Kratch on the Giants trade up target possibilities

IMO, YES for Thomas, NO for McCaffrey

Just to begin talks with SF for number 2 overall.. Now if a good player gets past philly and we want to jump washington to get him, fine. That wouldnt cost us nearly as much.. Problem is Thomas and Mccaffrey are not sliding period.. The only player worth a trade up that i can see as a maybe/possibly sliding on draft night.. J Allen bama..

if they tried to move up and grab McCaffrey, the problem is that he probably won't slide far enough to have a realistic shot.

Thomas isn't making it out of the top 5, so that one is crazy talk.

And if you are going to mention Thomas as someone the Giants would trade up for, why not just go with Myles Garrett?

Having said that, I have warmed up to the idea of McCafferey if he makes it within trading distance of 23.

Not a chance either happening.

Personally, I rather doubt he is as good with the ball in his hands as Perkins, even if he has somewhat better long speed.

I certainly see no reason to move up to select a committee player, even if versatile.

even if available.

I'd rather trade down.

In comment 13439913 Bob in Newburgh said:

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Personally, I rather doubt he is as good with the ball in his hands as Perkins, even if he has somewhat better long speed. I certainly see no reason to move up to select a committee player, even if versatile.

Well put. I agree completely.

...for trading up.

A more likely scenario (oops, my bad, that's my scenario) is they trade up a couple spots for Cam Robinson if he makes it past Denver and the Giants want to jump ahead of Miami (and are afraid that Seattle will jump ahead of them). They could also try to jump ahead of Denver, but that would cost the Giants their 3rd round pick and I don't think the Giants want to give that up. A trade up with Detroit would only cost them their 4th round pick (which is more like an early 5th round pick than it is a 4th round pick).

that you are Cam Robinson's agent?

Would be awesome, it's unclear if he'll make it to our window, though.

In comment 13439985 Phil in LA said:

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Would be awesome, it's unclear if he'll make it to our window, though.

Phil, as always, great to see when you come on here. Where do you think/guess McCaffery gets picked without a trade-up?

And realistic who they may try to trade up for in the second round

More as a name that I (not necessarily the Giants) would trade up for if I'm a GM. I'm more sold on him than Garrett. If I were the Browns, I'd take Thomas at No. 1.

I don't expect the Giants to trade up. They could, but I thought what Jerry said about them liking to make their picks was pretty telling. They want their at-bats, and they don't have any surplus picks to work with.

In comment 13440018 James Kratch said:

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More as a name that I (not necessarily the Giants) would trade up for if I'm a GM. I'm more sold on him than Garrett. If I were the Browns, I'd take Thomas at No. 1. I don't expect the Giants to trade up. They could, but I thought what Jerry said about them liking to make their picks was pretty telling. They want their at-bats, and they don't have any surplus picks to work with.

Days before the draft, have you finalized your 23 pick

Before we pick. Most likely in the top 10.

looks like a penetrating 3 tech and a guy that fills a major need but Jonathan Allen looks like a much better player inside even with the busted shoulders, plus he fits the giants size/weight profile. Wouldn't he be a better trade up target if the medicals make early first round teams uneasy about the risk?

In comment 13440055 HugeS said:

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looks like a penetrating 3 tech and a guy that fills a major need but Jonathan Allen looks like a much better player inside even with the busted shoulders, plus he fits the giants size/weight profile. Wouldn't he be a better trade up target if the medicals make early first round teams uneasy about the risk?

Can you be more specific sbout his "busted shoulders?"

In comment 13439975 Bob in Newburgh said:

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that you are Cam Robinson's agent?

Severe labral tears in both shoulders that required surgical reconstruction. Played without setbacks last year in spite of the surgeries.

In comment 13440089 HugeS said:

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Severe labral tears in both shoulders that required surgical reconstruction. Played without setbacks last year in spite of the surgeries.

Thanks..Red flag for me..One? Ok..Two? I'd opt for Thomas of the two. Neither will happen, but hypothetically, Thomas would be my guy

In comment 13439985 Phil in LA said:

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Would be awesome, it's unclear if he'll make it to our window, though.

Unclear? Are you nuts? He definitely won't be there at 23. He goes in the top 10 and I'm not even a draft enthusiast. You either have a conviction about getting him and making it happen or you don't. We made the mistake decades ago about getting rid of his father and look what he accomplished. Don't make the same mistake twice. Go up and get him. Can you imagine if he went to anyone in our division?

If McCaffery is there at 23

if he's there. Someone above made a good point- is he even better than Perkins right now. Consider how bad our blocking was last year, I just don't see the need to upgrade our RB with a 1st rd pick. Especially trading up??!! That would be a remote thrower to me.

Now Solomon Thomas would be the guy to trade up for. Not saying its wise to do it especially inside the top ten, but he's a beast. I would also consider trading up for Allen if he hit the late teens. Either of those dudes would make our Dline a whole lot scarier than it is now already and fills a huge need.

McCaffery's skillset can be found within Perkins..If so, I wouldn't want him at 23

In comment 13440418 Big Blue '56 said:

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McCaffery's skillset can be found within Perkins..If so, I wouldn't want him at 23

No. Definitely not similar to McCaffrey IMO I . Cook is similar to Perkins. But Perkins isnt on either ones level remotely. It wouldn't stop you from taking the player.

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not even close. The questions on him are durability for the NFL level.

In comment 13439922 jeff57 said:

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I'd rather trade down.

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Except JR has never done it, they do what they do.
It's like the line at the deli, at your local supermarket.
When their number is called, they will select an item.

In comment 13439951 Milton said:

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...for trading up. A more likely scenario (oops, my bad, that's my scenario) is they trade up a couple spots for Cam Robinson if he makes it past Denver and the Giants want to jump ahead of Miami (and are afraid that Seattle will jump ahead of them). They could also try to jump ahead of Denver, but that would cost the Giants their 3rd round pick and I don't think the Giants want to give that up. A trade up with Detroit would only cost them their 4th round pick (which is more like an early 5th round pick than it is a 4th round pick).

This is bordering on the absurd. No way in hell do the Giants draft Robinson. Get over it now or cry all weekend. He's not worth #23 let alone a trade down.

They are looking to trade down and we have a solid working relationship.
Looking at mocks, what teams are interested in, it seems like O.J. Howard will be available at 16.

Will be very interesting to see what we do if he's available with BAL on the clock.