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Matt G : 4/2/2017 10:32 pm
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the picks thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft and will need to be bumped occasionally to push them back to page 1 of the forum.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (ie: Indianapolis Colts wont be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.

Once again, I strongly encourage ALL GMs to utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
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At the time the round starts  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 1:21 am : link
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I think Fournette is the right pick  
English Alaister : 4/5/2017 6:37 am : link
Give Bortles a shot and inject that ground game with some serious talent. Yeldon is a JAG.
RE: At the time the round starts  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 6:51 am : link
In comment 13417697 Matt G said:
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So the 3rd Round order will reflect any trades involving 3rd round or later picks at the time 3rd Round starts? Just wanted to confirm, because if I have pick 99 rather than pick 74 that does alter my calculations about certain positions being available at certain points
RE: I think Fournette is the right pick  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 7:06 am : link
English Alaister said:
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Give Bortles a shot and inject that ground game with some serious talent. Yeldon is a JAG.
Makes sense. And with Allen off the board, there isn't an obvious need-meets-value pick for Jacksonville. I see the objection about the pick being out of character for Coughlin, but I don't recall realism being a constraint in the BBI mock.
Who is the Jags Defensive Coordinator & Offensive Coordinator  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 9:08 am : link
?
Mike in NY  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 9:13 am : link
Yes... The round will lock when we get to it... Assuming no additional trades are made between now and then, you will have pick #74...
I don't love the pick  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/5/2017 9:15 am : link
Think Tc would consider Solomon Thomas here? Know he loves depth at DL. I think Fournette will be great just think 4 is high for RB
Do we really need someone to say...  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 10:37 am : link
"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?
RE: Do we really need someone to say...  
mrvax : 4/5/2017 10:39 am : link
In comment 13417988 est1986 said:
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"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?


Why, yes. Yes they do.
I think the pick if the value was there  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/5/2017 10:43 am : link
would be an OL, but sadly the crop is shit and that would be a reach

Now maybe he would go OJ Howard, to address some of the blocking and give Bortles another receiving option. Kills 2 birds with one stone.

I could see them taking OL in the second because that's where the value is.
Ned: The issue there would be resource allocation.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 10:43 am : link
Ned In Atlanta said:
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Think Tc would consider Solomon Thomas here? Know he loves depth at DL.
Depth is one thing. Adding the #4 pick to Fowler and Jack on the edge - not to mention the big contract they gave Campbell to anchor the line, and the remaining commitment to Jackson - might be overkill.
RE: Do we really need someone to say...  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2017 11:17 am : link
In comment 13417988 est1986 said:
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"..and 'so-and-so' is on the clock.." everytime like they are Roger fucking Goodell?
Yes, we do. It is part of the charm of the BBI Mock Draft. We are playing pretend here when you get down to it. Why not play up all things related to the real NFL Draft? Its fun.
Lol.  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 11:29 am : link
Ok.
Just FYI  
Matt G : 4/5/2017 12:34 pm : link
two reminder emails have been sent to NYG27
TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
yatqb : 4/5/2017 12:49 pm : link
initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.
RE: TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/5/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13418230 yatqb said:
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initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.


Kevin's pick makes more sense in that context.
I know we didn't officially start yet  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2017 2:43 pm : link
but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...
RE: I know we didn't officially start yet  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13418456 SirYesSir said:
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but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...


Me either. It doesn't take that long to periodically check BBI on your phone to see what pick we are up to now that the thread is pinned at the top of the board.
RE: TC took Fred Tayler at #7 years ago, when mocks were  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/5/2017 2:52 pm : link
yatqb said:
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initially saying that he was a 2nd rounder at best. So I could see TC going for Fournette.
I think Taylor was the ninth pick in 1998, but that's still a good point. Also, Coughlin picked James Stewart at #19 three years earlier - the second draft choice he ever made, after Boselli.
Coughlin built some really good teams in Jacksonville  
Go Terps : 4/5/2017 4:28 pm : link
He had some physical monsters on those teams. The Henderson/Stroud combo in the middle of the defense was scary.
RE: Coughlin built some really good teams in Jacksonville  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13418666 Go Terps said:
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He had some physical monsters on those teams. The Henderson/Stroud combo in the middle of the defense was scary.


Henderson alone was scary
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RE: RE: I know we didn't officially start yet  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13418466 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13418456 SirYesSir said:


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but surprised we're only four picks in. Matt was kind enough to send us all emails...



Me either. It doesn't take that long to periodically check BBI on your phone to see what pick we are up to now that the thread is pinned at the top of the board.
Count me surprised and disappointed too. Some of the owners at the top of the list have been on BBI, they couldn't possibly have missed these threads.
BBB, thanks for the correction.  
yatqb : 4/5/2017 5:15 pm : link
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Been tied up at work  
NYG27 : 4/5/2017 5:17 pm : link
Will get in the Titans pick within the hour.
I wanted to draft OJ Howard with the Titans 18th overall pick  
NYG27 : 4/5/2017 5:33 pm : link
but honestly, I don't see Howard dropping that far.

With Delanie Walker turning 33 years old in August and only signed till next year, OJ Howard would be the perfect compliment. Both Walker and Howard would be killer for two TE formations and giving Marcus Mariota more weapons in the passing game.
Left the BPA  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 5:53 pm : link
on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.
RE: Left the BPA  
est1986 : 4/5/2017 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13418753 Jon in NYC said:
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on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.


Didn't consider QB at all?
RE: RE: Left the BPA  
Jon in NYC : 4/5/2017 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13418810 est1986 said:
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In comment 13418753 Jon in NYC said:


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on the board, but Lattimore is a no brainer here. With Revis gone and holes all over, the Jets get a young, lock down corner who can be a cornerstone of that D for 10 years.



Didn't consider QB at all?


Not even a little bit. Think I'll have a good chance of someone in the 2nd.
Chargers take Solomon Thomas  
armstead98 : 4/5/2017 10:34 pm : link
I was expecting to take Malik Hooker but Thomas was too good to pass up. Thomas and Bosa provide the best young DEs in the league.

Definitely value over need here.
RE: Chargers take Solomon Thomas  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13418995 armstead98 said:
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I was expecting to take Malik Hooker but Thomas was too good to pass up. Thomas and Bosa provide the best young DEs in the league.

Definitely value over need here.


Makes sense depending on how you had both of them ranked. I personally don't have Thomas on a higher tier than Hooker, but if you do I can see why you did what you did.

On a separate matter, hopefully we can pick up the pace a bit.
emails have been sent to  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 3:02 am : link
armstead98
sorry...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 3:48 am : link
I meant FatMan...
I have to head to the airport in about 2hrs...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 7:55 am : link
And will be out of pocket the rest of the day... But I will send reminder emails to the next 5 GMs or so to hopefully keep the ball rolling...

If there is someone I can send my picks to just in case FatMan doesnt make his in the next two hours, pleas let me know...

Thanks
Geez...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2017 8:07 am : link
the Panthers were thinking they could grab one of 4 guys and all were off the board at 8. John Ross provides speed, but that's a reach at #8.
MattG your on the clock  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:25 am : link
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10th pick is made  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:36 am : link
number 11 is on the clock!!!!
RE: 10th pick is made  
superspynyg : 4/6/2017 8:36 am : link
In comment 13419150 superspynyg said:
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number 11 is on the clock!!!!



I was afraid that Cincy would take Williams to pair with Green but in the end I get my man!!! Welcome to Buffalo Mike Williams!!!
Was really tempted to take Mitchell Trubisky to sit behind Drew Bree's  
Saos1n : 4/6/2017 9:02 am : link
For a few years or Malik Hooker, due to pure talent but I couldn't pass up on bringing the hammer to a defense that needs an identity...
On the field, I liked Foster more than any Alabama LB under Saban...  
Matt G : 4/6/2017 9:13 am : link
But he scares me a bit off the field... Not that I haven't rolled the dice before ;) But after I saw that he signed with Malki Kawa... He's bad news, IMO...
Now we are cooking with Crisco!  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 9:27 am : link
4 picks before mine with 4 players on my short list. It is going to be tight unless one of the upcoming teams helps me out. Should be around today so when I get on the clock I will try to make my pick promptly.
In real life..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/6/2017 9:34 am : link
if the Panthers are faced with this same draft board, I think they would go with Foster, especially with Thomas Davis getting older and Kuechley's concussion history, but if they had outside speed (like a consistent Ted Ginn), that's going to be valuable too.
I think it is a fair pick for Carolina  
English Alaister : 4/6/2017 9:50 am : link
Ross will definitely give Cam and the current receivers more space to operate
This feels like a deep draft at the top now that I'm  
NoGainDayne : 4/6/2017 10:51 am : link
Seeing it unfold especially. No QBs taken, Hooker still out there. Even Ross who you might see as a little high is a good fit for the panthers and a guy I definitely like more than darrius heyward bey who went at 7
Tough pick here for Cleveland  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 11:24 am : link
Not wild about these QBs and some top 10 talent still sitting here at other positions.
RE: Tough pick here for Cleveland  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13419343 Lionhart28 said:
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Not wild about these QBs and some top 10 talent still sitting here at other positions.


Do like Marc Ross and flip a coin. Or have Mara make a pick from the Kentucky Derby.
Couldnt pass on the best player available  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 11:56 am : link
(without character flags)

and that's Hooker. Kid has unbelievable, range, instincts and ball skills. I can't wait to see this kid as a pro. Didn't play a whole lot at OSU, but my goodness can he do it all. The first step in turning around Cleveland's abysmal pass defense.
Does Arizona get  
DCPollaro : 4/6/2017 12:25 pm : link
Palmer's replacement or Fitzgerald's?
The way this is playing out  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2017 1:02 pm : link
Cleveland could get a QB in round 2.
RE: Does Arizona get  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13419426 DCPollaro said:
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Palmer's replacement or Fitzgerald's?


I think what you need more is insurance if anything should happen to David Johnson. Or you can throw darts. :)

BBDTS  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2017 1:09 pm : link
Shhhh, don't jinx it.

Interesting thing about this draft is that there are some good teams who need a QB...

Arizona, Denver, Houston. Arguably NYG, Pittsburgh, KC, New Orleans
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