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My 2017 mock draft

Big Rick in FL : 4/18/2017 6:56 am
Bored at work. Thought I'd put together a little mock draft. I'm sure you guys are going to tear it apart. This is what I think the Giants will do. Not what I would do personally.

1(23) - Zach Cunningham LB Vanderbilt
2(55) - Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
3(87) - Daeshon Hall DE Texas A& M
4(140) - Larry Ogunjobi DT Charlotte
5(167) - Zane Gonzalez K Arizona State
6(207) - Will Holden OT Vanderbilt
7(241) - Kareem Are OG FSU
The Giants do not like Cunningham  
Tuckrule : 4/18/2017 7:01 am : link
That much. Dave pretty much said it throughout the draft discussion. He lists reddick, lamp, Davis, bowser and Willis round 1
Hi Rick  
Rjanyg : 4/18/2017 7:23 am : link
Very solid draft and would fill many needs. I think the OT will go much earlier though.

You like Cunjingham more than Davis? Or do you think Davis will be gone by #23?
RE: The Giants do not like Cunningham  
Eman11 : 4/18/2017 7:29 am : link
In comment 13432134 Tuckrule said:
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That much. Dave pretty much said it throughout the draft discussion. He lists reddick, lamp, Davis, bowser and Willis round 1



I believe he called him "Michael Boley light" lol.

I also don't see the Giants passing on a CB in this draft. In fact, I'd bet they take one early day two at the latest.

Not feeling this Mock Rick  
GMen23 : 4/18/2017 7:35 am : link
Maybe the Giants are smoking us on Cunningham. But over the last week, Colin, Sy, & Dave Te, have really swayed me away from Giant love for Cunningham. I have enjoyed a lot of your posts over the past year, an admit the self proclaimed Gator Fan you are, I respected your recent advocation for Cunningham over Jarrad Davis (injury history).

I think the Giants can do better at TE then Leggett at 55. I applauded Reese last year for not drafting into his biggest weakness, “Picking Offensive Lineman". and coming away with what looks like a strong class in 2016.

But I would be disappointed if the O Line was not addressed until the 6th Rd., and a RB was not even drafted.
I do really like Will Holden, I just don't think  
barens : 4/18/2017 7:52 am : link
he'll be around in the 6th round. Seems like a solid draft tho, I have zero qualms with Cunningham.
The only pick I like  
Earl the goat : 4/18/2017 8:00 am : link
Is the 7th rounder Kareem Are
Not feeling the rest of your mock. Sorry.
RE: RE: The Giants do not like Cunningham  
Carson53 : 4/18/2017 9:09 am : link
In comment 13432146 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13432134 Tuckrule said:


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That much. Dave pretty much said it throughout the draft discussion. He lists reddick, lamp, Davis, bowser and Willis round 1




I believe he called him "Michael Boley light" lol.

I also don't see the Giants passing on a CB in this draft. In fact, I'd bet they take one early day two at the latest.
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That sounds about right, he is undersized. Also, from what
I read in the scouting reports, has trouble shedding blocks.
IIRC, Boley had the same issue, being undersized, I never thought Boley weighed much more than 230 or so myself.
Like I said this isn't what I'd do personally  
Big Rick in FL : 4/18/2017 9:12 am : link
But most of our beat writers are saying Cunningham. Including Ranaan whose been on the money when it comes to our draft picks. He called Flowers a month early. Same with Leonard Floyd who even hitdog said was going to be the pick if he was there. So I gotta believe what he says until he's proven wrong. Don't get me wrong I do like Cunningham a lot also. It's not solely for the fact that our beat writers say we are interested.

I think Cunningham is getting a bad rap on here and I can't really figure out why. He's got the size the Giants like in a LB and he's a 3 down player. I'm a Gators fan and I do like him better than Jarrad Davis. IMO Cunningham would be ranked right near Rueben Foster if he played with the same talent around him that Davis had. He was literally Vanderbilt's only good player on defense. So teams could game plain against him yet he still was very productive. The main problem everybody has with Cunningham is his missed tackles and I think that's completely overblown. Yes he does miss some, but when he does miss them it's normally on plays outside of the tackles or him trailing from behind. With guys like OV & JPP setting the edge I don't think that will be a problem for him if we drafted him. He's going to be a better NFL player than college player. Also the Giants have a very good track record in the 1st round. So if they do take him I will have no problem with it at all.

I'm sure a lot of people are going to hate on the Kicker in the 5th round, but he's an absolute stud. I think he has potential to be the best Kicker in the NFL and I'm really praying he makes it to your pick in the 5th round. I'd even give up a later round pick in 2018 to move up for him.

Just bored at work. Was hoping to get a good discussion going.
Not one  
Doomster : 4/18/2017 9:21 am : link
defensive back?
Nope  
Big Rick in FL : 4/18/2017 9:40 am : link
Just couldn't find anywhere that value matched. I think we are pretty good at DB. We have a lot invested there. Definitely could use some depth at CB, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a vet brought in. Maybe someone like Leon Hall brought back or sign someone like Alterraun Verner, Brice McCain, Jason McCourty.

I really like our DBs though. Jackrabbit, DRC, Apple, Hunter, Deayon, Collins, Darian Thompson, Adams, Rahim Moore, Mykkele Thompson, Blake Valentino & Nat Berhe. Collins should continue to improve. Apple, Adams & Darian Thompson are all going into their 2nd year. So I expect improvement from them.
Doomster  
Big Rick in FL : 4/18/2017 9:44 am : link
I was thinking CB in the 3rd. If a guy like Sidney Jones was still there I'd take a gamble on Jim, but I think Daeshon Hall's size and upside would be very intriguing to the Giants.

He's 6'5 266 with 35" arms. He showed very good athleticism at the combine. He was overshadowed by Myles Garrett, but he has a ton of potential. Think he fits exactly what the Giants look for in a DE.
Just did one on Fanspeak...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/18/2017 10:03 am : link
23: R1P23 RB DALVIN COOK FLORIDA STATE
55: R2P23 TE EVAN ENGRAM MISSISSIPPI
87: R3P23 OG ISAAC ASIATA UTAH
140: R4P33 CB JOURDAN LEWIS MICHIGAN
167: R5P23 S RAYSHAWN JENKINS MIAMI
207: R6P23 EDGE HUNTER DIMICK UTAH
241: R7P23 K ZANE GONZALEZ ARIZONA STATE

I like mine better than yours - not as big of a fan of Cunningham and think Cook at 23 is a pretty good value there. I was really surprised/happy to get both Engram and Asiata as well - the offense should be improved with these three additions.

Figured I could wait on defense since the draft is deep and was happy with the players I found late. Also, just felt that we should probably take a kicker although I don't know much about the guy I took - just went with the highest kicker on the board.
Don't see...  
Moose and Fury : 4/18/2017 10:05 am : link
Ogunjobi available in the 4th or Holden available in the 6th. 5th too early for a kicker (though I would consider taking him in the 6th and definitely the 7th).

Cunningham seems long shot-ish for the Giants to take in the first.
RE: Just did one on Fanspeak...  
Carson53 : 4/18/2017 10:07 am : link
In comment 13432302 Dan in the Springs said:
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23: R1P23 RB DALVIN COOK FLORIDA STATE
55: R2P23 TE EVAN ENGRAM MISSISSIPPI
87: R3P23 OG ISAAC ASIATA UTAH
140: R4P33 CB JOURDAN LEWIS MICHIGAN
167: R5P23 S RAYSHAWN JENKINS MIAMI
207: R6P23 EDGE HUNTER DIMICK UTAH
241: R7P23 K ZANE GONZALEZ ARIZONA STATE

I like mine better than yours - not as big of a fan of Cunningham and think Cook at 23 is a pretty good value there. I was really surprised/happy to get both Engram and Asiata as well - the offense should be improved with these three additions.

Figured I could wait on defense since the draft is deep and was happy with the players I found late. Also, just felt that we should probably take a kicker although I don't know much about the guy I took - just went with the highest kicker on the board.
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It is doubtful the Giants will touch Cook, based on their
most recent drafts (oh captain, my captain). It really doesn't matter what his perceived value is.
RE: RE: Just did one on Fanspeak...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/18/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13432314 Carson53 said:
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It is doubtful the Giants will touch Cook, based on their
most recent drafts (oh captain, my captain). It really doesn't matter what his perceived value is.


Yeah - he's probably off their board altogether. I think I might take a chance on him though. I'd really like to add offensive weapons - guys who are matchup problems and I think between Cook and Engram teams will have a hard time stopping our 11 personnel package.

Beckham - Marshall - Shepard - Cook - Engram

Asiata helps shore up the interior of the line - giving us a chance to have Pugh compete for the LT position in camp, and allowing us to hold a hard line on his salary demands with his upcoming free agency.
If you want to do a mock...  
Carson53 : 4/18/2017 10:12 am : link
I would suggest putting a DT in the first three rounds.
It should be pretty obvious, they will take one within the
first three rounds. It is just an observation.
Via Fanspeak  
Saos1n : 4/18/2017 1:31 pm : link
23: R1P23
EDGE HAASON REDDICK
TEMPLE

55: R2P23
TE ADAM SHAHEEN
ASHLAND

87: R3P23
C ETHAN POCIC
LSU

140: R4P33
DL EDDIE VANDERDOES
UCLA

167: R5P23
RB JAMES CONNER
PITTSBURGH

207: R6P23
WR CHAD WILLIAMS
GRAMBLING

241: R7P23
CB NATE HAIRSTON
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