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NFT: The Leftovers: Season Three, Episode One (Spoilers):

bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 10:02 am
Didn't see a Leftovers thread, as it was a busy night on the local sports scene with the Yankees and Rangers, but - as usual - I was blown away by it.

The opening sequence with the religious cult preparing for the rapture that never came, and the closing scene with "Sarah," just completely blew me away. So haunting.

Also, the mystery surrounding the baby, and the cast on Nora's arm, which are likely related. The whereabouts of Erika, and the surprise relationship between John and Laurie. Lots to chew on, as usual.

Looks like we're heading to Australia soon!
I was busy lastnight  
UConn4523 : 4/17/2017 10:05 am : link
but plan on watching it at somepoint this week. Will check back in once I do.
Very solid opener.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/17/2017 10:08 am : link
bceagle, I was a little distracted with something as the show began, so I think I missed a detail.

In that very opening sequence in the 1800s, why did the husband turn on his wife?
Interesting stuff last night  
Metnut : 4/17/2017 10:10 am : link
I'm glad the show is back. Always great use of music on Leftovers.

Since this season is a "series finale" I'm expecting some absolutely crazy stuff to happen.
RE: Very solid opener.  
Metnut : 4/17/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13431057 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In that very opening sequence in the 1800s, why did the husband turn on his wife?


The cult/commune kept getting the dates of the "rapture" wrong and they lost most of their members because the members thought it was all a fraud. Looks like the husband thought it was a fraud but the wife was the biggest true believer.
They were part of a religious cult (Millerites, if you want to Google)  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 10:15 am : link
that believed the rapture to be coming on a particular date in 1844. The date came and went, then another date came and went, and the people started to realize it was a sham, including the husband, who eventually abandoned the wife because she still had hope.
A lot of changes seem to have taken place since last season.  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2017 10:20 am : link
One thing I love about this show is how they are able to create questions in your mind as to what is going on and then tie it together beautifully for you in the end. I am very interested to see how it all plays out.
Ive never really figured out  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2017 10:20 am : link
if they were going to go full "religious" with this show or if it was more just about a tragedy and the way human's would have to face something extraordinary and the ramifications that would come with it in the fallout.

I loved last night's episode but it definitely seems like they are going all in on the religious aspect.

Usually the show throws curve balls though so we'll see.
RE: RE: Very solid opener.  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/17/2017 10:31 am : link
In comment 13431068 Metnut said:
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In comment 13431057 Mike in Long Beach said:


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In that very opening sequence in the 1800s, why did the husband turn on his wife?



The cult/commune kept getting the dates of the "rapture" wrong and they lost most of their members because the members thought it was all a fraud. Looks like the husband thought it was a fraud but the wife was the biggest true believer.


Thanks, man.
What's the deal with peanut butter?  
Motley Two : 4/17/2017 10:32 am : link
And I love how this show has me legitimately wondering about peanut butter. WTF?
RE: What's the deal with peanut butter?  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2017 10:33 am : link
In comment 13431110 Motley Two said:
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And I love how this show has me legitimately wondering about peanut butter. WTF?


Dogs like peanut butter?
Were there some posts deleted in this thread?  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2017 10:39 am : link
Weird
RE: RE: What's the deal with peanut butter?  
Motley Two : 4/17/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13431114 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13431110 Motley Two said:


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And I love how this show has me legitimately wondering about peanut butter. WTF?



Dogs like peanut butter?


Remember season 1 where Kevin brought his dad peanut butter at the psych ward?
Ah forgot about that.  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2017 10:59 am : link
Maybe there is more to it then.
If that National Geographic pops up again  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 11:08 am : link
I'm done.
RE: If that National Geographic pops up again  
Motley Two : 4/17/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13431203 bceagle05 said:
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I'm done.



There's some really interesting stuff in that actual issue of Nat Geo that ties into show, so it just might.
what an excellent  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/17/2017 11:19 am : link
intense show. Last season was the best season of any show I saw on television last year. It's a shame that this is the final season, but it's going to be one hell of a ride.
Is Sarah  
liteamorn : 4/17/2017 11:45 am : link
Nora? Sure looked like her
It's certainly the actress who plays Nora  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 11:51 am : link
but in "Leftovers" world, who knows? She reacted when the woman asked her if "the name Kevin means anything to you," so I'd imagine it has to be an aged Nora.
So that was Sarah at the end right,  
Ceez2.0 : 4/17/2017 11:53 am : link
along with what looked like an aged Nora?
Unless I missed something  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 12:03 pm : link
Nora is going by the name "Sarah" in that scene. It was a glimpse into the future - or past?? Who knows in Leftovers world. Her reaction to the name Kevin makes me think it was Nora 40 years later or something, in Australia after whatever shit goes down in the remaining episodes.
RE: Unless I missed something  
Ceez2.0 : 4/17/2017 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13431272 bceagle05 said:
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Nora is going by the name "Sarah" in that scene. It was a glimpse into the future - or past?? Who knows in Leftovers world. Her reaction to the name Kevin makes me think it was Nora 40 years later or something, in Australia after whatever shit goes down in the remaining episodes.


I thought the lady (Sarah) with the head garment on was the same lady for the opening scene who kept going on the roof. And Nora was the lady on the bike with the doves. I def could be wrong, I was 7 beers in by then.
No, the lady in the head garment was not identified  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 12:35 pm : link
and I'm 99% sure she was NOT the woman from the opening sequence. Nora was riding the bike at the end, and the lady in the head garment called her Sarah, not Nora. Hopefully they at least resolve that twist by the end.
It was most definitely Nora, though she responded by the name Sara.  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2017 12:57 pm : link
This is the whole reason they showed Nora going on a bike ride earlier in the episode from essentially the same view.
Sorry, maybe I got confused over the whole Sara thing.  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2017 12:58 pm : link
But the old lady on the bike was definitely Nora
Just to be clear since nobody's brought it up  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2017 1:07 pm : link
He has been killing himself over and over again right? Is that what we saw in the scene with him putting the bag over his head? They didn't actually show him die but Im guessing we can surmise it after the conversation he had in the church.
RE: Just to be clear since nobody's brought it up  
Motley Two : 4/17/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13431353 ZGiants98 said:
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He has been killing himself over and over again right? Is that what we saw in the scene with him putting the bag over his head? They didn't actually show him die but Im guessing we can surmise it after the conversation he had in the church.


It sure looks that way. Matthew, Michael & John are believers. Apostles?
Yeah it looks that way.  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2017 1:55 pm : link
The way they quickly cut to him strutting outside made it seem like it's all just part of his morning routine. I guess Matt's right that he can't be killed?
Loved the ep, as always.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/17/2017 2:54 pm : link
Is it even remotely possible that Lily's mother came back for her? I have difficulty seeing John and Laurie married only because John clearly doesn't have it all together if he thinks Evie is still alive. I'm fairly certain he hasn't told Laurie about "The Book of Kevin".

The season 2 and 3 intros from are so interesting. In the cavewoman one, she survives a catastrophic event through luck (like the people of Jarden). In this one, people are expecting a catastrophic event to the point they ignore their families and life in general.
For all the feints and zig-zags...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 8:32 am : link
...the show seems pretty faithful to a couple of core concepts:
1) The world is full of inexplicable wonders;
2) Our feeble attempts to explain or control those wonders, or organize them into a coherent narrative, mostly end in frustration, disillusionment, charlatanism or worse.

I think the preludes for Seasons 2 and 3 (The Cavewoman and the Millerites) fit this basic pattern.

As for the Nora/Sarah scene, there's some obvious Book of Genesis stuff there - Sarah herself being a central figure who has a complex relationship ship with another woman's baby before receiving her new name from God and bearing a "miracle" child of her own - with a little bit of New Testament Messiah-denial thrown in. Probably best not to over-think the Biblical parallels, since that's among the showrunners' favorite traps. I have no clue what kind of messages/wishes/blessings she was detaching from the birds and collecting/discarding in the bin. That could be an act of supreme cynicism or one of unexplained faith (depending on what you make of the Millerite carrier pigeons) or something else entirely. I guess we'll find out, or not.
Am I the only one who watches shows and doesn't realize half of this  
tbonfig : 4/19/2017 2:34 pm : link
stuff?

Maybe it is because I'm multitasking (shows/work or phone), but man, this thread is a great read on aspects that I didn't even consider.

I binged the first two seasons a week or so ago and this is one of the better shows on television right now. What a great series so far.
It definitely requires a second viewing  
bceagle05 : 4/19/2017 2:45 pm : link
or some scouring of the reviews or fan websites. Always a lot to process.
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