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Defenderdawg : 4/9/2017 12:34 pm
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Raanan ESPN NY: Mailbag: O.J. Howard, Christian McCaffrey likely atop of Giants' draft board

Q - How do these six players stand on Giants draft board

1. Christian McCaffrey

2. Zach Cunningham

3. Cam Robinson

4. O.J. Howard

5. Taco Charlton (seen him mocked top 10 recently)

6. Jarrad Davis

Raanan's opinion:

"1. O.J. Howard

2. Christian McCaffrey

3. Cam Robinson

4. Jarrad Davis (If he checks out medically)

5. Zach Cunningham

6. Taco Charlton"

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/51360/o-j-howard-christian-mccaffery-likely-near-top-of-giants-draft-board

Kratch NJ.com: Giants mailbag: NFL Draft QB chatter, Johnathan Hankins, more
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/04/giants_mailbag_nfl_draft_qb_chatter_johnathan_hank.html
Took down the earlier thread because the heading was misleading  
Defenderdawg : 4/9/2017 12:37 pm : link
It wasn't Raanan's top six, just a ranking of selected players...

Sorry if any comments went with it
Giants' #1 picks always low risk. Why would this change?  
Ivan15 : 4/9/2017 12:47 pm : link
Giants have shown inclination to downgrade players out of round 1 if they have recent medical issues or off field issues.

When they get ready to pick, look for the "cleanest" pick, regardless of whether they trade up or stay put. They might take a bigger risk on a trade down because they probably will have gotten an extra pick somewhere.
The issue with  
ryanmkeane : 4/9/2017 1:32 pm : link
Davis is that I imagine he will check out medically as of this moment because he's never had a major injury, it's his history of being dinged up constantly that is worrisome.
I believe I said...  
Giants_West : 4/9/2017 1:44 pm : link
something like "a lot of people are undervaluing the impact of an athletic pass catching tight end one the running game and wr-passing game just based on how that threat influences the linebackers and safeties."

So yeah
Zach Cunningham  
RAIN : 4/9/2017 4:41 pm : link
Talk.. has me perplexed. I really hope this is smoke. Don't see him as an impact player.
The list is shaping  
ryanmkeane : 4/9/2017 5:13 pm : link
up similar to Colin's chat and I think what Sy will say...Giants very high on Howard/McCaffrey/Davis/Cunningham
RE: Zach Cunningham  
mack809f : 4/9/2017 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13422001 RAIN said:
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Talk.. has me perplexed. I really hope this is smoke. Don't see him as an impact player.


Not disagreeing with you but
I don't understand the issues people have mentioned regarding his tackling. I haven't seen a lot of Vanderbuilt games, does he have a statisticly high numer of missed tacles? Or is there a technique issue identified by scouts? Wasn't he SEC DPOY? He must be tackling someone. From what I have read he seems to be in the mix for us at 23. If we add an impact LB and another edge rusher our D would be top notch.
RE: Zach Cunningham  
blueblood : 4/9/2017 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13422001 RAIN said:
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Talk.. has me perplexed. I really hope this is smoke. Don't see him as an impact player.


having a rangy linebacker who can play sideline to sideline and cover TE's is NOT a bad thing to have..
Blueblood  
ryanmkeane : 4/9/2017 11:02 pm : link
I'm with you. You can nitpick any player if you try hard enough. But tape and production can't be ignored. Cunningham is around the ball nearly every play.
I think the Giants have they're eyes on MaCaffrey  
NikkiMac : 4/10/2017 8:42 am : link
Which would be fantastic but I have a feeling Charlton is going to be real good for whoever gets him !
Maybe the Giants are going to use Hankins  
NikkiMac : 4/10/2017 8:47 am : link
In a trade to move up hence the delay ? Idk just throwing things out there.
RE: Maybe the Giants are going to use Hankins  
est1986 : 4/10/2017 9:03 am : link
In comment 13422351 NikkiMac said:
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In a trade to move up hence the delay ? Idk just throwing things out there.


Why would a team give up a damn pick for Hank? Wouldnt they just... Sign him?
RE: RE: Zach Cunningham  
est1986 : 4/10/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13422213 mack809f said:
Quote:
In comment 13422001 RAIN said:


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Talk.. has me perplexed. I really hope this is smoke. Don't see him as an impact player.



Not disagreeing with you but
I don't understand the issues people have mentioned regarding his tackling. I haven't seen a lot of Vanderbuilt games, does he have a statisticly high numer of missed tacles? Or is there a technique issue identified by scouts? Wasn't he SEC DPOY? He must be tackling someone. From what I have read he seems to be in the mix for us at 23. If we add an impact LB and another edge rusher our D would be top notch.


He is not getting to the ball carrier and lighting them up ala Foster but he is bringing them down holding him up and then taking him down. At least thats what i saw sometimes.
RE: RE: Maybe the Giants are going to use Hankins  
NikkiMac : 4/12/2017 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13422363 est1986 said:
Quote:
In comment 13422351 NikkiMac said:


Quote:


In a trade to move up hence the delay ? Idk just throwing things out there.



Why would a team give up a damn pick for Hank? Wouldnt they just... Sign him?




Who said anything about a team giving up a draft pick I'm talking about the GIANTS wanting to move up or trade spots so they use Hankins and a low draft pick depending on how many spots they're moving up
NikkiMac  
Klaatu : 4/12/2017 2:43 pm : link
Hankins is a free agent. The Giants couldn't use him in a trade unless they signed him first.
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