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redbeard : 1:42 pm
Time to nut the fuck up. That showing on Sunday was a freaking abomination and I hope the boys are disgusted enough that they come out with a fire in their belly.

Will the squad show they got something between their legs? Will we score a fucking goal on home fucking ice in the fucking playoffs? Who the fuck knows, but this is the season tonight because I don't see this squad coming back from down 3-1

No word on line-ups changes yet. It's nut up or shut up time, gents.

Let's fucking go
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Great game by the boys tonight  
redbeard : 10:03 pm : link
Also it is refreshing to see Nasher playing like a bull in a Chinashop
AV did all the right things tonight.  
BrettNYG10 : 10:04 pm : link
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Proud of our boys tonight  
Giants in 07 : 10:05 pm : link
They played really really well.

Crowd was into it as wel.

Show them why we're the best road team in the league on Thursday
Fuck yes  
djm : 10:08 pm : link
Great job all around from the beard to the posts to the entire team. And a shout out to my boy Rick Nash. He wants it.
Hear, hear to the beard!  
Stufftherun : 10:09 pm : link
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Greg from LI : 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13433635 arcarsenal said:
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You guys are all going to get yelled at for talking about the officiating so much....


They let everything go in third, fine. I don't know how the hell you call that "hook" on Stepan in that case
Vesey is showing serious potential  
djm : 10:16 pm : link
..kinda reminds me of kovalov. Tough to knock him off the puck. He started off the reg season like gang busters then hit the wall that many rookies hit. Struggled a bit but over the last couple of weeks of the season showed signs of reemergence. Here we are in the playoffs and he's shining. There might be more downs next year but vesey looks like a legit player.
Yup, forgot  
Stufftherun : 10:20 pm : link
about that donkey kick by Ott on Zuccie as he's going to the bench. That's about as cheap and dangerous as it gets. No defending that one pj.
Yup  
Davisian : 10:23 pm : link

RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 10:28 pm : link
In comment 13433652 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13433635 arcarsenal said:


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You guys are all going to get yelled at for talking about the officiating so much....



They let everything go in third, fine. I don't know how the hell you call that "hook" on Stepan in that case


Yeah, that was ridiculous. Looked like they just randomly decided they should call a penalty.
If you don't think Brendan Smith was a beast,  
bigbluehoya : 10:29 pm : link
Rewatch. And then rewatch again.

Must have played 10+ in the third. With at least 3 partners.
We're those refs from Montreal?  
jgambrosio : 10:43 pm : link
Holy shit.
Why the fuck  
bigbluehoya : 10:48 pm : link
Are we talking about the refs after a huge home W where we did everything that was needed and closed well??
Wooo Hoooo  
gidiefor : Mod : 11:09 pm : link
!!!!
Refs sucked  
MetsAreBack : 11:12 pm : link
but fuck the refs, we won anyway. Hopefully the league feels bad and tilts it a bit in our favor Thursday. Sacre-Bleu.
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chopperhatch : 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13433667 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13433652 Greg from LI said:


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In comment 13433635 arcarsenal said:


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You guys are all going to get yelled at for talking about the officiating so much....



They let everything go in third, fine. I don't know how the hell you call that "hook" on Stepan in that case



Yeah, that was ridiculous. Looked like they just randomly decided they should call a penalty.


Conversely, Biron elbows Brendan Smith right in front of the ref and no call. He wasnt even screened. That, the fact that they let Radulov get away with the cross check in the Rangers end, his slash on Smith (blatant over the wrist) and then the pick on Girardi by Lehkonen were all easy calls that the refs decided not to call.
Any chance of a suspension for Ott  
Ron Johnson : 11:23 pm : link
After that bullshit???

Have to hand it to zuc, he's taken as many hits as anyone and he still frustrates the shit out of them
RE: Any chance of a suspension for Ott  
Stufftherun : 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13433701 Ron Johnson said:
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After that bullshit???

Have to hand it to zuc, he's taken as many hits as anyone and he still frustrates the shit out of them


I don't know how the league can turn a blind eye to that? Then again ...
I'd rather Ott played for them  
MetsAreBack : 11:27 pm : link
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Stripes are gonna stripes  
Davisian : 11:35 pm : link
Fuck em.

It goes both ways, my theory is they remember they have a whistle at the oddest of fucking times.


Bottom line is, W.

RE: Any chance of a suspension for Ott  
dpinzow : 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13433701 Ron Johnson said:
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After that bullshit???

Have to hand it to zuc, he's taken as many hits as anyone and he still frustrates the shit out of them


He kicked out at Zucc and the linesman. About the most dangerous move you can make (skate blades can be more dangerous than sticks). Should be a suspension...

In the Edmonton-San Jose game Leon Draisaitl speared a San Jose player in the nether regions and got a match penalty
Oof..Rough night for Edmonton  
Greg from LI : 11:44 pm : link
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Beard  
B in ALB : 11:47 pm : link
Great job stepping up in an unbelievably vital game. Well done my man.

Despite the Montreal scumbaggery throughout, the squad kept their composure with flying colors.

What a dirty, ugly, trashy, cheap shotting, hateful team the Canadiens team is. Constant garbage from these assholes. Disgusting.
RE: Oof..Rough night for Edmonton  
dpinzow : 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13433718 Greg from LI said:
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There could be lots of fights in the 3rd period
That is how you respond!  
Kyle in NY : 11:54 pm : link
We finally played our best possible lineup, up front at least, and the team controlled play and generated a lot of chances. Even in the 3rd with the lead, they didn't go into a shell. They continued to push the issue, defended the blue line well, didn't make Hank do it all. Also really like that we relied on Smith more, Holden got just over 14 minutes, Smith over 22. With that lineup and deployment, we've got a real chance.

Things were bleak on Sunday, but credit to the players and the coach, the made adjustments to turn things around.
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Kyle in NY : 11:56 pm : link
Also, I'm such a big Nash fan at this point. First two playoffs were rough, but he's shown up for the last three and is playing his ass off right now. Going to the net, making things happen. He's been a difference maker.
Ott is sonofabitch who has something coming to him  
Greg from LI : 4/19/2017 12:10 am : link
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Fuck him  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2017 12:16 am : link
and hope he doesn't get suspended either. We're better off when he's on the ice, doing whatever it is he does. Useless player
Congrats on the win.  
tony stg : 4/19/2017 5:20 am : link
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Hurting today  
bigbluehoya : 4/19/2017 7:11 am : link
But that first cup of coffee at the office is gonna be delicious.

Yup, tanked. The Stellas were flowing.

Good atmosphere at the garden last night. At the first intermission I was worried the crowd might clam up in the second after surrendering the lead late in the first, but they came out and played with some great jump to start the second and got everyone buzzing again.

Fucking great job by the beard.
You guys are funny with the congratulations to the thread starter  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 7:37 am : link
Pointless but funny.

To win this thing we better get Miller or Kreider going. We ain't winning this with goals by fast and Glass in the long run.

pj you're team is a bunch of cunts.
On the road so can't post much  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 8:02 am : link
but:

Good game, good win for the Rangers.

1. 2nd period was possibly the most dominant period by any team this playoffs

2. Refs were fine, sure they missed some stuff, but it was both ways. I don't care if people complain about the refs anymore. I was wrong to criticize anyone for it. My apologies. I just thought it was ironic since everyone calls the Canadiens fans whiny and I couldn't find a better definition for the fans on here. But I heard it from all my Bruins fan friends on Monday night. I guess every fan base does it, so not sure why anyone singles out Montreal. they're no worse than anyone else. but whatever, keep complaining, especially in a win. I don't care.

And the Nash goalie interference call was textbook. It would be hard to find a more obvious goalie interference call. And some of you said "I can see waving off the goal, but the penalty is BS" so then you're claiming the contact was incidental? Ok, LOL. If Hank got bowled over like that I'm sure there would be no comment.

worst call was missing the too many men, it shouldn't have been a goal because of it, but reality is the Rangers had 6 men on the ice too. The linesmen whose job it is to keep track of the players was entangled with Radulov and Skjei at the blue line. So it's at least explainable how/why it happened, but I also agree the 4th ref (the 2nd linesman) should be removed from the ice.

3. Gallagher is a hell of a player, after Price and Weber possibly Montreal's most important player. The fact he's in every Rangers defenseman head is important. When you watch them go into the corner with Gallagher in pursuit or close most won't simply try and make the normal play, they'll slow play it, so either they can get a hit on gallagher or avoid one. I've been there, any time a player gets you to alter your game it's a win for that player.

On this topic, I'm kind of glad Montreal is getting this reputation (among Rangers fans at least) I don't find their play dirty or cheap, at least not one-way and forever Montreal was "just" a finesse team.

And this whole series has been without Montreal's dirtiest player Alexei Emelin.

I like they're getting "dirty" though the 4th line was better without Ott and holy hell King is so f-ing slow. I would like to see McCarron, Mitchell and Brian Flynn with Ott and King in the press box.

4. I hope Ott gets suspended, but he didn't make contact with anyone. So not sure why the rioting on here.

5. Lastly, that Weber bullet of the post late in the 3rd was maybe as hard as shot as I've seen in an hockey game. ever. I've never been afraid of anything on the ice, and I've seen teammates careers ended by taking shots off the face (in beer league hockey you need reconstructive surgery you retire - and I've seen it happen more than few times), but I'm not sure I'd want to be anywhere near the net when Weber shoots.

6. and really lastly, I've read so many fans on here hoping for/predicting Nash to be traded this off-season. He is by far the best Rangers forward, even at his age. Maybe not always a stat sheet guy anymore, but he's such a heady player with a sniper shot and almost un-matched versatility. Not a ton of players can play first line quality minutes with responsible defense, PP and PK. Nash can do all of them and do them well. If he has a flaw it's not shooting enough, but I think that of a lot of players, fans always do. I don't think the fans have any impact on what a FO does and I think the Rangers recognize Nash's value, but I'd love to see him traded just to spite their fans.
'I don't find their play dirty or cheap'...  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 8:06 am : link
You're kidding yourself.
RE: 'I don't find their play dirty or cheap'...  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 8:15 am : link
In comment 13433825 Torrag said:
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You're kidding yourself.


That or you and other Rangers fans watch the game as a Rangers fan and see things one way, which is understandable.

Here is an example:

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These refs are awful
NYerInMA : 4/18/2017 9:42 pm : link : reply
Now Smith gets hit with a high stick and is bleeding, play on.


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Cross check to the mouth
Giants in 07 : 4/18/2017 9:42 pm : link : reply
Play on

Pish posh


whatever that even means.

so the truth is neither of those posters actually saw the play, since it was neither a high stick or a cross check that stunned Smith.

reality is when they showed the replay, Smith got hit with Byron's shoulder on contact that Smith initiated. Byron had position in front of the net and Smith skated into Byron. that's not a penalty in any hockey league, from pee-wees to the California penal.

but I'm not going to sink into a call vs call with anyone. I thought the refs were fine. Once again, not the determining factor in the outcome, but sure they missed some stuff and they will every single game. But like I said previously I was wrong to suggest anyone should stop complaining about the refs.
RE: On the road so can't post much  
Mark C : 4/19/2017 8:17 am : link
In comment 13433818 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
but:

Good game, good win for the Rangers.

1. 2nd period was possibly the most dominant period by any team this playoffs

2. Refs were fine, sure they missed some stuff, but it was both ways. I don't care if people complain about the refs anymore. I was wrong to criticize anyone for it. My apologies. I just thought it was ironic since everyone calls the Canadiens fans whiny and I couldn't find a better definition for the fans on here. But I heard it from all my Bruins fan friends on Monday night. I guess every fan base does it, so not sure why anyone singles out Montreal. they're no worse than anyone else. but whatever, keep complaining, especially in a win. I don't care.

And the Nash goalie interference call was textbook. It would be hard to find a more obvious goalie interference call. And some of you said "I can see waving off the goal, but the penalty is BS" so then you're claiming the contact was incidental? Ok, LOL. If Hank got bowled over like that I'm sure there would be no comment.

worst call was missing the too many men, it shouldn't have been a goal because of it, but reality is the Rangers had 6 men on the ice too. The linesmen whose job it is to keep track of the players was entangled with Radulov and Skjei at the blue line. So it's at least explainable how/why it happened, but I also agree the 4th ref (the 2nd linesman) should be removed from the ice.

3. Gallagher is a hell of a player, after Price and Weber possibly Montreal's most important player. The fact he's in every Rangers defenseman head is important. When you watch them go into the corner with Gallagher in pursuit or close most won't simply try and make the normal play, they'll slow play it, so either they can get a hit on gallagher or avoid one. I've been there, any time a player gets you to alter your game it's a win for that player.

On this topic, I'm kind of glad Montreal is getting this reputation (among Rangers fans at least) I don't find their play dirty or cheap, at least not one-way and forever Montreal was "just" a finesse team.

And this whole series has been without Montreal's dirtiest player Alexei Emelin.

I like they're getting "dirty" though the 4th line was better without Ott and holy hell King is so f-ing slow. I would like to see McCarron, Mitchell and Brian Flynn with Ott and King in the press box.

4. I hope Ott gets suspended, but he didn't make contact with anyone. So not sure why the rioting on here.

5. Lastly, that Weber bullet of the post late in the 3rd was maybe as hard as shot as I've seen in an hockey game. ever. I've never been afraid of anything on the ice, and I've seen teammates careers ended by taking shots off the face (in beer league hockey you need reconstructive surgery you retire - and I've seen it happen more than few times), but I'm not sure I'd want to be anywhere near the net when Weber shoots.

6. and really lastly, I've read so many fans on here hoping for/predicting Nash to be traded this off-season. He is by far the best Rangers forward, even at his age. Maybe not always a stat sheet guy anymore, but he's such a heady player with a sniper shot and almost un-matched versatility. Not a ton of players can play first line quality minutes with responsible defense, PP and PK. Nash can do all of them and do them well. If he has a flaw it's not shooting enough, but I think that of a lot of players, fans always do. I don't think the fans have any impact on what a FO does and I think the Rangers recognize Nash's value, but I'd love to see him traded just to spite their fans.


You should be embarrassed to be a fan of that team after that display of petty thuggery/cowardice, and you embarrass yourself with your justifications of it.
You're still kidding yourself....  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 8:18 am : link
...but fans of cunty teams have to or what are they left with?
RE: RE: On the road so can't post much  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13433835 Mark C said:
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In comment 13433818 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


but:

Good game, good win for the Rangers.

1. 2nd period was possibly the most dominant period by any team this playoffs

2. Refs were fine, sure they missed some stuff, but it was both ways. I don't care if people complain about the refs anymore. I was wrong to criticize anyone for it. My apologies. I just thought it was ironic since everyone calls the Canadiens fans whiny and I couldn't find a better definition for the fans on here. But I heard it from all my Bruins fan friends on Monday night. I guess every fan base does it, so not sure why anyone singles out Montreal. they're no worse than anyone else. but whatever, keep complaining, especially in a win. I don't care.

And the Nash goalie interference call was textbook. It would be hard to find a more obvious goalie interference call. And some of you said "I can see waving off the goal, but the penalty is BS" so then you're claiming the contact was incidental? Ok, LOL. If Hank got bowled over like that I'm sure there would be no comment.

worst call was missing the too many men, it shouldn't have been a goal because of it, but reality is the Rangers had 6 men on the ice too. The linesmen whose job it is to keep track of the players was entangled with Radulov and Skjei at the blue line. So it's at least explainable how/why it happened, but I also agree the 4th ref (the 2nd linesman) should be removed from the ice.

3. Gallagher is a hell of a player, after Price and Weber possibly Montreal's most important player. The fact he's in every Rangers defenseman head is important. When you watch them go into the corner with Gallagher in pursuit or close most won't simply try and make the normal play, they'll slow play it, so either they can get a hit on gallagher or avoid one. I've been there, any time a player gets you to alter your game it's a win for that player.

On this topic, I'm kind of glad Montreal is getting this reputation (among Rangers fans at least) I don't find their play dirty or cheap, at least not one-way and forever Montreal was "just" a finesse team.

And this whole series has been without Montreal's dirtiest player Alexei Emelin.

I like they're getting "dirty" though the 4th line was better without Ott and holy hell King is so f-ing slow. I would like to see McCarron, Mitchell and Brian Flynn with Ott and King in the press box.

4. I hope Ott gets suspended, but he didn't make contact with anyone. So not sure why the rioting on here.

5. Lastly, that Weber bullet of the post late in the 3rd was maybe as hard as shot as I've seen in an hockey game. ever. I've never been afraid of anything on the ice, and I've seen teammates careers ended by taking shots off the face (in beer league hockey you need reconstructive surgery you retire - and I've seen it happen more than few times), but I'm not sure I'd want to be anywhere near the net when Weber shoots.

6. and really lastly, I've read so many fans on here hoping for/predicting Nash to be traded this off-season. He is by far the best Rangers forward, even at his age. Maybe not always a stat sheet guy anymore, but he's such a heady player with a sniper shot and almost un-matched versatility. Not a ton of players can play first line quality minutes with responsible defense, PP and PK. Nash can do all of them and do them well. If he has a flaw it's not shooting enough, but I think that of a lot of players, fans always do. I don't think the fans have any impact on what a FO does and I think the Rangers recognize Nash's value, but I'd love to see him traded just to spite their fans.



You should be embarrassed to be a fan of that team after that display of petty thuggery/cowardice, and you embarrass yourself with your justifications of it.


LOL, cowardice? a fan calling an NHL player a coward is about a gutless as going shirtless in a dome.

I have never and would never feel embarrassment about a team I like. I guess some of you take on a persona of your team. You know you feel like when they win you win. And I guess it helps with poor self esteem or emptiness in your life.

me, I realize I'm distanced and separate from the team and my well being or success/failure has nothing to do with what the team does.

They're grown men playing a sport. the day I let the actions or play of a group of grown men I have zero connection to effect me I become....like you I guess.

Thank god it will never happen.
RE: You're still kidding yourself....  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13433837 Torrag said:
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...but fans of cunty teams have to or what are they left with?


well that hurts. Your wittiness is about as strong as your hockey acumen.
'well that hurts'...  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 8:25 am : link
...the truth often does.
RE: 'well that hurts'...  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 8:26 am : link
In comment 13433844 Torrag said:
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...the truth often does.


I was being facetious, but I'm not surprised you struggled to recognize that.

I'm out, I expect better quality replies when I check back in, but sadly for all of you it won't be until this evening.
'I was being facetious'...  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 8:27 am : link
...you were subconsciously agreeing with the facts.
RE: RE: RE: On the road so can't post much  
MetsAreBack : 4/19/2017 8:27 am : link
In comment 13433842 pjcas18 said:
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LOL, cowardice? a fan calling an NHL player a coward is about a gutless as going shirtless in a dome.

I have never and would never feel embarrassment about a team I like. I guess some of you take on a persona of your team. You know you feel like when they win you win. And I guess it helps with poor self esteem or emptiness in your life.

me, I realize I'm distanced and separate from the team and my well being or success/failure has nothing to do with what the team does.

They're grown men playing a sport. the day I let the actions or play of a group of grown men I have zero connection to effect me I become....like you I guess.

Thank god it will never happen.


RE: Next moron that passes on an odd man rush should be flogged  
Victor in CT : 4/19/2017 8:38 am : link
In comment 13433567 schabadoo said:
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this. What the fuck is wrong with Kreider?
What the fuck is wrong with Kreider?  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 8:42 am : link
He's confused. He's an 180# ballerina in a 250# power forwards body.
Pj ...  
Stufftherun : 4/19/2017 8:58 am : link
honestly, what kind of "grown" man consciously/intentionally places his elbows on the top of the boards to push himself up to do a donkey kick with his skate blades flailing toward another player?

You predictably defended his act by saying he didn't make contact with anyone but since you're playing a dime store psychologist, what exactly was going through his mind? Have you ever witnessed such an act at the NHL level? Who even thinks of doing that?
RE: Pj ...  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 9:02 am : link
In comment 13433893 Stufftherun said:
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honestly, what kind of "grown" man consciously/intentionally places his elbows on the top of the boards to push himself up to do a donkey kick with his skate blades flailing toward another player?

You predictably defended his act by saying he didn't make contact with anyone but since you're playing a dime store psychologist, what exactly was going through his mind? Have you ever witnessed such an act at the NHL level? Who even thinks of doing that?


I didn't defend his act, I said I hope he's suspended. I cannot defend or explain his actions, nor do I care to, my comment about his not making contact spoke to the outrage. If he connected I can see being more outraged. My comment was not defending his action not even sure how that was your conclusion.

Now I'm really out.

Have a great day, feel good about the win, don't dwell on shit like missed penalties.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/19/2017 9:23 am : link
pj, I've always loved Nash, but thought trading Nash made sense under certain circumstances. I think there's a ton of stupidity about him around the fan base. Assuming you're not getting the return I'd demand, I'd like to see them sign him to an extension after next year. 3 year, $12-15M deal.
RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 4/19/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13433726 Kyle in NY said:
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Also, I'm such a big Nash fan at this point. First two playoffs were rough, but he's shown up for the last three and is playing his ass off right now. Going to the net, making things happen. He's been a difference maker.


Didn't Nash have a concussion during the year prior to the playoffs his first two years here? I think that goes underreported when talking about his playoff performance. He's otherwise been a good player in April/May.
pussy move by pj to instigate and not drop'em!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2017 9:34 am : link
You gotta see this through man! Don't just shake the gloves and skate backwards until the refs get in the middle...

:)
Big # 61 was on the ice  
Stufftherun : 4/19/2017 9:42 am : link
during the waning moments in fact I believe he threw his body in the way of a slapper from the point with less than a minute left. He's obviously a trusted and intelligent player, always appreciated his work ethic.
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