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NFT: NYR-OTT Pre-Series Discussion & Make fun of Andy-Halifax Thrd

MetsAreBack : 4/24/2017 2:46 pm
4 long days to discuss the number 5 and 6 overall seeds left in the tournament squaring off over the next 18 days. Post all related info here. As well as any jokes you can think of about Andy in Halifax. Fuck the enemy.

Personally, I went 3-5 in the first round so i will hold off on making winner projections going forward. This one should go 6+.

As far as this series' storylines, not exactly rivals but you knew somehow/someway the Rangers big trade this past offseason would end up with that player coming back to face us in a playoff round. It's been the story of the Torts/AV tenure:

Brassard, Gaborik, Stralman, Boyle, Callahan, Hagelin, Prust... off the top of my head

Everyone will talk about Mika vs Brassard in this series and i get why. To me the more relevant analysis is Stepan vs Brassard. One of them was getting traded given cap issues, and I'm certain the Rangers shopped both (DS supposedly wanted to play for Minnesota).

But i guess Gorton got the return he liked better on Brassard.... similar players -- Stepan needs to have a big series and outperform Brass-balls for us to be successful.

Finally, Geeey vs Elaine. How did Geeey get that massive scar on his face?
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Predictions for this round  
Giants in 07 : 4/25/2017 12:06 pm : link
Rangers in 5
Capitals in 7
Oilers in 7
Blues in 7

Hopefully this round makes up for the lack of Game 7's in the first round, except for the Rangers series.

Really hope Pens/Caps goes 7 and they beat the shit out of each other. I feel like the Letang absence will be noticeable going forward.

Never really bought into the whole "Pittsburgh went to the finals last year, so they may start to feel fatigue" thing but whatever, sounds good to me. Whatever it takes to not play that team in two weeks.
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arcarsenal : 4/25/2017 12:10 pm : link
I think we've won like 2-3 playoff series in 5 games or less in the last decade and we've been in like 20 during that span.

I would not bank on the Rangers winning this series in 5 games.

I do think they can win the series - but the Senators are going to give us a hard time.
Off the top of my head  
MetsAreBack : 4/25/2017 12:46 pm : link
Thrashers - sweep

Devils - 5 games, i think maybe 2007 or around then? The series Avery got in Brodeur's head

Penguins 2 years ago (and we won 3 games in OT to do it)
Yeah, I don't disagree.  
Giants in 07 : 4/25/2017 12:50 pm : link
Saw Rangers 4-1 @ +500 and jumped on it so..

It wouldn't be a Rangers playoff series if I didn't think the season was over after Game 3.
^^^  
Andy in Halifax : 4/25/2017 12:52 pm : link
Flounder?
that is indeed the extent of the 5 game series wins  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2017 12:53 pm : link
6 game series wins are Montreal (both this year and 2014). Everything else went seven or was a series loss.
These Rangers tend not to lose to so-so teams  
Deej : 4/25/2017 1:00 pm : link
Last year the Pens, who won the Cup. Year before they lost in the conference finals (TB). Year before that, cup finals (LAK). Year before that, lost to a SCF finalist (BOS). Year before that, NJD in the conference finals.

So 5 straight years we've lost to the Stanley Cup winner or runner-up. Year before that stretch, we lost to the Caps, who were a 1 seed.
RE: ^^^  
YAJ2112 : 4/25/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13441477 Andy in Halifax said:
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Flounder?


yep, where have you been? he's been back for a while.
RE: Game by game  
5BowlsSoon : 4/25/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13441012 MetsAreBack said:
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1. Dead heat - Rangers won on a Tanner Glass freak play

2. Montreal dominated play

3. Montreal dominated play

4. Rangers dominated play

5. Dead heat - Lundqvist stopped a breakaway with 5 minutes to go in a 2-2 game. That was the series. Not us moving to 4 scoring lines. However, once Lundqvist did save the game over the first two periods and then that breakaway -we wore them down in the OT by having those 4 lines. THe better team in OT won.

6. Rangers slightly carried play. Lundqvist did toe tap a tieing goal with about 1 minute left to keep game going to OT, but the Rangers missed 2-3 great opportunities themselves in the final 10 minutes.


Thanks Mets for this detailed analysis. Sounds pretty even. Actually, I did watch about 9 minutes and that was the OT in game 5. I figured whoever won this game probably wins the series. I was shocked at what I was seeing. The Rangers were swarming Price. Like you said, no matter who came over the boards, 1st line or 4th line, was swarming. Habs looked overwhelmed and Rangers did not play this tight to the vest. When they scored, I said to myself, they deserve to win this series and I hope my Leafs come out with such passion in OT against the Capitals. Oh well. Anyhow, thanks again. Good luck to your boys. I hope you pummel Ottawa.
Not sure about causation  
Deej : 4/25/2017 2:28 pm : link
but I think the series turned once Buch came in for Glass. The Rangers started to carry the play. Not 100% of the time, but things were really different.
I'd rather make fun of Andy  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2017 2:30 pm : link
for his Giants' draft.
You get that Miada you always dreamed of yet princess?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/25/2017 2:47 pm : link
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RE: ^^^  
Giants in 07 : 4/25/2017 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13441477 Andy in Halifax said:
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Flounder?


Whats up pal? Been a while.

Hope you enjoyed this year's Australian Open as much as I did.. Didn't think we'd get to see him win again.

Looking forward to this Rangers/Sens series.
Subban looking good early  
schabadoo : 4/26/2017 8:34 pm : link
Nashville would be fun to see come out of the West.
Preds are a good team.  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 8:38 pm : link
I'd definitely like to see them come out of the West.
The Blonde with the SPLENDID RACK  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/26/2017 9:30 pm : link
is right behind Laviolette. God Bless Her!
The Predators..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/26/2017 10:22 pm : link
will win this round. Can't see how they won't.
I am picking NSH as well..  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 10:32 pm : link
But this is going to be a long series.

StL has been excellent since Yeo took over for Hitchcock. I believe they were 22-8-2 in that span and they made very quick work of the Wild who had a really strong season (though this is par for the course for a Boudreau team..) in the first round.

They're not going to go quietly. If Nashville advances to the WCF, they're going to need 6 or 7 games to get there.
Wish the rangers  
bigbluehoya : 4/26/2017 10:40 pm : link
Would shoot in that situation. You just know they'd have tried to make 3 perfect passes in that spot.
This is a really good game.  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 10:41 pm : link
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Wait.  
B in ALB : 4/26/2017 10:42 pm : link
Flounder is back?

I gotta hit up the crying video again. Shit was hilarious.
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arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 10:42 pm : link
I've really had enough of this Fat Marty commercial.

All time great goaltender but the guy is so fucking cringe-worthy.
LOL...  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 10:43 pm : link
Y'all didn't know Giants in 07 was Flounder? He's been back around these parts for a while.
Busted play gets the Preds back on top.  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 10:49 pm : link
Allen really needs to stop that puck, though. If you're going to open up the 5-hole, you better get your stick on that puck. Took a crappy swipe at it and missed.
I guess I forgot again  
B in ALB : 4/26/2017 10:50 pm : link
He hasn't done anything like crying in front of millions of people lately.

Where's the guy who pissed his pants? He still around?
I guess I forgot again  
B in ALB : 4/26/2017 10:52 pm : link
He hasn't done anything like crying in front of millions of people lately.

Where's the guy who pissed his pants? He still around?
bavarofan?  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2017 11:04 pm : link
I haven't seen him post in quite some time.

Probably the funniest BBI thread I've ever seen in my 10 or 11 years here (Christ, I'm fucking old...)

That was one for the ages.
Edmonton/Anaheim is a great matchup  
Kyle in NY : 4/27/2017 12:04 am : link
this series should get pretty nasty too. I enjoy watching this Anaheim defense. Wonder if we can trade them offense for defense after the season. I believe they're facing some issues with the expansion draft as well.
And Cam Fowler  
Kyle in NY : 4/27/2017 12:07 am : link
always reminds me of Anak's draft night freakout when we took McIlrath instead of him or Tarasenko. Obviously, he was right. At the time it was pretty funny though
Anaheim has killed themselves with penalties tonight  
MetsAreBack : 4/27/2017 12:38 am : link
But id bet heavy money they represent the west. So complete. I will probably be wrong but I'm guessing caps vs ducks final. I know not exactly going out on a limb there.

Subban tonight was awesome - great postgame interview tonight too. He gave it to Pierre.

Hi PJ!!
Very happy to not have to face Subban  
Kyle in NY : 4/27/2017 12:43 am : link
when we went against MTL. He's fantastic
Going down with the Caps' ship, eh MAB?  
Greg from LI : 4/27/2017 9:12 am : link
Pittsburgh is going to beat them fairly easily IMO.
RE: Very happy to not have to face Subban  
schabadoo : 4/27/2017 9:15 am : link
In comment 13444096 Kyle in NY said:
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when we went against MTL. He's fantastic


Looking at that trade, I had no idea Weber's contract has a cap hit of $7,857,141 until 2026. That could get ugly down the road.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/27/2017 9:28 am : link
Was there a reason why the two Eastern games are tonight and not split up?

Preds-Rangers Final. Rangers in 3.
I still don't like our chances against either the Caps or Pens  
Torrag : 4/27/2017 9:34 am : link
...that said the Caps are choke artists and the Pens lost Letang which makes that series more winnable.
Didnt read entire  
RinR : 4/27/2017 9:35 am : link
thread so dont know if this was brought up but can someone explain the NHL's seeding logic. How is Wash & Pitt playing each other in second round?
RE: ....  
schabadoo : 4/27/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13444375 BrettNYG10 said:
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Was there a reason why the two Eastern games are tonight and not split up?

Preds-Rangers Final. Rangers in 3.


Caps couldn't play last night due to Bullets home game. Not sure why NYR didn't play last nite. Maybe other scheduling issues.

Would've been much better viewing to split the east games.
RE: And Cam Fowler  
Anakim : 4/27/2017 9:59 am : link
In comment 13444079 Kyle in NY said:
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always reminds me of Anak's draft night freakout when we took McIlrath instead of him or Tarasenko. Obviously, he was right. At the time it was pretty funny though


FACKIN BULLSHIT. Everyone knew it was a terrible pick except for Gordie Clark
RE: Didnt read entire  
schabadoo : 4/27/2017 10:01 am : link
In comment 13444396 RinR said:
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thread so dont know if this was brought up but can someone explain the NHL's seeding logic. How is Wash & Pitt playing each other in second round?


Goes back to the lockout I believe. Changed scheduling to promote more division rivalries, save on travel. Caps and Pens are in the Metro division bracket.
I wouldn't quite say I'd be confident against the Caps  
Greg from LI : 4/27/2017 10:04 am : link
But I think the Rangers definitely COULD beat them.

Pittsburgh is Rangers' kryptonite. Aside from that one series two years ago when they were injury-riddled (and still made the series much closer than it should have been), I don't think the Rangers have ever won a series against the scum. Most of them weren't even particularly close.
RE: I wouldn't quite say I'd be confident against the Caps  
arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 10:09 am : link
In comment 13444470 Greg from LI said:
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But I think the Rangers definitely COULD beat them.

Pittsburgh is Rangers' kryptonite. Aside from that one series two years ago when they were injury-riddled (and still made the series much closer than it should have been), I don't think the Rangers have ever won a series against the scum. Most of them weren't even particularly close.


Did you forget the 2014 conference semi's when we came back from down 3-1 to beat them?
um, no  
Greg from LI : 4/27/2017 10:10 am : link
I mentioned that series right in my post.
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arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 10:12 am : link
No you didn't. You mentioned the 2015 first round series that we won in 5 games.
RE: Didnt read entire  
Deej : 4/27/2017 10:16 am : link
In comment 13444396 RinR said:
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thread so dont know if this was brought up but can someone explain the NHL's seeding logic. How is Wash & Pitt playing each other in second round?


Top 3 in each division make the playoffs, which are arranged by division. Then two wild cards make it per conference. The better wild card team (WC1) plays the worse division winner in its conference. So the Rangers, WC1, played Montreal (which finished with fewer points than Washington).

The Metro Division playoffs were thus: #1 Metro team Wash vs. WC2 Toronto (b/c W.C. seeds ignore divisions). The Metro 2 and 3 teams, Pitt and CBJ, played each other. Pitt and Wash advanced to the Metro division finals.
Then I guess I did  
Greg from LI : 4/27/2017 10:26 am : link
Point is, I don't want to play those fucks. So tired of losing to that evil franchise and their scummy fucking fans. IIRC the Rangers' two worst defeats this season were both against Pittsburgh - 7-2 and 6-0, I think.
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arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 10:32 am : link
I wouldn't want to play them either. I'd rather play WSH. But, if there's going to be a "good" time to play PIT, it would probably be in the ECF after a long, tough series against the Capitals the year after they won the Cup. A lot of extra games. Might be able to catch them when they're banged up and running out of steam.

Senators first, though... this is going to be a difficult series.
RE: RE: Didnt read entire  
MetsAreBack : 4/27/2017 10:37 am : link
In comment 13444463 schabadoo said:
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In comment 13444396 RinR said:


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thread so dont know if this was brought up but can someone explain the NHL's seeding logic. How is Wash & Pitt playing each other in second round?



Goes back to the lockout I believe. Changed scheduling to promote more division rivalries, save on travel. Caps and Pens are in the Metro division bracket.


No, they changed the format 3 years ago. We got screwed by it last year (would have hosted Islanders in first round last year under the old, post-lockout format of seeding 8 teams instead of the white-hot eventual Cup champs on the road) .... but in 2014 we caught a break as the 5 seed in the East facing 6 seed Philadelphia (instead of going on the road to 4 seed Montreal with Carey Price - who we eventually faced in the ECF that year) ... and obviously this year we caught a break too.

Bummer for Capitals and Penguins two years in a row now. On the other hand, if you're on their teams and have the right attitude, you're basically saying to yourself, 'ok my toughest opponent just happens one round earlier now... win, and we're overwhelming favorites to win the Cup (as Pittsburgh did last year) ... lose and at least I get two extra weeks summer vacation'
I'd rather face Pittsburgh  
MetsAreBack : 4/27/2017 10:44 am : link
a) they're not as good/deep as the Capitals without Letang

b) They've already won so many Cups, as a bitter fan who's put seeing Lundqvist win one at the very top of my "things to see this generation' wish list -- I can deal with losing to them and having Sydney hoist a third, than seeing Caps fans get to celebrate their first for Ovechkin. It's one of those 'if I have to be miserable... so do (Flyer) and (Capital) fans too'

I do think Capitals are winning that series in 6. This is their year.
Also--  
MetsAreBack : 4/27/2017 10:46 am : link
even if you beat the Capitals (somehow), they wear you down big time for your next series. Granted that would be the SCF, but playing Capitals for 7 and then a physical Ducks/Predators team... is a steep task.

Anyway -- we have our hands full big time with a talented Ottawa team, so I'm not counting my chickens yet. What happens, happens.
Their defense is better  
Greg from LI : 4/27/2017 10:46 am : link
But I'd take the Pens' forwards over the Caps' every time and never think twice about it. I guess Fleury is the wild card. He certainly is capable of blowing a series on his own, but he's also capable of playing lights-out. Never know which Fleury will show up.
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