NFT: Game 5: Rangers at Habs gamethread

In comment 13436752 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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Zibby's GW was luck, but his assist was one of the best individual plays I'v ever seen a Ranger make in the postseason. I know Gallagher is trying to get people to commit penalties, but he needs his ass whipped.

Wait, how was his goal luck? He drove to the net after his teammate put the puck on net and then finished the rebound. That sounds more like fundamental hockey then luck to me.

...life is good.

In comment 13436759 chopperhatch said:

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Wait, how was his goal luck? He drove to the net after his teammate put the puck on net and then finished the rebound. That sounds more like fundamental hockey then luck to me.

Puck deflected off the defenseman into a perfect pass... I'm not diminishing what Zibby did.

In comment 13436762 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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In comment 13436759 chopperhatch said: Quote: Wait, how was his goal luck? He drove to the net after his teammate put the puck on net and then finished the rebound. That sounds more like fundamental hockey then luck to me. Puck deflected off the defenseman into a perfect pass... I'm not diminishing what Zibby did.

I dont consider that luck. You go towards the net, good things happen. Yes, I get that Kreider was prob trying to shoot, all but whiffed to where it deflected to where Zibby got the chance to score. But that is what happens when you put the puck on net. Its not like he threw it on the boards, took a funny bounce and went in while the goalie was asleep.

Whatever. Different strokes i guess

if it was lucky? The Rangers out played the Habs all OT. Habs were dead in the water and gassed. How many times have the Rangers had shots go in off their own players this year, we finally got one back fuck the Habs. Lets get it Saturday.

In comment 13436766 Giantfootball025 said:

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if it was lucky? The Rangers out played the Habs all OT. Habs were dead in the water and gassed. How many times have the Rangers had shots go in off their own players this year, we finally got one back fuck the Habs. Lets get it Saturday.

THIS

Bunch of coaches coaching against the teams they got their first coaching gigs with.. Yeo vs. Minnesota.. McLellan vs. SJ.. AV against MTL.

Probably happens often with the way coaches get recycled, though.

In comment 13436742 bigbluehoya said:

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In comment 13436740 bigbluehoya said: Quote: But the stretch pass became available for about the first time all season, and the rangers were able to get over the blue line numerous times with speed. I'll take it. Should say all **series** Feels like all season

Absolutely, hoya, it seemed like we were watching the team we saw in October/November, center ice just opened up, the breakouts were there as were the forwards on Habs' blue line. Rangers were in a different gear.

In terms of Zib's gwg, I dunno how luck enters the conversation. I don't think Kreids was trying to shoot, he was trying to shovel across to Zib, and yes, there was a slight deflection. If anything, it slowed the cross ice down and I thought that might give Price the time to come across. Hell, if that is luck, then what was the OT game winner off Holden? And #22, jeez, coughs up another giveaway that for a moment looked like it might cost us; he corralled it back.

Thought the Captain was outstanding last night, and even his partner wasn't half bad. Skjei has stepped into the SCP like a five-year vet.

And if AV thought Buch couldn't handle the pace or the punishment, has he rethought that thought?

is there should now be a market for Girardi this offseason (if the Rangers are inclined to shop him). He's only owed $10 mil over his final 3 years (cap hit unfortunately 5.5m, but plenty of teams out there with no intention to get close to the cap), and will have a LTC (no longer the anchor NMC). We might have to eat some salary, but I don't see why we'd have to eat dead cap space for 6 years at this point. He's holding his own on the top line, and proving he's at least worth a 2nd/3rd pair value (which is ~$3 mil/year).

Duguay and Vali were echoing what smart posters like MAB have been saying for weeks last night after the game - that they cannot stop our 4-line attack, with wave after wave coming at them. Especially later in games, our better conditioning and speed is paying off.

Of course much will be made of swapping Glass for Buchnevich - the truth is we lost a tough game in OT in g2 and won two very close games in g4 and g5... and our top 6 forwards have finally pulled their heads from their asses -- which has a lot more to do with the improved results than putting #15 upstairs... but the playoffs are a game of inches and we're putting ourselves in better position to get game-breaking chances now than we were earlier in the series.

Close it out Saturday. I'm sick of the Bell Centre.

after the way thye dominated and didn't score, especially after Kreider's whiff.

Huge win.

Nash has been outstanding as has McDonagh

with no PP goals and several slashes, crosschecks and spears going uncalled is a minor miracle.

Get an early goal on Saturday and the Habs might just melt down

reminiscent of the '70s Flyers. Very chippy.

Not only did your team lose, you were spotted looking so distraught in that silly jacket!



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and it's a beautiful thing to see.

I thought besides Nash, Vesey was our best skater last night. He was poised, controlled the puck, and kept pushing play towards Price. Buchnevich has slid in to the lineup and has shown that the game isn't too fast for him (that dangle was pretty). Skeiji has been absolutely phenomenal with Smith. What a coming out year. Fast and Lindberg...what more can you say. Is there any other forward combo you want out there protecting the lead?

Let's take this series at the Garden boys.

That jacket is a riot.

Girardi had another solid game last night. He's playing a more aggressive hitting game than I've seen from him in years, and playing a smarter positional game too. Not getting caught up-ice on ill-advised pinches. Not turning the puck over as soon as it touches his stick - he leaves that to Staal and Holden.

But losing one of Fast or Lindberg is going to suck.

In comment 13436993 bigbluehoya said:

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But losing one of Fast or Lindberg is going to suck.

Why you gotta bring me down, man?

He's having a very good series and he's a valuable guy, but he's still a fourth line/PK guy. Lindberg has shown more.

Great game in Edmonton last night. The lone first round series in the West that has been exciting. Got close to 2OT but Desharnais buried the game winner with a little over a minute remaining.

Lot of talent on that Edmonton team. They are fun to watch. Connor McDavid is so good. He plays with an edge too. Very physical for a kid who just turned 20.

The West really has no one I am particularly afraid of, though. This would be a great year to get back to the Finals. But obviously we are a long, long ways away from there still.

It was an exciting game indeed, but though I tried to watch the whole thing I just didn't make it. Woke up to an infomercial on the TV at 4 AM.

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He looks like John Calipari's cousin

Guy looks like he should be hosting the Price is Right.

foam finger. Perfect.

In comment 13437008 arcarsenal said:

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Great game in Edmonton last night. The lone first round series in the West that has been exciting. Got close to 2OT but Desharnais buried the game winner with a little over a minute remaining. Lot of talent on that Edmonton team. They are fun to watch. Connor McDavid is so good. He plays with an edge too. Very physical for a kid who just turned 20. The West really has no one I am particularly afraid of, though. This would be a great year to get back to the Finals. But obviously we are a long, long ways away from there still.

Didn't see the game but San Jose got just one power play in 80 minutes of hockey. I find that hard to believe. Lots of complaining from NYR fans about the refs in our series (I know not you), but again another reminder that refereeing is simply lousy league wide.

good shot of Smith with the right cross to Shaw, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And wasn't it Shaw who chopped BS's wrist with a slash Tuesday night? Smith turned in a really gutty performance, inspiring. Maybe it was Radulov with the slash, want to see that guy pummeled, shitwhaled to the boards on a charge that is not called.

jacket, Calipari cousin, or Cousin Vinny, lol

In comment 13437086 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 13437008 arcarsenal said: Quote: Great game in Edmonton last night. The lone first round series in the West that has been exciting. Got close to 2OT but Desharnais buried the game winner with a little over a minute remaining. Lot of talent on that Edmonton team. They are fun to watch. Connor McDavid is so good. He plays with an edge too. Very physical for a kid who just turned 20. The West really has no one I am particularly afraid of, though. This would be a great year to get back to the Finals. But obviously we are a long, long ways away from there still. Didn't see the game but San Jose got just one power play in 80 minutes of hockey. I find that hard to believe. Lots of complaining from NYR fans about the refs in our series (I know not you), but again another reminder that refereeing is simply lousy league wide.

I missed the 1st period and about half of the 2nd - so I'm not sure if they missed anything in that span. Nothing too egregious that went uncalled from what I saw, but I wasn't 100% focused on the game like I would be for one of ours.

Agree that the officiating is lousy in general. Consistency is always my biggest gripe. If they want to make calls, fine.. if they want to let the players play, fine.. but do it both ways. Don't let one team get away with assaulting the other and then call some BS hook where the stick barely even makes contact.

I'd prefer that they let the players play more often than not in the playoffs - not the place to be calling borderline penalties. I do think stuff that ventures into dirty territory should be called before it gets out of hand. Montreal has done a lot of it but we're not innocent, either. Zuccarello got away with a bad slash in the 1st period last night. Miller got called for his slash on Gallagher which was just a dumb penalty he took out of frustration. Stuff like that should be called. But otherwise, let them go.

It didn't end up costing them, but that was just plain stupid. He got pissed off and took a big whack at Gallagher out of frustration. Brain dead penalty.

In my playoff hockey state of emotional disrepair, I was convinced for a minute that he had just cost them the series.

They fought off the early onslaught and dominated the OT, Zibby and Kreider are starting to play good hockey, McDonaugh was fabulous along with Skjei. Smith has been very good, and Girardi was fine tonight, laid out a couple of big hits. Lindberg and fast are playing great hockey. Hayes and Miller are the players we need to get going now, I think Zibby and Kreider are on now. Wrap it up Saturday Night.

and give some props to The Beard. Well done my friend. Two huge wins. Don't take your foot off their neck. Finish them.

4th line still needs to play more. Lindberg and Grabs under 11 min at even strength, Fast right around 13.

Lindberg was on the ice for 14 corsi-for events and zero corsi-against. It's an extreme outlier/aberration, but it's consistent with his really solid play throughout the series.

Once it was 3-1. There was nothing egregious that went uncalled. I'm happy to see some new teams emerging in the west. Was absolutely sick of the Chicago/LA dominance

Tomorrow night is the game this team always seems to fucking lose.

I think we're finally going to come through in this spot and end the series, though. I try not to put too much stock in each individual game - but it feels like we're hitting our stride right now and I expect another really strong effort tomorrow.

#LFG

In comment 13437231 Kyle in NY said:

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Once it was 3-1. There was nothing egregious that went uncalled. I'm happy to see some new teams emerging in the west. Was absolutely sick of the Chicago/LA dominance

Agree - it's weird seeing teams like EDM/TOR in playoff games with these young superstars in the making but I am really enjoying it.

It's very strange to look at a Western Conference with CHI/LA both out of the mix before April has even ended. But it's about time. This is good for the league.

I don't think it'll be long before we see a Toronto/Edmonton final. Those kids are as good as advertised. Also happy to see Nashville finally get through Chicago. That's a really underrated hockey town and a team with a lot of players I like. I think they're the favorites in the west now. They were better than the typical 8 seed

have to be considered the two favorites in the west now (and not just because, mathematically, they already advanced so...) I'm assuming EDM and STL advance in that statement.

Anaheim is a little underrated - aren't they something like 14-0-3 over the last month+ now?

for hockey, wish it was on Friday so I coulda stayed & seen the Oiler game.

Their defense is so deep. Fowler emerges as their top guy this season but then is hurt for the first round and it's no problem. They just plug and play. Got me thinking, why couldn't we have plucked one of those defensemen from them for Hagelin two seasons ago? Brutal trade, but this is mostly a happy thread so I won't harp on it

In comment 13437261 MetsAreBack said:

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have to be considered the two favorites in the west now (and not just because, mathematically, they already advanced so...) I'm assuming EDM and STL advance in that statement. Anaheim is a little underrated - aren't they something like 14-0-3 over the last month+ now?

Anaheim is the team I think is going to get out of the West - but if they run into a hot Nashville team, they'll certainly have to earn it.

Those would certainly be the two "favorites" in my opinion as well.

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OFFICIAL: #Blueshirts have agreed to terms with free agent defenseman Alexei Bereglazov.


Bereglazov led KHL D-men 24 years old or younger in assists and tied for first among KHL d-men 24 years old or younger in points this season.

Sounds like a decent prospect
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:He's a big guy who excels defensively in his own zone. Not a puck-mover, but likes to chip in offensively from time to time and has looked to do so more often this season. Good skater for his size. Biggest question mark is his defense on the rush, particularly against quick forwards, but North American ice should help him there.

He's still just 22 so has plenty of time to iron out any creases. Not a sure thing by any means, but I can see him being a good depth option on the blue line with time."

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...both overseas and exploiting the 'college loophole'. Imagine where we'd be without Zuccarello, Hayes and Vesey?

a pretty solid prospect. Could be a factor next season on D

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