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What type of players do the Giants prefer with the 1st pick?

Archer : 4/19/2017 8:17 pm
Can we predict who the Giants will draft based upon past performance?

Since 2007 the Giants have drafted (10) players in the first round.
There are (4) defensive backs, (2) receivers, (2) offensive linemen, (1) back, and (1) defensive lineman.The Giants drafted (7) skill position players and (3) linemen.

I think that the position is not as important than perceived need.
With the exception of Prince Amukamara, all of the picks fulfilled a significant need. In post draft interviews the Giants mantra was that
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" the player selected was the best player available who satisfied a need. The need matched the value".


With the exception of JPP, all of the draft picks came from bigtime football programs (if Syracuse can be considered as a bigtime program). Miami leads the way with (2) players (Shockey makes 3). None of the picks are from the West Coast. The Giants prefer players from the ACC, SEC, and Big Ten.

With the exception of Aaron Ross (25) all of the draft picks were young (20-21). Of the (10) picks (8) were early entries.

With the possible exception of Nicks, the first-round picks were clean and had no off the field issues. It helps if the player was a team captain.

The length of arms is not a reason to disqualify a player; see Amukamara, and Pugh. However, the Giants do prefer faster athletic players.

Bringing in players does not mean that the Giants will draft them. Jerry Reese in talking about Hakeem Nicks said;
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Q: Did you have him (Nicks) in for a workout or a visit?
A: No, we saw enough of him. We really didnít need to do anything else with him. People think it is a smoke screen when you bring guys in. We really donít play those games. When we bring guys in there is a reason for it. He really didnít have anything for us to bring him in for.


What can we take from the past drafts?
If the Giants conform to prior trends then, the player will likely be; a clean young 20-21 underclassman, from a bigtime program, most likely from the ACC, SEC, or the Big Ten. The player will fulfill a significant need and should be fast and athletic.

Njoku, Barrnett, Watson,Trubisky, Harris, Ramzcyk, Mahomes, Peppers, McDowell, Watt, are players who could be available at 23 and fit the Giants preferred mold.

These are not players that I think that the Giants should draft, these are the types of players that the Giants seem to prefer. I would eliminate the QB's as I am not convinced that a QB is a need. That would leave (7).
Bringing in guys doesn't mean that they won't draft them  
Milton : 4/19/2017 8:21 pm : link
It just means there is a reason for bringing them in and I doubt the reason is to tell them they aren't going to draft them.
I think it is clear that the Giants want more pass rushers  
robbieballs2003 : 4/19/2017 8:51 pm : link
Whether it is at DE, DT, or LB. That doesn't mean the pick will come from those positions and we might even be able to rule out DT because they seem to want a bigger body there now to stop the run first but the value just seems to be there in the first. Reddick, Davis, Bowser, and Watt all bring great athleticism and toughness to the LB position where they can get after the QB. The same can be said for a handful of DEs.
Man cover guys  
est1986 : 4/19/2017 8:57 pm : link
Blockers, Pass rushers and Playmakers at WR.
Reddick  
Archer : 4/19/2017 9:00 pm : link
Reddick has a couple of things working against him. He played at Temple and he is a Senior. Davis is a Senior, Bowser a Senior from Houston.

I like all of those players but the Giants have traditionally drafted early entry young players from major programs.

Good work Archer  
mrvax : 4/19/2017 9:02 pm : link
I never bought the Giant's company line (1st round), "We took the BPA."

Bullshit. Sometimes they do and sometimes they take for need. Just look at the last 10 drafts.

However, BPA at a position of need seems to sum it up very well.
RE: Good work Archer  
blueblood : 4/19/2017 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13434887 mrvax said:
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I never bought the Giant's company line (1st round), "We took the BPA."

Bullshit. Sometimes they do and sometimes they take for need. Just look at the last 10 drafts.

However, BPA at a position of need seems to sum it up very well.


I think fans get this wrong all the time.. Best Player Available is based on the GIANTS draft board and no one elses..

And it still boggles my mind that people cannot seem to understand that best player available and need can often match up and in all honesty can be easily seen.. but fans simply dont seem to want to accept that the Giants grade in ROWS and not columns top to bottom..

Yout could very easily have several players grouped together with the same grade

Let use NFL.com for an example..

Myles Garrett 7.6 grade in a tier all by himself
Solomon Thomas, Fournette and Allen all get a 6.8 grade
this continues with a few player grouped together with similar grades..
Malik Hooker 6.7
Jamal Adams 6.6
Now at 6.5 Trubisky, Lattimore, Howard and Cook

When you get to 6.0 there are NINE players with the same grade..

The point is you could have in your draft SEVERAL players with a similar grade... and in that space if you had a WR and a DE with the same grade.. the Giants would probably lean to the DE because that fills a hole more than a WR with the same grade...

Fans sit there with there top to bottom list.. and when player B gets taken before Player A.. they scream about best player available.. but thats now how the team puts their board together..
And in answer the OP  
blueblood : 4/19/2017 9:55 pm : link
The Giants seen to favor DE's, WR's (or playmakers), CB's, and Left Tackle types.. They havent needed a QB in years.. not suprisingly these are the most expensive positions in football and when you can lock up a rookie for 5 years at a low salary its a huge plus
I'm starting to think  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/19/2017 9:57 pm : link
Jarrad Davis or Ty Bowseer. Unless someone like Jonathan Allen or Malik Hooker or Christian McCaffrey slips to #23.
Archer...  
M.S. : 4/20/2017 5:02 am : link
...really, really nice analysis! Very interesting pattern which -- if it doesn't play out to script this coming Draft -- it could well predict what the next 4 or 5 Drafts may bring in Round One!
RE: And in answer the OP  
chuckydee9 : 4/20/2017 7:58 am : link
In comment 13434965 blueblood said:
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The Giants seen to favor DE's, WR's (or playmakers), CB's, and Left Tackle types.. They havent needed a QB in years.. not suprisingly these are the most expensive positions in football and when you can lock up a rookie for 5 years at a low salary its a huge plus


They've drafted 1 DE and only 2 OL.. I think the only conclusion is they prefer WR and CB over lineman..
They were pretty much on the younger side of the spectrum  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/20/2017 9:11 am : link
Most are barely 20 years old.
I start by looking for players who aren't blind in one eye.  
Heisenberg : 4/20/2017 9:12 am : link
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premium posistions get priority  
JonC : 4/20/2017 9:17 am : link
QB, DE, WR, CB, LT ... and if none are available it opens up, but they often prefer explosive athletes and measureables with a big upside (Wilson, Randle, etc).
Great stuff!!  
GuzzaBlue : 4/20/2017 9:26 am : link
My sleeper pick is Peppers. Even though he does not have a specific position, I could see them fall in love with his athleticism, youth and versatility. I wouldn't prefer it, but I could see it. He's the jack of all trades and master of none IMO.

Actually if he could bulk up a bit, I could see him playing a hybrid safety/LB role and becoming very useful.
Thanks Archer,  
GMen23 : 4/20/2017 9:50 am : link
Great recent historical analysis. Reese has shown his love for for the Big 3 College Conferences.
BPA  
MotownGIANTS : 4/20/2017 9:57 am : link
in rds 1 ,2 and 3 ... there is no position we can not address even QB.

Now will QB have an immediate impact? No.

In Order:
LB(1), OL(2), DL(3), DB(4) & and RB(4) (if we dont get Blount)

In my ultimate scenrio the draft falls in our favor in rds 1 2 3 4 we trade 5/6/7 to get back into the 4

Njoku  
lugnut : 4/20/2017 10:36 am : link
fits the bill for young and crazy athletic. Just don't know how pressing the need is perceived, given we already have a new, promising TE and we signed Ellison to $18M.
good ones I hope  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2017 10:46 am : link
:-)
COUGHLIN is out of the mix...  
x meadowlander : 4/20/2017 11:10 am : link
...I don't know how much the HC influence has - but I always felt the WR picks were Tom's.
the first draft pick Coughlin was ever responsilble for was?  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2017 11:22 am : link
Tony Baselli, OT - Southern Cal
the giants favour  
msh : 4/20/2017 2:14 pm : link
what they refer to as skill positions DE,CB,WR,OT possibly TE but they havent drafted a 1st round TE since shockey with 5th rounders like boss and undrafted free agents like ballard they seam to be leaning towards those first 4 positions more thou i really would like a guy like howard or njoku or if they wait till round 2 shaheen a threat TE would really boost the offence

with the decline of the high selection of running backs mostly thanx to reese drafting jacobs in the 4th and bradshaw in the 6th rounds his first years and can maybe add perkins in the 5th to that list also thou i believe if mccaffery and or fournette somehow fell to 23 they may be considered at that pick but i assume both will go top 10-15 anyway
Too convoluted...  
Torrag : 4/20/2017 3:08 pm : link
...they prefer clean off the field, highly athletic prospects.
RE: Too convoluted...  
Milton : 4/20/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13435923 Torrag said:
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...they prefer clean off the field, highly athletic prospects.
They don't need to be athletic, just clean shaven. That's all that matters.
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