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Asshat info-Hankins contract offer from Giants is 28 million

Vin_Cuccs : 4/12/2017 8:40 pm
I just talked to my guy very briefly. Said he just got this nugget of info. He's not sure why he suddenly got this information, but he thinks numbers are being leaked to try to get the situation to move forward before the draft.

No idea what the structure is, what the guaranteed money is, or how many years.

Just passing it along.
Article from NY Post  
Mellowmood92 : 4/12/2017 8:42 pm : link
Was just going to post it
Link - ( New Window )
if its 28M  
annexOPR : 4/12/2017 8:44 pm : link
it better be at least a 4 year deal ...
Whoops--  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/12/2017 8:46 pm : link
I guess this isn't exactly asshat info then: sounds like a lot of people got the info at the same time.

I can delete if needed.
RE: Whoops--  
robbieballs2003 : 4/12/2017 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13425948 Vin_Cuccs said:
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I guess this isn't exactly asshat info then: sounds like a lot of people got the info at the same time.

I can delete if needed.


Leave it up.
I'd guess  
mrvax : 4/12/2017 8:48 pm : link
28x4, $7M per, $14M guaranteed.
Don't delete, it's not posted anywhere else  
Mellowmood92 : 4/12/2017 8:49 pm : link
Yup it's 4 years 28m according to the article. Seems like a fair offer, I'm surprised he hasn't taken it
RE: Whoops--  
section125 : 4/12/2017 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13425948 Vin_Cuccs said:
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I guess this isn't exactly asshat info then: sounds like a lot of people got the info at the same time.

I can delete if needed.


Sounds like asshat info to me...

Minimum 4 years, but as we all know, it's the guarantee money. The guarantee $$ might be holding it up. 4 yrs, $12 mill guaranteed?
RE: if its 28M  
est1986 : 4/12/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13425939 annexOPR said:
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it better be at least a 4 year deal ...


Seems about right. I would rather play on a prove it deal than that if i was Hank, not saying he deserves more, just saying he should bet on himself.
It sounds  
Pete in MD : 4/12/2017 8:56 pm : link
like a very similar deal to what the Saints gave to Nick Fairley.
RE: It sounds  
jeff57 : 4/12/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13425966 Pete in MD said:
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like a very similar deal to what the Saints gave to Nick Fairley.

Hankins is better than Fairley. They should bump the guaranteed money up a couple of million.
From the article  
ZogZerg : 4/12/2017 8:58 pm : link
Quote:

according to the Indianapolis Star, an offer to Hankins from the Colts is unlikely.
I wouldn't mind raising the offer by .5M per year, and the  
yatqb : 4/12/2017 9:05 pm : link
guarantee by $1M, just so that he saves some face. But
I'd only do it if the Postons agreed that it would get the deal done. Otherwise, move forward.
The  
AcidTest : 4/12/2017 9:10 pm : link
New York Post article says:

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Harrison is considered the best run-stopping defensive tackle in the league.


I don't agree.

The deal is more than fair.
4 yr 28M  
annexOPR : 4/12/2017 9:10 pm : link
Would be perfect

Still think the Giants could go DL early in the draft regardless, but Hankins/Snacks back together would be lovely
Different from what I heard  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/12/2017 9:11 pm : link
But hey who knows?
Limerick  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/12/2017 9:13 pm : link
What did you hear? More? Less?
He's Going to Sign on Monday  
Samiam : 4/12/2017 9:14 pm : link
Slade
RE: RE: It sounds  
Pete in MD : 4/12/2017 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13425969 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13425966 Pete in MD said:


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like a very similar deal to what the Saints gave to Nick Fairley.


Hankins is better than Fairley. They should bump the guaranteed money up a couple of million.

They have pretty different skill-sets considering they play the same position. Fairley is much better at generating a pass rush but Hank is better against the run.
He should take it and be thrilled  
rdt288 : 4/12/2017 9:20 pm : link
-he has had maximum exposure to the market
-these guys risk their livelihood every down

Why would he not take this?

What's the alternative? A one year prove me deal where he could get injured ?
RE: The  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13425996 AcidTest said:
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New York Post article says:



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Harrison is considered the best run-stopping defensive tackle in the league.



I don't agree.



This was true after 2015 and when the Giants signed him though. Not sure what's to disagree with.
He really only  
Pete in MD : 4/12/2017 9:23 pm : link
has two choices. Take this deal or find a one year deal somewhere. It probably won't be the $8M that Poe got.
RE: RE: It sounds  
blueblood : 4/12/2017 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13425969 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13425966 Pete in MD said:


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like a very similar deal to what the Saints gave to Nick Fairley.


Hankins is better than Fairley. They should bump the guaranteed money up a couple of million.


actually I dont think he is better than Fairley. I think the are about the same player Fairley provided more pass rush.. Hankins more run stopping...

I believe the amount is being leaked because the Giants are growing tired of his agents crap..
RE: I wouldn't mind raising the offer by .5M per year, and the  
robbieballs2003 : 4/12/2017 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13425987 yatqb said:
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guarantee by $1M, just so that he saves some face. But
I'd only do it if the Postons agreed that it would get the deal done. Otherwise, move forward.


So, this guy totally played his hand wrong, has had a total of one visit, didn't answer his phone for about the first week or two of FA, has one other team truly interested in him and they view him as a backup, and you want to up the offer? Makes sense.
Absolute versus Relative Salaries  
KeoweeFan : 4/12/2017 9:38 pm : link
I'm an old coot.
When I was growing up, Moose Skowron opened a sign shop in my home town of Belleville in order to have an adequate annual income.
Don Newcombe made ends meet in the off season by opening liquor store in Newark (Nork for Jersey residents).
Phil Rizzuto and Yogi Berra, after attaining All Star status were able to pool their money and open a bowling alley on Route 3.
I've an MBA and understand economics, and I am a staunch defender of capitalism.
But when is enough enough?
I know the NFL life is short, but I also know you can live a life of luxury off the interest of a lot fewer than 28 million dollars.
What is your purpose in life; to somehow make more than the last Defensive Tackle made; or to play out the sport you love with your friends, in an area you've established roots, and where you have a chance to win a Superbowl?
End of Rant.
IMO, way too much  
ny2plano : 4/12/2017 9:45 pm : link
Hankins and his agents are total fools for not jumping on 4 years / $28 million. I would give me no more than a week. Need to get on with business prior to the draft.
I gate "prove it" deals especially for our own players  
Ivan15 : 4/12/2017 10:21 pm : link
After one year, the player is still looking for a big contract, regardless of how he performed.
RE: It sounds  
Milton : 4/13/2017 4:23 am : link
In comment 13425966 Pete in MD said:
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like a very similar deal to what the Saints gave to Nick Fairley.
That would explain why they said they made a "fair" offer.
He already signed there keeping it under wraps  
Tuckrule : 4/13/2017 4:50 am : link
If not, someone will be signed

Expect moves

-Slade
If the Giants have an idea.of what  
St. Jimmy : 4/13/2017 5:25 am : link
other offers are out there and their offer is the best, they should lower to just above the next best offer. Tell them the original offer is back when you come back with a new agent.
RE: Absolute versus Relative Salaries  
Sec 103 : 4/13/2017 7:02 am : link
In comment 13426055 KeoweeFan said:
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I'm an old coot.
When I was growing up, Moose Skowron opened a sign shop in my home town of Belleville in order to have an adequate annual income.
Don Newcombe made ends meet in the off season by opening liquor store in Newark (Nork for Jersey residents).
Phil Rizzuto and Yogi Berra, after attaining All Star status were able to pool their money and open a bowling alley on Route 3.
I've an MBA and understand economics, and I am a staunch defender of capitalism.
But when is enough enough?
I know the NFL life is short, but I also know you can live a life of luxury off the interest of a lot fewer than 28 million dollars.
What is your purpose in life; to somehow make more than the last Defensive Tackle made; or to play out the sport you love with your friends, in an area you've established roots, and where you have a chance to win a Superbowl?
End of Rant.

You sir are absolutely correct... And I bowled at Rizzuto - Berra lanes... Good times
I read the Post  
NNJ Tom : 4/13/2017 9:39 am : link
Can I be an asshat too?
Sure Tom.  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/13/2017 12:56 pm : link
Sounds good. Looking forward to your input.
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