Go Bulls! A Bulls series win could 1. Prompt the Celtics to look into Melo 2. Prompt the Bulls into thinking they are "close" and add Melo
-Lebron is ridiculous
- Francesa chimed in on KP (linked below)
- Bucks aren't beating the Cavs but talk about an interesting team headed in the right direction...
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would think the Knicks will be asking for guys like one of Yabusele and Zizic + someone like Smart and a future pick.
Sounds like Phil would be adamant on getting back Crowder
I don't think Boston would give him up. He's their heart and soul defensively and despite their rep they aren't an especially great defensive team. Crowder for Melo is a major downgrade defensively. I think the Celtics would balk at giving up Crowder. I suspect they want to "pair" them together.
“Without question, Ante brings to the table a level of energy and intangibles that will allow him initially as a role player to contribute,” Blatt said, “because he’s going to rebound, he’s going to run, he’s going to go after loose balls, he’s going to be able to finish and he’s going to compete.”
Blatt said the floor spacing in the NBA should help Zizic as he improves his skill set, but that the level of athleticism could initially be jarring, because as powerful as the Euroleague is, it is not the NBA.
Still, he is confident that Zizic’s competitive fire will make the adjustment easier.
“You are not going to find a better kid than Ante Zizic,” Blatt said. “And I know how easy it is for people to say things like that, because that’s what people do when they want to support their player.
“But I’m telling you, all b.s. aside, you will not find a better kid than Ante
I would 100% do this.
Fultz or Josh Jackson and we get a FA this summer with the cap space and the future is not mortgaged.
Fultz or Josh Jackson and we get a FA this summer with the cap space and the future is not mortgaged.
Melo's contract is anything but horrible. He has an opt out after the season. He's basically a rental.
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especially with that horrible contract (he gave the gift to Hortford) and IT is due for a max contract.
Fultz or Josh Jackson and we get a FA this summer with the cap space and the future is not mortgaged.
Melo's contract is anything but horrible. He has an opt out after the season. He's basically a rental.
So give up a lottery picks for a 1 yr rental while not being able to use 20mil for a long term tier-1 FA .... yup that is a good contract to pickup ... smh
I am being realistic about what would be asked for Melo ... Knicks will want premium picks or gut the roster which would be counter productive .... the Brooklyn picks will be asked of Ainge .... let's be realistic here
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said anything about a lottery pick being given up?
I am being realistic about what would be asked for Melo ... Knicks will want premium picks or gut the roster which would be counter productive .... the Brooklyn picks will be asked of Ainge .... let's be realistic here
That could not be farther from the truth. Pretty sure he will do it straight up for Crowder right now.
1. Hayward
2. Lowry
3. Millsap
4. Holiday
5. Ibaka
6. George Hill
7. Dwayne Wade
8. Teague
9. Iguodala
10. Derrick Rose
If there is anything working in the Knicks favor it's the lack of interesting FA inventory this off-season.
have to remember we need a true center as well (which is a bigger issue than an additional scorer)
76ers will make a deal this summer we can get Hayward time is on our side ...
I also would prefer Smart too. I've soured on him but if in the very off chance he becomes a half decent 3 point shooter you have a very good player on your hands. On the flip side, rozier is a 6'1" combo guard, it's hard envisioning him as anything more than a 6th man. Smart at least can guard multiple questions (up to the 4 in some situations).
If you just call him a 2 and stick him in the corner, he's a 34.3% corner 3 shooter. Not very good but passable. With KP capable of taking the longer 3s that guards usually take, it is doable. But you'd lose Smart in transition D to some degree.
"I'd say the key to his development will probably be improving as a defensive rebounder," Pelton said. "His translated defensive rebound percentage is 16.9 percent, which is below average for a power forward (18.4 percent). But his high-percentage finishing, ability to shoot the FIBA 3 and solid block rate are all encouraging for the Celtics."
Yabo is going to replace soft Kelly O .....
Smart and AB makes up for Thomas defensive issues ... that is why both are going to stay
Sure but I think he'd be a decent addition to KP/Willy + our lotto pick. I'm not expecting superstar but he seems multi-skilled, has range etc. Seems like a pretty decent get (either one of them).
Yabo is going to replace soft Kelly O .....
Smart and AB makes up for Thomas defensive issues ... that is why both are going to stay
Bradley, Crowder, smart and horford haven't proven to make up for Thomas's issues...why now?
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
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The Celtics are very bullish on him. He's a strong, super-athletic big man who can stretch the floor and plays with both great energy and feel. He's a little undersized for his position, but the comparisons to Jae Crowder (or before the draft, Larry Johnson) seem apt.
I think I'd take his upside right now over that of Hernangomez or Brogdon."
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Willy, a year old, had "actual" per 36 stats of 16.0 points, 13.6 rebounds, and 2.6 assists. With 54% 2 point FG% (GY was 57% in a lesser league).
Sure but I think he'd be a decent addition to KP/Willy + our lotto pick. I'm not expecting superstar but he seems multi-skilled, has range etc. Seems like a pretty decent get (either one of them).
Oh, sure. I said I'd do him, Smart, and a #1. There was some talk of him being a guy who could play a Draymond like role. He seems too stocky for that. And in any event Draymond is kind of a unique player (and so much of what makes him great is between his ears).
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
Yes I am. Thomas isn't doing any favors in rebounding or boxing out.
And let's not forget we are still discussing the Celtics vs an 8 seed. If we being practical, how the hell do you matchup when facing Kyrie Lebron and love??
There's 0 proof you can win a playoff series with thomas getting 35-40 minutes a night. They're playing the worst playoff team in the NBA and...no dice. Rondo being out may flip the script but it doesn't prove that the C's aren't anything but pretenders as currently constructed.
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they more than make up for his defensive liabilities ....
If we would just rebound and box out ... that would reflect in easier scoring as well.
Yes I am. Thomas isn't doing any favors in rebounding or boxing out.
And let's not forget we are still discussing the Celtics vs an 8 seed. If we being practical, how the hell do you matchup when facing Kyrie Lebron and love??
There's 0 proof you can win a playoff series with thomas getting 35-40 minutes a night. They're playing the worst playoff team in the NBA and...no dice. Rondo being out may flip the script but it doesn't prove that the C's aren't anything but pretenders as currently constructed.
Cs are doing just fine .... Keep IT where he is replace Amir Johnson with a defensive rebounding C and that there changes a lot ... our biggest weakness rebounding ... 2nd weakness is 2 punch to go with the #1 .... enter FA or trading the picks (the right deal no team gutting)...otherwise rebuild thru the draft as we are doing.
Big, good defender, can guard multiple positions, can hit the corner 3 when open, can finish at the rim.
I agree that a Frenchie/Smart backcourt could be fun.
Smart would also love being in NY, not that that matters at all.
His upside is probably a better KOQ which I wouldn't hate.
And they are adding the possible #1 pick in the draft on top of that.
The only thing missing, of course, (and it is, admittedly, a big thing) is a top flight, #1, bonafide star. I love IT, but his height prevents him from being that guy.
Anywho, getting back on topic: I still don't see why Boston would want to do a Melo trade. Does adding Melo have them beating Cleveland? No, most probably not.
Furthermore: what's the C's biggest weakness? Rebounding. Does Melo help with that? No... in fact, if they play Melo at the 4, a bad rebounding team just got worse.
The C's will continue to bind their time, and have the luxury of playing for both now and later (thanks to the Nets trade)... they should look to make a move if it's a good one, but I don't think they are greatly desiring Melo, even at a bargain price.
What are your contract projections. Obviously, only Harford and Crowder are under contract for 2018. I think they'll likely need to keep IT because what they otherwise lack is a guy who can make his own offense. I have to think that they need to move one of Bradley, Smart, or Crowder. It's a luxury to have all three of those defenders. Bradley is the best player among them but will cost the most. Crowder might be a guy you let go a season too early so you dont get caught with 2-3 seasons too many (i.e. I could see him being a guy who is only very good during his 4-5 prime seasons). Smart you may let walk if he demands too much.
But even at 110 million, it's not like they'll need more capspace. Brown, the Nets 2017 #1 and 2018 #1, Yabs, Zizic -- that's 15-20 million of insane talent to fill out the rotation.
So in summary: Yes, lots of money would need to be spent to keep everyone. But I dont think IT is where you save it. Unless maybe you get Fultz this year, but even then IT has lots of value.
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i know its milwaukee but if kidd and melo are still close i wonder if kidd could convince him to come?
parker and their first for melo? take on a bad contract?
Aren't getting Parker and the 17th pick in the draft for Melo c'mon lol That's absurd.
Lol keep dreaming.
Ainge is going to have to decide if he is going to build for future or build around it and horford...
my guess they build around it and horford and make trades for vers and trading for melo lrobably wont stop them from pursuing butler or george as well..
if they decide to go youth you might want to think about trading thomas while you can get a lot for him..
right now their team is going nowhere, 1 seed or not
Offensively, a revitalized Melo could do some oREB work. He's always been a strong offensive rebounder. He has been playing away from the basket a lot the past two seasons as the Knicks have 2 bigs out a lot of the time (and frankly, he's just not going there). But if he's a 4, he'll bully some rebounds.
Scoring aside, best part of Melo's game (career) has been rebounding.
Offensively, a revitalized Melo could do some oREB work. He's always been a strong offensive rebounder. He has been playing away from the basket a lot the past two seasons as the Knicks have 2 bigs out a lot of the time (and frankly, he's just not going there). But if he's a 4, he'll bully some rebounds.
Scoring aside, best part of Carmelo's game (career) has been rebounding.
The Carmelo Anthony you are talking about is a Carmelo Anthony that doesn't exist anymore...
... or, at the very least, a Carmelo that is dwindling fast.
Nah... it's rebounding, IMO. I've watched them all season.
They are a good team offensively. Not perfect, over-reliant on the 3... but their perimeter defense helps them manufacture points.
Rebounding is what kills them.