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Sad documentary on Victor Cruz

Montreal Man : 4/20/2017 2:46 pm
on Showtime Fast Zone ... whatever that is. I just stumbled on it.

Kind of goes through the emotional and physical pains he's been going through.

Just made me sad.
He's such a good kid  
dune69 : 4/20/2017 2:58 pm : link
I wish he could have had three or four more years at the height of his ability. Football is not very fair and can be very painful at this level.
A little perspective might be in order.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/20/2017 3:07 pm : link
VC overcame long odds to earn $28MM in his seven NFL seasons, plus substantial outside income and years in the limelight. While I wish his run had lasted longer, his story isn't a particularly sad one, by the cruel standards of college and pro football.
Didn' see the doc  
steve in ky : 4/20/2017 3:08 pm : link
and I'm sure it is sad and heartfelt but really Cruz is one guy that should view his football life as a charmed one. He easily could have easily have never even reached that brass ring. There are probably countless "Victor Cruz's" in the history of the NFL where things never break for them and they end up nothing more than a small blip on the leagues radar and never making any kind of mark on the NFL.

He achieved a ton, and made a small fortune in the process. I love the guy and sure it would have been great had he never gotten injured but he is one of the lucky ones regardless of how his career may have ended. He should be proud of what he has accomplished.
He won a superbowl and made  
Metnut : 4/20/2017 3:09 pm : link
a lot of money. Yea, it didn't end well, but he got to make it back to the field last year and caught some balls for a playoff team. He can look back on all of that years later and be happy.
Yeah, I would not describe his story as a sad one  
Milton : 4/20/2017 3:16 pm : link
But between him and OBJ, oh what might've been had he not torn his patella.
RE: Yeah, I would not describe his story as a sad one  
mrvax : 4/20/2017 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13435938 Milton said:
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But between him and OBJ, oh what might've been had he not torn his patella.


In 2013 he has 1000yds and 4 TDs. Extrapolation for 2014, he'd have had 900yds and 3 TDs. He was not the 2011 VC before his injury, IMO.
I can't feel sorry  
Doomster : 4/20/2017 3:46 pm : link
for someone who made that amount of money.......

Does anyone think he has a shot of catching on with another team?

We could probably..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2017 3:51 pm : link
no a whole miniseries on sad stories - just from the WR corps. You have Nicks get his career cut short due to a freak injury. Cruz never could make it back into form. Hixson was in on a play where he paralyzed a guy and had his own bad luck with knee injuries. We may never have seen the greatness of Ike Hilliard because of the dirty shot on him by Dawkins.

Then there's Plax - which I guess is a sad story on some levels - at least a cautionary one.
RE: Yeah, I would not describe his story as a sad one  
Brown Recluse : 4/20/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13435938 Milton said:
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But between him and OBJ, oh what might've been had he not torn his patella.


Thats what happens when you play receiver for the Giants.
RE: We could probably..  
Mr. Bungle : 4/20/2017 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13436007 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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no a whole miniseries on sad stories - just from the WR corps. You have Nicks get his career cut short due to a freak injury. Cruz never could make it back into form. Hixson was in on a play where he paralyzed a guy and had his own bad luck with knee injuries. We may never have seen the greatness of Ike Hilliard because of the dirty shot on him by Dawkins.

Then there's Plax - which I guess is a sad story on some levels - at least a cautionary one.

Steve Smith.
mrvax: Round peg / square hole, to some extent.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/20/2017 3:54 pm : link
mrvax said:
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In 2013 he has 1000yds and 4 TDs. Extrapolation for 2014, he'd have had 900yds and 3 TDs. He was not the 2011 VC before his injury, IMO.
Cruz was at his best in the slot. He would never have repeated 2011 anyway (those 60-yard TDs require more than a little luck), but his role also changed with Manningham gone and Nicks hurt. If you could plug the 2012/2013 Cruz into the slot alongside Beckham and Marshall, I think he would thrive. He wouldn't replicate those gaudy 2011 numbers, but he'd be the right man for the job. As it is, I think Shepard will do well there too.
Yep..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2017 3:56 pm : link
forgot about Smith. His story was eerily similar to Nicks and Cruz.
This is also..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2017 3:57 pm : link
a good example of how elite players are quickly brought back to the pack when their physical advantages are lessened.
RE: RE: We could probably..  
AcidTest : 4/20/2017 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13436012 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 13436007 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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no a whole miniseries on sad stories - just from the WR corps. You have Nicks get his career cut short due to a freak injury. Cruz never could make it back into form. Hixson was in on a play where he paralyzed a guy and had his own bad luck with knee injuries. We may never have seen the greatness of Ike Hilliard because of the dirty shot on him by Dawkins.

Then there's Plax - which I guess is a sad story on some levels - at least a cautionary one.


Steve Smith.


Brutally accurate.
RE: RE: Yeah, I would not describe his story as a sad one  
Milton : 4/20/2017 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13435944 mrvax said:
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In comment 13435938 Milton said:
Quote: But between him and OBJ, oh what might've been had he not torn his patella.

In 2013 he has 1000yds and 4 TDs. Extrapolation for 2014, he'd have had 900yds and 3 TDs. He was not the 2011 VC before his injury, IMO.
In 2013 he had nobody across from him. With OBJ drawing the doubles instead of him it would've been a very different scenario.
Guys, I get it  
Montreal Man : 4/20/2017 4:08 pm : link
And understand all your comments.

But watching him during this documentary, you gotta feel at the moment for the guy, however much money he made. It's not that the arc of his career made me sad, just watching him go through this as a person made me sad.
Victor Cruz will live in the hearts and minds of Giant fans everywhere  
JohnB : 4/20/2017 4:11 pm : link
He will never go hungry in this town, he is that well loved and that will never change.

Want a sad documentary subject? Do one on Tiki Barber. He had it all and throw it all away, the money, the fame, the goodwill of Giants and its fans. He went from a very high place to a has-been rather quickly. But that's New York for you. And now he is booed if he walks into Giant Stadium. Wow.
RE: mrvax: Round peg / square hole, to some extent.  
mrvax : 4/20/2017 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13436013 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Cruz was at his best in the slot. He would never have repeated 2011 anyway (those 60-yard TDs require more than a little luck), but his role also changed with Manningham gone and Nicks hurt. If you could plug the 2012/2013 Cruz into the slot alongside Beckham and Marshall, I think he would thrive. He wouldn't replicate those gaudy 2011 numbers, but he'd be the right man for the job. As it is, I think Shepard will do well there too.


Good point.
Don't want to derail thread but this made me think of the saddest  
steve in ky : 4/20/2017 4:12 pm : link
football documentary I can recall. I think it was called "The Irrelevant Giant" about John Tuggle. If you haven't seen it watch it if you get the chance.
RE: Victor Cruz will live in the hearts and minds of Giant fans everywhere  
mrvax : 4/20/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13436049 JohnB said:
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Want a sad documentary subject? Do one on Tiki Barber. He had it all and throw it all away, the money, the fame, the goodwill of Giants and its fans. He went from a very high place to a has-been rather quickly. But that's New York for you. And now he is booed if he walks into Giant Stadium. Wow.


Tiki's own decisions brought this upon himself. Big difference there. I would not boo him myself.
RE: Victor Cruz will live in the hearts and minds of Giant fans everywhere  
Milton : 4/20/2017 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13436049 JohnB said:
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He will never go hungry in this town, he is that well loved and that will never change.

Want a sad documentary subject? Do one on Tiki Barber. He had it all and throw it all away, the money, the fame, the goodwill of Giants and its fans. He went from a very high place to a has-been rather quickly. But that's New York for you. And now he is booed if he walks into Giant Stadium. Wow.
Well said on both points.
I found it  
steve in ky : 4/20/2017 4:20 pm : link
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The Irrelevant Giant - ( New Window )
And dont forget Tim Carter  
Taggart : 4/20/2017 4:25 pm : link
He went missing and ended up on the side of a milk container. The disappointment of not dominating the game eventhough he was sure he would must be excruciating.
The story is anything but sad  
B in ALB : 4/20/2017 4:28 pm : link
it's the way things go for football players.

But in this case, he was an absolute nobody who turned into a superstar and multi-multi millionaire.

I'd say his story is pretty incredible.
RE: I can't feel sorry  
Carson53 : 4/20/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13436003 Doomster said:
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for someone who made that amount of money.......

Does anyone think he has a shot of catching on with another team?
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On a one year deal, that's about all I can see.
If he doesn't play again, nothing to cry over.
He had a pretty decent career, all things considered.
Thank him for his contributions.
Victor should have a great career as an ambassador of the game  
WideRight : 4/20/2017 4:31 pm : link

The odds of him suceeding in the media are very high...
RE: I found it  
Carson53 : 4/20/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13436076 steve in ky said:
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. The Irrelevant Giant - ( New Window )


Parcells loved that guy, and you can't blame him!
You want sad, look up Marcus Dupree...  
Marine One : 4/20/2017 4:37 pm : link
...Victor Cruz, ahhh, no! The kid had a dream run with a bad roll, fought back valiantly and came up short! Never should wonder what if, he WAS the what if! He'll be fine, tons of contacts and media opps in the big town!
admintingly .... I did not watch the documentary yet but,  
short lease : 4/20/2017 6:05 pm : link
I am having a hard time figuring out what was in his story that would leave one sad. A free agent from a school not known for it's Football program becomes a bonafied star in the league. Inspirational? ... but sad? I have to watch it MM.
RE: Guys, I get it  
short lease : 4/20/2017 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13436038 Montreal Man said:
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And understand all your comments.

But watching him during this documentary, you gotta feel at the moment for the guy, however much money he made. It's not that the arc of his career made me sad, just watching him go through this as a person made me sad.


Sorry ... posted before I saw this post.
RE: I found it  
LS : 4/20/2017 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13436076 steve in ky said:
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. The Irrelevant Giant - ( New Window )


Now that's sad.
It's definitely a bummer  
djm : 4/20/2017 6:49 pm : link
But Cruz had himself one hell of a 3 year run. The guy owned the NFL and made a lot of money. Won a super bowl ring. Got hurt. Got hurt again. Battled and came back and played in another playoff game. That's the way to go out. If this is is at least Cruz went out on the football field. He had a great career here.
It's always sad to see a career cut short  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/20/2017 6:59 pm : link
But when he looks back, he pretty much got to experience a whole lifetime of an NFL player compressed into 5 years.

He started from nothing, got a shot, became a starter, became a star, won a championship, and got to cash in on a big contract. He did it all. The vast majority of NFL players can't say that at all.

RE: We could probably..  
SomeFan : 4/20/2017 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13436007 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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no a whole miniseries on sad stories - just from the WR corps. You have Nicks get his career cut short due to a freak injury. Cruz never could make it back into form. Hixson was in on a play where he paralyzed a guy and had his own bad luck with knee injuries. We may never have seen the greatness of Ike Hilliard because of the dirty shot on him by Dawkins.

Then there's Plax - which I guess is a sad story on some levels - at least a cautionary one.


Add Steve Smith and his bent knee
Add Mike Sherrard to the list  
jlukes : 4/20/2017 9:04 pm : link
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Is it just us?  
Montreal Man : 4/22/2017 11:27 am : link
Something in the water?

Have other teams historically been this unlucky with top notch receivers?

RE: RE: We could probably..  
Mr. Bungle : 4/22/2017 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13436555 SomeFan said:
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In comment 13436007 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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no a whole miniseries on sad stories - just from the WR corps. You have Nicks get his career cut short due to a freak injury. Cruz never could make it back into form. Hixson was in on a play where he paralyzed a guy and had his own bad luck with knee injuries. We may never have seen the greatness of Ike Hilliard because of the dirty shot on him by Dawkins.

Then there's Plax - which I guess is a sad story on some levels - at least a cautionary one.



Add Steve Smith and his bent knee

I already did.
Wish him the best with  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/22/2017 1:48 pm : link
whatever he ends up doing.
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