Anthony didnt suggest he would limit his potential destinations to just playing in Cleveland or Los Angeles with his buddies, LeBron James and Chris Paul. Though he hated the Celtics as a kid, Anthony probably can envision himself in green with the No. 1-seeded team in the Eastern Conference from Boston. A hat collector, Anthony already has some greenish-colored chapeaus. When he was asked in February at TD Garden if it would be strange to play for Boston, Anthony said, Maybe strange to you.
And what about the Wizards? They are his true hometown team, which could use a dynamic small forward to pair with a sizzling backcourt of John Wall and Bradley Beal. Anthony, who moved from Brooklyn to Baltimore at age 9, may even adore anti-triangle coach Scott Brooks, who joked at the Garden last week that I just run one play.
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Noah is staying and i am fine with that, he can be a good mentor to the young bigs and hopefully help them.with better defensive positioning and awareness
i think he fits the triangle with the ball movement and his 3 point shot but knicks have to find a slasher to go next to him or at the 3 spot especially if they really are enamored with frank...
knicks get 2 young players and take on 2 bad contracts, and also get a future pick..
probably the best trade knicks would be able to find..
I could see Phil being high on Sabonis
that is why threw in another first..
i thought aboit their young players, i dont think they would add randle ingram or that young cneter (forget his name)
i actually think lakers squash the slow build and go all in this summer
It's entirely possible Phil's been playing the long game with his mismanagement (and weird tweets), making NY so miserable Melo is finally happy to leave
What a clown show. Time to start getting it right this offseason, starting with the Melo trade
It's entirely possible Phil's been playing the long game with his mismanagement (and weird tweets), making NY so miserable Melo is finally happy to leave
What a clown show. Time to start getting it right this offseason, starting with the Melo trade
There is absolutely no way he had the offseason he had last year wth the goal being "push Melo out" he tried to add "win now" pieces
It really isnt. People werent slashing their wrists over it at the time. It was a calculated risk. They thought they'd lose Melo for nothing without the NTC clause, and viewed that as worse than giving him the NTC clause. This is really the worst case scenario -- could have been forseen but wasnt likely to be this bad. I.e. it wasnt likely that Melo would be so attached to the city after the writing was on the wall, or that he'd pick such a narrow list of approved teams, or that the narrow list of teams would literally have no future assets to trade. What if Phil had not resigned him? Maybe Dolan makes him use the future picks to obtain another star. Or we throw max money at a sub-star play to "replace" the lost star power in Melo. On net, I think the Melo contract was necessary and smart. You cant strip out one piece of the contract and call it dumb. It's like saying it was dumb to trade a pick as part of a bigger trade -- you evaluate the whole trade, not one piece of it.
The Noah signing was clearly worse. It was stupid ab initio. And guess what -- it's such a bad contract that it EFFECTIVELY has a NTC except for another terrible contract. I'd add in the Rose deal as a corollary to the Noah deal -- we traded away a good enough center on a good enough contract for 1 year of Derrick Rose, and in doing so left a hole that management felt had to be filled by over-committing to Noah.
The Chandler trade was worse. It actually hurt our cap situation. Giving JR and Shump away for shit was a classic misread of the value of depth (though in his defense I assume no one offered more).
And of course there is the Rambis love affair.
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giving Melo a full no trade may be the dumbest
It's entirely possible Phil's been playing the long game with his mismanagement (and weird tweets), making NY so miserable Melo is finally happy to leave
What a clown show. Time to start getting it right this offseason, starting with the Melo trade
There is absolutely no way he had the offseason he had last year wth the goal being "push Melo out" he tried to add "win now" pieces
I know, I'm being silly about it. Just tired of this shit. I think we all agree, hitting on another draft pick and pulling off a Melo trade would make a good offseason
knicks get 2 young players and take on 2 bad contracts, and also get a future pick..
probably the best trade knicks would be able to find..
This ascribes negative value to Melo IMO. Bailing LA out of the remaining 3 years each, $102 million combined on the Deng and Moz deals would require a give of more than Russell, Nance, and a #1.
It's not 100% clear what you get for giving teams cap room anymore. Probably not what PHI got from SAC. But it's tough to see a world where PHI gets Staukas, a pick swap, and a t10 protected #1 for clearing $13 million off Sacto's books if $102 million in terrible contracts gets you Russell, Nance, and a #1 and you give up Melo, who is still a good player. 2018-19 cap is expected to go up just 1%, yet contracts are still going to raise 8% or 5%, meaning teams are going to get crunched next offseason.
buss is on record saying she hired magic to turn around the lakers quickly and wants an all star on the team next year...
magic was not hired for a slow rebuild
It would suck having half your salary cap filled with bad contracts but I also don't see where these "good" contracts they will be turning down to do so. You can move lee easily to create cap room if that's a major concern. Might have 1 year where you go over the tax line to pay for KP, d-lo and Willy.
A bigger concern for me is how you'd build an elite NBA defense with D-lo and Willy being 2 major pieces.
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and especially the new agent GM pushing for Melo.
buss is on record saying she hired magic to turn around the lakers quickly and wants an all star on the team next year...
magic was not hired for a slow rebuild
It depends on the pick really. I can't imagine them going all out in acquiring vets iff the sixers get their pick. That's not something that's going to be relayed to the media in clear terms.
And Melo is hardly an all star. If you're getting the bad contracts off the books, that's a different story. Then it's not as much about getting Melo as it is clearing room for the summer of george.
Who says no?
Yeah, but Phils rings...
Who says no?
Unless it's all BS, the Lakers have really been talking up Ingram's late season "development" so I strongly suspect they would be the ones to say no.
I mean Melo has to be worth SOMETHING.
A subpar rookie year from Brandon Ingram probably qualifies.
As nyg16 said, the Lakers seem pretty intent on adding a star. What other route can they go?
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second half 13 points, 4 boards, 3 assists on 48% from the field. I'm not even a massive fan of his but if I'm the Lakers that's a hard no.
I mean Melo has to be worth SOMETHING.
A subpar rookie year from Brandon Ingram probably qualifies.
As nyg16 said, the Lakers seem pretty intent on adding a star. What other route can they go?
Again, I'm not a huge Ingram fan but he was 19 years old this season and went #2 overall. I'd be pretty stunned if they dealt him in a deal for Melo. For a Butler/PG13? Sure. The Lakers are almost certainly going to aim for PG13 before looking at other options. I suspect people are going to be very disappointed if they are expecting even an Ingram caliber young player return (and for the third time I'm not even a huge believer in him).
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second half 13 points, 4 boards, 3 assists on 48% from the field. I'm not even a massive fan of his but if I'm the Lakers that's a hard no.
I mean Melo has to be worth SOMETHING.
A subpar rookie year from Brandon Ingram probably qualifies.
As nyg16 said, the Lakers seem pretty intent on adding a star. What other route can they go?
I think Ingram is their top asset now. It seems Clarkson and to a lesser extent D-lo and Randle are the ones to be parted with. If I was the Lakers no chance I'm getting rid of Ingram unless I'm getting a sub-25 all star caliber player in return.
I know as fans we like to think that assets are everything, and so an Ingram-like asset plus a Deng is better than neither. But Im just not sure teams see things that way. You're signing yourself up for $22-25 million a year for basically Brandon Ingram. Is that such a good deal? Would most owners green light that?
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second half 13 points, 4 boards, 3 assists on 48% from the field. I'm not even a massive fan of his but if I'm the Lakers that's a hard no.
I mean Melo has to be worth SOMETHING.
A subpar rookie year from Brandon Ingram probably qualifies.
As nyg16 said, the Lakers seem pretty intent on adding a star. What other route can they go?
I think Ingram is their top asset now. It seems Clarkson and to a lesser extent D-lo and Randle are the ones to be parted with. If I was the Lakers no chance I'm getting rid of Ingram unless I'm getting a sub-25 all star caliber player in return.
I think their top asset is their 2017 (or 2018) #1 pick.
Grant has the appearance of a 3 and D wing. Abrines is a sharpshooter.
I probably prefer Ingram. I think he just fits a lot better no matter what you want to do style/personnel wise. Whereas Russell is a guy who others will have to fit around, both on offense and defense.
For Melo, yeah. If they keep it, it is Jackson, Fultz, or Ball.
I could see them trading it for George (like the Love trade) in an offseason where they get both George and Melo. The #1 plus another young asset and a bad contract for George. Would catapult Indy into a rebuild, but that's probably better than just 50-50 losing George (given no clear path to leaping to contention even with George).
I think Randle would fit very nicely next to KP. But I don't see the Lakers trading for Melo unless it was to dump the Deng or Mozgov contracts.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't see the Knicks getting anything valuable in return for Melo.
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than Ingram.
I think Randle would fit very nicely next to KP. But I don't see the Lakers trading for Melo unless it was to dump the Deng or Mozgov contracts.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't see the Knicks getting anything valuable in return for Melo.
Same. At this point I'm just praying for not taking back a bad deal (without being compensated for it of course).
When Boston gets knocked out. You think they'd be interested in Melo+Knicks pick(probably 6/7) for the #1 overall and fillers?