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Dave Te's Possible Day 3 DT Steals

nflscouting : 4/15/2017 4:16 pm
It seems I might have touched a nerve or two here by saying McDowell would only get a dog bone from me. Honestly, Hankins is no great loss. This is a draft where you can find some nice DT steals during Day 3. Here are some that I like, especially the last one;

Carlos Watkins-Clemson - great burst off the snap & had that upper body bulk to clog the rush lanes (round 4)

Eddie Vanderdoss-UCLA- (round 5)the scheme the Bruins had him in hid his talents, but he's a Fraily type with a great motor & I love the way he slides along the line

Charles Walker-Oklahoma (round 6)- another quick burst type but like McDowell, lets his emotions get in the way. Second round talent, if he gets his act together

My man, my gumba, Gordon Stewart-Albany State - I love this guy - reminds me of Big Snacks & can certainly out-eat him! Of his 37 tackles this year, 20 were for losses! He's just shy of being named a state (347 pounds), but if you want someone that can eat up an OL, go on youtube & check out those arm swipes.

As for McDowell, as I stated in a previous post, I just can't see the fit & CBS obviously agrees with his weakness & boy, his emotions. He had a major meltdown when Michigan center Mason Cole turned him into his girlfriend this year. Suh might get away with those outbursts because he's great. McDowell is no N. Suh! There is a crap load of DTs that can fill the needs at DT during Day 3 activity.
Elijah Qualls  
EddieNYG : 4/15/2017 4:17 pm : link
Where will he go in this draft?
I see that two of your guys,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/15/2017 4:21 pm : link
Eddie Vanderdoes and Carlos Watkins made USA Today's top 150 players.

Vanderdoes at 98 and Watkins at 108
I'm definitely in for Eddie Vanderdoes  
allstarjim : 4/15/2017 4:30 pm : link
in the 4th round or 5th if he's still there. I do think it would be great to get a real penetrating DT on day 1 or day 2, however. The guy I really want on our team is Demarcus Walker. I think he'll go in the 2nd round. We'll see.
QUALLS  
nflscouting : 4/15/2017 4:30 pm : link
I see him off the board in round 3 - look for someone that likes a zero gap type to draft him. As for Vanderdoss & Watkins, I agree - have them higher than where they might be drafted, as I see stupid teams getting antsy & popping on mediocre QBs and filling other neesds, knowing there's a nice array of more blue collar DTs dropping as a result
RE: I'm definitely in for Eddie Vanderdoes  
AcidTest : 4/15/2017 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13429733 allstarjim said:
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in the 4th round or 5th if he's still there. I do think it would be great to get a real penetrating DT on day 1 or day 2, however. The guy I really want on our team is Demarcus Walker. I think he'll go in the 2nd round. We'll see.


Second vote for Walker, unless we take Wormley in the first, which I think is possible.
Sure hope Reese's team  
mrvax : 4/15/2017 5:11 pm : link
sees your write-ups and tucks that info away.
Thanks, Dave.
Totally agree on McDowell  
Lionhart28 : 4/16/2017 6:26 pm : link
I bet he's off the giants board u too round 3, headache
I think Watkins is the best of that group  
Ira : 4/16/2017 7:17 pm : link
and the only one that begins to replace Hankins. Considering where we pick in the 4th, he probably won't be there. I think we should go day 2 at that position and target someone like Montravius Adams. This is an important position and we don't have a starting quality tackle on our roster to play next to Snacks.
I think Watkins is the best of that group  
Ira : 4/16/2017 7:18 pm : link
and the only one that begins to replace Hankins. Considering where we pick in the 4th, he probably won't be there. I think we should go day 2 at that position and target someone like Montravius Adams. This is an important position and we don't have a starting quality tackle on our roster to play next to Snacks.
Sorry for the double post  
Ira : 4/16/2017 7:19 pm : link
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Dave  
lono801 : 4/16/2017 7:31 pm : link
Is it Grover or Gordon Stewart?

I checked out a Grover as per one of your other threads...

He certainly is a big boy with quicks.
My eyes are on Montravius Adams in Round 3 and Vanderdoes in Round 4  
Anakim : 4/16/2017 7:31 pm : link
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eagerly awaiting Dave and Sy to chime in on DTs!  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 8:54 am : link
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Jai Johnson and Tomlinson  
jeff57 : 4/17/2017 8:59 am : link
are two other possibilities.
Qualls was an initial thought but I  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 9:04 am : link
changed my mind after watching some short videos.

Seemed to get knocked off to easily. Obviously it would depend on round, but it seems that this team does well with multiple type dts, can hold up well vs run sometimes double teams, and have some pass rush or horizontal movement upside but not needing to be great.

Cofield, Canty, Hankins may be examples. Snacks being a welcome exception as a giant nose type with upside and by all means add another if you can.

I would have to go back and look, but Qualls seemed like a heavy 3 tech, which is a nice concept, but for the money one would want someone who plays with low leverage as well vs the run and does not get knocked sideways on those plays that don't match the opportunity as planned.

So I switched back to generalist and landed on M. Adams.

Stats are fun  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 9:21 am : link
for example, a totally unknown DE with 3 fumbles recovered.

Fumbles recovered to me indicates things that are otherwise hard to measure.

Gaelen Elmore, DE, 6'5" 275 Minnesota Golden Gophers, 3 fumbles recovered.

Requisite size at DT, check, overlooked due to small school, check...

As a UDFA, sure, why not?
but here is where M. Adams separates himself from say,  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 9:23 am : link
Qualls:

In addition to having a bigger frame to build out in the NFL with professional help as opposed to Qualls: 2 fumbles recovered from the same list where you can see DE Elmore having 3.
typo, elmore size at DE not DT clearly  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 9:28 am : link
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Agree with Ira on Watkins  
Jimmy Googs : 4/17/2017 9:36 am : link
Others may be fine too but probably don't see field much in year 1 and maybe year 2...
check that  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2017 10:02 am : link
DE Elmore, no problem drafting the kid in 6 or 7
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