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nygnyy274 : 4/15/2017 2:27 pm
Very frustrating game so far, Yankees are up 1-0 but Martinez has walked 6 guys and struck out 8 batters Bird looks absolutely awful up their I am trying to be patient with this guy but maybe sending him down is best right now the only problem is Chris Carter stinks!! Both of them do nothing but strikeout. Only option in the minors is Choi he did have a good spring but so did bird and he is 1-25 with 13ks and a .040 batting average
Wow Martinez  
nygnyy274 : 4/15/2017 2:31 pm : link
10 strikeouts in 4 innings
11 ks for Martinez  
nygnyy274 : 4/15/2017 2:40 pm : link
Carter 3ks on the day
Why bat Carter 3rd?  
Eli Wilson : 4/15/2017 2:43 pm : link
He can't hit anything.

I think Ellsbury needs to move to the 3 spot for now.
here's Bird again with RISP  
micky : 4/15/2017 2:47 pm : link
oye vey
Bird at least BB  
micky : 4/15/2017 2:50 pm : link
.
This has a 3 runners-left-on-base  
giantsfan44ab : 4/15/2017 2:50 pm : link
feel to it.
ok just ignore  
superspynyg : 4/15/2017 2:56 pm : link
the thread started before yours.
Are the cards really this bad defensively  
micky : 4/15/2017 3:05 pm : link
so far today and yesterday they've been really bad in field
wow another bad defensive play puts it 2-0 now  
micky : 4/15/2017 3:07 pm : link
lol
Carter came through  
nygnyy274 : 4/15/2017 3:09 pm : link
What a whacky game
Castro  
Kyle in NY : 4/15/2017 3:18 pm : link
is flying open on every swing, making no adjustments. Just not a smart hitter
RE: Castro  
Tuckrule : 4/15/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13429681 Kyle in NY said:
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is flying open on every swing, making no adjustments. Just not a smart hitter


That's how he swings. His homerun yesterday front side flew open still hit it oppo. hes hitting very well how can you complain?
So typical  
Jay in Toronto : 4/15/2017 3:26 pm : link
CC just pitched 7 great innings and no mention?

We'd rather bitch.
RE: RE: Castro  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13429684 Tuckrule said:
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That's how he swings. His homerun yesterday front side flew open still hit it oppo. hes hitting very well how can you complain?


Because he has prodigious talent and squanders it by being dumb. He is mediocre and could be so much more.
Fantastic start from CC  
illmatic : 4/15/2017 3:38 pm : link
they really needed that today too.
Also, I'm starting to think Bird really does need to go to Scranton  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2017 3:41 pm : link
This has to be in his head at this point.
Greg  
Tuckrule : 4/15/2017 3:51 pm : link
True, but some guys just have an unorthodox way but production is there. Yankees hitting coaches don't seem to be correcting it. He did the same thing last season.

What should the yanks do with bird is the real question. How can you keep putting this guy out there? At what point do they have enough but ingusss it isn't like carter is much better and clearly a worse defender.
Clippard sucks  
illmatic : 4/15/2017 4:05 pm : link
Please don't blow this CC start and the game. Should have left Warren in.
A rocky 9th inning for the Yankee Clippard  
dpinzow : 4/15/2017 4:14 pm : link
but he nails down a save. 6 in a row
These games are  
dune69 : 4/15/2017 4:16 pm : link
hard. 6 in a row.
RE: Clippard sucks  
section125 : 4/15/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13429716 illmatic said:
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Please don't blow this CC start and the game. Should have left Warren in.


No Clippard doesn't suck. You are spoiled by Chapman, Betances and Miller. Clippard is pretty decent. No, he's pretty good, especially for a 7th inning set up guy - who can actually close.
Sheesh.............
Re: Clippard  
EddieNYG : 4/15/2017 4:36 pm : link
My reaction to him is that he can work out of jams, even if he puts himself in them and that is a sign of good relief man.

Clippard (7th), Betances (8th) and Chapman (9th).

How many teams in baseball wish they had that bull pen? Easily 25+
As for the Cardinals, it looks like they're rebuilding too  
dpinzow : 4/15/2017 4:50 pm : link
that team doesn't look intimidating at all
Matheny ready to tumble?  
Alan in Toledo : 4/15/2017 4:54 pm : link
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I went to the game today -  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2017 5:51 pm : link
One of our sons (used to be Charlie at Columbia on BBI) married a woman from St Louis and her dad is the biggest Cardinals fan I've ever seen, and he was in town for the event. A lot of fun, but a weird game.

First - everyone was wearing 42 for Jackie R, which was cool but live at the game it was hard to figure out some things, and pinch hitters took a long time to get announced because even the announcer needed a bit of time to figure out who was who.

As for the game itself - a weird one. The Cards really gave the game away. Their pitchers struck out 17 Yanks but walked how many? 12? The Cards committed two errors, one crucial, and had two wild pitches and a passed ball. They hit two HRs and the Yanks had few hard hit balls. Bird is lost at the plate and Carter is not much better, although he did have a hard hit RBI single.

However, CC was great, Warren was fine and Clippard escaped though he did make it exciting. Also - and you see this better live - the Yanks' "D" looks pretty good all around.
from RAB - didn't realize there was an issue about  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2017 6:23 pm : link
Bird still being hurt -

"And finally, another tough day for Greg Bird, who went 0-for-3 with a walk and two strikeouts. He is now 0-for-18 with two walks and eleven strikeouts in his last five games. Also, when Bird grounded out in the seventh inning, he could only jog down to first base. If hes hobbled that much by the ankle, why in the world is he playing and not on the disabled list?"
Bird  
Percy : 4/15/2017 7:05 pm : link
Has to get better at bat or be replaced. Soon, too.
I would play Holiday at 1B when he's bettter  
DennyInDenville : 4/15/2017 7:07 pm : link
And DH Judge to let Hicks keep playing RF

Hicks looks much refined and stud like so far
RE: I would play Holiday at 1B when he's bettter  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2017 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13429829 DennyInDenville said:
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And DH Judge to let Hicks keep playing RF

Hicks looks much refined and stud like so far


That's not a bad idea. Hicks is playing pretty well this year and the Gardner-Ellsbury-Hicks outfield was great defensively today. (Not that Judge is a bad outfielder, but I think Hicks is probably better.)

The "x" factor is Holliday at 1B - Bird is pretty good defensively, not so sure about Holliday there. They didn't play him there in spring training, that I can recall. Also, hopefully it's just short term, but Holliday had to be scratched as DH today because of a stiff back.
Yanks Have Won 6 in a Row...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/15/2017 8:20 pm : link
They can afford to let Bird work out of his slump, especially given their options at 1B. (And no, Holiday is not being considered for 1B. If they wanted him to play there he would have taken some reps at 1B in spring training.)
So Bird is in a slump it happens  
The 12th Man : 4/15/2017 9:56 pm : link
He will learn more of working out of it here than in Scranton. He was crushing the ball in the spring and we all got excited. This is major league pitching and he has been out for over a year give the kid a 100 at bats before everyone goes crazy.

The team is winning, the bullpen has looked great. CC has pitched very well and they are winning games. Why is everyone always so focused on the negative. Be happy this team is fun to watch again.
Bird looks like he's off  
Phil in LA : 4/15/2017 10:21 pm : link
balance. Don't know if it's the ankle or the flu stuff he had.
I thought I read that Bird has a bruised foot  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2017 10:27 pm : link
Maybe it is more than just a bruise?
RE: I thought I read that Bird has a bruised foot  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2017 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13429968 MadPlaid said:
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Maybe it is more than just a bruise?


That seems to be what RAB is suggesting. I thought he was OK by now, but maybe not. Hard to rest him ... Carter sucks right now too.
RE: Yanks Have Won 6 in a Row...  
Jay in Toronto : 4/15/2017 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13429870 Jim in Tampa said:
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They can afford to let Bird work out of his slump, especially given their options at 1B. (And no, Holiday is not being considered for 1B. If they wanted him to play there he would have taken some reps at 1B in spring training.)


Judge could be awesome at First B
RE: So typical  
LS : 4/16/2017 10:04 am : link
In comment 13429686 Jay in Toronto said:
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CC just pitched 7 great innings and no mention?

We'd rather bitch.

CC is done. Who thinks he could start for any other ML team? Isn't that what I read here?
RE: RE: I thought I read that Bird has a bruised foot  
section125 : 4/16/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13429974 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 13429968 MadPlaid said:


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Maybe it is more than just a bruise?



That seems to be what RAB is suggesting. I thought he was OK by now, but maybe not. Hard to rest him ... Carter sucks right now too.


While I agree with Carter not swinging a good bat, he too needs ABs to get into a consistent grove. Do not want to see Bird hurt a knee or pull a muscle compensating for the injury.
Might be best to let Carter play and let Bird heal more.
6 in a row.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/16/2017 10:32 am : link
Enjoying this team right now. They are on a roll. Hope they can keep it up. All without Didi and Sanchez. Pretty impressive.
RE: 6 in a row.  
section125 : 4/16/2017 10:38 am : link
In comment 13430118 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Enjoying this team right now. They are on a roll. Hope they can keep it up. All without Didi and Sanchez. Pretty impressive.


Even more impressive is this where they are at after the BP blowing saves in Baltimore.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
RE: RE: RE: I thought I read that Bird has a bruised foot  
Del Shofner : 4/16/2017 11:05 am : link
In comment 13430107 section125 said:
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While I agree with Carter not swinging a good bat, he too needs ABs to get into a consistent grove. Do not want to see Bird hurt a knee or pull a muscle compensating for the injury.
Might be best to let Carter play and let Bird heal more.


If Bird needs more rest, it might make sense to let Carter play 1B today against Wainwright (who he's probably seen a lot of) and then tomorrow as the Chisox are starting a LHP.

Those suggesting Bird should be sent down - who would come up? It would have to be Refsnyder - there's no other healthy 1B on the 40-man and the Yanks aren't using a 40-man move over Bird.

OTOH, if Bird is hurt, replacing him with Ref for a bit might not be crazy.
RE: RE: 6 in a row.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/16/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13430122 section125 said:
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In comment 13430118 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Enjoying this team right now. They are on a roll. Hope they can keep it up. All without Didi and Sanchez. Pretty impressive.



Even more impressive is this where they are at after the BP blowing saves in Baltimore.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!


Yep. This is a really fun team to watch. They are HOT right now. No losing to inferior teams this weekend for this team.
Well now  
The 12th Man : 4/17/2017 4:12 am : link
How about the Bird Man?
I guess he  
The 12th Man : 4/17/2017 7:31 am : link
Finally got tired of listening and reading to all the BBI critics.
RE: I guess he  
mfsd : 4/17/2017 8:01 am : link
In comment 13430920 The 12th Man said:
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Finally got tired of listening and reading to all the BBI critics.


Same with Headley, Castro, Hicks, and CC - great starts across the board
Don't worry  
The 12th Man : 4/17/2017 12:26 pm : link
The next 0-4 or bad start the armchair GM's will be back
RE: So typical  
nygnyy274 : 4/18/2017 7:03 am : link
In comment 13429686 Jay in Toronto said:
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CC just pitched 7 great innings and no mention?

We'd rather bitch.



Yup that's why it's called a game thread
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