We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft and will need to be bumped occasionally to push them back to page 1 of the forum.
Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the
GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (ie: Indianapolis Colts won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.
Once again, I strongly encourage ALL GMs to utilize the
BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
Luck needs a checkdown option on 3rd down that can make someone miss. If Cohen can provide that alone I think he's worth the pick.
I love Jalen Myrick. I was shocked he made it to my 4th round pick. I was debating on taking Jalen and then hoping Hunter made it to my next pick. I am pretty sure he would have, but 40+ picks was to risky and I didn't want to lose Hunter who I have rated slightly higher. If I didn't take Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd I would have probably taken the risk. I will say though I think Jalen would be an amazing slot CB so would have been a perfect fit with Tankersley, but still... Great pick and a steal this late!
A guy who stood out at the senior bowl with his play. Really athletic free safety who can also play the nickel. Good ball skills. 6 foot 2 with a 37 vertical. Quality special teamer.
I like John Johnson as a true FS which this draft doesn't have a lot of. I think he is more quick and athletic than fast, but he has good coverage skills and I think he will play. Nice pick
By the way, I did notice that my last two selections both came from Utah. I guess I have a thing for Mormons. Go figure.
God damnit, before I read those reports I thought I was for sure going to get Williams in Round 5. Especially after SY's not so glowing review. However, having watched this kid play. He's fast and runs so hard, I love him. Not much wiggle, but that's fine. We already have that in Duke.
I went for a high reward pick, figured this was a good time to go for it.
Link to Waldwin's glowing flimroom on Mathis is below.
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By the way, I did notice that my last two selections both came from Utah. I guess I have a thing for Mormons. Go figure.
If you look at just talent... Joe Williams is amazing! Very good size, speed, etc. While he did have some amazing OL blocking for him he also made them look much better. He is probably a 2nd rounder easy on talent, but this guy has so many red flags in his back he will drop. The quitting and then coming back doesn't bother me as much as it will bother the NFL people. He was having a tough time and really a rough life. However when his team needed him, it was loyalty that brought him back. That is the kind of teammates I want. Ones when you need them they show up. When he wasn't needed if he felt the injuries, the work, the pressure, the school work with athletics, etc were to much and he needed to step away. However he stepped up. My biggest red flag though with Williams is his fumbles. He had 7 fumbles in 334 touches. That is a problem with him and my biggest concern.
Dave's write ups helped me choose Joe who wasn't my initial target. I looked hard at Kareem Hunt, so when I missed him, I had to find a good alternative. Dave found him for me. Thank you.
I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!
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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.
I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!
That and a PR is enough for a roster spot for now!
I went for a high reward pick, figured this was a good time to go for it.
Link to Waldwin's glowing flimroom on Mathis is below. Link - ( New Window )
Joe Mathis is horrible. He is not a play maker at all. Go watch his sacks this year or better yet all his sacks... It won't take long.
2013 - no sacks
2014 - Oregon State... a legit sack. Bull rushed him man and then stepped inside
2014 - Washington State... no pocket to step up into and in fact had to back out right into Joe Mathis.
2015 - Boise State... again went around the outside and the middle was blocked so he couldn't go anywhere
2015 - Washington State... again goes the long way around and he can't get a pass off with the pocket pushing up the middle so he gets him with no where to go
2016 - Portland State... Rolls away coverage to good, Qualls forces him to run right into him.
2016 - AZ... He barely touches his foot which causes him to trip as he ran forward falling down when his feet tangled.
2016 - Stanford... snap was to early and the LT seriously did not move at all. As a matter of fact with his jukes he almost blocked himself all the time while the LT was a statue.
2016 - Stanford... He gets a legit sack around the edge the long way
2016 - AZ state... He gets a legit sack when the LT runs himself way deep to stop the outside rush and he simple cuts inside for an easy sack.
He is not impressive at all if you ask me. With the amazing CBs, amazing DL, amazing Safeties, etc he should have been able to put up way more sacks just from coverage sacks. Then take into count his injuries to both legs. I wouldn't even draft him.
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In comment 13432497 Chris in Philly said:
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We continue to try to rebuild our secondary. Some people dismiss Jackson because of his surrounding cast. That is dumb. After he rehabs the broken leg, he will contribute immediately on special teams as a dynamic returner and can fill in as FS or CB as needed.
I dismiss him for now because he didn't run a 40. Can he play CB? I doubt he has the speed for that. Is he a good enough tackler for FS? Not sure there either, but as a nickel back I like him a lot. Come in on passing downs and cherry pick balls like he did at Alabama!
That and a PR is enough for a roster spot for now!
I agree... This late to get a guy that can play a in nickel with good ball skills and also PR is great. I bet if he ran a 40 in anything under a 4.6 he gets drafted sooner than this. Not sure where he will go if he doesn't run though. To me he isn't running because he knows he will post a slow time. That makes me go... hmmm maybe I should pass. I really liked him though prior to the injury.
142. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (com) (from Cle)
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
144. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (comp)
I was between Jackson and Nicholson for my last pick.
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Even though they took an OT already, they definitely need more than one OL. Banner is top on the autopick list. My only concern is does he fit Sean McVay's scheme? Holden is next and may fit better. It is doubling up on OT, but Holden can play RT or kick inside while the other pick is more of a pure LT
If it comes down to an auto-pick for the Rams, Orlosky probably makes more sense than another OT. Aside from the earlier selection of Bisnowaty, keep in mind that they signed Whitworth. He's their LT this year, and probably in 2018 unless he hits the age wall. At center, the Rams have an immediate need.
We are late in the fourth and really positions shouldn't matter. At this point you are not looking for starters and a developmental OT to replace 35 year old Whitworth isn't a reason to bypass IMO. I agree with your point though and Tyler Orlosky would be a better fit from a chance to start perspective, but this late a backup LT is not out of the question.
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Hahaha... Can't mess with Matt... To nice a guy and is doing all the work! allstarwhineypineyjim tho... that is fair game!
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Hahaha... Can't mess with Matt... To nice a guy and is doing all the work! allstarwhineypineyjim tho... that is fair game!
Can't let it go, can you. Still refreshing the page, little bitch?
I like his teammate more, but Smoot is a good pick at this point. The scheme Illinois ran this year did not play to Smoot's strengths, but there is potential with that pick. If you are going to be out for awhile (I think you said you were leaving at 4) you may want to send a board to Matt as there are 2 picks before you pick again
Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.
Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.
You could just look at the draft sheet that has them listed as well, they get wiped out there when they are gone.
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would cross out the players on the big board draft sheet after they are taken.
Would make looking at the list a little easier for people to pick.
You could just look at the draft sheet that has them listed as well, they get wiped out there when they are gone.
Damn I wish I had seen that a hell of a lot earlier. I have been looking at this on my phone and sometimes on my work comp and it cuts it off.
OFFENSE
95/98 Tyler Orlosky C
108/125 David Sharpe OT
131/129 Kyle Fuller C
132/137 Jessamen Dunker OG
160/117 Brian Hill RB
126/152 Isaiah Ford WR
137/145 Erik Magnuson OT
156/131 Jamaal Williams RB
106/197 Chad Wheeler OT
148/182 Corey Clement RB
DEFENSE
120/111 Carroll Phillips OLB
89/162 Vincent Taylor DT
122/150 Ryan Glasgow DT
100/176 Davon Godchaux DT
146/130 Vince Biegel OLB
149/142 Devonte Fields OLB
136/160 Connor Harris ILB
128/172 Rayshawn Jenkins FS
lots of ability as an edge rusher, has had problems in the past getting kicked off of TCU after freshman year following a domestic violence incident
Might be worth the chance this late in the draft
Washington Draft so far
Rd 1 (17) RB Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
Rd 2 (49) DE/OLB Tarell Basham, Ohio U
Rd 3 (81) DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson
Rd 4 (114)WR Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma
Rd 4 (123)DE Nazir Jones, UNC
Rd 5 (154)OLB Devonte' Fields, Louisville