls forces him to run right into him.
2016 - AZ... He barely touches his foot which causes him to trip as he ran forward falling down when his feet tangled.
2016 - Stanford... snap was to early and the LT seriously did not move at all. As a matter of fact with his jukes he almost blocked himself all the time while the LT was a statue.
2016 - Stanford... He gets a legit sack around the edge the long way
2016 - AZ state... He gets a legit sack when the LT runs himself way deep to stop the outside rush and he simple cuts inside for an easy sack.

He is not impressive at all if you ask me. With the amazing CBs, amazing DL, amazing Safeties, etc he should have been able to put up way more sacks just from coverage sacks. Then take into count his injuries to both legs. I wouldn't even draft him.
RE: RE: RE: Pick is in...  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13432568 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 13432497 Chris in Philly said:


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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.



I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!



That and a PR is enough for a roster spot for now!


I agree... This late to get a guy that can play a in nickel with good ball skills and also PR is great. I bet if he ran a 40 in anything under a 4.6 he gets drafted sooner than this. Not sure where he will go if he doesn't run though. To me he isn't running because he knows he will post a slow time. That makes me go... hmmm maybe I should pass. I really liked him though prior to the injury.
Let's finish out the fourth round!  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 1:04 pm : link
141. Los Angeles Rams (BigBlueTT) (comp)
142. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (com) (from Cle)
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
144. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (comp)
Amtoft: Aside from those details, how do you like Andy's pick?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 1:14 pm : link
Amtoft said:
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Joe Mathis is horrible. He is not a play maker at all.... He is not impressive at all if you ask me. With the amazing CBs, amazing DL, amazing Safeties, etc he should have been able to put up way more sacks just from coverage sacks. Then take into account his injuries to both legs. I wouldn't even draft him.
I also wonder about system fit. Mathis appears best-suited to a rush OLB role in a 3-4, and he lacks the length that might induce the Giants to take a leap of faith this early. His measurables are hard to assess, because the rehab process derailed his Combine/Pro Day opportunities. I guess he wowed Andy in a private workout.
Thanks Amtoft  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2017 1:22 pm : link
In the third round when I selected Kazee my other choice was Myrick. Both Kazee and Myrick had private workouts with the Cowboys this month. Cowboys have been drafting players recently that they bring in for workouts.
Los Angeles has less than 30 minutes to go  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 1:31 pm : link
Even though they took an OT already, they definitely need more than one OL. Banner is top on the autopick list. My only concern is does he fit Sean McVay's scheme? Holden is next and may fit better. It is doubling up on OT, but Holden can play RT or kick inside while the other pick is more of a pure LT
RE: Pick is in...  
YAJ2112 : 4/18/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13432497 Chris in Philly said:
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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.


I was between Jackson and Nicholson for my last pick.
RE: Los Angeles has less than 30 minutes to go  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 1:50 pm : link
Mike in NY said:
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Even though they took an OT already, they definitely need more than one OL. Banner is top on the autopick list. My only concern is does he fit Sean McVay's scheme? Holden is next and may fit better. It is doubling up on OT, but Holden can play RT or kick inside while the other pick is more of a pure LT
If it comes down to an auto-pick for the Rams, Orlosky probably makes more sense than another OT. Aside from the earlier selection of Bisnowaty, keep in mind that they signed Whitworth. He's their LT this year, and probably in 2018 unless he hits the age wall. At center, the Rams have an immediate need.
I've reached out to BigBlueTT  
Matt G : 4/18/2017 1:51 pm : link
Give me a few mins...
I'm here until 4:00pm!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/18/2017 2:00 pm : link
our pick is ready to go!
So much for a few minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 2:24 pm : link
Sincerely,
Amtoft

:)
RE: So much for a few minutes  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2017 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13432845 Mike in NY said:
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Sincerely,
Amtoft

:)


Ha!!
RE: RE: Los Angeles has less than 30 minutes to go  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13432746 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Even though they took an OT already, they definitely need more than one OL. Banner is top on the autopick list. My only concern is does he fit Sean McVay's scheme? Holden is next and may fit better. It is doubling up on OT, but Holden can play RT or kick inside while the other pick is more of a pure LT

If it comes down to an auto-pick for the Rams, Orlosky probably makes more sense than another OT. Aside from the earlier selection of Bisnowaty, keep in mind that they signed Whitworth. He's their LT this year, and probably in 2018 unless he hits the age wall. At center, the Rams have an immediate need.


We are late in the fourth and really positions shouldn't matter. At this point you are not looking for starters and a developmental OT to replace 35 year old Whitworth isn't a reason to bypass IMO. I agree with your point though and Tyler Orlosky would be a better fit from a chance to start perspective, but this late a backup LT is not out of the question.
RE: So much for a few minutes  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13432845 Mike in NY said:
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Sincerely,
Amtoft

:)


Hahaha... Can't mess with Matt... To nice a guy and is doing all the work! allstarwhineypineyjim tho... that is fair game!
Sorry guys... BigBueTT is usually good about sending me his picks...  
Matt G : 4/18/2017 2:37 pm : link
And I was only able to send him an email as time was expiring...
I think Houston is killing it this year...  
Amtoft : 4/18/2017 3:11 pm : link
Taywon Taylor is a great pick. Why he is so under rated is beyond me?
I am very happy to get Taywan Taylor with this pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/18/2017 3:17 pm : link
I considered him with my last pick but thought I needed some Defense before continuing my assault on the offensive needs. A slot receiver with the ability to separate is exactly what a Rookie QB needs to help him when he is under duress.
RE: RE: So much for a few minutes  
allstarjim : 4/18/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13432862 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13432845 Mike in NY said:


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Sincerely,
Amtoft

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Hahaha... Can't mess with Matt... To nice a guy and is doing all the work! allstarwhineypineyjim tho... that is fair game!


Can't let it go, can you. Still refreshing the page, little bitch?
Damn you!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/18/2017 3:25 pm : link
that was my pick!! shoot I'll be ready in a bit
Nice pick Boatie  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2017 3:31 pm : link
Taywan Taylor was on my short list.
Nice recovery Pete  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2017 3:37 pm : link
Dewaune Smoot is good value at the end of the fourth round.
RE: Nice recovery Pete  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13433029 Rick in Dallas said:
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Dewaune Smoot is good value at the end of the fourth round.


I like his teammate more, but Smoot is a good pick at this point. The scheme Illinois ran this year did not play to Smoot's strengths, but there is potential with that pick. If you are going to be out for awhile (I think you said you were leaving at 4) you may want to send a board to Matt as there are 2 picks before you pick again
Colts pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/18/2017 3:51 pm : link
I don't know who's up next.
Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 3:57 pm : link
There is a mix-up in your Google Spreadsheet. Eagles took Jackson and Giants took Mathis, not the other way around.
I wish someone  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/18/2017 4:26 pm : link
would cross out the players on the big board draft sheet after they are taken.

Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.
RE: I wish someone  
YAJ2112 : 4/18/2017 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13433112 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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would cross out the players on the big board draft sheet after they are taken.

Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.


You could just look at the draft sheet that has them listed as well, they get wiped out there when they are gone.
RE: RE: I wish someone  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/18/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13433114 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13433112 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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would cross out the players on the big board draft sheet after they are taken.

Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.



You could just look at the draft sheet that has them listed as well, they get wiped out there when they are gone.


Damn I wish I had seen that a hell of a lot earlier. I have been looking at this on my phone and sometimes on my work comp and it cuts it off.
I have been trying to pair a tall, long CB with Jackson  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2017 4:39 pm : link
I had my eye on Witherspoon, Douglas and Moreau. Finally get him in a Dave TE favorite, Brian Allen. Also has some position flexibility...
A possible BPA list early in round 5...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 5:24 pm : link
...based on a combination of updated CBS/GBN Rankings:

OFFENSE
95/98 Tyler Orlosky C
108/125 David Sharpe OT
131/129 Kyle Fuller C
132/137 Jessamen Dunker OG
160/117 Brian Hill RB
126/152 Isaiah Ford WR
137/145 Erik Magnuson OT
156/131 Jamaal Williams RB
106/197 Chad Wheeler OT
148/182 Corey Clement RB

DEFENSE
120/111 Carroll Phillips OLB
89/162 Vincent Taylor DT
122/150 Ryan Glasgow DT
100/176 Davon Godchaux DT
146/130 Vince Biegel OLB
149/142 Devonte Fields OLB
136/160 Connor Harris ILB
128/172 Rayshawn Jenkins FS

Hopefully can keep up pace  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 7:26 pm : link
So we have time for the first come first served "UDFA" period of 5 per team
nice pick of Kittle  
jlukes : 4/18/2017 8:11 pm : link
I was considering him and Sprinkle back when I took Leggett
Jojo Mathis?  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 6:45 am : link
Not liking that one. Too early for a guy with a track record of injuries including two prior foot injuries. The more recent requiring surgery which hasn't allowed him to workout this post season. I'm extremely reluctant to spend Draft resources on guys with repeat leg and foot injuries, especially when the doctors start cutting into them.
I'm out of pocket this morning...  
Matt G : 4/19/2017 8:49 am : link
Will make my pick from my phone, bit won't be able to send reminders... Hopefully everyone can keep it going...
Good morning, y'all  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2017 10:14 am : link
Let's keep up yesterdays momentum! Who is still on the board that we particularly like? Who would you target if you were the Giants?
Was happy to see Sy had Ejuan Price  
NoGainDayne : 4/19/2017 12:11 pm : link
ahead of many DEs picked before him. I was debating if I could sneak him into my 5th round pick. But I think he will put up some sacks in the NFL and I'll be happy I grabbed him.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/19/2017 1:31 pm : link
OLB Devonte' Fields, Louisville

lots of ability as an edge rusher, has had problems in the past getting kicked off of TCU after freshman year following a domestic violence incident

Might be worth the chance this late in the draft

Washington Draft so far

Rd 1 (17) RB Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Rd 2 (49) DE/OLB Tarell Basham, Ohio U
Rd 3 (81) DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson
Rd 4 (114)WR Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma
Rd 4 (123)DE Nazir Jones, UNC
Rd 5 (154)OLB Devonte' Fields, Louisville
4 picks to go before mine  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 1:31 pm : link
3 players on my list, but I think I should be in good shape for my pick provided I get on the clock while I am still at work (as I have plans after work this evening)
RE: 4 picks to go before mine  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13434321 Mike in NY said:
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3 players on my list, but I think I should be in good shape for my pick provided I get on the clock while I am still at work (as I have plans after work this evening)


I am afraid you're going to have to cancel them...
Oh fuck...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2017 1:37 pm : link
I'm up! Hang on...
im around for my pick  
DCPollaro : 4/19/2017 1:38 pm : link
..
Pick is in...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2017 1:54 pm : link
We did plenty of research and we are convinced that Phillips is clean (translation: we don't care, it's late enough in the draft to not worry about it for us). He's got some filling out to do, but we think he can be a valuable guy to rotate in and play specials as he learns how to be a pro.
Any one have superspynyg email to let him know he is up?  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 1:54 pm : link
156. Buffalo (superspynyg)
157. Arizona (DCPollaro)
158. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
159. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
RE: Pick is in...  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13434350 Chris in Philly said:
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We did plenty of research and we are convinced that Phillips is clean (translation: we don't care, it's late enough in the draft to not worry about it for us). He's got some filling out to do, but we think he can be a valuable guy to rotate in and play specials as he learns how to be a pro.


I like your pick. He was in my Top 4 for the pick I used on Douglas and then there was a definite drop. Even though I had already landed an OLB in Barnett, Phillips would have been too good to pass up had he made it to my pick.
Done!!!!  
superspynyg : 4/19/2017 1:59 pm : link
AZ is on the clock
RE: Pick is in...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13434350 Chris in Philly said:
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We did plenty of research and we are convinced that Phillips is clean (translation: we don't care, it's late enough in the draft to not worry about it for us). He's got some filling out to do, but we think he can be a valuable guy to rotate in and play specials as he learns how to be a pro.


Pop that pick! Pop, pop that pick, baby!


RE: Done!!!!  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13434358 superspynyg said:
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AZ is on the clock


Nice pick... I think Sharpe is tremendous value here. Even if he can't stay out at RT I think he can make a really good RG.
didn't think it would take long  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:10 pm : link
for Ifeadi Odenigbo to go after Sy put up his review. The problem I have with him is that he isn't a full time starter. He basically has just been a pass rusher and isn't good against the run. However in the 5th round to get a DE that can get after the QB is pretty good.
Next 4 picks...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:12 pm : link
158. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
159. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)

Anyone have Go Terps email?
Colts pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/19/2017 2:12 pm : link
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RE: Colts pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13434394 Go Terps said:
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dang that was fast!
RE: 4 picks to go before mine  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13434321 Mike in NY said:
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3 players on my list, but I think I should be in good shape for my pick provided I get on the clock while I am still at work (as I have plans after work this evening)


Made it to you quickly brother!
Wow, we are really cruising through the 5th round  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 2:16 pm : link
knocks on wood so I don't jinx it.




too late
We will finish on time...  
Matt G : 4/19/2017 2:18 pm : link
No doubt about it...
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 2:23 pm : link
With Philly stealing Phillips from me, Deatrich Wise Jr. was the next player on my list. Didn't progress as expected this year, but he has experience at the 5 technique and should compete immediately for a role in the Ravens' DL rotation. Minnesota is now on the clock.
DC  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2017 2:26 pm : link
Was he on your board before SY's breakdown?
RE: Jojo Mathis?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13433773 Torrag said:
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Not liking that one. Too early for a guy with a track record of injuries including two prior foot injuries. The more recent requiring surgery which hasn't allowed him to workout this post season. I'm extremely reluctant to spend Draft resources on guys with repeat leg and foot injuries, especially when the doctors start cutting into them.
I guess my thought process was this: this draft class sucks ass. Sure, life was busy this year and I know less about this class than others, but sometime near 100 I kinda looked things over and couldn't find much I liked. I'd look at cutups and wasn't sure I was looking at NFL players. Corn Elder looked decent, but he's smaller than ideal and didn't really make many plays. A couple other edge players looked possible, but I just didn't see it. Mathis looked like the most talented guy left that I had seen. I gambled on greatness in the 4th round of a shitty draft.

Now, I say that and it'll probably have a dozen late rounders that end up in a probowl, but I didn't see any.
Mike!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 2:33 pm : link
Hey! That was my nerdy looking 5T DE I was wanting to select in the 5th round.
Oh boy here we go...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:35 pm : link
160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)

Anyone have allstarjim's email?
RE: Mike!  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13434434 MadPlaid said:
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Hey! That was my nerdy looking 5T DE I was wanting to select in the 5th round.


Ravens like nerdy looking players - see John Urschel
Minnesota is on the clock  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/19/2017 2:40 pm : link
until what time?
RE: Minnesota is on the clock  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13434445 Pete from Woodstock said:
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until what time?


until 4:21PM
Thanks  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/19/2017 2:47 pm : link
Amtoft
Why can't I log on BBI  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/19/2017 2:48 pm : link
using my IPhone?
seems like everytime I pick  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/19/2017 2:51 pm : link
I'm leaving work lol
RE: Oh boy here we go...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2017 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13434438 Amtoft said:
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160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)

Anyone have allstarjim's email?


I think he just created a new one: ihateamtoft@gmail.com
RE: RE: Oh boy here we go...  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13434464 Chris in Philly said:
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160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)

Anyone have allstarjim's email?



I think he just created a new one: ihateamtoft@gmail.com


HA! Does anyone have any tips on how to unsoak a computer screen? Mine is drenched with coffee.
RE: RE: Oh boy here we go...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13434464 Chris in Philly said:
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160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)

Anyone have allstarjim's email?



I think he just created a new one: ihateamtoft@gmail.com


Oh I love figuring out emails... Like figuring out someone's license plates.... Hmmm my best guess... I, hatty, am two feet
Are we doing 6 rounds or 5?  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:17 pm : link
Want to know if this is my last pick.
We planned to do 6,  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2017 3:21 pm : link
no? I am hoping we do, because I have 2 of the first 4 picks in the 6th :)
We are doing 6...  
Matt G : 4/19/2017 3:22 pm : link
...
RE: We are doing 6...  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13434487 Matt G said:
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Hopefully with time for "UDFA" afterwards! I have some interesting people lined up for that if they are not selected.
RE: RE: RE: Oh boy here we go...  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2017 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13434467 MadPlaid said:
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160. Minnesota (allstarjim)
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was)
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)

Anyone have allstarjim's email?



I think he just created a new one: ihateamtoft@gmail.com



HA! Does anyone have any tips on how to unsoak a computer screen? Mine is drenched with coffee.


Bill Chris for a new one!
RE: We are doing 6...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13434487 Matt G said:
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awesome thanks... just making sure.
with less than an hour to go I see no reason to  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:30 pm : link
bypass DE Isaac Rochell for Minny
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 3:34 pm : link
I may have to, that funny SOB.
Will Minnesota miss his pick with less than 30 mins left...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:55 pm : link
or is allstarjim doing his patented

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allstarjim : 4/17/2017 4:08 pm : link : reply

as much time as I want and you can just eat it.
EAT IT!!!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 3:57 pm : link
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RE: EAT IT!!!  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13434530 MadPlaid said:
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Please sir may I have more?
MORE?!?  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2017 4:01 pm : link
Suddenly the cast of the musical, Oliver, busts into BBI and begins singing. BBI is perplexed, wondering where did all these noisy kids come from, and why are they singing show tunes?
And we have Pete on the clock...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 4:03 pm : link
Hopefully he is still around
damn, he got it in before I could post this  
YAJ2112 : 4/19/2017 4:03 pm : link
Pick made  
allstarjim : 4/19/2017 4:05 pm : link
Michael Roberts. Great option for Minnesota after losing Rhett Ellison and not having really anything much to speak of after Rudolph. Roberts is probably the best blocking TE in this draft, and had a ton of TDs. He can play THIS year, and that makes him too good to pass up this late in the draft.
RE: damn, he got it in before I could post this  
allstarjim : 4/19/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13434538 YAJ2112 said:
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Work, man. I checked right before a client meeting, I had still had 5 or 6 picks to go, come back from the meeting and all of a sudden I've been on the clock for an hour and a half. Glad I was able to make the selection within the allotted time.
RE: RE: damn, he got it in before I could post this  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13434543 allstarjim said:
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Work, man. I checked right before a client meeting, I had still had 5 or 6 picks to go, come back from the meeting and all of a sudden I've been on the clock for an hour and a half. Glad I was able to make the selection within the allotted time.


In all seriousness Jim... Don't take things personally. We are just having fun and passing time. Work comes first and we all understand that.
RE: RE: RE: damn, he got it in before I could post this  
allstarjim : 4/19/2017 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13434546 Amtoft said:
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Work, man. I checked right before a client meeting, I had still had 5 or 6 picks to go, come back from the meeting and all of a sudden I've been on the clock for an hour and a half. Glad I was able to make the selection within the allotted time.



In all seriousness Jim... Don't take things personally. We are just having fun and passing time. Work comes first and we all understand that.


I appreciate it.
damn it...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 4:25 pm : link
Aaron Jones is my RB that I love. He was on my list for my 4th rounder, but I thought he would make it to my 5th or even 6th. He gets so little publicity. You watch him and he is great man. His stiff arm is top notch, he catches well, rans with good wiggle and good power. I really hope the Giants look at Jones in the 4th! Love this pick.
next 4 picks...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 5:00 pm : link
162. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
163. New England (Torrag) (from Den)
164. Tennessee (NYG27)
165. Detroit (YAJ2112)

Does anyone have Jay's email?
Sorry  
Jay on the Island : 4/19/2017 5:13 pm : link
I am here. Making my pick in a minute
RE: Sorry  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13434600 Jay on the Island said:
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I am here. Making my pick in a minute


Sweet!
and I'll have mine in shortly after jay  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 5:14 pm : link
checking the options now
RE: and I'll have mine in shortly after jay  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13434602 Torrag said:
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checking the options now


Ahhhhh yeah!
Tough choice here  
Jay on the Island : 4/19/2017 5:21 pm : link
It was between Isaiah Ford and Eric Saubert but i chose Ford. I already took Evan Engram in round 2 to go along with Cameron Brate so I didn't want to take a raw TE like Saubert to go along with two TE's who aren't known for their blocking. Ford will have time to learn and improve his route running in Tampa.
I'll have the Titans pick in quickly  
NYG27 : 4/19/2017 5:27 pm : link
once Torrag makes his selection for the Patriots.
The 49ers are very excited about getting RB Aaron Jones  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/19/2017 5:28 pm : link
After missing out on WR Taywan Taylor they got the next guy they wanted to upgrade their offense.

In the final weeks leading up to the draft, more draft analysts have started to place UTEP’s Aaron Jones higher on their draft rankings. Jones is a phenomenal runner that possesses great burst, balance, toughness, vision and pass-catching ability. My favorite of Jones’ skills is his stiff arm which brutally abuses would-be tacklers.

As far as Jones’ character, there will be very few prospects that will shine more than him. He comes from a military family in which both of his parents served on active duty in the US Army. Jones has a core set of values and work ethic not normally seen from a man of his age.

He can back up Carlos Hyde as well as bring a dangerous passing element out of the backfield befitting of a Kyle Shanahan offense.


Eric Gamboa/FanSided
The pick is TE Jonnu Smith  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 5:48 pm : link
After Gronk and Dwayne Allen the depth chart is a minefield at the position with Housler and Lengel not scaring anyone. It's a key roster slot for the Patriots and Smith has long term upside. Very good hands(unlike Saubert) and AA. The kicker for me was he more than looked like he belonged during Senior Bowl Week and the Combine.
So excited to be adding WR Sheldon Gibson  
NYG27 : 4/19/2017 5:55 pm : link
I was eyeing him for my 4th round pick and super excited that he fell to the 5th round as I was running up to the podium to get my selection in.

Titans need a deep threat in the passing game in the worst way and Gibson will provide that. He reminds me of a poor man's Desean Jackson.
Overall, loving the Titans Draft  
NYG27 : 4/19/2017 6:02 pm : link
Rd 1 - OJ Howard, TE Alabama
Rd 1 - Haason Reddick, DE\OLB Temple
Rd 3 - Ethan Pocic, C LSU
Rd 3 - Noah Brown, WR Ohio State
Rd 4 - Howard Wilson, CB Houston
Rd 5 - Shelton Gibson, WR West Virginia

Feel like we've addressed majority of all their needs on the O-Line, Pass Rusher, CB and reshaped the weapons that Marcus Mariota has to throw to in the passing game with Howard, Brown and Gibson.
Jay on the Island  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/19/2017 6:17 pm : link
Isaiah Ford was who I was watching for my next pick! He is a great possession WR that can catch in traffic. He's getting dogged for his 40 time.
Next 4 picks...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 6:50 pm : link
165. Detroit (YAJ2112)
166. Miami (Optimus-NY)
167. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
168. Oakland (Amtoft)

YAJ is up... anyone have his email? Don't think it will get to me so I will send in a board for tomorrow morning.
Lions pick will be in  
YAJ2112 : 4/19/2017 7:11 pm : link
shortly
Cant believe Ford lasted this long  
jlukes : 4/19/2017 7:13 pm : link
.
Miami is up...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 7:25 pm : link
then Giants and then the Greatness of the Raiders!
3 player board  
Amtoft : 4/19/2017 8:29 pm : link
sent into Matt
Any chance Andy surprises us by not surprising us?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/19/2017 10:21 pm : link
DT (Taylor, Godchaux...), RB (Clement, Williams...), OT (Magnuson will reportedly work out for the Giants this week)...
I have 2 players that I like  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2017 11:06 pm : link
But one that a really want........getting closer!
Fish checking in here for pick #166  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2017 12:34 am : link
Pick upcoming.
I chose Taylor at 166 for the Fish because of the weak depth at that  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2017 2:28 am : link
position. This id shouldn't have lasted as far as he did. The value and the need lined up here rather well. I chose again at 178 and 184 in the 5th round.
Give me 30ish mins  
Andy in Halifax : 4/20/2017 7:30 am : link
I have a quick staff meeting then I'll get a pick in, not sure who I have left on my board.
KC is expected to have pick within the hour  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 9:22 am : link
...
Houston Texans Draft  
Boatie Warrant : 4/20/2017 9:25 am : link
Rd1: Mitch Trubisky – QB – North Carolina
RD2: Taylor Moton – OT – Western Michigan
RD3: Ahkello Witherspoon – CB – Colorado
RD4: Kendell Beckwith – ILB – LSU
RD4: Taywan Taylor – WR – Western Kentucky
RD5: Rayshawn Jenkins – FS – Miami (Fla.)

I am very happy with the results for the Houston Texans. We have helped out our Offense by getting our leader of the present and future. We have also added some great talent (and a little bit of nasty) for our already stellar Defense. I think the fans would approve.
Lot of teams coming up  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 9:32 am : link
Who pick quickly. As I will be traveling tomorrow I hope we can get to my final pick (#186) tonight. Otherwise I guess I will have to send a list to Matt in case my pick comes up while I am at 30,000+ feet
I'm going to be in mtgs from 10-11  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 9:59 am : link
and then 1130-3pm...

I will try to check from my phone, but please try monitor if your pick is coming up...
What time does English Alister have until??  
superspynyg : 4/20/2017 10:06 am : link
im ready to pick!!!
So ready to pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/20/2017 10:06 am : link
and there are just a few picks in front of me!
RE: What time does English Alister have until??  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 10:09 am : link
In comment 13435220 superspynyg said:
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im ready to pick!!!


EA has until 11 AM
I'm here ready to make my selection, too.  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 10:32 am : link
I have three guys still on my current list, so I can make my selection pretty quick.
Almost took Rochell there  
superspynyg : 4/20/2017 10:53 am : link
but DJ is a good player.
Conner seems like a bit of a sentimental pick for the Giants.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/20/2017 10:55 am : link
Great story, and a kid I wouldn't bet against. I guess at this point on Day Three, you're weighing one player's flaws against another's: Conner's cancer/knee history vs. Clement's character concerns vs. a general lack of dynamism from backs like Jamaal Williams and De'Veon Smith. With those options to complement Perkins, I might have been inclined to gamble that one of those power backs would still be available a round later.

Magnuson looked attractive because the Giants have shown interest, and he's among the last credible RT prospects on the board. That's not to say I would mind Conner in the fifth - just that he doesn't stand out that much from the alternatives, except maybe on the character front.
I like DJ Jones  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 11:02 am : link
Athletic guy at the nose.
MadPlaid  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 11:05 am : link
I know you wanted Deatrich Wise Jr., but you didn't have to go stealing my 6th Round pick
Yeah I feel like this guy was high  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 11:07 am : link
on everyone's board at this point. Great upside pick, mad.
Mack Hollins is the selection  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 11:11 am : link
what I found written about this individual really intrigued me. Hard working walk-on who made something of himself. Special Teams stalwart, play maker at WR. Picking up someone like him in the 5th round makes a lot of sense. Adds to the depth of Green Bay's receiver core. Should get added to the 53 man roster on game day because he definitely can contribute on specials as he develops as a receiver. Big target for Rodgers in the Red Zone. Very nice. Injury issues definitely a concern, but what is life without risks. Totally mitigated as a late round pick.
Sorry, dude  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 11:12 am : link
Actually.....IN YOUR FACE, Mike! :-)
Pittsburg takes Jerod Evans  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/20/2017 11:28 am : link
because they are sick of Big Ben's drama. They have Landry Jones, who can play in a pinch.

Jerod has a lightening fast release, and Big Ben'esk running ability. He is a project, but Paxton Lynch and Andy Dalton have both come from this offensive system. He has the goods to be very good, and he had really impressive numbers in his loan year in FBS.

Given the time to sit and learn behind Big Ben, he could be the eventual replacement, but for now, if Big Ben pulls some Farve crap, Pitt has some sort of a backup plan.
lets finish this round  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 11:40 am : link
174. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
175. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from N.E.)
176. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
177. Denver (jlukes) (comp)
178. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)
179. Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)
180. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
181. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (comp)
182. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
183. New England (Torrag) (comp)
184. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)

Get boards in if you aren't going to be around!
Connor Harris ILB, Lindenwood was the pick  
NoGainDayne : 4/20/2017 11:49 am : link
might not be big enough for the NFL but people said the same thing about Borland. (Although Borland obviously put up his stats against better competition) With his production, quickness, and work ethic we are hoping he can be an asset in run defense in the NFL.
Lionhart takes my fallback  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 12:02 pm : link
Really loving his draft so far. I didn't realize that my board was public knowledge.
Cleveland takes Blair Brown  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 12:02 pm : link
Undersized linebacker, likely has enough quicks to play WILL in the NFL. If you get a chance, watch his highlights. One of the most fun linebackers to watch in this class. Guy is not even 6' tall but is just a missile to the ball. Great instincts, quickness and acceleration. If nothing else, will be a special teams deamon. Though I do think he can plab MLB in the league, especially behind a larger DL. Very athletic and strong, just short.
RE: Lionhart takes my fallback  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13435485 Mike in NY said:
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Really loving his draft so far. I didn't realize that my board was public knowledge.


Mike, I just hack you. Saves time on my research. Honestly, I almost took this guy last round. Absolutely love his film. I don't care how tall he is, dude can play football. Such a fun guy to watch on film.
Going over the picks a few comments...  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 12:03 pm : link
DT Vincent Taylor was #1 on my list for awhile. I almost went him last round and then Hunter Dimick this round, but I also had Davon Godchaux and DJ Jones close behind him. To me no way Taylor lasts this long. He produced at a high level, has good size with nice long arms, ran a 5.07 at over 300 lbs and benched 26 times. Players like this should be 3rd rounders or higher.

For my pick Davon Godchaux I had very close to Vincent. He isn't as long as Vincent, strong, or fast, but he is talented. He plays true team ball and a plays his part while also being very good at rushing the passer from the inside. He had 74 combined pressures (14 sacks, 15 hits and 45 hurries) in his final two years in college including 17 knockdowns and 32 total pressures in 2017. I love the value because in the real draft he should go late 3rd to early 4th.

DT DJ Jones is a guy that almost moved to the top of my list after the Raiders released Dan Williams. He is not tall, but a wide body stout guy in the middle. Athletically a man 319 lbs shouldn't be able to run 5.04... The reason though I couldn't put him ahead of either Vincent or Godchaux is he didn't make enough plays and wasn't on the field nearly as much. He feels like a 2 down run stuffer which is very good pick to get in the 5th.

The pick of RB James Conner by the Giants. I am a fan of his. Not just his story which is amazing, but he before his lymphoma he looked quicker than his 4.65 he ran at the combine. I think he can still get some of that speed back. Not he isn't going to be a 4.5 or below guy, but I think he could be a 4.55-4.6 guy. He is exactly what the Giants need to pair with Perkins. A guy who can pound the ball up the middle and eat up yards especially in short yardage situations. In almost 700 touches in his career he only fumbled 6 times. What is amazing about that is most of his runs are power runs right at people pushing piles. Last year 237 power touches and only 1 fumble.
RE: Cleveland takes Blair Brown  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13435487 Lionhart28 said:
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Undersized linebacker, likely has enough quicks to play WILL in the NFL. If you get a chance, watch his highlights. One of the most fun linebackers to watch in this class. Guy is not even 6' tall but is just a missile to the ball. Great instincts, quickness and acceleration. If nothing else, will be a special teams deamon. Though I do think he can plab MLB in the league, especially behind a larger DL. Very athletic and strong, just short.


Another great pick here. Blair will go higher than this. He has something like 4 missed tackles last year which is one of the best in college football. One year starter for a smaller team means he gets missed by BBI. Nice pick.
RE: Going over the picks a few comments...  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13435489 Amtoft said:
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DT Vincent Taylor was #1 on my list for awhile. I almost went him last round and then Hunter Dimick this round, but I also had Davon Godchaux and DJ Jones close behind him. To me no way Taylor lasts this long. He produced at a high level, has good size with nice long arms, ran a 5.07 at over 300 lbs and benched 26 times. Players like this should be 3rd rounders or higher.

For my pick Davon Godchaux I had very close to Vincent. He isn't as long as Vincent, strong, or fast, but he is talented. He plays true team ball and a plays his part while also being very good at rushing the passer from the inside. He had 74 combined pressures (14 sacks, 15 hits and 45 hurries) in his final two years in college including 17 knockdowns and 32 total pressures in 2017. I love the value because in the real draft he should go late 3rd to early 4th.

DT DJ Jones is a guy that almost moved to the top of my list after the Raiders released Dan Williams. He is not tall, but a wide body stout guy in the middle. Athletically a man 319 lbs shouldn't be able to run 5.04... The reason though I couldn't put him ahead of either Vincent or Godchaux is he didn't make enough plays and wasn't on the field nearly as much. He feels like a 2 down run stuffer which is very good pick to get in the 5th.

The pick of RB James Conner by the Giants. I am a fan of his. Not just his story which is amazing, but he before his lymphoma he looked quicker than his 4.65 he ran at the combine. I think he can still get some of that speed back. Not he isn't going to be a 4.5 or below guy, but I think he could be a 4.55-4.6 guy. He is exactly what the Giants need to pair with Perkins. A guy who can pound the ball up the middle and eat up yards especially in short yardage situations. In almost 700 touches in his career he only fumbled 6 times. What is amazing about that is most of his runs are power runs right at people pushing piles. Last year 237 power touches and only 1 fumble.


PFF is very high on Taylor, has him ranked as their 5th DT, ahead of Wormley.
PFF - ( New Window )
Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 12:21 pm : link
nice gif. Wow, that guy flew to deliver that hit like a missile.
RE: Lion  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13435532 MadPlaid said:
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nice gif. Wow, that guy flew to deliver that hit like a missile.


I couldn't find any gifs on him so I took one of my favorite clips from youtube and made it, haha.
RE: RE: Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13435544 Lionhart28 said:
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nice gif. Wow, that guy flew to deliver that hit like a missile.



I couldn't find any gifs on him so I took one of my favorite clips from youtube and made it, haha.

Well done. I got to learn how to do that.
To Andy in Halifax: Since I've been stalking you...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/20/2017 12:45 pm : link
...the least I can do is offer my alt-draft:
023. David Njoku, TE, Miami (!)
055. Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State
087. Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado
140. Will Holden, OT, Vanderbilt

167 was going to be Vincent Taylor, but Miami took him at 166. BPA discipline would have pointed toward Jessamen Dunker, Rayshawn Jenkins and others. I probably would have done the dumb, knee-jerk thing and reached for a different DT. Godchaux, D.J.Jones and Tanzel Smart don't really fit Hankins's shoes, so I might have gambled on Jarron Jones, who looks the part if nothing else. Charles Walker is a sleeper DT option too, if the lingering concussion effects haven't knocked him out of consideration altogether.
RE: RE: RE: Lion  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13435566 MadPlaid said:
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nice gif. Wow, that guy flew to deliver that hit like a missile.



I couldn't find any gifs on him so I took one of my favorite clips from youtube and made it, haha.


Well done. I got to learn how to do that.


Go to the URL below, paste in your youtube video URL, then set the time of the video you want to make a gif out of. Then hit create gif in the top right, it'll give you a download button and a URL for your new gif.
https://gifs.com/ - ( New Window )
Thank you, Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 12:51 pm : link
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RE: Thank you, Lion  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13435592 MadPlaid said:
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+1... that is cool
Miami on the clock for another 45mins ish  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
178. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)
179. Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)
180. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
181. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (comp)
182. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
183. New England (Torrag) (comp)
184. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)
I believe Optimus resides overseas. Middle East?  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 2:15 pm : link
Anyway, I bet he's sent in a draft list to Matt. Unfortunately, Matt is in a meeting most of today. He indicated that it should be over at 3.
MattG  
superspynyg : 4/20/2017 2:17 pm : link
I sent you an email.
Got it...  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 2:25 pm : link
thx
RE: I believe Optimus resides overseas. Middle East?  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13435808 MadPlaid said:
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Anyway, I bet he's sent in a draft list to Matt. Unfortunately, Matt is in a meeting most of today. He indicated that it should be over at 3.


Unfortunately, he didn't send me one... I've been sending emails, but he may have gone to bed...
i am here for my  
DCPollaro : 4/20/2017 2:30 pm : link
pick
i'm here mongos  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2017 2:47 pm : link
Gimmee 2 minutes
So for Miami  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 2:48 pm : link
DE Isaac Rochell?
RE: i'm here mongos  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13435880 Optimus-NY said:
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Gimmee 2 minutes


YES!! Nice way to get in there buddy
RE: i am here for my  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13435844 DCPollaro said:
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pick


Love the Tedric Thompson pick. Thought he was going to be available for my list in the 6th. His pass defense for a Safety is second to none in this draft. Great ball skills and has amazing instincts. He had a QB rating of 21.3 in balls thrown his way to go with 7 picks and a ton of PDs also. He isn't the best tackler because of his size, but he isn't horrible either. At worst I think he makes it as a Nickel safety and a solid backup... that is worst case IMO.
5 picks to finish the round!  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 2:59 pm : link
180. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
181. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (comp)
182. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
183. New England (Torrag) (comp)
184. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)

EA on the clock!
RE: RE: i am here for my  
DCPollaro : 4/20/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13435901 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13435844 DCPollaro said:


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pick



Love the Tedric Thompson pick. Thought he was going to be available for my list in the 6th. His pass defense for a Safety is second to none in this draft. Great ball skills and has amazing instincts. He had a QB rating of 21.3 in balls thrown his way to go with 7 picks and a ton of PDs also. He isn't the best tackler because of his size, but he isn't horrible either. At worst I think he makes it as a Nickel safety and a solid backup... that is worst case IMO.


Thanks..i almost picked him with my prior pick in this round, I even emailed it to Matt. I did see he was way down the GBN big board so was thinking about chancing it for my next pick...but losing Jefferson to Baltimore I figured why not
Homemade gif time again  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 3:25 pm : link
Eric Saubert, the last draftable TE on my list. I was hoping Roberts would fall, but this kid is a nice project as well.

SY's take: "*Saubert may need more time than some of these other prospects in terms of strength and skill development, but his upside rivals everyone above him on this list and I mean that. He can really run and track the ball well. His consistency isn’t there yet as a pass catcher, just dropping too many balls in traffic."
MadPlaid, Torrag, and back to Optimus to finish the 5th!  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 3:27 pm : link
182. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (comp)
183. New England (Torrag) (comp)
184. Miami (Optimus-NY) (comp)

We are really moving now
We should be done by this weekend...  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 4:01 pm : link
As a reminder, UFAs are first come, first served for those wishing to participate... Max 5 per team...
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 4:02 pm : link
Decided to take a risk on potential versus concussion history. Plus, apparently he angered his college coaching staff by not returning from injury when cleared because he wanted to prepare for the NFL. Not exactly a ringing endorsement. I am taking a chance on him because with a comp pick late in the 5th seemed a good place to do it. He was a play maker when he was on the field especially in 2015. Let him work as a backup/rotational d-lineman while he learns what it takes to be a team player.
Just so you know  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2017 4:04 pm : link
I am talking about Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
Come on mongos  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2017 4:09 pm : link
I'm ready to pick at 184. I'm about to get me some. I'm waiting...
Board sent to Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 4:13 pm : link
With instructions to fire my pick as soon as he sees that I am on the clock. If I am in the middle of packing I don't want to hold things up for you's guys.
RE: Board sent to Matt  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13436054 Mike in NY said:
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With instructions to fire my pick as soon as he sees that I am on the clock. If I am in the middle of packing I don't want to hold things up for you's guys.


Mike, you know I'm taking #1 on your board right before your pick ;)
RE: RE: Board sent to Matt  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13436064 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13436054 Mike in NY said:


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With instructions to fire my pick as soon as he sees that I am on the clock. If I am in the middle of packing I don't want to hold things up for you's guys.



Mike, you know I'm taking #1 on your board right before your pick ;)


I will be happy with any of the 4 players on the list I sent to Matt, so feel free.
Pats select Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss  
Torrag : 4/20/2017 4:54 pm : link
We don't do deals in the BBI Mock for obvious reasons. That said there is a strong possibility Garappolo is moved on or near Draft Day. If that's the case they'll be looking for a guy to develop and Kelly has the bloodlines and arm talent.
Miami back on to finish out the 5th  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 5:18 pm : link
before we start the 6th and final round!
Just made my pick for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2017 5:20 pm : link
Going to bed now fools.
Cleveland selects Andreas Knappe  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2017 5:50 pm : link
with our penultimate pick. Dude is a legit viking. A 6'8", athletic, viking. End of scouting report.
Ravens final pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 6:57 pm : link
Don't worry Lionhart, you did not take my BPA this time. Knappe was in my top 10, but I liked Tevi's experience at both LT and RT plus I think he could potentially play OG as well. I also needed to throw a bone to my western scouts as they were planning a mutiny with Arkansas being the furthest west I had gone with my previous picks.
Oh no...  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 8:36 pm : link
why did these get unpinned? We still have one round left.

Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hous, Chi)
Los Angeles Rams (BigBlueTT)
Los Angeles Chargers (armstead98)

Kevin on the clock
I do not think the UDFAs should be part of the official draft results  
jlukes : 4/20/2017 9:04 pm : link
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Heard you loud and clear...  
Matt G : 4/20/2017 9:08 pm : link
last year... It's optional... Feel free not to particpate...
RE: Heard you loud and clear...  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2017 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13436579 Matt G said:
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last year... It's optional... Feel free not to particpate...


Don't mind the haters. It is useful to find lesser known players who may have been overlooked in Mock Draft.
How does FA work  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/21/2017 6:33 am : link
As far as picking?
First come, first served after the last pick in RD6  
Matt G : 4/21/2017 7:09 am : link
Max 5 players
RE: First come, first served after the last pick in RD6  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/21/2017 7:56 am : link
In comment 13436834 Matt G said:
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Max 5 players


I'm guessing 1 pick at a time?
RE: RE: First come, first served after the last pick in RD6  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2017 8:02 am : link
In comment 13436862 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13436834 Matt G said:


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Max 5 players



I'm guessing 1 pick at a time?


Nope. You post who you want. First one to name a player gets him. Most people name all 5 people in one post. Others will try to quickly get a post out with one or two names if they think a player might go quickly and post remainder of their five later
and a lot others dont participate  
DCPollaro : 4/21/2017 9:14 am : link
udfa is pointless!
Here y'all  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 9:44 am : link
Pick coming shortly
You are all welcome  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 10:19 am : link
I contacted the mods about the unpinning. Apparently, one of us told them we were all done and to take away the pins. Yes, that's right, we have a traitor among us! Fetch me the soft cushions, I will get a confession out of him.
Lion  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 10:21 am : link
no gif? You are slipping, my friend
RE: Lion  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13437055 MadPlaid said:
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no gif? You are slipping, my friend


Check again.
Thank you  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 10:47 am : link
Was that so hard?
Haha  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 10:55 am : link
I was just trying to get the pick in quickly since I just woke up (not on the East Coast).
Sleeping on the job, eh?  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 10:59 am : link
I feel empty inside if I don't see a gif with your picks. Think of my needs for a change, will ya!?

I should I have slept in this morning. The commute into work was brutal. Usually takes 45 minutes. Today, 2 hours. Ugh!
Alerted  
DCPollaro : 4/21/2017 11:20 am : link
Bigbluett That he is on clock. Should have a pick shortly
Did Matt already fix the summary from Pick 160 onward?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 11:20 am : link
The list he posted at 10:12pm last night on the Selection thread was off by one line, starting with the combination of the Viking and 49er picks at 160/161:
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160. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was) - Minnesota (allstarjim) - Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo
RE: Sleeping on the job, eh?  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13437149 MadPlaid said:
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I feel empty inside if I don't see a gif with your picks. Think of my needs for a change, will ya!?

I should I have slept in this morning. The commute into work was brutal. Usually takes 45 minutes. Today, 2 hours. Ugh!


NJ Transit?
Just to clarify my question, it seems that...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 11:35 am : link
...the teams are wrong for picks 161-163, then the Titans' pick of Shelton Gibson at #164 was omitted, so the teams are right again from Detroit's pick of Langley (#165, listed as #164), but the numbers are wrong.
Love the Switzer pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/21/2017 11:46 am : link
kid is awesome. Next Wes Welker right there.
Ok lets get this thing moving!  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 12:02 pm : link
189. Los Angeles Chargers (armstead98)
190. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
191. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
192. Cincinnati (Matt G)
193. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
RE: RE: Sleeping on the job, eh?  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13437212 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13437149 MadPlaid said:


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NJ Transit?


No. MTA. The 7th Ave/53rd St. Stop for the B/D/E subway lines lost power. Forced a lot of trains to re-route. Massive delays. Sucked!
email sent to LA Chargers  
Matt G : 4/21/2017 12:22 pm : link
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Matt: If you see this, just check picks 160 and 161 on your summary.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 12:24 pm : link
You have:
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160. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Was) – Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo
161. Minnesota (allstarjim) - *Aaron Jones, RB, Texas-El Paso
I think it should be:
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160. Minnesota (allstarjim) Michael Roberts, TE, Toledo
161. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) – *Aaron Jones, RB, Texas-El Paso

Doesn't really matter. Just keep in mind for future posts.
Thanks for the catch  
Matt G : 4/21/2017 12:43 pm : link
revised
Well, now that Cleveland's draft is in the books  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 1:01 pm : link
We spent a lot of resources towards improving one of the leagues worst pass defenses last season. 3 DL and 3 DBs. We got (hopefully) our QB of the future and added a handful of offensive weapons.

Browns Draft
1.1 Myles Garrett DE
1.12 Malik Hooker FS
2.33 Deshaun Watson QB
2.52 Adoree' Jackson CB/KR/PR
3.65 Chris Godwin WR
4.108 Jaleel Johnson DT
5.145 Brian Allen CB/FS
5.175 Blair Brown LB
5.181 Eric Saubert TE
6.185 Andreas Knappe OT
6.188 Tanzel Smart DT


Browns  
MadPlaid : 4/21/2017 1:05 pm : link
Wow, 11 picks in the first 6 rounds. That's amazing. How many do they have in the 7th round?

With that many picks, you know the Browns are going to be making deals on draft night. I would love to be a fly on the wall of their war room.
RE: Browns  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13437378 MadPlaid said:
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Wow, 11 picks in the first 6 rounds. That's amazing. How many do they have in the 7th round?

With that many picks, you know the Browns are going to be making deals on draft night. I would love to be a fly on the wall of their war room.


They actually have no picks in the 7th round, surprisingly enough.
Jon if you didn't  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 1:25 pm : link
take Vince Biegel here I was going to give you the hardest time. I am shocked you didn't take him with your last pick. Talk about a player you can root for. Hard working talented kid. Love this pick and great value. He is probably a 4th rounder.
Jon has to get his  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 1:33 pm : link
Badger in there, haha
RE: Jon has to get his  
Jon in NYC : 4/21/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13437430 Lionhart28 said:
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Badger in there, haha


Haha I took two!

Biegel's a steal in the 6th. He'll never be a gamechanger but he's a smart dependable guy and at the very least will be a special teams staple.
The Eagles sent up...  
Chris in Philly : 4/21/2017 2:13 pm : link
a drunk South Philly goomba to make their final pick. Jordan Morgan was our highest rated player remaining. He's a developmental pick who is a local kid from a small school not far from here. It was his week in Mobile though that showed he is worth taking and trying to groom.
The Eagles draft is complete  
Chris in Philly : 4/21/2017 2:21 pm : link
Pundits from the Philadelphia Daily News are giving us high marks, while callers on WIP are ripping us for not taking a RB in the first round.

We didn't have all the extra picks to play with that we so often have in the past, but special thanks to the Vikings for giving us their first rounder for Sam Bradford.

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Our draft:

14 Gareon Conley CB Ohio State
43 Dion Dawkins OG Temple
99 Amara Darboh WR Michigan
118 Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State
139 Eddie Jackson SS Alabama
155 Carroll Phillips OLB Illinois
196 Jordan Morgan OG Kutztown St.

Thanks Matt for running things so smoothly...
The Eagles draft is complete  
Chris in Philly : 4/21/2017 2:22 pm : link
Pundits from the Philadelphia Daily News are giving us high marks, while callers on WIP are ripping us for not taking a RB in the first round.

We didn't have all the extra picks to play with that we so often have in the past, but special thanks to the Vikings for giving us their first rounder for Sam Bradford.



Our draft:

14 Gareon Conley CB Ohio State
43 Dion Dawkins OG Temple
99 Amara Darboh WR Michigan
118 Jeremy McNichols RB Boise State
139 Eddie Jackson SS Alabama
155 Carroll Phillips OLB Illinois
196 Jordan Morgan OG Kutztown St.

Thanks Matt for running things so smoothly...
RE: RE: Jon has to get his  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13437437 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13437430 Lionhart28 said:


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Badger in there, haha



Haha I took two!

Biegel's a steal in the 6th. He'll never be a gamechanger but he's a smart dependable guy and at the very least will be a special teams staple.


Yeah, I love that kid. If nothing else. ST caiptain for 5 years. I had him on my list for a while but with Cleveland switching to a 4-3, he's an odd fit. I got my Nittany Lion and I'll probably try to grab one more in UDFAs haha
Lets keep this moving...  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 2:35 pm : link
195. Buffalo (superspynyg)
196. New Orleans (Saos1n)
197. Arizona (DCPollaro)
198. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Bal)
199. Minnesota (allstarjim)
200. New England (Torrag) (from Ind)
201. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
202. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Den)

superspynyg is on the clock!
RE: The Eagles draft is complete  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 2:58 pm : link
Very nice draft, Chris. Here's hoping the Eagles screw up when it counts.
RE: Well, now that Cleveland's draft is in the books  
GuzzaBlue : 4/21/2017 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13437376 Lionhart28 said:
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We spent a lot of resources towards improving one of the leagues worst pass defenses last season. 3 DL and 3 DBs. We got (hopefully) our QB of the future and added a handful of offensive weapons.

Browns Draft
1.1 Myles Garrett DE
1.12 Malik Hooker FS
2.33 Deshaun Watson QB
2.52 Adoree' Jackson CB/KR/PR
3.65 Chris Godwin WR
4.108 Jaleel Johnson DT
5.145 Brian Allen CB/FS
5.175 Blair Brown LB
5.181 Eric Saubert TE
6.185 Andreas Knappe OT
6.188 Tanzel Smart DT



Perfect first 3 picks in my mind and a hell of a draft overall for them.
Speaking of nice drafts...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 3:21 pm : link
...my "bang-for-the-buck" award (without ever having seen most of these kids play) goes to the Chargers and Texans, with honorable mention to the Bucs. The Browns and 49ers reeled in a lot of talent too - maybe even more than their favorable draft position would have predicted.

"Most Intriguing Draft Class" goes to the Saints. Who gets the first drug suspension, Foster or Tabor? Who gets the first jail sentence, Foster or Mixon? Will King draw the first flag for a flagrant foul? Will Kizer ever see the field?
BBB  
armstead98 : 4/21/2017 3:37 pm : link
As GM of the Chargers, thanks!
3-player board sent to Matt.  
allstarjim : 4/21/2017 4:06 pm : link
.
Pete with 2 of the next 5...  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 4:29 pm : link
198. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Bal)
199. Minnesota (allstarjim)
200. New England (Torrag) (from Ind)
201. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
202. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Den)

Lets go Pete... get these picks in.
Arizona is done drafting  
DCPollaro : 4/21/2017 4:31 pm : link
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RD 1 13 Arizona (DCPollaro) Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
RD 2 45 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Quincy Wilson CB Florida
RD 3 77 Arizona (DCPollaro) Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh
RD 4 119 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
RD 5 157 Arizona (DCPollaro) Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
RD 5 179 Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)Tedric Thompson SS Colorado
RD 6 197 Arizona (DCPollaro) Jamaal Williams RB BYU

RE: Arizona is done drafting  
Lionhart28 : 4/21/2017 4:35 pm : link
In comment 13437794 DCPollaro said:
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RD 1 13 Arizona (DCPollaro) Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
RD 2 45 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Quincy Wilson CB Florida
RD 3 77 Arizona (DCPollaro) Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh
RD 4 119 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
RD 5 157 Arizona (DCPollaro) Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
RD 5 179 Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)Tedric Thompson SS Colorado
RD 6 197 Arizona (DCPollaro) Jamaal Williams RB BYU


The rare back-to-back Wildcats! Nice draft, I really like Walker. Dude can play.
RE: Arizona is done drafting  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 4:38 pm : link
DCPollaro said:
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RD 1 13 Arizona (DCPollaro) Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
RD 2 45 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Quincy Wilson CB Florida
RD 3 77 Arizona (DCPollaro) Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh
RD 4 119 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
RD 5 157 Arizona (DCPollaro) Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
RD 5 179 Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)Tedric Thompson SS Colorado
RD 6 197 Arizona (DCPollaro) Jamaal Williams RB BYU
I was about to commend you on a nice haul until I saw that gif of Williams not getting a first down. Wimp.
RE: RE: Arizona is done drafting  
DCPollaro : 4/21/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13437805 Big Blue Blogger said:
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DCPollaro said:

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RD 1 13 Arizona (DCPollaro) Corey Davis WR Western Michigan
RD 2 45 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Quincy Wilson CB Florida
RD 3 77 Arizona (DCPollaro) Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh
RD 4 119 Arizona (DCPollaro) *Anthony Walker Jr. ILB Northwestern
RD 5 157 Arizona (DCPollaro) Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
RD 5 179 Arizona (DCPollaro) (comp)Tedric Thompson SS Colorado
RD 6 197 Arizona (DCPollaro) Jamaal Williams RB BYU

I was about to commend you on a nice haul until I saw that gif of Williams not getting a first down. Wimp.


ha! i was going to post this one
Meh - he whiffed on the stiff-arm at the end.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 4:42 pm : link
Pass.

Seriously, I was hoping Williams would be on the board a little longer so Andy could piss me off by not taking him.
I really like Cleveland's draft  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2017 4:44 pm : link
And not just because Lionhart took a bunch of players I was looking at. Happier with my draft for the Ravens than I have been in recent drafts.

Round 1 - Derek Barnett, ER, Tennessee
Round 2 - Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana
Round 3 - ArDarius Stewart, WR, Alabama
Round 3 - Josh Jones, SS, North Carolina State
Round 4 - Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia
Round 5 - Deatrich Wise Jr., 5T, Arkansas
Round 6 - Sam Tevi, OT, Utah

Scouting the undrafted and making phone calls to see who wants to join the fold.
Sam Tevi  
allstarjim : 4/21/2017 4:51 pm : link
I think is not a good enough player to stay on an NFL roster for very long, but otherwise, tremendous draft.
RE: Sam Tevi  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2017 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13437826 allstarjim said:
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I think is not a good enough player to stay on an NFL roster for very long, but otherwise, tremendous draft.


It is a 6th round pick. I could have gambled on him making it to the "UDFA" phase, but there were not many OT's that I saw left who could provide depth at RT. Looking more for a Bobby Hart/Marshall Newhouse-type role.
Torrag on the clock  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 5:41 pm : link
200. New England (Torrag) (from Ind)
201. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
202. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Den)
203. Denver (jlukes) (from Ten)
204. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
205. Detroit (YAJ2112)
206. Los Angeles Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia)
207. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
208. Oakland (Amtoft)

Sitting at a 9 player board... if we could get in some more picks for me that would be great!
9 player board sent to Matt  
Amtoft : 4/21/2017 7:32 pm : link
Assuming it will hit me over the weekend
Well, the Vikings have concluded their 6-round draft  
allstarjim : 4/21/2017 7:47 pm : link
No first rounder, but they definitely helped their team by getting

Rd 2 DT Caleb Brantley, Florida
Rd 3 OT Roderick Johnson, FSU
Rd 3 RB Marlon Mack, USF
Rd 4 WR Josh Reynolds, Texas A&M
Rd 4 LB Elijah Lee, Kansas State
Rd 5 TE Michael Roberts, Toledo
Rd 6 FS David Jones, Richmond Spiders

Got some help in the trenches, and really believe Marlon Mack and Josh Reynolds will help the offense in getting them more big play ability and chunk yardage.

Michael Roberts was a great replacement pick for Rhett Ellison, and David Jones, fresh off a tremendous Pro Day, will compete early for a Safety spot, a trouble area. Really believe Jones is a nice sleeper in this draft.
Pats select Jessamen Dunker OL Tennessee State  
Torrag : 4/21/2017 8:02 pm : link
Mobility and moldable athletic traits make him an intriguing prospect. He's developmental but the Pats can give him some time to see what he can do.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/21/2017 9:36 pm : link
we go with K Zane Gonzalez - worth a late round pick to get a talented special teamer for several years at a low price

Pete from Woodcock on the clock
My bad  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/21/2017 9:54 pm : link
I gave Matt my pick earlier but decided to go a different route.. Sorry guys, sorry Matt
I am up  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2017 10:54 pm : link
This pick is for Sy
I am not going to pretend I know much  
Jay on the Island : 4/21/2017 11:00 pm : link
about Samson Ebukam but Sy's write up made it too difficult to pass up. I was leaning towards DT Josh Tupou but Sy swayed me towards Ekubam's upside. Late in the draft is the perfect time to take chances on high upside small school kids.
RE: I am not going to pretend I know much  
Mike in NY : 4/22/2017 6:17 am : link
In comment 13438197 Jay on the Island said:
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about Samson Ebukam but Sy's write up made it too difficult to pass up. I was leaning towards DT Josh Tupou but Sy swayed me towards Ekubam's upside. Late in the draft is the perfect time to take chances on high upside small school kids.


I thought I was going to land him as a UDFA and then I saw Sy's scouting report.
Great progress made in the mock draft this week  
Rick in Dallas : 4/22/2017 8:52 am : link
Checking in since my last pick in the fourth round. Great job you all. We will finish the 6th round for sure on Monday way ahead of the actual draft. Please no auto picks this weekend.
As always a great job Matt G. You are a great commish....
I'm leaving for a hockey tournament in a few but will send Matt a list  
Andy in Halifax : 4/22/2017 9:01 am : link
Don't wait for me. It would really suck if both those players are taken in the next two picks but the odds of that are remote.
Washington pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/22/2017 5:52 pm : link
taking Michigan Tackle Ben Braden

Big strong guy who's pretty mobile. Could see him ending up at guard and helping the Washington Line

sjnyfan on the clock
I am pretty happy with my draft  
Jay on the Island : 4/22/2017 7:56 pm : link
1st LB Takkarist McKinley
2nd TE Evan Engram
3rd OT Antonio Garcia
4th OT Conor McDermott
5th WR Isaiah Ford
6th LB Samson Ekubam
^^ I guess..  
SirYesSir : 4/22/2017 8:56 pm : link
looks like Sy slipped you a couple of notes right before your picks.







let's go rangers
RE: Washington pick is in  
Optimus-NY : 4/23/2017 12:44 am : link
In comment 13438105 SirYesSir said:
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we go with K Zane Gonzalez - worth a late round pick to get a talented special teamer for several years at a low price

Pete from Woodcock on the clock


I strongly considered him with my 3rd and final 5th round pick for the Fish.
Cowboys select Xavier Woods  
Rick in Dallas : 4/23/2017 7:18 am : link
If I had a pick in the 5th round I would have seriously considered Woods. He has great ball skills and is a very good tackler. Very good combine results topped by a 6.72 three cone.

I think I really helped the Cowboys restock their depleted secondary in this mock draft plus add a pass rusher that was missing from their defense. DC Mariinelli will coach these guys up.

Tacatta Charlton
Marcus Williams
Damontae Kazee
Jalen Myrick
Xavier Woods

Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/23/2017 7:54 am : link
Lorenzo Jerome is a small school prospect, but he proved in the Senior Bowl he belonged with the kids from the more prominent programs. He is a natural ball hawk, and will add quality depth to the Pack's secondary. Good value this late in the draft.

I am pleased with my results from this mock draft. I sought to bring in good players that will help fill in serious weaknesses of the Green Bay roster. I feel I did that. I took some risks on some players who I think in the right environment can really excel. Also, looked for players capable of playing multiple positions which helps with the teams overall flexibility.

1. Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado
2. Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston
3. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah
4. Joe Williams, RB, Utah
5.1. Mack Hollins, WR, North Carolina
5.2. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
6. Lorenzo Jerome, FS, Saint Francis (PA)
RE: Pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/23/2017 7:57 am : link
In comment 13438947 MadPlaid said:
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Lorenzo Jerome is a small school prospect, but he proved in the Senior Bowl he belonged with the kids from the more prominent programs. He is a natural ball hawk, and will add quality depth to the Pack's secondary. Good value this late in the draft.

I am pleased with my results from this mock draft. I sought to bring in good players that will help fill in serious weaknesses of the Green Bay roster. I feel I did that. I took some risks on some players who I think in the right environment can really excel. Also, looked for players capable of playing multiple positions which helps with the teams overall flexibility.

1. Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado
2. Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston
3. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah
4. Joe Williams, RB, Utah
5.1. Mack Hollins, WR, North Carolina
5.2. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
6. Lorenzo Jerome, FS, Saint Francis (PA)


Awful draft because you didn't let Hollins fall to me :)
In all seriousness, based on what Dave Te and others have said, I think the Packers would absolutely sign up for those first three picks
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/23/2017 8:04 am : link
I truly regret having stolen your favorite player in this draft. I hope you can find it in yourself to forgive me. Can we please remain friends?


Thank you for the feedback. What's crazy is I have found a few other on-line mock drafts where they picked the same guys as me. Even Hollins with my first pick of the 5th round. Freaky. I hope I did the Packers justice.
I was hoping  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/23/2017 9:54 am : link
Switzer would still be there at my pick and I would have an option between Amba and Switzer, so this made my pick a little easier.

Really pleased with my draft all around.
YAJ  
MadPlaid : 4/23/2017 12:13 pm : link
You skipped NYG27.
What happened to Tennessee pick????  
Rick in Dallas : 4/23/2017 12:16 pm : link
.....
Which thread do UDFAs go in?  
Lionhart28 : 4/23/2017 5:53 pm : link
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Selection thread  
Matt G : 4/23/2017 6:43 pm : link
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RE: Speaking of nice drafts...  
Boatie Warrant : 4/23/2017 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13437668 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...my "bang-for-the-buck" award (without ever having seen most of these kids play) goes to the Chargers and Texans, with honorable mention to the Bucs. The Browns and 49ers reeled in a lot of talent too - maybe even more than their favorable draft position would have predicted.

"Most Intriguing Draft Class" goes to the Saints. Who gets the first drug suspension, Foster or Tabor? Who gets the first jail sentence, Foster or Mixon? Will King draw the first flag for a flagrant foul? Will Kizer ever see the field?


Thanks B3. I think the Texans got great value in each round
Another perk of paternity leave?  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 7:32 am : link
being able to pull the trigger on UDFA signings for once!
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/24/2017 7:38 am : link
Guys, you need to wrap this up because we need to unpin the threads soon with the draft coming up. It's been three weeks.
Broncos are extremely happy with their haul  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 7:40 am : link
1) OT Ryan Ramczyk, WIS
2) RB Alvin Kamara, TENN
3) DT Dalvin Tomlinson, BAMA
3c) TE Jordan Leggett, CLEM
4) WR Carlos Henderson, LOUISTECH
5c) LB Dylan Cole, MIZZ STATE

UDFAs
QB Alek Torgersen, Penn
OL Collin Buchanan, Miami (OH)
RB Elijah Hood, UNC
LB Calvin Munson, SDSU
DE Noble Nwachukwu, WVU
RE: ...  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 7:43 am : link
In comment 13439729 Eric from BBI said:
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Guys, you need to wrap this up because we need to unpin the threads soon with the draft coming up. It's been three weeks.


Eric, the UDFA period is going on now. Give it today for those who want to post, or sooner if Matt indicates that is his preference.
Ravens Draft/UDFA is complete  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 7:50 am : link
1) Derek Barnett, DE/OLB, Tennessee
2) Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana
3) Ar'Darius Stewart, WR, Alabama
3) Josh Jones, SS, North Carolina State
4) Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia
5) Deatrich Wise Jr., 5T, Arkansas
6) Sam Tevi, OT, Utah

UDFA
Avery Moss, DE/OLB, Youngstown State (productive college player and I like his upside as a rush OLB in the 3-4)
Brady Gustafson, QB, Montana (who doesn't want a QB named Brady?!?)
De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina (bowling ball of a RB and last year's 4th Round pick K. Dixon suspended first four games of 2017)
Jadar Johnson, S, Clemson (underrated S. Not sure how he goes undrafted in this mock)
Krishawn Hogan, WR, Marian (tremendous size and production, albeit at a lower level. Performance at combine indicates that he does have the potential to compete at higher levels)

Thank you once again to Matt G for all of his hard work that he puts in yearly to this Mock Draft.
I'm pleased with the my UDFA haul  
MadPlaid : 4/24/2017 7:59 am : link
Only missed out on Deangelo Brown, NT, Louisville, who was scooped up by Andy and the Giants.
RE: Another perk of paternity leave?  
MadPlaid : 4/24/2017 8:00 am : link
In comment 13439726 jlukes said:
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being able to pull the trigger on UDFA signings for once!


Congratulations, jlukes. That's awesome. The baby, not the UDFA's.

Best
UDFA window will be 24 hrs...  
Matt G : 4/24/2017 8:09 am : link
I will post a FINAL RESULTS thread tomorrow morning...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/24/2017 8:26 am : link
Thanks everyone!

Good job again on this!
Lions haul is complete  
YAJ2112 : 4/24/2017 8:31 am : link
1) Dalvin Cook, RB, FSU
2) Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
3) Duke Reilly, LB, LSU
4) Montae Nicholson, S, Michigan State
5) Brendan Langley, CB, Lamar
6a) Cole Hikutini, TE, Louisville
6b) Artavis Scott, WR, Clemson

UDFA
Hardy Nickerson, LB, Illinois
Stacy Coley, WR, Da U
Jon Heck, OT, UNC
Riley Bullough, LB, Michigan St
JJ Dielman, C/OT, Utah

Missed out on Gedeon and Chesson in UDFA. Love my first 3 picks.
RE: RE: Another perk of paternity leave?  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 8:34 am : link
In comment 13439748 MadPlaid said:
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being able to pull the trigger on UDFA signings for once!



Congratulations, jlukes. That's awesome. The baby, not the UDFA's.

Best


Thanks man! JJLukes will be 4 months old on Saturday.
thanks Matt for doing a great job  
DCPollaro : 4/24/2017 9:25 am : link
like always. and nice drafting with all of you as well

Thank you again, Matt G  
MadPlaid : 4/24/2017 9:49 am : link
Another mock in the books. That was a lot of fun.
Austin Ekeler, RB from Western State UDFA  
Lionhart28 : 4/24/2017 9:55 am : link
Interesting kid... Worked out at Colorado's pro day:

5'8" and 5/8
Vertical: 40.5" (would have been #1 for RB at combine)
40: 4.43 (4th at combine)
Broad: 10'8" (3rd)
3-cone: 6.85 (3rd)

True Freshman: Started 9 games, ran for 1,049 yards was named conference Freshman of the year.
Sophomore: Set school records with 1.676 rush yards and 2,903 all-purpose yards. Second team all American.
Junior year:Led Division II with 203.9 all purpose yards/game. First team all American. Became school's all-time leading rusher.




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If I was allowed to pick up two more UDFA's  
MadPlaid : 4/24/2017 10:17 am : link
I would have picked:

Nick Callander, OT, Colorado St.
Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame

Either Dave Te or Sy had a nice write up on Callander, and what I read about Jones on-line sounded like a boom or bust kind of player. Apparently, he has a million dollar talent with a 5 cent head.
Have a soon to be four month old, so now I have time to comment  
Kevin in CT : 4/24/2017 10:17 am : link
1)Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
2)Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah
3)Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State
4)Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan
5)Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan
6)Ryan Switzer, WR, UNC

Very happy with the way this draft unfolded for the Jaguars. I feel my first three picks could all be drafted in the first round and wouldn't be surprised to hear Rivers be a guy someone feels the need to jump on towards the end of round 1.

Fournette and Bolles were huge for the Jags offense who have no running game so to speak and Bortles needs a lot of protection so Bolles will instantly help out there.

Lewis is a little undersized but could instantly start as a slot corner as he has all the tools to succeed in the NFL. If he was over 6'0" he'd be a first round pick.

Glasgow is a guy who will do all the dirty things to make a team better, blue collar guy who won't be a star in the league but will earn his paycheck and play 10 years in the league.

Switzer is a Wes Welker type who should start out early as the team's PR. He can eventually jump into the slot in a couple years and easily be a security blanket for whoever is throwing him the ball.

Really like my draft, as I'm sure everyone likes there's as well. Will be interesting to see where these guys stand in three years.
Kevin - when was yours born?  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 10:29 am : link
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RE: Kevin - when was yours born?  
Kevin in CT : 4/24/2017 10:51 am : link
In comment 13439934 jlukes said:
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January 3rd, so 16 weeks tomorrow. She's getting big man!
RE: If I was allowed to pick up two more UDFA's  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13439905 MadPlaid said:
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I would have picked:

Nick Callander, OT, Colorado St.
Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame

Either Dave Te or Sy had a nice write up on Callander, and what I read about Jones on-line sounded like a boom or bust kind of player. Apparently, he has a million dollar talent with a 5 cent head.


Jarron Jones was selected with final pick by Kansas City. If I had a couple of more spots I probably would have added Matt Milano (LB/Boston College), Robert Davis (WR/Georgia State), Cethan Carter (TE/Nebraska), and Rashaad Coward (DT/Old Dominion)
RE: RE: Kevin - when was yours born?  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13439973 Kevin in CT said:
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January 3rd, so 16 weeks tomorrow. She's getting big man!


My guy was born Dec 29th. It is crazy how fast they grow and start doing new things!
RE: RE: RE: Kevin - when was yours born?  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13440058 jlukes said:
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January 3rd, so 16 weeks tomorrow. She's getting big man!



My guy was born Dec 29th. It is crazy how fast they grow and start doing new things!


Are we going to have a BBI shidduch?
Pittsburgh draft in the books  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/24/2017 12:06 pm : link
1) Tim Williams OLB Alabama
2) Fabian Moreau CB UCLA
3a) Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova
3b) Wayne Gallman RB Clemson
4) Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
5) Jerod Evans QB Virginia Tech
6) Amba Etta-Tawo WR Syracuse

UDFAs
1) Corey Clement RB Wisconsin
2) Sam Rogers FB Virginia Tech
3) Jonathan Ford FS Auburn
4) Treyvon Hester DT
5) ToledoBen Gedeon ILB Michigan

Real excited to have picked Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova in the 3rd as there has been a ton of hype around him since I made that pick.

The peanut gallery's favorite pick as was Fabian Moreau CB UCLA.

I was able to fill in the Pitt holes without having to reach for barely anyone. I wish I could have picked a safety somewhere earlier, but I did not want to reach on a pick.
Oakland Draft  
Amtoft : 4/24/2017 12:33 pm : link
1. OT Cam Robinson from Alabama - I think the best OL in this draft. I think he can play LT as proof of how he handled the best DE to come out in a while in Garrett. They let him handle him one on one and while Garrett had some plays Cam was great against him all by himself. Would love the Giants to take him round 1. He will start at RT and make the Raiders OL top 3 in the NFL.

2. CB Cordrea Tankersley from Clemson - another player I am very high on and hope the Giants draft. Raiders needed better CB play and Tankersley has good length coverage.

3. LB Raekwon McMillan from Ohio State - Love the value here as I think he is a second rounder. It wasn't long ago that McMillan was on every mock drafts first round.

4. DE Hunter Dimick from Utah - I took him probably a round early, but I wanted Dimick. I love this kid. So talented and really dominated the Pac-12. All heart and hustle with tremendous power (38 reps in the bench).

5. DT Davon Godchaux from LSU - I almost went DT Vincent Taylor who I has rated only slight ahead of Davon in round 4 and was going to take Dimick in round 5. I thought for sure I was losing both Taylor and Godchaux by doing that so to get Godchaux who was one of the best at rushing the passer at DT last year is great. Team player also.

6. DT Grover Stewart from Albany State - He is going higher than this. He is a monster at 6'4 347 lbs who ran a 5.1 40 and put up 30 on the bench press. Rumor has it he normally puts up 38-40 and nerves may have zapped him. Small school who will need a lot of work, but luckily DT doesn't need as much work as say a WR who has to run routes. He could turn into a dominate NFL player this late in the draft is what I think will be great value come draft day.

UDFA
1. RB I'Tavuis Mathers from Middle Tenn - So under rated and missed in a deep RB draft. I had Elijah Hood a power back rated higher and a steal in UDFA, but I planned on taking both Hood and Mathers. Super talented transfer from Ole Miss and blew up at Middle Tenn. 1500+ rush yards, 500+ receiving yards, 60+ catches (first time ever in the NCAA to have all that). He was thought to be 190, but weighed in at 203 lbs and ran a 4.46 at his pro day.

2. SS Nate Gerry from Nebraska - He hits like a hammer. He was the 3rd best run stopping safety in the draft. Reads the QB very well allowing only a 51.5 percent completion with a 54.5 QB rating against. Better in coverage than he gets credit for with 13 INTs and a bunch more PBs the last 3 years. Allowed some of the fewest deep completions in this draft. Had to many missed tackles going for monster hits in 2014 and 2015, but really cleaned that up. Good size at 6'2 218 with 4.58 40 speed and may be able to bulk up to play LB. Should be a beast on STs right away.

3. TE Billy Brown from Shepard - small school prospect who is a project. Played WR last year for Shepard. At the combine came in at 6'4 255 lbs and ran a 4.7 with 23 reps on the bench. As a receiver he dominated like you need at the lower level with with good big hands he had 99 catches for 1580 yards with 22 TDs last year. The year before he caught 89 for 1492 yards and 10 TDs. Will need work on being a TE and blocking, but as a receiver really showed well at the Shrine game running good routes and great hands.

4. OL Aviante Collins from TCU - He needs more mass to his 6'4 frame with 33 3/8th arms and 296 lbs he ran 4.81 in the 40 and benched 34 times. He has played mainly at RT where he started every game last year, but does have games at LT. I like his potential where if you can put 10-15 lbs on him he could start in the NFL. great feet and power.

5. CB Jeremy Cutrer from Middle Tenn - in a panic pick before I took Keointa Davis I took Cutrer instead of Jack Tocho. Cutrer has good skills though. At over 6'1 with good length I really like his ability to cover, to close on the ball, good ball skills, anticipates very well. He is light in the pants at 167 lbs, but was a very willing tackler. He played very well against Alabama and Missouri. I thought he was better than Erza Robinson.
RE: Oakland Draft  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13440116 Amtoft said:
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1. OT Cam Robinson from Alabama - I think the best OL in this draft. I think he can play LT as proof of how he handled the best DE to come out in a while in Garrett. They let him handle him one on one and while Garrett had some plays Cam was great against him all by himself. Would love the Giants to take him round 1. He will start at RT and make the Raiders OL top 3 in the NFL.

2. CB Cordrea Tankersley from Clemson - another player I am very high on and hope the Giants draft. Raiders needed better CB play and Tankersley has good length coverage.

3. LB Raekwon McMillan from Ohio State - Love the value here as I think he is a second rounder. It wasn't long ago that McMillan was on every mock drafts first round.

4. DE Hunter Dimick from Utah - I took him probably a round early, but I wanted Dimick. I love this kid. So talented and really dominated the Pac-12. All heart and hustle with tremendous power (38 reps in the bench).

5. DT Davon Godchaux from LSU - I almost went DT Vincent Taylor who I has rated only slight ahead of Davon in round 4 and was going to take Dimick in round 5. I thought for sure I was losing both Taylor and Godchaux by doing that so to get Godchaux who was one of the best at rushing the passer at DT last year is great. Team player also.

6. DT Grover Stewart from Albany State - He is going higher than this. He is a monster at 6'4 347 lbs who ran a 5.1 40 and put up 30 on the bench press. Rumor has it he normally puts up 38-40 and nerves may have zapped him. Small school who will need a lot of work, but luckily DT doesn't need as much work as say a WR who has to run routes. He could turn into a dominate NFL player this late in the draft is what I think will be great value come draft day.

UDFA
1. RB I'Tavuis Mathers from Middle Tenn - So under rated and missed in a deep RB draft. I had Elijah Hood a power back rated higher and a steal in UDFA, but I planned on taking both Hood and Mathers. Super talented transfer from Ole Miss and blew up at Middle Tenn. 1500+ rush yards, 500+ receiving yards, 60+ catches (first time ever in the NCAA to have all that). He was thought to be 190, but weighed in at 203 lbs and ran a 4.46 at his pro day.

2. SS Nate Gerry from Nebraska - He hits like a hammer. He was the 3rd best run stopping safety in the draft. Reads the QB very well allowing only a 51.5 percent completion with a 54.5 QB rating against. Better in coverage than he gets credit for with 13 INTs and a bunch more PBs the last 3 years. Allowed some of the fewest deep completions in this draft. Had to many missed tackles going for monster hits in 2014 and 2015, but really cleaned that up. Good size at 6'2 218 with 4.58 40 speed and may be able to bulk up to play LB. Should be a beast on STs right away.

3. TE Billy Brown from Shepard - small school prospect who is a project. Played WR last year for Shepard. At the combine came in at 6'4 255 lbs and ran a 4.7 with 23 reps on the bench. As a receiver he dominated like you need at the lower level with with good big hands he had 99 catches for 1580 yards with 22 TDs last year. The year before he caught 89 for 1492 yards and 10 TDs. Will need work on being a TE and blocking, but as a receiver really showed well at the Shrine game running good routes and great hands.

4. OL Aviante Collins from TCU - He needs more mass to his 6'4 frame with 33 3/8th arms and 296 lbs he ran 4.81 in the 40 and benched 34 times. He has played mainly at RT where he started every game last year, but does have games at LT. I like his potential where if you can put 10-15 lbs on him he could start in the NFL. great feet and power.

5. CB Jeremy Cutrer from Middle Tenn - in a panic pick before I took Keointa Davis I took Cutrer instead of Jack Tocho. Cutrer has good skills though. At over 6'1 with good length I really like his ability to cover, to close on the ball, good ball skills, anticipates very well. He is light in the pants at 167 lbs, but was a very willing tackler. He played very well against Alabama and Missouri. I thought he was better than Erza Robinson.


Thought with your selection of Godchaux that you would not go for Stewart, who I was hoping to land as a UDFA. Also like your pick-up of Mathers. Had Henderson been selected by someone before I had a chance to post, Mathers would have been my back-up plan at RB. With Dixon's suspension, I wanted to land a RB.
RE: RE: RE: Kevin - when was yours born?  
Kevin in CT : 4/24/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13440058 jlukes said:
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January 3rd, so 16 weeks tomorrow. She's getting big man!



My guy was born Dec 29th. It is crazy how fast they grow and start doing new things!


Everyday! She has been sleeping through the night since she was 11 weeks old. Which is absolutely incredible.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Kevin - when was yours born?  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13440221 Kevin in CT said:
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Everyday! She has been sleeping through the night since she was 11 weeks old. Which is absolutely incredible.


That's awesome man! JJ started waking up once per night at 3 weeks and at 8 weeks he was making it through the night! So lucky!
We are very lucky man  
Kevin in CT : 4/24/2017 1:53 pm : link
You been able to get any golf in?
Would love to see what  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/24/2017 1:54 pm : link
draft grades Sy' would give each team.
RE: We are very lucky man  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13440226 Kevin in CT said:
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You been able to get any golf in?


Yup - about 5 rounds since he's been born. I get 8 weeks paid paternity leave with my company, and I added 2 weeks of vacation on top of that, so I have been off since the Masters started and am pulling daddy duty until June 20th. My mom will watch him once a week or so I can run errands and/or hit up the range/course. Also squeezed in a few rounds early weekend mornings. Handicap is down to a 3.5!
RE: RE: Oakland Draft  
Amtoft : 4/24/2017 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13440202 Mike in NY said:
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1. OT Cam Robinson from Alabama - I think the best OL in this draft. I think he can play LT as proof of how he handled the best DE to come out in a while in Garrett. They let him handle him one on one and while Garrett had some plays Cam was great against him all by himself. Would love the Giants to take him round 1. He will start at RT and make the Raiders OL top 3 in the NFL.

2. CB Cordrea Tankersley from Clemson - another player I am very high on and hope the Giants draft. Raiders needed better CB play and Tankersley has good length coverage.

3. LB Raekwon McMillan from Ohio State - Love the value here as I think he is a second rounder. It wasn't long ago that McMillan was on every mock drafts first round.

4. DE Hunter Dimick from Utah - I took him probably a round early, but I wanted Dimick. I love this kid. So talented and really dominated the Pac-12. All heart and hustle with tremendous power (38 reps in the bench).

5. DT Davon Godchaux from LSU - I almost went DT Vincent Taylor who I has rated only slight ahead of Davon in round 4 and was going to take Dimick in round 5. I thought for sure I was losing both Taylor and Godchaux by doing that so to get Godchaux who was one of the best at rushing the passer at DT last year is great. Team player also.

6. DT Grover Stewart from Albany State - He is going higher than this. He is a monster at 6'4 347 lbs who ran a 5.1 40 and put up 30 on the bench press. Rumor has it he normally puts up 38-40 and nerves may have zapped him. Small school who will need a lot of work, but luckily DT doesn't need as much work as say a WR who has to run routes. He could turn into a dominate NFL player this late in the draft is what I think will be great value come draft day.

UDFA
1. RB I'Tavuis Mathers from Middle Tenn - So under rated and missed in a deep RB draft. I had Elijah Hood a power back rated higher and a steal in UDFA, but I planned on taking both Hood and Mathers. Super talented transfer from Ole Miss and blew up at Middle Tenn. 1500+ rush yards, 500+ receiving yards, 60+ catches (first time ever in the NCAA to have all that). He was thought to be 190, but weighed in at 203 lbs and ran a 4.46 at his pro day.

2. SS Nate Gerry from Nebraska - He hits like a hammer. He was the 3rd best run stopping safety in the draft. Reads the QB very well allowing only a 51.5 percent completion with a 54.5 QB rating against. Better in coverage than he gets credit for with 13 INTs and a bunch more PBs the last 3 years. Allowed some of the fewest deep completions in this draft. Had to many missed tackles going for monster hits in 2014 and 2015, but really cleaned that up. Good size at 6'2 218 with 4.58 40 speed and may be able to bulk up to play LB. Should be a beast on STs right away.

3. TE Billy Brown from Shepard - small school prospect who is a project. Played WR last year for Shepard. At the combine came in at 6'4 255 lbs and ran a 4.7 with 23 reps on the bench. As a receiver he dominated like you need at the lower level with with good big hands he had 99 catches for 1580 yards with 22 TDs last year. The year before he caught 89 for 1492 yards and 10 TDs. Will need work on being a TE and blocking, but as a receiver really showed well at the Shrine game running good routes and great hands.

4. OL Aviante Collins from TCU - He needs more mass to his 6'4 frame with 33 3/8th arms and 296 lbs he ran 4.81 in the 40 and benched 34 times. He has played mainly at RT where he started every game last year, but does have games at LT. I like his potential where if you can put 10-15 lbs on him he could start in the NFL. great feet and power.

5. CB Jeremy Cutrer from Middle Tenn - in a panic pick before I took Keointa Davis I took Cutrer instead of Jack Tocho. Cutrer has good skills though. At over 6'1 with good length I really like his ability to cover, to close on the ball, good ball skills, anticipates very well. He is light in the pants at 167 lbs, but was a very willing tackler. He played very well against Alabama and Missouri. I thought he was better than Erza Robinson.



Thought with your selection of Godchaux that you would not go for Stewart, who I was hoping to land as a UDFA. Also like your pick-up of Mathers. Had Henderson been selected by someone before I had a chance to post, Mathers would have been my back-up plan at RB. With Dixon's suspension, I wanted to land a RB.


It is amazing that Henderson, Mathers, and Elijah Hood all made it to UDFA. Just shows how deep this RB class is. I felt good about RBs in every round after the 4th.
The 49ers are VERY happy with their haul!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/24/2017 2:43 pm : link
#1 - Jamal Adams S LSU (immediate impact)
#2 - Pat Mahomes QB Texas Tech(BIG arm can learn behind Hoyer)
#3 - Carl Lawson DE Auburn (will help with pass rush)
#4A - Jake Butt TE Michigan (once healed will be a star)
#4B - Dawuane Smoot DE Illinois (no brainer at this spot)
#5A - Corn Elder CB Miami (under rated because of his height)
#5B - Aaron Jones RB Texas El Paso(perfect compliment to Hyde)
#6A - KD Cannon WR Baylor (a flyer to stretch the D)
#6B - Jermaine Eluemunor OG Texas A & M
RE: The 49ers are VERY happy with their haul!  
Amtoft : 4/24/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13440291 Pete from Woodstock said:
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#1 - Jamal Adams S LSU (immediate impact)
#2 - Pat Mahomes QB Texas Tech(BIG arm can learn behind Hoyer)
#3 - Carl Lawson DE Auburn (will help with pass rush)
#4A - Jake Butt TE Michigan (once healed will be a star)
#4B - Dawuane Smoot DE Illinois (no brainer at this spot)
#5A - Corn Elder CB Miami (under rated because of his height)
#5B - Aaron Jones RB Texas El Paso(perfect compliment to Hyde)
#6A - KD Cannon WR Baylor (a flyer to stretch the D)
#6B - Jermaine Eluemunor OG Texas A & M


I thought Adams was not worth the #2 pick, but I think he is a stud and what are you going to do without trades. After that great value on Lawson, Butt, and KD Cannon. I am a big fan of Aaron Jones also. I am not a fan of Dawuane Smoot at all, but the rest of your draft is solid to great. Nice job here.
RE: Broncos are extremely happy with their haul  
Amtoft : 4/24/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13439733 jlukes said:
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1) OT Ryan Ramczyk, WIS
2) RB Alvin Kamara, TENN
3) DT Dalvin Tomlinson, BAMA
3c) TE Jordan Leggett, CLEM
4) WR Carlos Henderson, LOUISTECH
5c) LB Dylan Cole, MIZZ STATE

UDFAs
QB Alek Torgersen, Penn
OL Collin Buchanan, Miami (OH)
RB Elijah Hood, UNC
LB Calvin Munson, SDSU
DE Noble Nwachukwu, WVU


This is a good draft here. Really like the Carlos Henderson pick and getting Hood in UDFA. Hood is a guy I would love the Giants to draft. He is just so talented. For my 6th round pick my 9 player board had it #1 Grover Stewart, #2 Xavier Woods (love this guy!), and #3 Elijah Hood. Hood is a perfect power back for what we run. Maybe it is the light blue uniforms and #34, but man he look Earl Campbell!! Just running over and through people at an alarming clip. Probably the one player I wish I would have drafted. His running power is amazing while also being good at pass protection and even catching. He is a player I really want on the Giants.
here is a gif of Elijah Hood  
Amtoft : 4/24/2017 3:35 pm : link
against #18 Georgia... You can just see his power and the way he keeps his legs churning.

I would have took hood in the 6th round had I not already drafted a RB  
jlukes : 4/24/2017 4:05 pm : link
in the 2nd. Glad to nab him in UDFA
RE: YAJ  
YAJ2112 : 4/24/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13439103 MadPlaid said:
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You skipped NYG27.


Ha, just saw that. According to Matt's list posted earlier on the thread I had pick 214. The 2 picks posted before I went said they were 212/213 so I just assumed I was up.
Suggested additional NYG camp invitees...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/24/2017 5:13 pm : link
...on the Andrew Adams/Mark Herzlich "feeder territory" plan:
Matt Milano OLB Boston College
Patrick Towles QB Boston College
Noel Thomas WR Connecticut
Tashawn Bower OLB LSU
Jerry Ugokwe OT William & Mary
Ezra Robinson CB Tennessee State
Lewis Neal DE LSU
Justin Vogel P Miami (Fla.)
Travin Dural WR LSU
*Al-Quadin Muhammad DE Miami (Fla.)
I'Tavius Mathers RB Middle Tennessee
Marquez Williams FB Miami (Fla.)
*Joseph Yearby RB Miami (Fla.)

In a similar vein, surprised that Jerry/Andy didn't jump on Keionta Davis, Jeremy Cutrer and Stacy Coley. (Farther afield, Elijah Hood, Corey Clement or Sam Rogers would have been nice too.)
I missed Hood  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/24/2017 5:24 pm : link
I would much rather have him then Clemens. Picked up Rogers because he can help with special teams and can play multiple positions.
RE: I missed Hood  
Mike in NY : 4/24/2017 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13440529 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I would much rather have him then Clemens. Picked up Rogers because he can help with special teams and can play multiple positions.


You did not miss him. Denver was second team to get UDFA in took him
Well, how did we do last night folks?  
Lionhart28 : 4/28/2017 4:42 pm : link
RD.My pick | Player Name | RD.Actual pick | Difference

Browns
1.1 Miles Garrett (1.1) +0
1.12 Malik Hooker (1.15) -3
2.33 Deshaun Watson (1.12) +21
2.52 Adoree' Jackson (1.18) +34

- denotes my selection was earlier, + later.
RE: Well, how did we do last night folks?  
Amtoft : 4/28/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13449322 Lionhart28 said:
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RD.My pick | Player Name | RD.Actual pick | Difference

Browns
1.1 Miles Garrett (1.1) +0
1.12 Malik Hooker (1.15) -3
2.33 Deshaun Watson (1.12) +21
2.52 Adoree' Jackson (1.18) +34

- denotes my selection was earlier, + later.


Stupid BBI mock drafts that are scared to taking QBs! I almost took Trubisky for the Raiders at 24 meaning I would be +22 right now because I knew he would never get that far. Nice drafting there and Adoree Jackson going that high was a shock to me. After you took him and I thought he said his only issue is he is a slot CB and you were like yeah and they play slot CBs on the field most of the game and I was that is a good point and he is going to be a great one there so it makes a lot of sense. Clearly they read out conversation!

Oh the Raiders... -X right now until Cam Robinson gets drafted
Think I did ok.  
Boatie Warrant : 4/29/2017 11:29 am : link
Four of the 5 guys where draft 20+ picks before I got them.


*Mitch Trubisky QB North Carolina #2 (+23)
Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan #64 (-7)
Ahkello Witherspoon CB Colorado #66 (+23)
Kendell Beckwith ILB LSU #107 (+23)
Taywan Taylor WR Western Kentucky #72 (+70)
Rayshawn Jenkins FS Miami (Fla.) not drafted yet
So far for the Broncos  
jlukes : 4/29/2017 11:41 am : link
1) OT Ryan Ramczyk, WIS (Mock 20, Actual 32) -12
2) RB Alvin Kamara, TENN (Mock 52, Actual 67) -15
3) DT Dalvin Tomlinson, BAMA (Mock 82, Actual 55) +27
3c) TE Jordan Leggett, CLEM ( Mock 101, Actual XXX)
4) WR Carlos Henderson, LOUISTECH (Mock 126, Actual 82) +44
5c) LB Dylan Cole, MIZZ STATE (Mock 176, Actual XXX)
6) LB Jordan Evans, Oklahoma (Mock 202, Actual XXX)

UDFAs
QB Alek Torgersen, Penn
OL Collin Buchanan, Miami (OH)
RB Elijah Hood, UNC
LB Calvin Munson, SDSU
DE Noble Nwachukwu, WVU

I guessed on the wrong tackle for them.
Tomlinson & Henderson went 1+ rounds earlier than I took them, so that helped me make up some ground on my first two picks.

Currently sitting at +44, with a minus coming from Leggett once he gets picked
Final grade for my Denver draft:  
jlukes : 4/30/2017 4:21 pm : link
1) OT Ryan Ramczyk, WIS (Mock 20, Actual 32) -12
2) RB Alvin Kamara, TENN (Mock 52, Actual 67) -15
3) DT Dalvin Tomlinson, BAMA (Mock 82, Actual 55) +27
3c) TE Jordan Leggett, CLEM ( Mock 101, Actual 150) -49
4) WR Carlos Henderson, LOUISTECH (Mock 126, Actual 82) +44
5c) LB Dylan Cole, MIZZ STATE (Mock 176, Actual 254 UDFA) -78
6) LB Jordan Evans, Oklahoma (Mock 202, Actual 193) +9

UDFAs (254)
QB Alek Torgersen, Penn
OL Collin Buchanan, Miami (OH)
RB Elijah Hood, UNC (Actual 242) +12
LB Calvin Munson, SDSU
DE Noble Nwachukwu, WVU
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