Hoping someone from BBI with experience on this can help. I have a lakefront property in NY that is technically a reservoir. They do however allow residents on the lake to use it for recreational purposes as long as no gas motors are used.
My side of the lake is rather shallow and is COVERED in lily pads and all sorts of weeds that drive me crazy and I need them gone (just in front on my backyard at the least). I've been recommended everything from grass karp to chemicals, but have been hesitant to try anything hoping I can waste as little money as possible with the trial and error approach. Also, considering the hazards some of these options come with, I did not want to take my chances knowing very little.
Anyone with experience on this please help!!!! Looking for the most effective way to get rid of these weeds. The lake would be much more enjoyable without the weeds at least just in front of my backyard. Killlakeweeds.com was highly recommended as well.
Not sure you can get rid of weeds 'just in front of your yard'. Won't the wind/current just blow the lily pads back in front after you clear them?
Not sure you can get rid of weeds 'just in front of your yard'. Won't the wind/current just blow the lily pads back in front after you clear them?
That is sort of what I am trying to figure out. Almost positive no water is drawn from it anymore for usage as it did in the past. So in terms of can I- probably not from the town's perspective, but would it hurt anyone- most likely not and obviously I'll make sure of that before I do use chemicals.
Apparently if you do use chemicals, they are effective only where you drop them in the water (such as pellets). So where they fall to the bottom would only effect within a few feet. Lily pads all have roots that connect to the bottom of the lake so probably wouldn't drift.
Also, it is rumored other people have used chemicals in the past on the lake in front of their property, however those are no longer sold.
Also usually most reservoirs are controlled by some type of agency which govern what is allowed within so many feet of the waters edge. Check with them as far as what is permissible before killing any plant life or introducing any chemicals.
They may even have a web site with that information available to you.
Did you sign any type of agreement that may have listed restriction when you purchased the property?
Man not in my lake!!! Almost seems to get worse every year. It is nice to have them in some parts of the lake, however they literally take over the water. It's great fishing near and in the beds, but difficult when they get so bulky. If I could just get rid of portion near my property (50ft or so) my dog could swim without taking him out past the pads and I could use my motor from my dock instead of paddling the boat out about a football field long in bulky weeds. A lake down the street from me stocked the water with Karp this past year and all the lily pads are completely gone. Most likely that is the reason you are seeing less now.
Gee thanks bud, glad that's how you feel. Buy another house because of lily pads? Those sound like smart suggestions. It would have been idiotic of me to just go about doing what I felt like without posting and asking what is safe and what is recommended. As I also mentioned in the comments, no water is drawn from the lake for usage of any sort. It is actually called a lake . And for the record I could care less how it looks, more or less so I can actually use the lake more from my backyard.
Also usually most reservoirs are controlled by some type of agency which govern what is allowed within so many feet of the waters edge. Check with them as far as what is permissible before killing any plant life or introducing any chemicals.
They may even have a web site with that information available to you.
Did you sign any type of agreement that may have listed restriction when you purchased the property?
Thanks for the info. No agreement signed for anything of the sort. I think there may be town ordinances regarding the usage of the lake. And in terms of releasing wildlife, I really did not want to at all knowing how much it could alter the ecosystem.
There is a very restrictive permitting process for chemicals in Lake Ontario and the person performing the application must be licensed.
In the instance of Canadice/Hemlock (or any other reservoir in NYS), NO CHEMICALS are allowed. Not only are gas motors prohibited, but when I lived there, you could not go in the water barefoot!
There are stiff penalties for violations.
Mechanical weed cutters are used by the towns and private owners to keep the vegetation down in lakes that are not reservoirs.
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any non-native wildlife (grass carp)into the water. That could alter the entire ecosystem, and likley is illegal as well unless done so with cooperation of the states wildlife agency.
Also usually most reservoirs are controlled by some type of agency which govern what is allowed within so many feet of the waters edge. Check with them as far as what is permissible before killing any plant life or introducing any chemicals.
They may even have a web site with that information available to you.
Did you sign any type of agreement that may have listed restriction when you purchased the property?
Thanks for the info. No agreement signed for anything of the sort. I think there may be town ordinances regarding the usage of the lake. And in terms of releasing wildlife, I really did not want to at all knowing how much it could alter the ecosystem.
You need to find out who governs the lake and check with them. Even though homeowners are allowed usage of, usually the individuals don't actually own any of the water or often even so many feet surrounding the waters edge.
Releasing any chemicals could put you at risk for some hefty fines if done so illegally without proper permission. Even beyond local, there could be state or federal regulations that may apply. Do your homework before taking any action.
What lake is it?
There is a very restrictive permitting process for chemicals in Lake Ontario and the person performing the application must be licensed.
In the instance of Canadice/Hemlock (or any other reservoir in NYS), NO CHEMICALS are allowed. Not only are gas motors prohibited, but when I lived there, you could not go in the water barefoot!
There are stiff penalties for violations.
Mechanical weed cutters are used by the towns and private owners to keep the vegetation down in lakes that are not reservoirs.
Thanks. Yea I could definitely see to that. However, this is sort of a tricky label to this piece of water. It definitely was a reservoir at some point feeding into a small portion of the town's waterline. They then changed the name "reservoir" to "lake" after they stopped using the water. Still no gas allowed, but can be used to swim for the residents. Neighbors along the lake used something for their property at some point, but said it's no longer sold (seems sketchy, probably very illegal). Hoping I could get pointers as to what is effective and legal. The weed cutting machine works for about a week or so and they grow right back.
Holy fuck dude, slow your roll. U mad bro?
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any non-native wildlife (grass carp)into the water. That could alter the entire ecosystem, and likley is illegal as well unless done so with cooperation of the states wildlife agency.
Also usually most reservoirs are controlled by some type of agency which govern what is allowed within so many feet of the waters edge. Check with them as far as what is permissible before killing any plant life or introducing any chemicals.
They may even have a web site with that information available to you.
Did you sign any type of agreement that may have listed restriction when you purchased the property?
Thanks for the info. No agreement signed for anything of the sort. I think there may be town ordinances regarding the usage of the lake. And in terms of releasing wildlife, I really did not want to at all knowing how much it could alter the ecosystem.
You need to find out who governs the lake and check with them. Even though homeowners are allowed usage of, usually the individuals don't actually own any of the water or often even so many feet surrounding the waters edge.
Releasing any chemicals could put you at risk for some hefty fines if done so illegally without proper permission. Even beyond local, there could be state or federal regulations that may apply. Do your homework before taking any action.
What lake is it?
Steve - appreciate the advice and my mission is to do this in the safest way possible knowing I won't get thrown in jail for some serious environmental law. Problem is, people on the lake seem to get rid of them, but are shady about it. So I am hesitant to bring attention my way to the town about it in case they notice and start questioning me.
Lake Mombasha in Monroe, NY.
For all the research I've done, this is where I keep ending up. There literally is nothing you can do outside of having the governor of the water do something or going the illegal route which I have no intention of doing.
Eric your welcome anytime! Lots of pickerel and bass for sure. Great fishing lake and swimming as well.
That also applies to dandelions and millions of people including yourself possibly use chemicals to get rid of them simply for viewing pleasure.
you checked this out? - ( New Window )
You're a fucking jackass aren't you buddy.
lily pad removal - ( New Window )
You say "other" lake shore owners are "shady" about what they've done; maybe if all of the lake shore residents become shady, you'll all have a dead body of water that begins to stink. Call the Wetlands Commission or whatever the relevant body is in Monroe Township and inform yourself. Cornell Ag Extension is a good idea too.
Yes it's always been like this. Gets worse each year (thicker and spreads). Only on one side there are weeds. The other 60% or so is clear water.
No matter the circumstances I do not feel comfortable using chemicals and rather use a machine or pull them out by hand. But again thanks for all your help and if you are ever in the Monroe NY area shoot me a BBI shoutout and we'll do some fishing and talk some GMEN football.