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UConn4523 : 4/12/2017 1:59 pm
anyone down in DC know the status of this thing? It says its opening in November 2017, curious if its still on track for that. I'm putting together a media plan as part of their advertising campaign which brought me to their site and the thing looks immensely impressive. I never heard of it until now and while I'm not religious, I find myself pretty fascinated with what the facility looks like and what its going to include. Its being marketed as the most technologically advanced museum in the world.
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I hadn't heard about this.  
Section331 : 4/12/2017 3:10 pm : link
I'm not at all religious either, but I am fascinated with the history of the bible. I'll have to check this out my next trip down to DC.
Wouldn't go near it  
WideRight : 4/12/2017 3:14 pm : link
until I know who financed it. There could be lots of interesting science to it, but most proponents would never condone that. I would need to know what sponsor's bias is before I went.
RE: I hadn't heard about this.  
UConn4523 : 4/12/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13425412 Section331 said:
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I'm not at all religious either, but I am fascinated with the history of the bible. I'll have to check this out my next trip down to DC.


Same here, didn't know about it until yesterday and started doing a bunch of research on it today. My sister is in DC so I try and get down there every year and would definitely consider checking this out on my next visit.

No idea who financed it. I know the main media agency they are working with, but not sure who's paying for the actual project.
That's frustrating  
WideRight : 4/12/2017 3:33 pm : link
A scientific study could fantastic (if its not scientific, why wouldn't it just be called a church?). But without knowing the vetting process for the science on display, I can't recommend it. So many people want to co-opt the Bible for their own ends, can't trust them unless they are transparent.
that's a little too cynical for me  
UConn4523 : 4/12/2017 3:46 pm : link
the site shows the exhibits, if you are fascinated or interested in the bible and its impact historically, it sounds interesting. For me, the science is irrelevant, I'd go purely from an entertainment standpoint.
I don't think that there are very many museums  
Bill L : 4/12/2017 4:01 pm : link
that can't be co-opted by the sponsors or management. If you take that into account, then any museum can be enjoyable.
RE: Wouldn't go near it  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/12/2017 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13425416 WideRight said:
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until I know who financed it. There could be lots of interesting science to it, but most proponents would never condone that. I would need to know what sponsor's bias is before I went.


The founder of it is Steve Green, the President of Hobby Lobby
I always value religion by the following order  
Pete in 'Vliet : 4/12/2017 4:04 pm : link
1. Morals and values
2. Historical Significance
3. Cultural Inspiration
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4. Theology

A "Christianity" museum can be great, if they stick to the top 3 on the list above. Nothing has inspired more art and culture in Europe than the Bible, and the history of the Catholic Church "bridging the gap" between Rome and European Kingdoms is fascinating.

But, if the point of this museum is to try and prove the Theology of the Bible, then I think it could do more damage than good to Christianity.

i believe that's all its trying to do  
UConn4523 : 4/12/2017 4:18 pm : link
this is a snippet of what they are trying to convey in their advertising; "The ultimate goal of the attraction is not to be evangelical, but to truly explore the Bible through its historical impact."
Can't wait!  
trueblueinpw : 4/12/2017 4:22 pm : link
Already taking the family to the Creation Museum this summer so hopefully we can swing by the Bible Museum on the way back to NY. That is, unless of course, the rapture brings us all home before summer vacation.
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WideRight : 4/12/2017 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13425495 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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until I know who financed it. There could be lots of interesting science to it, but most proponents would never condone that. I would need to know what sponsor's bias is before I went.



The founder of it is Steve Green, the President of Hobby Lobby


Thanks

Now I know not to go
Are married gays welcome?  
Ron Johnson 30 : 4/12/2017 5:07 pm : link
Are they open on Sunday? Or isnt the Sabbath really on Saturday? Will there be an exhibit on stoning hot chicks?
Love the Bible  
LCtheINTMachine : 4/12/2017 5:07 pm : link
Can't wait for this museum and an easy trip to DC to see it. Great idea to highlight the great religion.
Its a shame  
WideRight : 4/12/2017 5:33 pm : link
A great bible museum would not focus on one version of theology, because there are many. But it could compare and contrast the versions with scientific examination to show what may or may not have changed in response to intercurrent historical events. Take away the sacred veneer and study it for what it really is.

The founder of the Hobby Lobby is not going to do that.
This would be a great time to track down  
AnyoneButPhilly : 4/13/2017 6:29 am : link
the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant
RE: Wouldn't go near it  
Moondawg : 4/13/2017 7:58 am : link
In comment 13425416 WideRight said:
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until I know who financed it. There could be lots of interesting science to it, but most proponents would never condone that. I would need to know what sponsor's bias is before I went.


This is a tough standard to apply across the board.
A lot has changed  
mrvax : 4/13/2017 8:46 am : link
in the last 20 years with biblical archeology. The impact of the Dead Sea Scrolls and discoveries in Egypt make for some very interesting discussion.

Interested in biblical archeology? Check the Netflix documentary out called "Patterns of Evidence: Exodus".
I found it quite fascinating for both Jews and Christians alike.

I hope this museum covers a lot of newer finds.
RE: RE: Wouldn't go near it  
Bill L : 4/13/2017 9:17 am : link
In comment 13426348 Moondawg said:
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until I know who financed it. There could be lots of interesting science to it, but most proponents would never condone that. I would need to know what sponsor's bias is before I went.



This is a tough standard to apply across the board.
It is pretty close-minded.

The museum itself does not appear to be a government-sponsored institution and it is supported through a number of different sources, so it's not quite a Hobby Lobby project on its own. Even so, to dismiss it because of the sponsor without even inquiring as to the content may be an erroneous prejudgment.

According to Wiki, which I assume is just repeating the mission statement, "The Museum is non-sectarian, non-political, and it will not proselytize.[2] The president of the Museum of the Bible, Cary Summers has noted, "Our goal is straightforward: reacquaint the world with the book that helped make it, and let the visitor come to their own conclusions. The Museum of the Bible is a global education institution that invites all people to engage in the Bible. We donít exist to tell people what to believe about it."

Even if it was coming at it from a specific pov, I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand; rather, it's a caveat to keep in mind when viewing it. Would WideRight also eschew visiting the Vatican or the Holocaust Museum because of the religious perspectives? He would be missing out, IMO. And, nothing precludes him from starting a museum that presents things as he describes, providing his own perspective. In that, he has the same rights as Hobby Lobby does in a free society.

However, it's
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 4/13/2017 9:36 am : link
i still prefer the wizarding world of harry potter
I'm not dismissing it out of hand....  
WideRight : 4/13/2017 9:38 am : link
I'm dismissing it because it is sponsored by the founder of the Hobby Lobby. This is an individual who has taken a legal stand that I disagree with. My instincts were correct. I don't believe anything they say about its lack or partisianship when his prior actions have been the exact opposite.

I have visited and appreciated both the Vatican and the Holocaust Museum. They are what they say they are: awesome for what they stand for. There is strong evidence that this Museum will not be what it portends to be. That is a consistently creepy thing about religion that I abhor.

Thank you for letting me know what I could do with my money, if I had it. To repeat, the really amazin gthing about the Bible from an atheist's point of view is how it came to be. What were the forces and influences that made it what it is today? Everybody can learn from that. What it actually says is dogma, and that doesn't appeal to everyone.
the museum is free  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2017 9:40 am : link
maybe wait until its open to judge it?
I would guess that a museum about the Bible  
Bill L : 4/13/2017 9:46 am : link
would be presented in such a way to make it educational and valuable to people who believe. I think it would be unreasonable to demand that it be presented using a foundation that religion is hooey and that the Bible is fictional. As I said, you are free to start your own and it would be more appropriate than insisting that others do it only your way in order to have validity.
Money was about opening my own museum...  
WideRight : 4/13/2017 9:47 am : link
Bill correctly pointed out that I could that.
I'm not insisting anything....  
WideRight : 4/13/2017 9:49 am : link
I'm not interested in going to this museum and I stated why. That's all the OP was discussing.
RE: I'm not dismissing it out of hand....  
mrvax : 4/13/2017 9:53 am : link
In comment 13426427 WideRight said:
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... To repeat, the really amazin gthing about the Bible from an atheist's point of view is how it came to be. What were the forces and influences that made it what it is today? Everybody can learn from that ...


As a believer myself, I agree with this.^^^
I might add, What does it teach and why? Is there anything here that may benefit me or society as a whole? Is there any scientific evidence that backs up its historical accounts, etc.
I have no idea  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2017 9:55 am : link
it won't be done until November, I guess we'll find out then.
I'm getting carried away...  
mrvax : 4/13/2017 9:55 am : link
and I apologize. Some here like Eric loves studying the Civil War. I really enjoy ancient civilizations.
RE: RE: I'm not dismissing it out of hand....  
BillT : 4/13/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13426458 mrvax said:
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... To repeat, the really amazin gthing about the Bible from an atheist's point of view is how it came to be. What were the forces and influences that made it what it is today? Everybody can learn from that ...



As a believer myself, I agree with this.^^^
I might add, What does it teach and why? Is there anything here that may benefit me or society as a whole? Is there any scientific evidence that backs up its historical accounts, etc.

There are certainly archeological findings that back up its historical accounts. And, as far as I know, none that contradict them.
RE: I'm getting carried away...  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13426463 mrvax said:
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and I apologize. Some here like Eric loves studying the Civil War. I really enjoy ancient civilizations.


Its all good. I'm not even advocating the museum, I just happened to not know it was even being planned until earlier this week and thought it was fascinating from the tech side of things.

On a side note the same marketing agency also did the advertising for the Ark Encounter museum in Kentucky. I'd never go to Kentucky just to see this but its pretty cool they made a massive, "life-size" Noah's Ark.
RE: RE: I'm getting carried away...  
mrvax : 4/13/2017 10:39 am : link
In comment 13426468 UConn4523 said:
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Its all good. I'm not even advocating the museum, I just happened to not know it was even being planned until earlier this week and thought it was fascinating from the tech side of things.

On a side note the same marketing agency also did the advertising for the Ark Encounter museum in Kentucky. I'd never go to Kentucky just to see this but its pretty cool they made a massive, "life-size" Noah's Ark.



There is a life-size Solomon's Temple in PA. I believe. There is an interesting collection of old to ancient bibles & manuscripts including small Babylonian tablets I've seen in the display at Orlando's Holy Lands park.

I'm just glad there is a lot of stuff to see that has not been destroyed. Yet. Some say that 75% of ancient Egyptian artifacts remain buried under the sands.
RE: I would guess that a museum about the Bible  
WideRight : 4/13/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13426450 Bill L said:
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would be presented in such a way to make it educational and valuable to people who believe. I think it would be unreasonable to demand that it be presented using a foundation that religion is hooey and that the Bible is fictional. As I said, you are free to start your own and it would be more appropriate than insisting that others do it only your way in order to have validity.


But if you are going to build something that does this, why don't you just call it a church?
I'm sure it will  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/13/2017 12:55 pm : link
be opulent and innovative from a tech perspective, but this seems like more like religious propaganda rather than education (propaganda seems a bit more nefarious than what I intend to convey).

A quick look at the bios of all the people on the board reveals a list of religious-based political donors and activists based on exclusively the Christian faith. If this is a museum of the Bible, I would think there would be board members who were Jewish scholars who focus on the Old Testament.

I don't have any problem with its privately-funded existence, but it's hard not to see an agenda beyond mere cultural preservation and education.
RE: RE: I would guess that a museum about the Bible  
Section331 : 4/13/2017 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13426778 WideRight said:
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But if you are going to build something that does this, why don't you just call it a church?


Marketing. Call it a church, and no one will go!
The Bible  
mavric : 4/13/2017 10:46 pm : link
even if one is non-religious in any way, is fascinating. It covers a ton of history that has been lost in the ashes of time and decay while archeological discoveries happening every year actually back up the Biblical accounts of before unknown knowledge.

It's also interesting to see how the Bible came to fruition and became canonized and translated over several thousand years.

I'm a history buff and particularly find ancient history extremely fascinating so I'd go if I was in the area.
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