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Does anyone know what the Giants offered Hankins?

3r76jp : 4/11/2017 9:35 pm
I might have seen it before on this site it's just been awhile. Like most other fans and players I would like to see him back. Just can't see it really happening. Say the Giants offered him a 4yr/24m. contact. I could "kinda" see that as a fair market value for him, since he's really an avg. 0/1 DT and not really a 3 gap DT. It's just that he's adequate at both spots. With Snacks playing the 1 gap though and having a LB/DE pass rusher on passing downs. I can only see Hankins role as a 3tech defender on runs or a 1tech on passing plays, yet Snacks looks good at collapsing the pocket on passing downs.

I do remember Hankins 2nd yr. when he did get 5-7 sacks but I didn't bother to see in what alignment he was playing at. If only for his own benefit he would've been able to duplicate that season, then I could consider paying him 10 mil. a year.
I could tell you,  
Doomster : 4/11/2017 9:59 pm : link
but then I would have to kill you....mainly, for starting another Hankins thread......
I think Hitdog mentioned 1 yr / $7mm.  
Rjanyg : 4/11/2017 10:18 pm : link
Somebody else mentioned 4 years $24MM. Either way it's far off Hanks $10MM per year he wants.
No one knows  
djm : 4/11/2017 10:48 pm : link
It hasn't been released to the public. Asshats are making shit up.
Doomster look  
3r76jp : 4/11/2017 10:57 pm : link
behind the dumpster you live in and I'll call your bluff.
My source told me  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/12/2017 7:59 am : link
Originally there was a pretty nice offer on the table- about 7 mill per year for 4 years.

As the market cooled the Giants pulled the offer and slowly as it became apparent that the leverage was with the team they settled in at a standing 2 year 12 million dollar offer.

Where it is now and whether the Giants even still are entertaining the idea of bringing him back is anyone's guess.
RE: My source told me  
section125 : 4/12/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13424755 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Originally there was a pretty nice offer on the table- about 7 mill per year for 4 years.

As the market cooled the Giants pulled the offer and slowly as it became apparent that the leverage was with the team they settled in at a standing 2 year 12 million dollar offer.

Where it is now and whether the Giants even still are entertaining the idea of bringing him back is anyone's guess.


Seemed to me the story was the offer never changed; that the Giants never lowered the offer. I never saw anything to support your post here or in the papers.
Given his REPORTED demands  
Big Blue '56 : 4/12/2017 8:34 am : link
of 10 mil, my previous stance of being very upset with the Giants if they " let him walk," is now off the table. It's about the Postons right now(in my book) and if so, there is nothing more we can do..The Giants cannot and will not capitulate
RE: Given his REPORTED demands  
mrvax : 4/12/2017 8:47 am : link
In comment 13424772 Big Blue '56 said:
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of 10 mil, my previous stance of being very upset with the Giants if they " let him walk," is now off the table. It's about the Postons right now(in my book) and if so, there is nothing more we can do..The Giants cannot and will not capitulate


Right. Don't give in to terrorists or blackmailers.
RE: RE: My source told me  
UConn4523 : 4/12/2017 9:02 am : link
In comment 13424764 section125 said:
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In comment 13424755 ThatLimerickGuy said:


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Originally there was a pretty nice offer on the table- about 7 mill per year for 4 years.

As the market cooled the Giants pulled the offer and slowly as it became apparent that the leverage was with the team they settled in at a standing 2 year 12 million dollar offer.

Where it is now and whether the Giants even still are entertaining the idea of bringing him back is anyone's guess.



Seemed to me the story was the offer never changed; that the Giants never lowered the offer. I never saw anything to support your post here or in the papers.


I'd be more inclined to believe this than what the papers say. TLG is pretty credible and it also makes sense. They made a good offer, Hankins' camp didn't bite, they went shopping and when they came back, a different offer was on the table. That's pretty much negotiating 101.

That said 2 years $12 million sucks for Hankins (unless its 100% guaranteed), I wouldn't want that either. I'd be looking for a 1 year deal for $7-$8 million and try again next year with hopefully improved play.
RE: My source told me  
TMS : 4/12/2017 9:10 am : link
In comment 13424755 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Originally there was a pretty nice offer on the table- about 7 mill per year for 4 years.

As the market cooled the Giants pulled the offer and slowly as it became apparent that the leverage was with the team they settled in at a standing 2 year 12 million dollar offer.

Where it is now and whether the Giants even still are entertaining the idea of bringing him back is anyone's guess.
Thanks for the info. Hope it works out. Our interior line defense was very good last year and I do not think Bromley or anyone else we have now will be able to replace Hank.
RE: RE: RE: My source told me  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/12/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13424795 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13424764 section125 said:


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In comment 13424755 ThatLimerickGuy said:


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Originally there was a pretty nice offer on the table- about 7 mill per year for 4 years.

As the market cooled the Giants pulled the offer and slowly as it became apparent that the leverage was with the team they settled in at a standing 2 year 12 million dollar offer.

Where it is now and whether the Giants even still are entertaining the idea of bringing him back is anyone's guess.



Seemed to me the story was the offer never changed; that the Giants never lowered the offer. I never saw anything to support your post here or in the papers.



I'd be more inclined to believe this than what the papers say. TLG is pretty credible and it also makes sense. They made a good offer, Hankins' camp didn't bite, they went shopping and when they came back, a different offer was on the table. That's pretty much negotiating 101.

That said 2 years $12 million sucks for Hankins (unless its 100% guaranteed), I wouldn't want that either. I'd be looking for a 1 year deal for $7-$8 million and try again next year with hopefully improved play.


I believe that is what is going on.

Usually in these type of situations one of 2 things happens. The player fires his agent, comes back to his original team, all is forgiven and the player saves face

OR

The player digs in, and winds up as a May signing on a 1 year prove it deal.

The richest one-year deals were given to Dontari Poe and Bennie Logan.  
Klaatu : 4/12/2017 10:24 am : link
Each got $8 million, with $7,500,00 and $7,680,00 guaranteed, respectively. If Hankins is looking for something similar from the Giants, I expect he's going to be disappointed.

I can't imagine the Giants offered Hank anything close to the 5-year, $52 million dollar deal ($33,750,000 guaranteed) that Brandon Williams signed, and obviously no other team offered anything close to that, either. If Hankins and his agents thought they'd get a similar deal, they should have known very quickly that it wasn't happening.

Four years, at $7 million per year is exactly what Nick Fairley got from the Saints ($14 million guaranteed). Now, Hankins is four years younger than Fairley, and you could argue that he's been the more productive player and should be worth a richer contract, but, again, it doesn't seem like the Giants or anyone else thought so.

As Eric said in another thread, it's just weird.
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