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NFT: Mets Minors 4/18/2017- Nice day on the farm

DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 9:11 am
AAA- Hand
AA- Pill
A+ Church
A Harol


The following minor leaguers are currently injured (Its nuts how man)

Holderman (unknown injury)
Flexen (knee surgery)
McNeil (Hip surgery, happened a while back but still not on the field)
Haggard (Tommy John)
Szapucki (Shoulder impingement)
Woodmansee (unknown)
Tiberi (upper body injury)
Zanon (Concussion)
Molina (unknown)
Cruzado (oblique)
Jose Garcia (TJ)
Alonso (broken hand)
Chase Ingram (unknown)


AAA-
Dom 3-5, walk off homer (first
real HR of the season. OPS a sweet 1.036)
Rosario 2-5 (hasnt shown any power at all yet)
Rivera 1-5, 2 ks
Plawecki 1-4, HR
Evans 1-3, BB
Knapp 7 innings 9 hits 4 runs 0 walks 4 ks
Sewald 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 ks

AA
Thompson 1-4, 1 bb, 1 k (awful first 10 games in AA)
Kaczmarski 1-4, HR, BB, 2 ks (striking out a lot for a non-power guy)
Guillorme 0-3, BB, K
Stuart 0-3, BB 2 ks
Familia 1 inning perfect 1 k
Peterson 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 ks (6 innings 3 hits 0 runs 2 walks 6 ks to open the season)

St. Lucie
Mora 2-5, 2b, K
Becerra 1-4, HR, 2 ks
Mazeila 1-5, HR, 2 ks
Urena 2-4, 2 2b, BB, K (real bright spot so far)
Palsha 2 innings 2 hits 1 run 1 walk 1 k
Brantley 1 perfect 1 k
Bashlor 0.2 innings 2 hits 2 runs 1 walk 1 k
Dimino (position player) 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 0 ks, Save


A
Lindsay 1-4, 1 bb, 2 ks (very rough start)
Carpio 1-3, BB, K (.375 so far)
Paez 0-3, BB, K
Dash 0-4, Tebow 1-4, K
Sanchez 0-3, K (despite a few years of praise the guy really needs to show he can actually hit. Hes only 20 so he has time but has a .398 OPS this season after a terrible (.535) season in BK)
Blake Taylor 6 innings 7 hits 2 runs 3 walks 7 ks (2 starts 11 innings 7 walks 14 ks, missing bats = good, continues to show issues with walks = bad) all in all first two starts thumbs up from me.


Any concern yet with  
Metnut : 4/18/2017 9:48 am : link
Rosario not showing any power? He's hitting for a really high average which is nice but we don't want him to be a singles hitter.

Maybe just an adjustment to AAA and short sample size given how early it is in the season?
He barely played in AA  
ZGiants98 : 4/18/2017 9:49 am : link
We need to be patient with Rosario. All the talk of rushing him to the majors was ridiculous.
RE: Any concern yet with  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 9:50 am : link
In comment 13432278 Metnut said:
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Rosario not showing any power? He's hitting for a really high average which is nice but we don't want him to be a singles hitter.

Maybe just an adjustment to AAA and short sample size given how early it is in the season?


No concern from me (at least not this early). There are conflicting opinions on his future power (some think he's going to be an 8-10 homer guy, others 20ish) but that will work itself out. I really only mentioned it because it's "notable" 0 extra base hits over 12 games in the PCL is "not good" but concern longer term? None from me.
Non-prospect  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 9:51 am : link
OF/1B Jeff Diehl reportedly hit 96 pitching yesterday... position change please? lol
RE: He barely played in AA  
Metnut : 4/18/2017 9:53 am : link
In comment 13432281 ZGiants98 said:
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We need to be patient with Rosario. All the talk of rushing him to the majors was ridiculous.


He's not ready, but if he's in AAA he shouldn't be THAT far away. If Reyes continues to stink, Flores continues to be replacement level vs RHP, and Wright doesn't come back, the idea of MASSIVELY upgrading our defense by putting Rosario at short and moving Cabrera to 3B for the last few months of the season is really tempting to me. Again, it's still realllly early, but this is a message board and speculating is fun (at least for me!).

Would be great if he can be in position to help us make a world series run in 2017.
Not happy to see  
Metnut : 4/18/2017 9:54 am : link
Lindsay struggling, but at least he's playing every day. If he can put in a full healthy season, it'll likely be a positive for his value. You'd have to think the production will be there sooner rather than later.
RE: Non-prospect  
Metnut : 4/18/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13432285 DanMetroMan said:
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OF/1B Jeff Diehl reportedly hit 96 pitching yesterday... position change please? lol


Lol why not?
RE: RE: He barely played in AA  
ZGiants98 : 4/18/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13432286 Metnut said:
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In comment 13432281 ZGiants98 said:


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We need to be patient with Rosario. All the talk of rushing him to the majors was ridiculous.



He's not ready, but if he's in AAA he shouldn't be THAT far away. If Reyes continues to stink, Flores continues to be replacement level vs RHP, and Wright doesn't come back, the idea of MASSIVELY upgrading our defense by putting Rosario at short and moving Cabrera to 3B for the last few months of the season is really tempting to me. Again, it's still realllly early, but this is a message board and speculating is fun (at least for me!).

Would be great if he can be in position to help us make a world series run in 2017.


Yeah it would be great if he was raking but realistically he is one of the youngest players in AAA (Dominic Smith is too) and he needs time. I'd expect him to play the whole year in AAA and get a cup of coffee in September. TJ and Cheech will get opportunities first if Reyes keeps struggling.
In fact...  
ZGiants98 : 4/18/2017 10:00 am : link
I wouldn't be surprised if the number one reason Cabrera's option is picked up is to STILL have insurance at SS next year.
Eh  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 10:00 am : link
Lindsay isn't so young where just staying healthy is a "win". Again it's extremely early but if he's a guy worth monitoring he should be able to hold his own in the SAL this season. He might be taking TOO many pitches. 9 walks, 14 k's over 32 ab's. Call me in 20+ more games but so far he's been beyond awful through his first 10 games (Tebow has an OPS 100 points higher for context)
Worst thing to happen to Mets fans  
Shecky : 4/18/2017 10:05 am : link
was to see a report calling Rosario an MVP level prospect...
RE: Eh  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2017 10:05 am : link
In comment 13432297 DanMetroMan said:
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Lindsay isn't so young where just staying healthy is a "win". Again it's extremely early but if he's a guy worth monitoring he should be able to hold his own in the SAL this season. He might be taking TOO many pitches. 9 walks, 14 k's over 32 ab's. Call me in 20+ more games but so far he's been beyond awful through his first 10 games (Tebow has an OPS 100 points higher for context)


With players in the lower minors it is also difficult because if you are dealing with a bad umpire a player may be accumulating K's because he has to swing at bad balls because that is what the umpire is calling strikes or is taking called strikes that really should be called balls. Would also be interesting to know how Dimino threw.
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 10:07 am : link
BA with a boner inducing report on Gimenez. Sounds like a potential future star and potentially the #1 prospect in the system this time next year. Yes that glowing.
Tyler  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 10:07 am : link
Bashlor also injured. Unreal.
Rosario  
Csonka : 4/18/2017 10:12 am : link
Kid's hitting .362 and we're concerned about power?
I'm more concerned that he only has 2 walks, but I'm not concerned. He's hitting. If he was hitting .200 with no power, then maybe I'd be concerned.
RE: Rosario  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 10:16 am : link
In comment 13432325 Csonka said:
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Kid's hitting .362 and we're concerned about power?
I'm more concerned that he only has 2 walks, but I'm not concerned. He's hitting. If he was hitting .200 with no power, then maybe I'd be concerned.


Not to turn this into some sort of "knock" on Rosario but he's hitting .362 with a .405 BABIP and 4.3% walk rate. Considering his ballpark/league he's off to an "okay" start. His 112 wRC+ isn't even top 50 in the league.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 10:19 am : link
a big time Rosario fan. But you either discuss how guys are doing early (with the very real caveat of how early it is) or what is there to discuss? So far the two most disappointing big names have been Lindsay and Dunn. I'm more concerned with Dunn (as concerned as you can be through 2 starts).
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 2:08 pm : link
C_Blessing: #Mets prospect Blake Taylor 88-93 FB. Looks very much like pitcher I saw in Kingsport.
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DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 2:13 pm : link

That is one weird tweet. On one hand that velocity is more than fine from the left side on the other... Taylor was awful in Kingsport in 2014(5.05 FIP), last year 8.2 innings 5 hits 8 walks 12 k's Is that supposed to be a compliment or a negative?
Rosario is making consistent contact  
Vanzetti : 4/18/2017 2:44 pm : link
That is the primary thing you are looking for at this point.

I doubt he is ever going to hit with much power. But a SS who can hit .280 with plus defense and speed is fine.

The real key for me is that Dom Smith, Rosario and Cecchini give the Mets three low-cost starters, who will free up money to sign the starting pitchers and maybe even add a top arm in the pen.
RE: .  
Shecky : 4/18/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13432813 DanMetroMan said:
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That is one weird tweet. On one hand that velocity is more than fine from the left side on the other... Taylor was awful in Kingsport in 2014(5.05 FIP), last year 8.2 innings 5 hits 8 walks 12 k's Is that supposed to be a compliment or a negative?


Blake Taylor aka "The Worst kept Secret" lol

That's a great question, no clue what that tweet actually means. Especially quoting a fastball range that is either 'no chance he will make it pst AA' to '93, he could get by with that...'
Shecky  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 2:49 pm : link
I know you don't love the "experts" but boy does Badler love Gimenez. Drool worthy stuff. Almost makes me wonder why they didn't challenge him and send him to Columbia.
RE: Shecky  
Shecky : 4/18/2017 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13432906 DanMetroMan said:
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I know you don't love the "experts" but boy does Badler love Gimenez. Drool worthy stuff. Almost makes me wonder why they didn't challenge him and send him to Columbia.


His potential is certainly drool worthy. He's got all the right pieces to be the next Rosario. Which simply means he is a prospect to become a prospect. Personally, I love watching them more at this point than AAA.

Why push him though? Let him put it together first, not like he's being blocked if he is tearing it up and earns a promotion.
RE: RE: Shecky  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13432932 Shecky said:
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In comment 13432906 DanMetroMan said:


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I know you don't love the "experts" but boy does Badler love Gimenez. Drool worthy stuff. Almost makes me wonder why they didn't challenge him and send him to Columbia.



His potential is certainly drool worthy. He's got all the right pieces to be the next Rosario. Which simply means he is a prospect to become a prospect. Personally, I love watching them more at this point than AAA.

Why push him though? Let him put it together first, not like he's being blocked if he is tearing it up and earns a promotion.


In summary

- "sweet swing"
- All fields approach, stays in there vs. lefties
- hard worker, studies game tape
- Chance to be a .300+ hitter with high walk #'s
-10-15 homer power upside "possibly more"
-Plus runner with a good body
-plus arm
-high first round pick talent level
-upside is one of the top prospects in the game


I really dig Badler as a writer. Then again I'm biased because he focuses heavily on IFA players which maintain that "mystery" that is always fun.
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2017 3:08 pm : link
like Milton Ramos is a bust. Off field issues, doesn't hit at all and in the Tebow HR video Ramos looks like he's bulked up quite a bit
RE: Looks  
Shecky : 4/18/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13432944 DanMetroMan said:
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like Milton Ramos is a bust. Off field issues, doesn't hit at all and in the Tebow HR video Ramos looks like he's bulked up quite a bit


Ramos is a shame. All the talent in the world. But it all stops there. Gave up on him years ago after an 'incident'.
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