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I eagerly want to clean up this roster next. We cant stick with a 4 man bench for long and Familia should replace a scrub soon enough. Hoping Familia's get's Edgin spot....

... because he's not hitting? Or something else?

Why worry? They've got parts to plug in.

Doubtful Reyes is completely shot. Just struggling. It happens. Long season.

In comment 13432330 Beezer said:

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... because he's not hitting? Or something else? Why worry? They've got parts to plug in. Doubtful Reyes is completely shot. Just struggling. It happens. Long season.

That's coming from Kristie Ackert Beezer. Here's the link.
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to make big changes. He's the best arm we have over there currently. I'd give him until about the middle of May. If he still isn't hitting at all I go with TJ or Rivera. Maybe shifting guys around the infield if I had to.

"TJ or Cheech"

struggles the last 3 games (5 runs over 1.1 IP) may suggest overusage. Montero, Blevins, Robles, and Smoker 5 appearances 3.1 IP 0 runs. Edgin gave up 1 run over 1.2 IP. Edgin is harder to trust at the moment but I wouldnt give up on him just yet, he's a loogy.

giving you zero production offensively. And he hasn't exactly been a defensive guru at third either (not bad but nothing to rave about either).

Again, like with Granderson...you don't need to bench the guy but inserting fresh players that will actually contribute a little more often wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Reyes has been the worst staring player (offensively) since the beginning of the season.

once they get into the bullpens of the Phillies and Nats. Both are bottom 3 in MLB.

In comment 13432353 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 13432330 Beezer said: That's coming from Kristie Ackert Beezer. Here's the link. Link - ( New Window )

Thats a really, really bad headline. Those that were counting on him to be an average, or above, productive 3B were out of their minds. Felt all offseason Valbuena would have been the PERFECT utility guy to pair with Flores for this team. Ironically he's been hurt - making him even more Met like than I imagined.

but reyes walked in his last 3 games. It's possible he's seeing the ball better and stopped getting himself out by swinging at pitches out of the strike zone. If his plate discipline is better then he should be closer to the Reyes we know.

It's not like a real cold streak lasts a few days. I'm not a huge Reyes guy anyway so Im fine working in a few other options. I just wouldn't pull the plug yet when he easily has the best arm over at 3B.

Be definitely seeing the ball better is Walker. Would be nice if he really heated up.

And call up cheech or play flores

And a better slider. Why do we need a third lefty in the pen? I don't even hate Edgin. He might "meh" his way into a half way decent season. Wouldn't shock me. The problem is he is out of options and is holding a spot over more deserving options. A second or third LOOGY isn't that big of a need in a bullpen.

Had such high hopes for them in the late 2000's and sad to see what injuries have done to their careers the last 5 years or so.

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Had such high hopes for them in the late 2000's and sad to see what injuries have done to their careers the last 5 years or so.

They both go home with rings this year if we win it all. :)

He was a big phils fan and usually offered some good insight on them.

as well.

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And call up cheech or play flores

Metrics suggest when Walker was at 3b he was absolutely awful (and it's been a long time). I don't think that is an option.

15 games at 3b career in the bigs (none since 2010), HE was deemed the inferior defensive 3b to... Pedro Alvarez. 15 career games -31.5 UZR

a player needs more than a day of experience in Metland for a SS to move to 3B. It's the same side of the infield and you need a strong arm. Reyes picked it up quickly (not saying he's great) and Cabrera would too.

Ideally Cabrera moves to 3B when Rosario is ready.

However, the Mets did ask Walker if he would play 3B prior to signing both times and he's been very vocal about willing to play there.

I just dont think the Mets care all that much unless he's a complete butcher. They yanked Murphy back and forth so many times and he was bad defensively everywhere.

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a player needs more than a day of experience in Metland for a SS to move to 3B. It's the same side of the infield and you need a strong arm. Reyes picked it up quickly (not saying he's great) and Cabrera would too. Ideally Cabrera moves to 3B when Rosario is ready. However, the Mets did ask Walker if he would play 3B prior to signing both times and he's been very vocal about willing to play there. I just dont think the Mets care all that much unless he's a complete butcher. They yanked Murphy back and forth so many times and he was bad defensively everywhere.

He was considered "awful" at 3b in the minors. Again, he moved over for Pedro Alvarez who is a DH. Walker is unlikely to feel comfortable moving over to a position he hasn't played in 7 years while he's not hitting in a FA walk season.

last season but still relevant since it relates to 3b with Wright out

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"A more radical plan would be shifting Neil Walker to third base and promoting second baseman Dilson Herrera from Triple-A Las Vegas. But team brass has reservations about moving Walker, who has played just 15 games at third base in the majors,"

shit. Montero's OBP against... .541. Man does he suck. I remember seeing so impressed with him seeing him in Bing.

Just saying it wouldn't shock me if the Mets tried it anyway. They dont seem to place much of an emphasis on experience at certain positions, ect. like some teams might.

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shit. Montero's OBP against... .541. Man does he suck. I remember seeing so impressed with him seeing him in Bing.

Ive seen enough. I was impressed this spring but we cant have him nibbling and trying to improve at a snails pace in the majors. I cant get Montero, Gilmartin, and Edgin off this roster fast enough.

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Just saying it wouldn't shock me if the Mets tried it anyway. They dont seem to place much of an emphasis on experience at certain positions, ect. like some teams might.

I'm not saying there is absolutely no chance. I just doubt it's the first or second thing they try. I wish they had a 3b prospect on the way but sadly there doesn't seem to be anyone of note. Maybe Urena can build back some of his prospect status. I'm not a believer in Thompson.

What the heck happened to him? In 2015, in a pretty large sample, he was flat out sexy.

Is it really just Vegas? Could he succeed in a long man role again? Is he just finished?

heard whispers his shoulder hasn't been 100% since 2015 but who knows how true it is?

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Mets Lineup

Michael Conforto � CF
Asdr�bal Cabrera � SS
Yoenis C�spedes � LF
Jay Bruce � RF
Neil Walker � 2B
Lucas Duda � 1B
Jos� Reyes � 3B
Travis d�Arnaud � C
Zack Wheeler � RHP
Phillies Lineup

Cesar Hernandez � 2B
Daniel Nava � LF
Odubel Herrera � CF
Maikel Franco � 3B
Michael Saunders � RF
Tommy Joseph � 1B
Cameron Rupp, C
Freddy Galvis � SS
Zach Elfin � P

make a concerted effort to play Conforto more. Full day off and Granderson is out of the lineup the day after doesn't bode too well for him.

is the oldest position player on the team, maybe he needs more days off. Though seems highly unlikely as he's played a lot the last few years. 155, 157, and 150 games last 3 seasons.

lineup shouldn't scare the Mets. Hernandez and Herrera are the only dangerous players at the moment. For everyone else, Rupp's 71 OPS+ is the highest. Nava has only 14 plate appearances.

a solo shot and a couple more batters before getting the last out only giving up 1.

Nice work by our hitters to regain the lead but reyes continues to be a blackhole in the lineup.

Apparently we're the best in the NL with RISP right now. Who woulda thought?

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I have seen. It is a violent upper cut that has almost no chance of making contact. Who is working with this guy? They desperately need to level out his swing. You can see he has no chance at the plate.

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up violently swinging away into the predictable out. Sit his ass down please.

Cespedes, Bruce, Walker, and Duda. That's my prediction.

From the 8 hole

Not throwing as hard as his last start

My prediction was wrong. lol

Reyes.

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Being an issue since he can't pitch more than 5 innings

the last couple of innings. Nice to see him make 5 at least.

And he has a cool last name.

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And he has a cool last name.

:)

Reyes

Such a waste of a player right now all around.

God dammit Reyes!

This has the makings of a loss

Needs to stay away from using Salas until like the weekend.This guy is going to be completely toast before the all star break

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This shitty offense is killing the Mets bullpen.

In comment 13433680 PhiPsi125 said:

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This shitty offense is killing the Mets bullpen.

They struggle when they can't get a HR. Discouraging to keep seeing them get shut down by mediocre pitching

catch the ball. Damn

in Philly feel like a long time ago.

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This shitty offense is killing the Mets bullpen.

Exactly! Another 4 fuckin hits tonight!!! So frustrating

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In comment 13433680 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: This shitty offense is killing the Mets bullpen. They struggle when they can't get a HR. Discouraging to keep seeing them get shut down by mediocre pitching

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Start Flores in place of Reyes, for good.

Play all their games at Citizen Bank Park.

Then maybe the Mets will resemble a good baseball team.

I don't know what happened to him, but he just can't pitch at this level.

on the Lagares throw?! Awful, just awful!

The birds are making a racket at CitiField.

figure it out because "he's earned it"

Reyes is 5 for 50 and looks like a disaster all over the place.

Maybe give him a few days off and work on figuring some stuff out? But no, can't sit shitty vets because of their fragile egos. Jesus Christ.

Wish it was a better game. Ugh.
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You do a good job with these. Tough to write one after a game like tonight :(

I think Wilmer should get more abs than Reyes at this point, but either way Mets are still better than they've shown the past few nights and a bunch of wins are coming up IMO.

Of course they will rattle off a bunch of wins soon. Only to follow that up by a bunch of maddening losses. They are the epitome of a .500 team with a small bump in wins due to their excellent starting pitching.

Their approach and philosophy is the same as last year...awful. If they don't bang out HRs then they rarely win. I'm all for saying "it's still early" but nothing I've seen this far makes me believe anything has changed. They seem to be the same one-dimensional team. I was hoping that healthy players might be the difference maker but it seems that it's the offensive philosophy that's breeds this type of play.

MMO wrote a great article on this back in January detailing the offensive woes from last season.
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when they face top tier pitching night after night.

...every stupid questionable move he made last year turned into gold. That won't happen again. Ever. The guys play hard for him is the only good thing you can say about the man as a baseball manager. Well that and he hired Warthen lol.

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In comment 13433716 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Wish it was a better game. Ugh. Link - ( New Window ) You do a good job with these. Tough to write one after a game like tonight :( I think Wilmer should get more abs than Reyes at this point, but either way Mets are still better than they've shown the past few nights and a bunch of wins are coming up IMO.

Thanks Metnut!

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...every stupid questionable move he made last year turned into gold. That won't happen again. Ever. The guys play hard for him is the only good thing you can say about the man as a baseball manager. Well that and he hired Warthen lol.

Funny how the one thing most people agree on, the players play hard for Collins, is the one thing I have consistently been bitching about for years. I don't know what others are watching, but I havent seen hard nosed, going through a wall baseball in Citi in several years... I'd settle for just one player who runs hard the full 90 feet to first.

That's an exaggeration...and it's the same all over the league. This isn't our father's game anymore in that regard. Coaches don't sit players for taking their foot off the gas when running out ground balls. They should but they don't. Collins has the clubhouse, that's not in question.

They say people can't change - which I don't believe. Terry came in with a reputation of players HATING him. He will leave here with players having nothing but respect for him. Similar to another TC in NY.
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The team does not play "hard" for him. If anything, I'd argue the opposite. And don't give me the line players don't hustle like in the good old days. There were PLENTY of lazier players back in the day than in todays game.

is thriving in Familia's absence. Certainly couldn't use another quality arm.

The Mets HAVE to snap out of it, a fast start was critical given the schedule.

It's not a line and it's not the players that are different it's the expectation. It's ok to pull up on that run to first. 'Why risk the injury' is the mindset. Coaches let it slide all over MLB. That's the point. They like him and try hard for him.

That's important but as a strategic guy and bullpen guy Collins blows chunks.

But keep in mind my favorite player of all time was perhaps keith Miller. yeah, that guy lol.

First pro game of his life. Head first into the bag. Dislocates his pinky. That would be considered hustle for most players. But oh no. He pops that pinky back in all by himself. Finishes the game (this is where I think 'fear of injury' is more like full of shit...).

Doesn't just finish the game though. Keeps playing. And takes him REINJURING IT before the team forces him to the DL. I don't exect every player to have that in them. It's one of the rarest traits to find in an athlete. BUT, when you are given g-d given ability, respect the game and play hard.

As an FYI - Hanley is perhaps my least favorite player of this generation for those very same reasons. And why I am not the biggest fan of Ces.

DMM?
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Anyone going to post a minor league recap from last night? It was a good night, sure everyone would love to hear about it if you guys are around.

Lincecum

Montero has to go back to AAA and leave Gilmartin up here.

...over some of the guys they traded/released was stupid.

Montero left ip over the plate was like hitting off a tee for the Phillies last night in EXTRAS

ERA 9.45 by Montero.

I vomit every time I see him on the mound.

Call Doug Fister? Give Gilmartin a chance

Maybe piggy back him and Matz in nine innings would be good for both

Why didnt TDA look up while the ball drifted towards him?


Reyes probably didnt want to crash into him as tda stood there

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Why didnt TDA look up while the ball drifted towards him? Reyes probably didnt want to crash into him as tda stood there

Yeah, TDA should have moved but it looked like he just froze as if he didnt know where Reyes was going to go. It also looked like Reyes was moving away from TDA until the last minute when he changed direction towards TDA. Even so, the ball was in his glove. How it popped out, I'll never know. He catches that ball and it's likely a win for the Mets.

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Getting out of the way for sure but the ball was in Reyes glove. I have to put that mostly on Reyes. Also why isn't Montero on a plane to Vegas for an infielder? Seriously? Enough.

Also nobody mentioned it but why remove Salas who got three outs (really 4) with two outs in the 8th with a righty coming up? Why go to your LOOGY there? Ugh. Oh well.