Go Bulls! A Bulls series win could 1. Prompt the Celtics to look into Melo 2. Prompt the Bulls into thinking they are "close" and add Melo
-Lebron is ridiculous
- Francesa chimed in on KP (linked below)
- Bucks aren't beating the Cavs but talk about an interesting team headed in the right direction...
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have to remember we need a true center as well (which is a bigger issue than an additional scorer)
76ers will make a deal this summer we can get Hayward time is on our side ...
I also would prefer Smart too. I've soured on him but if in the very off chance he becomes a half decent 3 point shooter you have a very good player on your hands. On the flip side, rozier is a 6'1" combo guard, it's hard envisioning him as anything more than a 6th man. Smart at least can guard multiple questions (up to the 4 in some situations).
If you just call him a 2 and stick him in the corner, he's a 34.3% corner 3 shooter. Not very good but passable. With KP capable of taking the longer 3s that guards usually take, it is doable. But you'd lose Smart in transition D to some degree.
"I'd say the key to his development will probably be improving as a defensive rebounder," Pelton said. "His translated defensive rebound percentage is 16.9 percent, which is below average for a power forward (18.4 percent). But his high-percentage finishing, ability to shoot the FIBA 3 and solid block rate are all encouraging for the Celtics."
Yabo is going to replace soft Kelly O .....
Smart and AB makes up for Thomas defensive issues ... that is why both are going to stay
Sure but I think he'd be a decent addition to KP/Willy + our lotto pick. I'm not expecting superstar but he seems multi-skilled, has range etc. Seems like a pretty decent get (either one of them).
Yabo is going to replace soft Kelly O .....
Smart and AB makes up for Thomas defensive issues ... that is why both are going to stay
Bradley, Crowder, smart and horford haven't proven to make up for Thomas's issues...why now?
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
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The Celtics are very bullish on him. He's a strong, super-athletic big man who can stretch the floor and plays with both great energy and feel. He's a little undersized for his position, but the comparisons to Jae Crowder (or before the draft, Larry Johnson) seem apt.
I think I'd take his upside right now over that of Hernangomez or Brogdon."
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Willy, a year old, had "actual" per 36 stats of 16.0 points, 13.6 rebounds, and 2.6 assists. With 54% 2 point FG% (GY was 57% in a lesser league).
Sure but I think he'd be a decent addition to KP/Willy + our lotto pick. I'm not expecting superstar but he seems multi-skilled, has range etc. Seems like a pretty decent get (either one of them).
Oh, sure. I said I'd do him, Smart, and a #1. There was some talk of him being a guy who could play a Draymond like role. He seems too stocky for that. And in any event Draymond is kind of a unique player (and so much of what makes him great is between his ears).
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
Yes I am. Thomas isn't doing any favors in rebounding or boxing out.
And let's not forget we are still discussing the Celtics vs an 8 seed. If we being practical, how the hell do you matchup when facing Kyrie Lebron and love??
There's 0 proof you can win a playoff series with thomas getting 35-40 minutes a night. They're playing the worst playoff team in the NBA and...no dice. Rondo being out may flip the script but it doesn't prove that the C's aren't anything but pretenders as currently constructed.
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they more than make up for his defensive liabilities ....
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
Yes I am. Thomas isn't doing any favors in rebounding or boxing out.
And let's not forget we are still discussing the Celtics vs an 8 seed. If we being practical, how the hell do you matchup when facing Kyrie Lebron and love??
There's 0 proof you can win a playoff series with thomas getting 35-40 minutes a night. They're playing the worst playoff team in the NBA and...no dice. Rondo being out may flip the script but it doesn't prove that the C's aren't anything but pretenders as currently constructed.
Cs are doing just fine .... Keep IT where he is replace Amir Johnson with a defensive rebounding C and that there changes a lot ... our biggest weakness rebounding ... 2nd weakness is 2 punch to go with the #1 .... enter FA or trading the picks (the right deal no team gutting)...otherwise rebuild thru the draft as we are doing.
Big, good defender, can guard multiple positions, can hit the corner 3 when open, can finish at the rim.
I agree that a Frenchie/Smart backcourt could be fun.
Smart would also love being in NY, not that that matters at all.
His upside is probably a better KOQ which I wouldn't hate.
And they are adding the possible #1 pick in the draft on top of that.
The only thing missing, of course, (and it is, admittedly, a big thing) is a top flight, #1, bonafide star. I love IT, but his height prevents him from being that guy.
Anywho, getting back on topic: I still don't see why Boston would want to do a Melo trade. Does adding Melo have them beating Cleveland? No, most probably not.
Furthermore: what's the C's biggest weakness? Rebounding. Does Melo help with that? No... in fact, if they play Melo at the 4, a bad rebounding team just got worse.
The C's will continue to bind their time, and have the luxury of playing for both now and later (thanks to the Nets trade)... they should look to make a move if it's a good one, but I don't think they are greatly desiring Melo, even at a bargain price.
What are your contract projections. Obviously, only Harford and Crowder are under contract for 2018. I think they'll likely need to keep IT because what they otherwise lack is a guy who can make his own offense. I have to think that they need to move one of Bradley, Smart, or Crowder. It's a luxury to have all three of those defenders. Bradley is the best player among them but will cost the most. Crowder might be a guy you let go a season too early so you dont get caught with 2-3 seasons too many (i.e. I could see him being a guy who is only very good during his 4-5 prime seasons). Smart you may let walk if he demands too much.
But even at 110 million, it's not like they'll need more capspace. Brown, the Nets 2017 #1 and 2018 #1, Yabs, Zizic -- that's 15-20 million of insane talent to fill out the rotation.
So in summary: Yes, lots of money would need to be spent to keep everyone. But I dont think IT is where you save it. Unless maybe you get Fultz this year, but even then IT has lots of value.
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i know its milwaukee but if kidd and melo are still close i wonder if kidd could convince him to come?
parker and their first for melo? take on a bad contract?
Aren't getting Parker and the 17th pick in the draft for Melo c'mon lol That's absurd.
Lol keep dreaming.
Ainge is going to have to decide if he is going to build for future or build around it and horford...
my guess they build around it and horford and make trades for vers and trading for melo lrobably wont stop them from pursuing butler or george as well..
if they decide to go youth you might want to think about trading thomas while you can get a lot for him..
right now their team is going nowhere, 1 seed or not
Offensively, a revitalized Melo could do some oREB work. He's always been a strong offensive rebounder. He has been playing away from the basket a lot the past two seasons as the Knicks have 2 bigs out a lot of the time (and frankly, he's just not going there). But if he's a 4, he'll bully some rebounds.
Scoring aside, best part of Melo's game (career) has been rebounding.
Offensively, a revitalized Melo could do some oREB work. He's always been a strong offensive rebounder. He has been playing away from the basket a lot the past two seasons as the Knicks have 2 bigs out a lot of the time (and frankly, he's just not going there). But if he's a 4, he'll bully some rebounds.
Scoring aside, best part of Carmelo's game (career) has been rebounding.
The Carmelo Anthony you are talking about is a Carmelo Anthony that doesn't exist anymore...
... or, at the very least, a Carmelo that is dwindling fast.
Nah... it's rebounding, IMO. I've watched them all season.
They are a good team offensively. Not perfect, over-reliant on the 3... but their perimeter defense helps them manufacture points.
Rebounding is what kills them.
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is a second scorer. What am I missing. Whom do they have after IT that can get their own shot?
Nah... it's rebounding, IMO. I've watched them all season.
They are a good team offensively. Not perfect, over-reliant on the 3... but their perimeter defense helps them manufacture points.
Rebounding is what kills them.
stop thinking what worked for regular season..
if you want to win in the post season the celtics need another go to scorer..
cdltics are a good regular season team but in thenpost season they are going nowhere currently constructed
Sure, the C's could use another player that can create his own shot too. I never said otherwise.
Carmelo Anthony from 5 or 10 years ago might have been perfect in that role. That Anthony is gone, sadly... and I would argue his negatives outweigh his positives at this point.
maybe now that Rondo is out, sure.
I think the Clippers will move on from him. Blake S&T somewhere, Melo to LAC, assets to NY.
He's likely gone this season.
I just really wonder if someone can max him out right now. Seems terribly risky.
maybe griffin to boston, and knicks can get their hands on some picks and young players
Clips get:
Melo and Lee
Lakers get:
Griffin, Rivers and Wesley Johnson
Knicks get:
Russell, Randle, Deng, Brewer and the Rockets #1.
Ball, Ingram, PG, Blake, Zubac, Clarkson. Not shabby. That seems like something Phil Jackson was trying to bring to NY all along but it manifested into Derrick Rose and Noah instead of Blake and PG.