There hasn't been a thread in a while. I am almost done with the last episode. I have to say, I am disappointed in what I perceive as a dropoff from season 1 and I'm curious as to others' opinions.
For one, what is the point of this Taylor character? Did they throw in the questionable gender to try to be progressive? I find it has the opposite effect and find the way that character is treated to be completely unrealistic in that environment. I know it is by design, but I don't care for the almost robotic nature of the character. I'm not sure if they related the personality to the gender issue, but I'm not a fan.
At this point they turned Wags into a caricature. I think they are doing the same with a lot of the fringe characters as well. At this point, I'm not rooting for either protagonist. I'm hoping they both just go away.
The show has definitely fallen off a bit from the first season. Still entertaining, but the gubernatorial run seems a little forced.
The show has definitely fallen off a bit from the first season. Still entertaining, but the gubernatorial run seems a little forced.
some of the stuff like Axe barging in to the club to confront Rhoades and his father seemed like a stretch.
and Rhoades going from losing his job to running for office on the back of the flimsy testimony from the dude whose wife the guy was banging and he just opens up at dinner also seemed unlikely and convenient, but that's why it's a fiction show.
I like the Taylor character, complex character obviously but capable of being a 100% emotionless analytical mind, fits very well with the industry I think and complements Axe nicely, you can see why he's drawn to her and favors her.
Also, found it interesting that Axe's lawyer was the crazy lunatic murderer guy from the first season of True Detective.
some of the stuff like Axe barging in to the club to confront Rhoades and his father seemed like a stretch.
and Rhoades going from losing his job to running for office on the back of the flimsy testimony from the dude whose wife the guy was banging and he just opens up at dinner also seemed unlikely and convenient, but that's why it's a fiction show.
I like the Taylor character, complex character obviously but capable of being a 100% emotionless analytical mind, fits very well with the industry I think and complements Axe nicely, you can see why he's drawn to her and favors her.
1) Things have been a little too convenient, even for a show of fiction
2) Is Taylor a she?
3) I don't find Taylor all that complex. I think they oversimplified a couple of stereotypes and characteristics.
4) What's the deal with Dollar Bill? The firt half of the first season, his name was mentioned multiple times an episode. When he was finally cleared or whatever, he has had a less than marginal role. He is credited with being in just about every episode, but that must include just showing up in the background. How many lines has he had this season? Five?
5) I find Terry Kinney's character annoying and another caricature type.
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you can see why he's drawn to her and favors her.
I have no idea why someone would put themselves through the 60 minute torture to only complain about nearly every aspect of the show.
I think Taylor identifies as gender neutral, but I believe biologically she's a she.
and the gender neutral pronouns don't fit in a written sentence grammatically and I'm a stickler for proper grammar, my apologies to the delicate flowers offended by my words like Brett.
Thank you.
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my apologies to the delicate flowers offended by my words like Brett.
Thank you.
My apology was insincere.
I have no idea why someone would put themselves through the 60 minute torture to only complain about nearly every aspect of the show.
I think Taylor identifies as gender neutral, but I believe biologically she's a she.
and the gender neutral pronouns don't fit in a written sentence grammatically and I'm a stickler for proper grammar, my apologies to the delicate flowers offended by my words like Brett.
Overall, I am still interested in the show and willing to see where it goes. I just think last season was worlds better. They dedicated the whole season to a long, drawn out story. This season almost seems like each episode is it's own somewhat related rushed story. I think I am most interested in what happens to Brian.
Speaking of which, did they ever really explain what happened between him and Kate? Last season the alluded to them heading toward getting together, but then we get to season two (how much time elapsed) and they are not together. Sometimes they seem adversarial and sometimes not. I'd like to know what happened. Either way, she seems to be playing her own games and setting herself up regardless of whether Brian or Lonnie gets the promotion.
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my apologies to the delicate flowers offended by my words like Brett.
Thank you.
My apology was insincere.
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In comment 13427510 BrettNYG10 said:
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my apologies to the delicate flowers offended by my words like Brett.
Thank you.
My apology was insincere.
Are you wearing your designer jeans?
I kind of struggle with how long Axe/Chuck can be interesting. They can't drag it on for five seasons, can they? I kind of agree with whoever said it seemed a bit lazy for him to go from about to be fired to Governor so quickly, but I can forgive it.
I think having Taylor as his second person in the poker game showed a little bit of where he was coming from a thought process, and him tanking it to set up the win for Taylor.
I think having Taylor as his second person in the poker game showed a little bit of where he was coming from a thought process, and him tanking it to set up the win for Taylor.
While I agree with everyone that this season is nowhere near season 1 in terms of storyline, writing, acting, etc, I still find it very entertaining.
1) Least likely - becomes more unscrupulous working with Axe
2) Her feelings of gilt grow and after more sessions with Wendy she turns on Axe (possibly whistle blower). This could prove an interesting story, as it would likely put a bullseye back on Wendy and Chuck from Rhodes.
3) She seemed to pick up on Wendy's guilt during the phone call. She could end up using that as leverage against Wendy and/or Chuck (blackmail, etc,). This would probably relate to option 1 as well.
Taylor is played by someone who lives with the same gender neutral identify in real life. Insists on being referred to as they, rather than he or she, just like in the show
I find the character very interesting - I agree with the general sentiment that the show has become pretty cartoonish, but still find it very engaging
I kind of like and dislike both Axe and Chuck, which is the point obviously. Want to see them both win or both lose.
Wendy has become like nails on a chalkboard though. Can you imagine spending time with someone so obnoxiously calculating in real life?
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hates the publicity the show got for Taylor, but I would be surprised if that is why they did it.
Taylor is played by someone who lives with the same gender neutral identify in real life. Insists on being referred to as they, rather than he or she, just like in the show
I find the character very interesting - I agree with the general sentiment that the show has become pretty cartoonish, but still find it very engaging
I kind of like and dislike both Axe and Chuck, which is the point obviously. Want to see them both win or both lose.
Wendy has become like nails on a chalkboard though. Can you imagine spending time with someone so obnoxiously calculating in real life?
I know, I read about her (they). I like the character too, my point as that the casting wasn't something self-serving by the show creators to seem edgy or progressive.
I think they tried to find a character that was so much opposite from Axe they should clash, but they don't they complement each other.
I think Taylor was created to demonstrate what drives and motivates Axe.
I find the casting of David Strathairn. I always liked him and wondered why he usually played a fringe, sad sack kind of guy. This role is very different for him, but he is doing it well.
This episode also did a good job reinforcing Chuck on the fringe of "good and evil".
Maybe she knew that Axe was tipped off about Sandicot, if that's even illegal and Chuck pursuing Sandicot will eventually lead back to his father.
I think his wife is boring as hell, totally uninteresting.
I hope not, too predictable. I think Taylor joins the dark side.
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My guess is Taylor spilling on Axe with a push from Wendy.
I hope not, too predictable. I think Taylor joins the dark side.
Maybe she knew that Axe was tipped off about Sandicot, if that's even illegal and Chuck pursuing Sandicot will eventually lead back to his father.
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I wonder if Taylor cracks. I don't think she (they) were involved in anything nefarious, but who knows.
Maybe she knew that Axe was tipped off about Sandicot, if that's even illegal and Chuck pursuing Sandicot will eventually lead back to his father.
Last night they were hinting at bribes, which would be illegal. But, Chuck isn't pursuing it (for now) because of Foley.
He wasn't going to pursue Sandicot. I doubt he's given up pursuing Axe. Especially with the book purchase revelation.
that seemed to push Chuck over the edge.
Seemed like a business venture his dad wants to pursue, and he's going to do it with money he's technically borrowing back from a trust he set up for his son/grand kids.
I'm unclear on what's illegal. Doesn't seem like any insider trading, is it just a conflict of interest somehow?
Seemed like a business venture his dad wants to pursue, and he's going to do it with money he's technically borrowing back from a trust he set up for his son/grand kids.
I'm unclear on what's illegal. Doesn't seem like any insider trading, is it just a conflict of interest somehow?
I couldn't figure that out either.
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fund use even illegal?
Seemed like a business venture his dad wants to pursue, and he's going to do it with money he's technically borrowing back from a trust he set up for his son/grand kids.
I'm unclear on what's illegal. Doesn't seem like any insider trading, is it just a conflict of interest somehow?
I couldn't figure that out either.
This deal with the IPO will very likely be his undoing. While I don't understand all the issues with the trust, they made it clear Chuck using it would present a conflict. How/why would he go along with his father saying they are fine unless anybody talks or traces it back to them or something to that effect? Chuck's whole career is based on sending people to prison for these types of dealings. Of course it is going to come back to them. Did he think running for Governor wasn't going to bring more scrutiny and more enemies?
This deal with the IPO will very likely be his undoing. While I don't understand all the issues with the trust, they made it clear Chuck using it would present a conflict. How/why would he go along with his father saying they are fine unless anybody talks or traces it back to them or something to that effect? Chuck's whole career is based on sending people to prison for these types of dealings. Of course it is going to come back to them. Did he think running for Governor wasn't going to bring more scrutiny and more enemies?
I'm not clear on how it's a conflict.
And you have the wrong sequence of events or my point wasn't clear. Foley convinces him to not pursue Sandicot b/c he vaguely explains it will come back to him (Foley) and his dad. "Everything is a circle with Sandicot"
My point was not pursuing Axe and not pursuing Sandicot are not one in the same. Chuck very much is still pursuing Axe and the book buy up by Axe seems like a catalyst for Chuck to cut corners/be more zealous in his pursuit.
And potentially make a misstep.
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But, he will certainly go after Axe with a passion now.
This deal with the IPO will very likely be his undoing. While I don't understand all the issues with the trust, they made it clear Chuck using it would present a conflict. How/why would he go along with his father saying they are fine unless anybody talks or traces it back to them or something to that effect? Chuck's whole career is based on sending people to prison for these types of dealings. Of course it is going to come back to them. Did he think running for Governor wasn't going to bring more scrutiny and more enemies?
I'm not clear on how it's a conflict.
And you have the wrong sequence of events or my point wasn't clear. Foley convinces him to not pursue Sandicot b/c he vaguely explains it will come back to him (Foley) and his dad. "Everything is a circle with Sandicot"
My point was not pursuing Axe and not pursuing Sandicot are not one in the same. Chuck very much is still pursuing Axe and the book buy up by Axe seems like a catalyst for Chuck to cut corners/be more zealous in his pursuit.
And potentially make a misstep.
that's what I thought at first, but his attorney is investing in it, it seemed like an investment stage company.
If his attorney can invest in it, not sure why it can't be with Rhoades' money.
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that's what I thought at first, but his attorney is investing in it, it seemed like an investment stage company.
If his attorney can invest in it, not sure why it can't be with Rhoades' money.