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I don't want to do it but here's space to discuss Eli

LCtheINTMachine : 4/18/2017 3:22 pm
This story is not going away and people are calling for suspensions. I wish it would go away but it's not and we may have to face the music.
Much ado.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 3:23 pm : link
Even if true, it was 2010, the statute of limitations kicked in..
Wasn't there a thread already on this?  
figgy2989 : 4/18/2017 3:23 pm : link
Is there's different story that came out?
Statute of limitations applies to court of law  
David in LA : 4/18/2017 3:24 pm : link
Not the NFL
Zzz  
Ryan in Albany : 4/18/2017 3:25 pm : link
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What people?  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2017 3:28 pm : link
Who the hell are you talking about?
RE: What people?  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13433000 Greg from LI said:
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Who the hell are you talking about?


Some in the media..As I said, much ado..A Court can't touch it and the NFL won't even give it a thought having occurred 7 years ago..
If it occurred, that is  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 3:33 pm : link
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You seem to be the only one concerned?  
River : 4/18/2017 3:37 pm : link
Why is that? He will be the QB for this team this year and probably a few more.
RE: Wasn't there a thread already on this?  
Devon : 4/18/2017 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13432984 figgy2989 said:
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Is there's different story that came out?


There's nothing new on this.

Honnestly, the only people who really care, despite the Post's best efforts, seem to be Patriot fans and Chris Christie.
I wish  
Semipro Lineman : 4/18/2017 3:42 pm : link
he was more like Odell and just hung around some nice celebrities instead of those shady sports collectible types
It was all on  
LCtheINTMachine : 4/18/2017 3:43 pm : link
Dan Patrick's radio show today
RE: It was all on  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/18/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13433041 LCtheINTMachine said:
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Dan Patrick's radio show today


Talk about relevant and "everybody".

And huge fail at the post before yours.
Suspensions despite zero court case outcomes,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/18/2017 3:47 pm : link
zero admitting of guilt, and no league investigation? People are going to say dumb stuff regardless of facts or evidence, so why let it bother us?
The only question I have  
LCtheINTMachine : 4/18/2017 3:48 pm : link
is whether Steiner is dirty. That guy seems like he's running a racket.
Steiner is one of the most respected certifiers  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 4:04 pm : link
in the industry..If he's dirty, then they all are..
Completely blown out of proportion  
BillT : 4/18/2017 4:11 pm : link
There is nothing there except an attorney trying to gin up his case. Eli's side of this and his explanation is perfectly reasonable.
When you've lost Dan Patrick, you've lost Middle America.  
Klaatu : 4/18/2017 4:13 pm : link
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it's sweep it under the rug  
fkap : 4/18/2017 4:30 pm : link
if a player on your team does it, rip him to shreds if he plays for another team.

And, yes, media will do as media does.

But, if you want to discuss Eli, NO, he will NOT end up in the hall of fame. close, but no cigar. he's only in serious consideration by BBIers because he's a Giant. on any other team, his biggest fans would be saying close, but not quite there.
RE: Completely blown out of proportion  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13433082 BillT said:
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There is nothing there except an attorney trying to gin up his case. Eli's side of this and his explanation is perfectly reasonable.


Cliff notes on Eli's "side of this?"
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
Giantology : 4/18/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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if a player on your team does it, rip him to shreds if he plays for another team.

And, yes, media will do as media does.

But, if you want to discuss Eli, NO, he will NOT end up in the hall of fame. close, but no cigar. he's only in serious consideration by BBIers because he's a Giant. on any other team, his biggest fans would be saying close, but not quite there.


Wrong, Eli will absolutely get in the HoF. The guy will likely finish in the all-time Top 5 in the top passing stat categories. He will have the 2nd longest games started streak, and 2 SB trophies and MVPs. That's more than enough to get him in.
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
Big Blue '56 : 4/18/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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if a player on your team does it, rip him to shreds if he plays for another team.

And, yes, media will do as media does.

But, if you want to discuss Eli, NO, he will NOT end up in the hall of fame. close, but no cigar. he's only in serious consideration by BBIers because he's a Giant. on any other team, his biggest fans would be saying close, but not quite there.


You couldn't be more wrong..Two-time SB MVP, ironman, will wind up with top 5-7 stats all-time and not because he Bettis-ed it either..Two of NFL history's greatest ever playoff runs..He's an immortal lock. I'm just not certain WHEN..
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
River : 4/18/2017 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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if a player on your team does it, rip him to shreds if he plays for another team.

And, yes, media will do as media does.

But, if you want to discuss Eli, NO, he will NOT end up in the hall of fame. close, but no cigar. he's only in serious consideration by BBIers because he's a Giant. on any other team, his biggest fans would be saying close, but not quite there.


Seriously?
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
Semipro Lineman : 4/18/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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Would that be the rug in front of his plaque at the HOF
RE: RE: Completely blown out of proportion  
Devon : 4/18/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13433118 Big Blue '56 said:
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There is nothing there except an attorney trying to gin up his case. Eli's side of this and his explanation is perfectly reasonable.



Cliff notes on Eli's "side of this?"


A Giants.com mod apparently had some scoop that he just wanted what was, at least technically and legally, game worn stuff to actually look more game worn (scuffed, etc) because, mostly due to the quantity used, it looked too "clean" and that usually pisses people off.
Skiba's emails to the plaintiff are the damning ones.  
bceagle05 : 4/18/2017 4:46 pm : link
Something about giving away the "BS ones" because Eli wanted the real stuff. Maybe Eli will have a fall guy on the equipment staff who'll say he made decisions without consulting Eli first. The ol' Deflategate rationalization.
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
micky : 4/18/2017 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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Why would they involve Erie Acorsi?
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Semipro Lineman : 4/18/2017 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13433234 micky said:
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In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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Why would they involve Erie Acorsi? [/quote]

Nice
RE: You seem to be the only one concerned?  
barens : 4/18/2017 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13433028 River said:
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Why is that? He will be the QB for this team this year and probably a few more.


There's been many mentions by the media that Eli may get suspended for 1 game, and it's in defenderdawgs pinned thread in one of his articles.

I don't know why some people get their panty's in a bunch over someone bringing up a concern that's been talked about in the media.
Oh, the horror!  
JohnF : 4/18/2017 6:03 pm : link
The Hall of Fame is so squeeky clean!

1) Eddie DeBartolo Jr. (In the HOF)

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Many NFL team owners are hated for one reason or another but Eddie DeBartolo Jr. gave fans and the league good reason to dislike him after an extortion scandal in 1998. The San Francisco 49ers owner, along with former Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards, got into a load of trouble involving extortion and failing to report a felony related to their attempt at getting a river boat casino license.


2) Paul Hornung jr. (In the HOF)

Oh, he bet on NFL games, and got suspended (along with Alex Karras), after they got caught.

"Detrimental to the League":Gambling and the Governance of Professional Football, 1946-1963 (pdf)

3) Joe Namath (In the HOF)



(Associating with gamblers, or kissing Suzy Kobler...hmmm, not sure what's worst)

4) Michael Irvin (In the HOF)

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We really don't care about Irvin's drug issues, we care more about his "stabbing a teammate in the neck with a pair of scissors" issues. That transgression occurred in Cowboys training camp, roughly a month before the 1998 season. That whole thing stemmed from an argument over which Cowboy was more suited for a haircut, Irvin or incoming guard Everett McIver. While McIver was already in the chair mid-cut, Irvin attempted to evict him by shouting "Seniority!" angrily. He yelled it three more times before screaming "Punk get the fuck out of my chair!" link



5) Oh, and we have the following who have a real chance of getting in the HOF

Bret Favre (Cell Phone pics)
Ray Lewis ("I don't know nothin!")
Tom Brady ("Trashing my cell phone means NOTHING!)
and so on.

Yep, Eli needs to get BETTER at being nasty, that seems to the the ticket for the HOF!! Uniforms are so minor league!
RE: RE: You seem to be the only one concerned?  
River : 4/18/2017 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13433257 barens said:
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In comment 13433028 River said:


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Why is that? He will be the QB for this team this year and probably a few more.



There's been many mentions by the media that Eli may get suspended for 1 game, and it's in defenderdawgs pinned thread in one of his articles.

I don't know why some people get their panty's in a bunch over someone bringing up a concern that's been talked about in the media.

By the media? Or the League?

Nothing against this in his morals clause. Only those in parts of patriots country care, or the mighty Dan Patrick?
Don't forget  
River : 4/18/2017 6:29 pm : link
this the Walter Payton man of the year last year(How is that for a NFL PR nightmare). Also the destruction of Eli's Ironman record? No way a suspension for this, maybe a fine at most. The other side still has to explain that Eli knowingly committed fraud for profit. Again cellphone text talk can be spin in a hundred different directions something lawyers will do.. Until a league source says suspension, its just talk to sell paper.
RE: it's sweep it under the rug  
JCin332 : 4/19/2017 6:11 am : link
In comment 13433117 fkap said:
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if a player on your team does it, rip him to shreds if he plays for another team.

And, yes, media will do as media does.

But, if you want to discuss Eli, NO, he will NOT end up in the hall of fame. close, but no cigar. he's only in serious consideration by BBIers because he's a Giant. on any other team, his biggest fans would be saying close, but not quite there.


Please go away you're so predictable...
No.  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 6:15 am : link
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One.  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 6:15 am : link
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Cares.  
Torrag : 4/19/2017 6:16 am : link
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Evidence,  
oldog : 4/19/2017 1:20 pm : link
often means different things, when its context is appreciated. The Eli context is 13 or 14 years of an exemplary record, football income far beyond the dreams of avarice, and a statement that apparently meant, get me some game worn gear that looks game worn enough that the possessor can imagine the bumps and bruises. The statement on its face is quite readily explainable, with no real evidence of fraudulent intent whatsoever. And yet, yes, I have heard the boring, purveyors of sport talk radio, prattling on incessantly, with their typically indolent and facile opinions, and pronouncing their hyperbolic sentences, as if they had even an iota of an idea what they are talking about. Before pronouncing someone guilty of serious fraud, and pronouncing sentence, it is a legal principle of fundamental importance that the accused person has the right to be heard, and to have the facts known before any judgment is made, let alone sentence pronounced. Let's set a higher standard on BBI.
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