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Rueben Foster had a diluted urine sample at the combine.

robbieballs2003 : 4/20/2017 4:28 pm
That counts as a failed drug test and he will enter the substance program. He says he had food poisoning prior and was drinking a ton of water after which he attributes to the diluted sample.
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great player, but another potential issue  
TheMcThrill : 4/20/2017 4:30 pm : link
hopefully he'll still be taken early and it will push another good player to us.
I believe he is going to drop.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/20/2017 4:32 pm : link
Factor in the problem at Indy, the failed drug test, and the rotator cuff issue I don't see a team investing a high first in him.
RE: great player, but another potential issue  
Milton : 4/20/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13436094 TheMcThrill said:
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hopefully he'll still be taken early and it will push another good player to us.
Yup. We don't need him to go top ten, just top 20.
What a talent  
allstarjim : 4/20/2017 4:34 pm : link
But there's too much smoke. I'll be dropping him out of my 1st round mock or at least to the very end of it. If I'm the Giants, I don't want him after this.

The Cowboys pick players like this (Randy Gregory), the Giants don't make mistakes like this with 1st rounders.
Not too long ago  
chuckydee9 : 4/20/2017 4:37 pm : link
people said he was part of the group of defensive players that were just slightly below Myles Garrett... If the injury is not an issue I would take him over any of the OL player, defenitely over all the TEs.. he looks like a legit player on defense.. far better than any LB giants have on the team..
Fall right to 23  
Big Rick in FL : 4/20/2017 4:43 pm : link
Rueben! Big Blue will welcome you with open arms!
Another player for the Ravens to scoop up  
jeff57 : 4/20/2017 4:47 pm : link
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RE: What a talent  
Beer Man : 4/20/2017 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13436103 allstarjim said:
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But there's too much smoke. I'll be dropping him out of my 1st round mock or at least to the very end of it. If I'm the Giants, I don't want him after this.

The Cowboys pick players like this (Randy Gregory), the Giants don't make mistakes like this with 1st rounders.
Agree, don't see the Giants taking this kind of risk
This guys a headcase with a checkered history  
Torrag : 4/20/2017 4:57 pm : link
No way he's the pick at #23.
He will drop  
Amtoft : 4/20/2017 4:58 pm : link
and the Giants will pass and BBI will complain.
'and BBI will complain'...  
Torrag : 4/20/2017 5:00 pm : link
...not the intelligent posters.
Mostly, I think you guys are right.  
Ira : 4/20/2017 5:21 pm : link
But when I watch this guy play, he's incredible. He's not only a great athlete and tackler, he has great instincts. He's always around the ball. The videos I see of him show someone who's pretty close to Kuechly. At least, that's the way I see it. And his coach stands firmly behind him.
Even if you got dirty urine..  
est1986 : 4/20/2017 5:33 pm : link
How hard is it to pass a urine test..?
RE: What a talent  
short lease : 4/20/2017 5:58 pm : link
In comment 13436103 allstarjim said:
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But there's too much smoke. I'll be dropping him out of my 1st round mock or at least to the very end of it. If I'm the Giants, I don't want him after this.

The Cowboys pick players like this (Randy Gregory), the Giants don't make mistakes like this with 1st rounders.



I see what you did there ... "to much SMOKE."
RE: Even if you got dirty urine..  
chopperhatch : 4/20/2017 6:06 pm : link
In comment 13436191 est1986 said:
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How hard is it to pass a urine test..?


Huh? Even if you have someone give you clean piss, you have to get it up tolike 95 degrees while you are in the bathroom. I am pretty sure they have someone standing outside the door and its not like you can go in there witha backpack.

Not sure what youre hinting at.
RE: Fall right to 23  
One Man Thrill Ride : 4/20/2017 6:23 pm : link
In comment 13436112 Big Rick in FL said:
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Rueben! Big Blue will welcome you with open arms!


Reuben is a good player and one hell of sandwich.

Diluted sample coupled with an rotator cuff repair (!) ? Thrilly does not have an insider report in this case, but Reub is pretty clearly 0% on NYG radar.
RE: Fall right to 23  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/20/2017 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13436112 Big Rick in FL said:
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Rueben! Big Blue will welcome you with open arms!


Fuck it. Take him.
RE: Even if you got dirty urine..  
short lease : 4/20/2017 6:34 pm : link
In comment 13436191 est1986 said:
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How hard is it to pass a urine test..?


You would be surprised. I heard the questions got a lot harder in recent years.
I don't know how it works at the combine...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/20/2017 7:07 pm : link
but I know that probation officers have to observe the urine samples directly.

You know what's creepy? They're watching school kids take piss tests. I asked the kids in my school who are on probation what's the worst part and several said having the P.O. looking at their privates while they pee. I almost couldn't believe he would be watching them. Some of these kids are young enough I'm not sure they've even gone through puberty yet.

Anyway - this also could be the reason for the issue at the combine. Wonder if Foster is in the 5-6 blue-chippers Reese was talking about, or if he has dropped altogether out of the first row.
If he falls to 23  
Peppers : 4/20/2017 11:04 pm : link
we should draft him. He's a top 10 pick. It'd be a gift just like Tunsil was. We just have to have the balls to take the gamble.

RE: RE: Even if you got dirty urine..  
est1986 : 4/20/2017 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13436241 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13436191 est1986 said:


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How hard is it to pass a urine test..?



Huh? Even if you have someone give you clean piss, you have to get it up tolike 95 degrees while you are in the bathroom. I am pretty sure they have someone standing outside the door and its not like you can go in there witha backpack.

Not sure what youre hinting at.


Its easy chop, trust me, not like he didn't know he was about to piss, keep a small medicine bottle with clean urine close to your body, that will keep it warm enough and if they are by the door and not on your shoulder like a probation officer might be... But I was really thinking about some sort of supplement i always see, usually in a 'beverage' form that can help you disguise marijuana use in order to pass a urine test as well, detox type drinks...
RE: I don't know how it works at the combine...  
chopperhatch : 4/20/2017 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13436313 Dan in the Springs said:
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but I know that probation officers have to observe the urine samples directly.

You know what's creepy? They're watching school kids take piss tests. I asked the kids in my school who are on probation what's the worst part and several said having the P.O. looking at their privates while they pee. I almost couldn't believe he would be watching them. Some of these kids are young enough I'm not sure they've even gone through puberty yet.

Anyway - this also could be the reason for the issue at the combine. Wonder if Foster is in the 5-6 blue-chippers Reese was talking about, or if he has dropped altogether out of the first row.


I dont believe for a second that they stand there watching the kids piss. Im a grown man and I was put on probation as part of a plea (bar fight I was trying to break up that found me having to fight back and whatever) that I took to avoid hiring a lawyer and trial. My probation included piss tests for booze and drugs and they just walk you to a bathroon and stand outside. Obviously they dont let you go in with a bag on or a jacket with a bunch of pockets. The worst they do is stand outside the stall. They absolutely dont look at your genitals while you test.

They might if youre a felon and a drug abuser with a record. But they def dont stand next to you while you piss.
RE: RE: RE: Even if you got dirty urine..  
chopperhatch : 4/20/2017 11:21 pm : link
In comment 13436764 est1986 said:
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In comment 13436241 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 13436191 est1986 said:


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How hard is it to pass a urine test..?



Huh? Even if you have someone give you clean piss, you have to get it up tolike 95 degrees while you are in the bathroom. I am pretty sure they have someone standing outside the door and its not like you can go in there witha backpack.

Not sure what youre hinting at.



Its easy chop, trust me, not like he didn't know he was about to piss, keep a small medicine bottle with clean urine close to your body, that will keep it warm enough and if they are by the door and not on your shoulder like a probation officer might be... But I was really thinking about some sort of supplement i always see, usually in a 'beverage' form that can help you disguise marijuana use in order to pass a urine test as well, detox type drinks...


Lol, if you think ur body can radiate enough to warm a bottle of 3 oz of fluid to 95 degrees plus in the time it takes to take the test, you're nuts
RE: RE: I don't know how it works at the combine...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/20/2017 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13436769 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13436313 Dan in the Springs said:


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but I know that probation officers have to observe the urine samples directly.

You know what's creepy? They're watching school kids take piss tests. I asked the kids in my school who are on probation what's the worst part and several said having the P.O. looking at their privates while they pee. I almost couldn't believe he would be watching them. Some of these kids are young enough I'm not sure they've even gone through puberty yet.

Anyway - this also could be the reason for the issue at the combine. Wonder if Foster is in the 5-6 blue-chippers Reese was talking about, or if he has dropped altogether out of the first row.



I dont believe for a second that they stand there watching the kids piss. Im a grown man and I was put on probation as part of a plea (bar fight I was trying to break up that found me having to fight back and whatever) that I took to avoid hiring a lawyer and trial. My probation included piss tests for booze and drugs and they just walk you to a bathroon and stand outside. Obviously they dont let you go in with a bag on or a jacket with a bunch of pockets. The worst they do is stand outside the stall. They absolutely dont look at your genitals while you test.

They might if youre a felon and a drug abuser with a record. But they def dont stand next to you while you piss.


I'm not making this up - I work in an alternative school - we have many kids on probation and there are others who are just a step away. We just recently had this conversation (in the past couple of weeks) where we talked about consequences and why probation sucks. I had never heard that they were observed during the UA until then, but several kids told me that the guy who comes to collect their wiz watches them whip out their junk and urinate.

I just found it extremely creepy.
RE: RE: RE: I don't know how it works at the combine...  
chopperhatch : 4/20/2017 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13436773 Dan in the Springs said:
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In comment 13436769 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 13436313 Dan in the Springs said:


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but I know that probation officers have to observe the urine samples directly.

You know what's creepy? They're watching school kids take piss tests. I asked the kids in my school who are on probation what's the worst part and several said having the P.O. looking at their privates while they pee. I almost couldn't believe he would be watching them. Some of these kids are young enough I'm not sure they've even gone through puberty yet.

Anyway - this also could be the reason for the issue at the combine. Wonder if Foster is in the 5-6 blue-chippers Reese was talking about, or if he has dropped altogether out of the first row.



I dont believe for a second that they stand there watching the kids piss. Im a grown man and I was put on probation as part of a plea (bar fight I was trying to break up that found me having to fight back and whatever) that I took to avoid hiring a lawyer and trial. My probation included piss tests for booze and drugs and they just walk you to a bathroon and stand outside. Obviously they dont let you go in with a bag on or a jacket with a bunch of pockets. The worst they do is stand outside the stall. They absolutely dont look at your genitals while you test.

They might if youre a felon and a drug abuser with a record. But they def dont stand next to you while you piss.



I'm not making this up - I work in an alternative school - we have many kids on probation and there are others who are just a step away. We just recently had this conversation (in the past couple of weeks) where we talked about consequences and why probation sucks. I had never heard that they were observed during the UA until then, but several kids told me that the guy who comes to collect their wiz watches them whip out their junk and urinate.

I just found it extremely creepy.


Unless you deal with kids who committed felonies and were multiple offenders with controlled substances, that just doesnt make sense. Especially if they are minors. But i wouldnt rule it out if they were charged with felonies.

They dont watch people pee into cups who arent charged with serious crimes unless they were repeat offenders.

Either way, my point is it is not easy to piss clean if ur dirty. A "dilluted sample" is what that old school stuff Goldenseal does....it just yields an inconclusive result. Same with pissing thru fingers dipped in bleach. U dont test positive, but it shows you did something to hide whats in ur piss
I agree thast he's gonna drop, and if he's there at 23 we'll pass.  
yatqb : 4/20/2017 11:45 pm : link
Rotator cuff, lighter than you'd like, and this? C'mon. Grow up!
Watch  
Peppers : 4/21/2017 1:01 am : link
some of his games and watch his interviews. Foster has a little bit of that crazy in him that LT and the other great defensive players have.
Well, he's aggressive as all hell, but that's no good for a team if  
yatqb : 4/21/2017 1:47 am : link
he's either suspended or needs shoulder surgery and is out for 6 months.
Aww, come on. What's the worst that could happen?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/21/2017 5:39 am : link

Seriously, though - there's no way to know whether Foster will be the next Rolando McClain. I don't imagine the precedent helps him, from a "Hindu Theory" perspective. But NFL Scouting Directors get paid to assess individuals, not to predict reincarnations.

Foster has earned extra scrutiny, like Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon and many others. The team that drafts him will say, "We did our homework on the kid, and we're satisfied that blah, blah, blah..."
Not surprised...  
Matt G : 4/21/2017 8:10 am : link
Can't wait to hear the BS excuses from his dirtbag agent...
Clown show  
LCtheINTMachine : 4/21/2017 10:52 am : link
Suspend him for 8 games
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