They are dropping like a parachuter whose chute won't open.
The video of Mixon's punch was scary...I'm an ex pug, I can tell when a man knows what he's doing, the right-hand cross he hit that woman with could have been lethal.
This is an unverified quote from another site:
"I've seen some places where scouts say Cook off the field stuff is way worse then Mixon's. It was reported that Cook has had 2 incidents with violence towards women, had to have some animals rescued from his property for improper care and multiple gun incidents. Great talent but tons of red flags."
I've also read repeatedly that Cook interviews badly.
So if they're there, do we want people like this in blue?
The combine altercation and now the news of the diluted urine has scared people. Plus now he is the "benefactor" of having the best DL in front of him.
I'd be estatic with Foster TBH at 23. I've wanted a MLB like him for a long time.
As far as Mixon and Cook, I think the Giants stay away, especially after the Josh Brown fiasco. Can't blame them one bit.
--I don't know enough about Cook's collection of incidents to say anything other than I wouldn't touch him in the 1st round.
"I am happy we were able to bring the lawsuit to an end. Joe and I were able to meet privately, without any attorneys, and talk about our experiences since that night. I am encouraged that we will both be able to move forward from here with our lives, From our private discussions I am satisfied that we are going to put this behind us and work towards helping others who may have found themselves in similar circumstances. I greatly appreciate his apology and I think the feelings he expressed were sincere. We both could have handled things differently. I believe if we had a chance to go back to that moment in time, the situation would not have ended the way it did. Going forward, Joe and I agreed we needed to move on from this situation and focus on the future. I'm now planning to attend graduate school. I still plan to speak out and support other people, whether on college campuses or elsewhere, who are faced with overcoming difficult circumstances that have attracted intense public scrutiny. I'm finished talking about what happened that night with Joe. It's time to move on from that. I wish Joe the best of luck in his future." - In a statement made by Mia Molitor
A Poster of the original article made this point: "Yes Women keep accepting hush money while fighting for women's rights. Let me know how that goes..."
I tried to explain this from a different perspective, but i'm done with that, in light of this I would say to everyone claiming they don't want this kid on the team... He is a top 15 prospect, arguably 2a/2b out of the top 3 RB's, this team needs another RB.
If he's there in the 4th since you all are so sensitive he is a no brainer pick we have missed on 90% of our fourth rounder's since 1990 (slight exaggeration) this kid would be the biggest steal, even if he's there in the 3rd round he's a huge steal.
I hope the giants draft him and whenever he scores a touchdown for this team if he's drafted I'll cheer extra hard for you guys who will grumble and kick your cans over cause the guy you hate more than Brock Turner is helping the team you claim to love so much.
Im here... ready!
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
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Love Mixon. Hes going to be a beast for some team. Compares to David Johnson.
By all accounts he is a helluva RB, but I wouldn't compare him to David Johnson. Not saying he is better or worse, just different.
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Love Mixon. Hes going to be a beast for some team. Compares to David Johnson.
By all accounts he is a helluva RB, but I wouldn't compare him to David Johnson. Not saying he is better or worse, just different.
Scouts compared him to david johnson and matt forte
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/nfl-scout-joe-mixon-best-rb-in-draft/354771
you saying you know more than the scouts?
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
So his upside is guaranteed now? Riiiight.
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you just said it in your subject. Guaranteed upside will always trump potential downside as there is no evidence to state that there will be a downside or that the downside would manifest hence why you deemed it 'potential'.
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
So his upside is guaranteed now? Riiiight.
Looking at the measurable, the production, draft grade... there is more of a guarantee to his upside than the possibility of his downside.
Players understand money right? His Agent if he's a good one is telling him hey... your actions kicked you out of the first round...second and third possibly. Thats this much money you lost, if you don't miss a meeting, don't get in trouble, don't be late for anything show up play up to your talent and more for 3-4 years I can get you the money you lost and then some on your next contract
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The Mixon defenders will be here shortly to get the argument started.
Im here... ready!
Proceed.
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you just said it in your subject. Guaranteed upside will always trump potential downside as there is no evidence to state that there will be a downside or that the downside would manifest hence why you deemed it 'potential'.
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
So his upside is guaranteed now? Riiiight.
Scouts and Analyst who get their information from scouts are not usually wrong about top prospects. sure there is room for error see ron dayne, but this kid is compared to david johnson, played in a tough division, can run out of the zone and man blocking schemes, can catch out of the backfield, runs good clean routes, is above avg blocking can get better at that. he is an every down back, who prior to the incident was ranked 1,2 or 3 depending on the scout grading.
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The Mixon defenders will be here shortly to get the argument started.
Im here... ready!
Proceed.
Thanks
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
Really? No evidence of a downside? Really????
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you just said it in your subject. Guaranteed upside will always trump potential downside as there is no evidence to state that there will be a downside or that the downside would manifest hence why you deemed it 'potential'.
Upside is there and there is no denying it.
Really? No evidence of a downside? Really????
Yes.... read and comprehend it is a hypothetical, the downside is that he will hit a woman again seeing as he hit a woman in the past. there is no evidence to state that this will happen AGAIN! or that he would manifest these behaviors AGAIN!
Understand?
A good thing, I guess.
this is a good point
Why do you think these teams care about character, just to look good in the public eye?
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Love Mixon. Hes going to be a beast for some team. Compares to David Johnson.
By all accounts he is a helluva RB, but I wouldn't compare him to David Johnson. Not saying he is better or worse, just different.
Scouts compared him to david johnson and matt forte
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/nfl-scout-joe-mixon-best-rb-in-draft/354771
you saying you know more than the scouts?
Apples and oranges - Ray Rice was already on the downside of his career, coming off a season where he had faded. RBs at that point of their playing careers have a hard time getting jobs even with a clean record.
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We all saw the viciousness of the Ray Rice punch, and to this day no NFL team has touched him (even with Ray offering to play for free). Mixon's hit was worse.
Apples and oranges - Ray Rice was already on the downside of his career, coming off a season where he had faded. RBs at that point of their playing careers have a hard time getting jobs even with a clean record.
I think he'll go in the 3 or 4th at the latest. The teams with lots of comp picks will burn one. Don't know if the Vikings fall into that group but they have been floating out stories about taking players that won't be popular with fans, easing in to the PR uproar that's going to follow.
Just too much opportunity to screw up and too many people willing to help them do it.
People seem to overlook that Rice was starting to show some decline.
Just too much opportunity to screw up and too many people willing to help them do it.
I think this is overblown. Unless they do something stupid the media won't matter
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the one problem in his game is being too patient at times on stretch run plays and taking the first hole he sees, which can be coached
He is a very talented prospect and would cut the need for 5 RB's on this team.
If he is there at good value I hope the giants get him, and get someone to be on top of him so that he stays out of trouble, put clauses in his contract.
This is the common misconception that analyst spew and then it becomes reality to sheep minded individuals.
A player can get in trouble in Arizona just as much as they can in NY,NV or Cali