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Bucs at Giants, 1985 - NFL Films Game of the Week

BillKo : 4/18/2017 1:29 pm
Yet another won.........Jints pull one out!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA-qAkHILFg
I just remember that LT used to say....  
kinard : 4/18/2017 1:33 pm : link
... that James Wilder was the best running back he ever played against.

That's quite a testimonial for Wilder.
RE: I just remember that LT used to say....  
Matt in SGS : 4/18/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13432703 kinard said:
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... that James Wilder was the best running back he ever played against.

That's quite a testimonial for Wilder.


It's funny you mentioned Wilder. I remember when the Giants faced Bo Jackson for the only time in 1989, Belichick was asked what his thoughts were to be ready for Bo and he said this:

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''He's the best runner I've seen,'' said Bill Belichick, the Giants' defensive coordinator, ''and I've coached against O. J. Simpson, Earl Campbell, James Wilder and Eric Dickerson. He has size and speed and vision and quickness and explosiveness.''


Think about that. Belichick put Wilder in there with 3 Hall of Famers. His career was wasted in Tampa Bay.

That said, if BBI was around in 1985, the pitchforks would have been out in this game. The Bucs were 0-8 and had the worst defense in the NFL and it was a dogfight. One of the reasons I like going back and doing the old game reviews, is at times, the combination of nostalgia and age tend to make the past so much more rosy than it really was. For every game we saw the Giants blow in the later Coughlin years and all the hyperbole that it never happened under Parcells, I would see games that were all very similar, and yes, the great Giants defense at times did struggle. There were times that Parcells had them flat and they were lucky to win. Not everything was 49-3 vs. the 49ers in 1986.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/23/sports/giants-know-this-they-must-stop-bo.html - ( New Window )
And continuing with Matt's assessment of those Giants teams....  
BillKo : 4/18/2017 2:14 pm : link
....you think Eli Manning has some tough games?

Phil Simms, who was a terrific QB, had some major clunkers.......fumbled snaps, fumbles, interceptions. The list goes on.

Like Simms, reminiscing back will be very kind to Eli.


Those Parcells teams could make you crazy.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/18/2017 2:19 pm : link
1985 featured some of the most maddening games of his tenure - especially the two losses to Dallas, clunkers against mediocre teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati and Green Bay, and even some wins where they survived against weak opponents like Philly and Tampa Bay. On paper, the 1985 and 1986 teams were very comparable. On the field, the '85 team hadn't quite figured out how to seal the deal.
I was at that game  
Sec 103 : 4/18/2017 2:20 pm : link
ugggh...
Matt superb post  
Stu11 : 4/18/2017 2:35 pm : link
so true. We really are tougher on the contemporary teams than the past. Frankly the Parcells era featured so many of these type games. Mind boggling losses and tougher than they should have been wins. They were a combined 19-13 in 84-85 and easily could have won at least 5 more of those games.
My Recollection of that Cincy Game,  
clatterbuck : 4/18/2017 2:37 pm : link
Simms threw for more than 500 yards and defense couldn't hold on.
Also I always found the 80's NFL films style  
Stu11 : 4/18/2017 2:37 pm : link
of showing field level close-ups of the play an interesting and unique perspective of the game and the nature of the hitting and physicality, especially in the trenches.
oh wow!! that was my 1st Giants Game EVER  
YorkAveGiant : 4/18/2017 3:56 pm : link
cant wait to get home and watch it.

I remember Terry Kinard with a big INT and Simms with a classic Simms game...not many yards, no TDs but a W.
I believe the giants beat KC thanks to a crazy late comeback in 85  
djm : 4/18/2017 8:01 pm : link
Weird year. That Team was and wasn't good enough....
RE: I believe the giants beat KC thanks to a crazy late comeback in 85  
BillKo : 4/19/2017 9:07 am : link
In comment 13433455 djm said:
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Weird year. That Team was and wasn't good enough....


That was 1984............
RE: RE: I believe the giants beat KC thanks to a crazy late comeback in 85  
djm : 4/19/2017 10:51 am : link
In comment 13433907 BillKo said:
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In comment 13433455 djm said:


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Weird year. That Team was and wasn't good enough....



That was 1984............


I think i'm finally showing my age. Damn all to hell.
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