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| LEVELAND, OH (WOIO) - There have been numerous conversations at Cleveland 19 News about the report you are about to read. There's a lot at stake. It involves a young woman who said she was sexually assaulted, a young man who is about to start his NFL career, and a team who may be taking a huge risk drafting a player who's under investigation right here in Cleveland. "Officers on scene no call back -- 23-year-old female conscious and breathing, victim of a sexual assault." That's police radio traffic coming from the downtown Westin Hotel in Cleveland after 3 a.m. Sunday, April 9. The accused is a college football player who is expected to be taken in the first round of Thursday's NFL Draft. We are not naming the player because we're waiting for the police report. And we want to be very clear he has not been officially charged with a crime at this point. By phone, investigative producer Cassie Nist spoke to the player's attorney |
Not saying that happened here, because obviously we don't know the details, and bottom line is when a woman says no, it definitely means no, and that should always be taken seriously.
But no woman should go to a man's hotel room alone with him, ever, especially late at night, unless you have the specific intention of getting down. If that's chauvinist, don't care, it's reality. It's just not a good idea. This is not to say that excuses criminal behavior, because it absolutely doesn't, but I will never understand these women who are like, "so we headed up to his room at 2:30am and once inside... get this... this caveman wanted sex!" Seriously, call it a night before going up there unless you are intending to make the sex.
Pussy?
Pussy?
Or even weed. SMH.
Maybe he wanted some strange in Cleveland?
Seriously, though, as I said with the Bromley situation let the facts come out. More often than not the female is making this up. Sad but true. But, there are never any winners in these situations.
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No the Cleveland news station is saying it's a player slated to be drafted in 1st round
Who goes to Cleveland to party? Gotta be a player from Ohio. Ohio State, Ohio, Toledo.
Conley
Lattimore
Hooker
McMillan
Fingers crossed!
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Was in Cleveland partying. Got to figure it's a player from Ohio with that news. Hooker from OSU was interviewed on Friday by Tony Rizzo (Covers Cleveland for ESPN) and said he was coming there that weekend.
Who goes to Cleveland to party? Gotta be a player from Ohio. Ohio State, Ohio, Toledo.
Conley
Lattimore
Hooker
McMillan
Rivers from Youngstown St also is projected as a possible 1st rounder
Not saying that happened here, because obviously we don't know the details, and bottom line is when a woman says no, it definitely means no, and that should always be taken seriously.
But no woman should go to a man's hotel room alone with him, ever, especially late at night, unless you have the specific intention of getting down. If that's chauvinist, don't care, it's reality. It's just not a good idea. This is not to say that excuses criminal behavior, because it absolutely doesn't, but I will never understand these women who are like, "so we headed up to his room at 2:30am and once inside... get this... this caveman wanted sex!" Seriously, call it a night before going up there unless you are intending to make the sex.
This is total bullshit.
If it was Elliot, the NFL will just investigate forever, but never do anything.
Not saying that happened here, because obviously we don't know the details, and bottom line is when a woman says no, it definitely means no, and that should always be taken seriously.
I am amazed at this type of thinking. It just proves how far some men have to come to understand what equality and respect means. This is such a veiled implication that she was looking for something. I guess I have been too optimistic that this type of misogynistic thinking was ending.
But no woman should go to a man's hotel room alone with him, ever, especially late at night, unless you have the specific intention of getting down. If that's chauvinist, don't care, it's reality. It's just not a good idea. This is not to say that excuses criminal behavior, because it absolutely doesn't, but I will never understand these women who are like, "so we headed up to his room at 2:30am and once inside... get this... this caveman wanted sex!" Seriously, call it a night before going up there unless you are intending to make the sex.
I am amazed at this type of thinking. It just proves how far some men have to come to understand what equality and respect means. This is such a veiled implication that she was looking for something. I guess I have been too optimistic that this type of misogynistic thinking was ending.
I am amazed at this type of thinking. It just proves how far some men have to come to understand what equality and respect means. This is such a veiled implication that she was looking for something. I guess I have been too optimistic that this type of misogynistic thinking was ending.
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I am amazed at this type of thinking. It just proves how far some men have to come to understand what equality and respect means. This is such a veiled implication that she was looking for something. I guess I have been too optimistic that this type of misogynistic thinking was ending.
Yeah if you were looking for an end to that kind of thinking this may not be the right place.
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Was the spring game that weekend?
Fingers crossed!
You make it sound as if there is only one possible scenario that could lead a woman to go up to a man's hotel room and all other circumstances surrounding it are equal and consistent throughout their time together. There are men and women who can appear to be the sweetest, nicest, most trustworthy people in the world upon first meeting them but as you get to know them better you realize they are a creep, racist, asshole, liar, etc.
Don't blame the victim!
According to a police report obtained by TMZ, a 23-year-old female claims Conley raped her in a Cleveland hotel bathroom on April 9. The report states that the woman met Conley in the elevator at the Westin in Cleveland and he asked her to come back to his room with his friends. You can read more details below:
According to the report, the accuser says she met Conley in an elevator and he asked her to have a foursome with another friend of his. The woman says she declined and offered to watch the other people have sex instead.
A short time later, the woman says Conley unbuttoned her pants and began to have sex with her. She claims she said, “No, stop, it hurts!” but he kept going until he finished. She says he then kicked her out of the hotel room.
The woman called 911 and described her assailant as a “black male who wouldn’t take his sunglasses off and had an Ohio State tattoo on his left forearm.”
The woman says she went to a local hospital where a rape kit was administered. But she refused to speak to cops afterward.
Two of Conley’s friends who were also at the hotel told police Conley had no physical contact with the accuser, and they insist the woman was just angry she had been told to leave the room. Conley’s attorney called the allegations “ludicrous and ridiculous.” Police are still investigating.
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Women who go to a man's hotel room very late at night with him... and thinking what, you're there to hang out and watch tv or something?
Not saying that happened here, because obviously we don't know the details, and bottom line is when a woman says no, it definitely means no, and that should always be taken seriously.
But no woman should go to a man's hotel room alone with him, ever, especially late at night, unless you have the specific intention of getting down. If that's chauvinist, don't care, it's reality. It's just not a good idea. This is not to say that excuses criminal behavior, because it absolutely doesn't, but I will never understand these women who are like, "so we headed up to his room at 2:30am and once inside... get this... this caveman wanted sex!" Seriously, call it a night before going up there unless you are intending to make the sex.
This is total bullshit.
What you think if a woman says no it means yes? Wow, you need help.
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Women who go to a man's hotel room very late at night with him... and thinking what, you're there to hang out and watch tv or something?
Not saying that happened here, because obviously we don't know the details, and bottom line is when a woman says no, it definitely means no, and that should always be taken seriously.
I am amazed at this type of thinking. It just proves how far some men have to come to understand what equality and respect means. This is such a veiled implication that she was looking for something. I guess I have been too optimistic that this type of misogynistic thinking was ending.
But no woman should go to a man's hotel room alone with him, ever, especially late at night, unless you have the specific intention of getting down. If that's chauvinist, don't care, it's reality. It's just not a good idea. This is not to say that excuses criminal behavior, because it absolutely doesn't, but I will never understand these women who are like, "so we headed up to his room at 2:30am and once inside... get this... this caveman wanted sex!" Seriously, call it a night before going up there unless you are intending to make the sex.
It means no such thing, and it's not mysogonist. If this is your daughter you don't tell her to go up to some strange guy's hotel room at 3:00 am. It's not about equality or respect. It's common f***ing sense, use your brain. Not everyone is an altruistic little angel that just wants to discuss puppies and interpretive dance. This is the same as you telling your child, "don't touch the stove," and "look both ways before crossing." Ffs.
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Women who go to a man's hotel room very late at night with him... and thinking what, you're there to hang out and watch tv or something?
Maybe she went up to his hotel room thinking they would have sex but then he started acting like a complete jerk and she changed her mind. A woman shouldn't feel like she gives up her rights the second she passes through a hotel room door.
You make it sound as if there is only one possible scenario that could lead a woman to go up to a man's hotel room and all other circumstances surrounding it are equal and consistent throughout their time together. There are men and women who can appear to be the sweetest, nicest, most trustworthy people in the world upon first meeting them but as you get to know them better you realize they are a creep, racist, asshole, liar, etc.
Don't blame the victim!
It's not victim-blaming... but, here's a thought... maybe you should get to know them better BEFORE you go up to the hotel room!
BTW, once again, I did say a woman saying no means no. I respect women, greatly. It's about being smart and making good decisions that DON'T put you in situations that end up with you as a victim.
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Women who go to a man's hotel room very late at night with him... and thinking what, you're there to hang out and watch tv or something?
Maybe she went up to his hotel room thinking they would have sex but then he started acting like a complete jerk and she changed her mind. A woman shouldn't feel like she gives up her rights the second she passes through a hotel room door.
You make it sound as if there is only one possible scenario that could lead a woman to go up to a man's hotel room and all other circumstances surrounding it are equal and consistent throughout their time together. There are men and women who can appear to be the sweetest, nicest, most trustworthy people in the world upon first meeting them but as you get to know them better you realize they are a creep, racist, asshole, liar, etc.
Don't blame the victim!
It's not victim-blaming... but, here's a thought... maybe you should get to know them better BEFORE you go up to the hotel room!
BTW, once again, I did say a woman saying no means no. I respect women, greatly. It's about being smart and making good decisions that DON'T put you in situations that end up with you as a victim.
I can tell that you are a one dimensional thinker so I am really not going to engage with you after this. Everyone knows (or should know) that "no means no" so the only reason for you to add that is because no some level you realize what you are doing. You are perpetuating a rape culture wherein the victim owns a percentage of the blame.
Rape is not a fucking car accident civil suit wherein you divvy up blame. Rape is a tortuous event that no one can fathom unless youve been through it.
You and your outlook are a part of the problem.
You pass judgement because you think you are "enlightened."
You just stated things that are obvious to everyone.
What I stated should also be obvious to everyone with half a brain... it's not blaming a victim to say that anyone, man or a woman (there's some gender equality for you there, bippy), shouldn't go to a stranger's hotel room at 3:00am. That's not blame, that's COMMON FUCKING SENSE. Moreover, the fact that women are on average roughly HALF as strong as men, means that it would be good JUDGEMENT to not find yourself in a situation where you are alone with a man you don't know in a private setting, especially one you've just met that you claim just propositioned you for "a foursome".
None of that is victim-blaming... rape is still rape, still illegal, anyone who commits such a heinous act is morally bankrupt and deserves to be in prison for a very long time.
Since you are not a "one-dimensional" thinker, I'm sure you can understand the very basic concept that just because one thing is true, something else that may appear to be at odds with the former might also be true?
You sound like one of those people who are so open-minded you lost your brains.