Yes, Hankins signed a big deal that could net us a nice pick but, to my understanding, we need to lose more players than we sign. So, lets go through the list.
Players signed:
Marshall (doesn't count because he was released)
Ellison
Fluker (released)
Blake
Smith
Draughn
Players lost:
Hankins
Gould
Newhouse
Sensabaugh
That looks like 4 signed and 4 lost. Unless I am missing someone or a player was released as opposed to their contract expiring it looks as if we are not getting a comp pick. Am I wrong?
It is not a complex formula in terms of determining if you are eligible for a pick. It is complex to formula to determine where the picks will be slotted.
If we sign another FA who wasn't released then, yes, you are correct. But I said a 7th because of what Eric posted.
It doesn't take into account when you resign your own FA.
All those fluff and fodder signings are equal out in my vision of it all.
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In terms of slotting the picks, price of the contract, snaps, and something else get factored in. If we sign more FAs than we let go then it is irrelevant that Hankins got a lot more than Ellison.
"In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team."
"In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team."
Thanks for that aricle. I had to read that paragraph like ten times to comprehend that. Lol.
Either way, I am interested in truly understanding if we would get a comp for Hankins since there is language in there about value of players offsetting each other but it seems like Hankins and Ellison would not be in the same teir unless Hankins missed a significant amount lf time.
Over The Cap has the Giants even right now in terms of comp pick eligible players going in and out. Gould, Newhouse and Sensabaugh are projected to be worth a 7th; Ellison a 6th, Draughn and Geno a 7th.
In comment 13427409 James Kratch said:
Over The Cap has the Giants even right now in terms of comp pick eligible players going in and out. Gould, Newhouse and Sensabaugh are projected to be worth a 7th; Ellison a 6th, Draughn and Geno a 7th.
However, Giants lost Gould, Sensabaugh, Newhouse and now Hankins to contracts to contracts for significant dollars. So that's 4 lost to 1 added... for net of 3 lost players.
Therefore, I expect the Giants to get at least a 4th and maybe a lower pick in the 6th/7th round.
However, Giants lost Gould, Sensabaugh, Newhouse and now Hankins to contracts to contracts for significant dollars. So that's 4 lost to 1 added... for net of 3 lost players.
Therefore, I expect the Giants to get at least a 4th and maybe a lower pick in the 6th/7th round.
That would be awesome. Next year's draft is supposed to be pretty deep too.
Right now OTC only projects the Giants getting a comp pick for Hankins. The qualifying free agents coming in are Ellison, Geno and Draughn, heading out are Gould, Newhouse and Sensabaugh. In hindsight, that's probably a bit of good news for Draughn. Doubt it guarantees him a roster spot, but they did give up the shot at an extra pick.