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NFT: Habs at Rangers: Game 4 gamethread

redbeard : 4/18/2017 1:42 pm
Time to nut the fuck up. That showing on Sunday was a freaking abomination and I hope the boys are disgusted enough that they come out with a fire in their belly.

Will the squad show they got something between their legs? Will we score a fucking goal on home fucking ice in the fucking playoffs? Who the fuck knows, but this is the season tonight because I don't see this squad coming back from down 3-1

No word on line-ups changes yet. It's nut up or shut up time, gents.

Let's fucking go
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2017 1:10 pm : link
Honestly, after his goal last night was probably the most animated I've ever seen Rick Nash or was at least close. He's always been a very low-key guy - but I think he realizes the importance of this and how big that goal was for us.

He looks like a guy who doesn't want this season to end any time soon and is going to do everything he can to keep playing well into the spring. Love what I'm seeing from him.
Great game  
BestFeature : 4/19/2017 1:36 pm : link
Best playoff game in a while.
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MetsAreBack : 4/19/2017 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13434303 arcarsenal said:
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Honestly, after his goal last night was probably the most animated I've ever seen Rick Nash or was at least close. He's always been a very low-key guy - but I think he realizes the importance of this and how big that goal was for us.

He looks like a guy who doesn't want this season to end any time soon and is going to do everything he can to keep playing well into the spring. Love what I'm seeing from him.



He is playing well, but man we've got to get these Centers going. We have just 7 goals on Carey Price in almost 13 periods of hockey. I think the 4th line has 3 of those goals and Grabner has another. We have to start solving him, which means Stepan / Mika / Hayes (and Kreider / Miller) really need to join us this series.

Hopefully Weber will start somehow wearing down (I doubt it but a man can dream). He's been logging Duncan Keith minutes this series (nearly 30/game).
Agree.  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2017 2:06 pm : link
Tough series for Step and Mika especially so far. Those guys really need to get going. I thought Zib was a little better last night - but we still need more from him.

On the plus side, Girardi has been passable. I'd even venture to say he's been pretty good in most of these games.
The Rangers definitely lack a physically dominating Center.  
Victor in CT : 4/19/2017 2:08 pm : link
Wouldn't John Taveres look nice on Broadway? And as an added bonus it would make the Fishsticks fans insane. Ah, but to dream.
I enjoyed him punching Pacioretty last night  
Greg from LI : 4/19/2017 2:09 pm : link
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RE: Valiquette said Price embellished the Nash interference.  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 6:06 pm : link
In comment 13433993 BrettNYG10 said:
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Suck it, pj.


Well that settles it.

Nightmare start for the Leafs  
MetsAreBack : 4/19/2017 7:26 pm : link

but they do get one back on their 2nd shot of the game.
What a play by Wilson  
tony stg : 4/19/2017 7:39 pm : link
To save a goal. Whew.
Yikes  
MetsAreBack : 4/19/2017 7:54 pm : link
Caps came to play tonight.
Toronto  
JayBinQueens : 4/19/2017 8:53 pm : link
Looked good the last half of the 2nd.

Washington takes two penalties in the last 5 seconds to give Toronto a 5-3 to start the 3rd
Never a doubt...  
tony stg : 4/19/2017 9:56 pm : link
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The Leafs inability to  
Stufftherun : 4/19/2017 10:18 pm : link
capitalize with the two man advantage was the difference. Leafs still kept coming though ...helluva fun team to watch.
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2017 10:24 pm : link
Minnesota just took their first lead of this series... 17 minutes into Game 4.

I wonder what it is about Bruce Boudreau - the guy can coach teams to 100+ point regular seasons in his sleep, and then the playoffs happen...
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arcarsenal : 4/19/2017 10:39 pm : link
Brian Elliott completely fell apart. Already yanked. CGY is donezo.
FYI  
bigbluehoya : 4/20/2017 8:11 am : link
I believe Game 6 is officially at 8pm on Sat.

Boomer just said it and I see it on ESPN as well.
Flipping between all the other series and the Leafs/Caps  
Andy in Halifax : 4/20/2017 10:00 am : link
It's crazy how loose those two teams play. I don't see either of them going far unless they improve defensively.
Caps can win both ways  
MetsAreBack : 4/20/2017 10:18 am : link

Leafs I don't think anyone thinks they'll go too far this year, especially with their D injuries - but they've proven they're going to be a force in coming years. Future is bright.

I'm surprised how poorly Holtby has played. He's still young and of course if he plays us in ECF (lips to God's ears we make ECF), undoubtedly would be lights out... but Holtby doesn't get enough shit for his postseason track record to date, IMO.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2017 10:22 am : link
Isn't Holtby the all-time leader in post-season save percentage?
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arcarsenal : 4/20/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13435238 BrettNYG10 said:
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Isn't Holtby the all-time leader in post-season save percentage?


Yeah, and a career 1.97 GAA in the playoffs.

He does't get shit about his postseason track record because it would be undeserved.
even in that game, Toronto made the Caps sweat for it  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2017 10:28 am : link
Right now, if you had to pick Caps or Pens, who would pick the Caps? I wouldn't.
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MetsAreBack : 4/20/2017 10:31 am : link
In comment 13435244 arcarsenal said:
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Isn't Holtby the all-time leader in post-season save percentage?



Yeah, and a career 1.97 GAA in the playoffs.

He does't get shit about his postseason track record because it would be undeserved.



Oh fine... but he was badly outplayed in the Penguins series last year and has looked awfully average in this year's series.

so there.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2017 10:38 am : link
I agree with you about this year, but a .923 save % against the Pens isn't bad. I think you're being a bit harsh.
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arcarsenal : 4/20/2017 10:41 am : link
His sv% against PIT last year was just about right on the nose of his career number - I didn't think he was particularly bad. Murray wasn't really any better than he was in that series.

Holtby hasnt been great in this series vs. TOR - but he's also faced more shots than any other goaltender in these playoffs which is probably worth noting.
Maybe my view is tainted  
MetsAreBack : 4/20/2017 10:46 am : link
that we've beaten him in a game 7 three times.

Also 6-11 career playoff OT record. Maybe its a bit like us where we just don't generate scoring chances in our OTs and Holtby's been unlucky, but he's yet to prove he can play at his best when the pressure is tense and everything is on the line.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2017 10:47 am : link
Future Ranger Shattenkirk has apparently been terrible for the Caps. Good Ranger move to sign a dman just as he's declining (kidding).

Blysma and Murray were fired in Buffalo.
You guys want me  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 10:57 am : link
to start the game 5 thread?

LOL
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2017 10:57 am : link
In comment 13435303 pjcas18 said:
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to start the game 5 thread?

LOL


Do it, sissy.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:03 am : link
In comment 13435306 BrettNYG10 said:
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to start the game 5 thread?

LOL



Do it, sissy.


I would, but I prefer to avoid confrontation, rather than incite it. Plus someone would start a Rangers fan thread and then I'd be left posting to myself.
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Greg from LI : 4/20/2017 11:05 am : link
In comment 13435288 BrettNYG10 said:
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Blysma and Murray were fired in Buffalo.


If Eichel really told Buffalo that he wouldn't extend if Bylsma was retained, then that was that, as they say.
Apparently there's speculation Drury is a candidate for the BUF GM job  
BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2017 11:12 am : link
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RE: You guys want me  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13435303 pjcas18 said:
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to start the game 5 thread?

LOL


Only if I'm allowed to start complaining about the refs before I even have lunch.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:14 am : link
In comment 13435350 arcarsenal said:
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to start the game 5 thread?

LOL



Only if I'm allowed to start complaining about the refs before I even have lunch.


LOL, I'm kind of surprised no one has complained about the refs post-game press conference.
Gallagher could skate over  
B in ALB : 4/20/2017 11:16 am : link
someone's neck and pj would find a way to justify it. Pathetic.
RE: Gallagher could skate over  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:19 am : link
In comment 13435357 B in ALB said:
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someone's neck and pj would find a way to justify it. Pathetic.


sandpaper.
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MetsAreBack : 4/20/2017 11:21 am : link
In comment 13435319 pjcas18 said:
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Plus someone would start a Rangers fan thread and then I'd be left posting to myself.



Arent you used to that by now? Admit it, this series is heaven for you - all those MTL posts everyone ignored throughout the regular season, now you post and its somewhat relevant to what we care about so we respond. You need this series to go 7 games. An Ottawa series would just be so boring for you.
And we'll start the Game 5 thread  
MetsAreBack : 4/20/2017 11:23 am : link

When the ginger is good and ready, not a moment before.

Ginger starting a game thread with the fans tonight in a sea of red sounds like a good omen to me too. The only thing that can fuck up this momentum is an AV (forwards) lineup change versus what worked in g4.
RE: even in that game, Toronto made the Caps sweat for it  
tony stg : 4/20/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13435252 Greg from LI said:
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Right now, if you had to pick Caps or Pens, who would pick the Caps? I wouldn't.

Some of the sweating was a result of, in my opinion, a very bad no goal call on a phantom goalie interference. But even with that the Caps need to toughen up and not let that matter. They DID do that to a degree last night. I'll take any kind of win, though. Caps played with urgency last night instead of being scared.

Good luck to you Rangers fans tonight.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13435365 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13435319 pjcas18 said:


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Plus someone would start a Rangers fan thread and then I'd be left posting to myself.




Arent you used to that by now? Admit it, this series is heaven for you - all those MTL posts everyone ignored throughout the regular season, now you post and its somewhat relevant to what we care about so we respond. You need this series to go 7 games. An Ottawa series would just be so boring for you.


Guilty. If the Rangers lose I'm afraid there will be a lightly viewed playoffs thread that I'll be posting to myself mostly on. Sort of like the World Hockey Juniors thread that had pganut, me and one or two other people. Mostly pganut and me conversing back and forth.

but I don't want the Rangers to win, so I'll live with it, but I won't like it.
Invitation for pjcas for Opening night Oct 2017to see:  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2017 11:31 am : link
at Center for the New York Rangers, #91, John Tavares!!!!!!!

All 7 Islander fans have a collective stroke :-)
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arcarsenal : 4/20/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13435378 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13435319 pjcas18 said:


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Plus someone would start a Rangers fan thread and then I'd be left posting to myself.




Arent you used to that by now? Admit it, this series is heaven for you - all those MTL posts everyone ignored throughout the regular season, now you post and its somewhat relevant to what we care about so we respond. You need this series to go 7 games. An Ottawa series would just be so boring for you.



Guilty. If the Rangers lose I'm afraid there will be a lightly viewed playoffs thread that I'll be posting to myself mostly on. Sort of like the World Hockey Juniors thread that had pganut, me and one or two other people. Mostly pganut and me conversing back and forth.

but I don't want the Rangers to win, so I'll live with it, but I won't like it.


You miss Spock. Admit it.
RE: RE: even in that game, Toronto made the Caps sweat for it  
B in ALB : 4/20/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13435374 tony stg said:
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Right now, if you had to pick Caps or Pens, who would pick the Caps? I wouldn't.


Some of the sweating was a result of, in my opinion, a very bad no goal call on a phantom goalie interference. But even with that the Caps need to toughen up and not let that matter. They DID do that to a degree last night. I'll take any kind of win, though. Caps played with urgency last night instead of being scared.

Good luck to you Rangers fans tonight.


Looked to me that the Toronto goalie made contact with Backstrom on purpose. He actually wrapped his arm around Backstrom's leg at one point. These goalie interference calls are more often than not called incorrectly by the three blind mice.
Pumped today fellas  
Giants in 07 : 4/20/2017 11:40 am : link
Hope this team sees the opportunity they have in front of them.

Ottawa up 3-1
Washington going at least 6 with the Pens upcoming if they get by Toronto

I really wish we won Game 2.
when they finally wise up and dump AV  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2017 11:42 am : link
I wouldn't mind seeing what Vally could do if he has any desire to coach. From BSB:

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Not that this is specific to the PP, but Steve Valiquette had an amazing analysis of Price’s tendency to drop to his right knee first which leaves the 5-hole and other specific areas susceptible to dirty dirty goals. Game 4 showed 2 5-hole goals and if the Rangers are sticking to the behind the net style PP, it may be beneficial to try more wrap arounds or just crash the net from different angles to throw it low.
Emelin is back for game 5  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:53 am : link
lol, I can't wait for the comment on how disgusting, dirty, and embarrassing Emelin is.

Without a doubt he's the most borderline player on the Canadiens, a team with Andrew Shaw, Brendan Gallagher, and Steve Ott.
and he's replacing Davidson, who has played well  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2017 11:56 am : link
Clode and AV really are pretty much the same guy, aren't they?
RE: and he's replacing Davidson, who has played well  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13435465 Greg from LI said:
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Clode and AV really are pretty much the same guy, aren't they?


Yes, I've been telling you guys for years they are.
Valiquette is an excellent analyst.  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2017 12:00 pm : link
He's grown into that role really quickly and does a great job. His segments are must-watch for me.
Speaking of World Hockey Tournaments  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 12:17 pm : link
today at 1:30 ET USA vs the Swiss in the U18 quarterfinals.

The US went undefeated in the play-in round.

Good place to catch some draft eligible players. A guy in Switzerland is supposed to be top 5 (Nico Hischier)
RE: Speaking of World Hockey Tournaments  
Stufftherun : 4/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13435521 pjcas18 said:
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today at 1:30 ET USA vs the Swiss in the U18 quarterfinals.

The US went undefeated in the play-in round.

Good place to catch some draft eligible players. A guy in Switzerland is supposed to be top 5 (Nico Hischier)


US Team has a lot of speed and it's only accentuated by the large ice surfaces.
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