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Aaron Hernandez commits suicide in Prison

BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/19/2017 6:33 am
Boston Globe just reported it. I can't seem to get a link to it.
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Heard on kay show  
Tuckrule : 4/19/2017 5:39 pm : link
Since he was appealing the Odin lloyd murder and died he now is presumed innocent therefore his remaining assets go to his daughter and his fianc.

Could this be the reason why he killed himself? Can someone clarify this info please.
Good riddance  
OC2.0 : 4/19/2017 5:49 pm : link
Fk him. Stupid fking wanna be gangster pissed away his life over it
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David in LA : 4/19/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13434616 Deej said:
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The second least appropriate name for a Crayola marker.


Dare I ask what the least appropriate name is?
He caught passes from  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/19/2017 5:59 pm : link
perhaps the greatest NFL QB of all time in Tom Brady, and despite the shitshow pro career, he also caught passes from one of the greatest college QBs of all time in Tim Tebow.

He's had an opportunity, at least professionally to be amongst some of the best influences in the world; you could argue no one would've asked for more in that regard. The whole thing has been awful from the start. Anyone with the rage he had inside him is clearly mentally ill (and note, this is not to say he isn't responsible for his actions). It would've been so good for so many if he could've found his way.
RE: Heard on kay show  
MOOPS : 4/19/2017 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13434626 Tuckrule said:
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Since he was appealing the Odin lloyd murder and died he now is presumed innocent therefore his remaining assets go to his daughter and his fianc.

Could this be the reason why he killed himself? Can someone clarify this info please.


He's appealing. He's not presumed innocent until a judge overturns his conviction.
At the end of the day  
djstat : 4/19/2017 6:15 pm : link
The Patriots gave him a chance. Despite the rumblings and rumors, he had no convictions. They believed they could work with him. He produced. They cut him immediately when he was arrested. They didn't wait to let it go through the courts, they cut ties. They are not responsible the same way any company is not responsible for an employees outside actions.

He was convicted in a court of law. He was a murderer. He was a piece of garbage. That said, I feel for his daughter. That is the tragedy.

While he had a big win in court, its possible he was out of money and would no longer be able to fight his conviction. Possibly guilt? The theory that he realized he killed Lloyd for nothing? Possible. Or maybe just coming to grips he was 27 years old and was in prison for life after he was a millionaire living the good life.

Time in prison changes a lot of people and mentally weak people struggle. Say what you want about him, he was mentally weak. No coping skills, sociopath etc.

It's called abatement ab initio  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2017 6:17 pm : link
meaning "from the beginning". In other words his status reverts to what it was before any trial took place (aka innocent).

The premise is if the defendant is not alive to defend themselves any conviction must be overturned/vacated.

Only a handful of states have this and it's probably the right thing to do per rule of the law (innocent until proven guilty), but very disrespectful to victims families.

Massachusetts has some infamous cases where convictions wee overturned ab initio. Including the head of the Boston diocese who was convicted of raping or molesting dozens of children. Ironically killed in the same prison as Hernandez.

And just in case it wasn't covered in the thread...many people are questioning the "suicide".

RE: It's called abatement ab initio  
Vanzetti : 4/19/2017 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13434684 pjcas18 said:
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meaning "from the beginning". In other words his status reverts to what it was before any trial took place (aka innocent).

The premise is if the defendant is not alive to defend themselves any conviction must be overturned/vacated.

Only a handful of states have this and it's probably the right thing to do per rule of the law (innocent until proven guilty), but very disrespectful to victims families.

Massachusetts has some infamous cases where convictions wee overturned ab initio. Including the head of the Boston diocese who was convicted of raping or molesting dozens of children. Ironically killed in the same prison as Hernandez.

And just in case it wasn't covered in the thread...many people are questioning the "suicide".


Thanks PJ. Will this protect his assets?
RE: RE: It's called abatement ab initio  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2017 8:53 am : link
In comment 13435040 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 13434684 pjcas18 said:


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meaning "from the beginning". In other words his status reverts to what it was before any trial took place (aka innocent).

The premise is if the defendant is not alive to defend themselves any conviction must be overturned/vacated.

Only a handful of states have this and it's probably the right thing to do per rule of the law (innocent until proven guilty), but very disrespectful to victims families.

Massachusetts has some infamous cases where convictions wee overturned ab initio. Including the head of the Boston diocese who was convicted of raping or molesting dozens of children. Ironically killed in the same prison as Hernandez.

And just in case it wasn't covered in the thread...many people are questioning the "suicide".




Thanks PJ. Will this protect his assets?


I don't know, maybe one of the attorneys like Dune or Deej (? I think he's an attorney) can comment.

OJ was found not guilty, but then still lose a wrongful death civil suit to the Goldman family for something like $30M. So no idea how this protects his money. But many people have said it.
Maybe he misunderstood Brady's last text  
BigBlue in Keys : 4/20/2017 9:16 am : link
When Tom said "Hoping your hanging in there man".
RE: RE: RE: What is a  
Greg from LI : 4/20/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13434638 David in LA said:
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Dare I ask what the least appropriate name is?


Presidential Orange
Thought I'd bump this based on recent developments  
WideRight : 4/26/2017 4:15 pm : link
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Who is Kyle Kennedy?
oo, I lost track of this thread  
Deej : 4/26/2017 4:25 pm : link
and I was asked questions.

pj: I dont believe it will protect his assets. Llyod's estate can still sue AH's estate for damages, I believe. Where it hurts Lloyd's estate is that normally, once you're convicted of a crime, you cannot claim in the subsequent civil case that you didnt do it (note: some states dont allow this use of a conviction in a civil case). On the theory that you had the incentive to fight it and were convicted at a higher burden of proof.

David: The least appropriate Crayola was:


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